Balmain hijack Wests Tigers Gala Ball night

[magpie_mania]

bug's rant is hiding the real truth, the fact that the head honchos at Wests are poor managers who are crying foul* because Balmain are always one step ahead of them at every turn. What bug really wants to say is that Wests have been embarrassed time and time again by better management, planning and coordination by a vastly under-resourced Balmain team.

This isn't new for Wests though, but their supporters keep trying to blame others without blaming the real people responsible, that being the people at Western Suburbs who have year after year, decade after decade, failed to fix the problems that exist at the core. First it's the ARL's fault, then it's News Limited's fault, now it's Sheens.

It's sad though because everyone here wants both sides to succeed so we should all be feeling the same way as Bug, but I have no sympathy for anyone or anything that can't get their own act sorted first**.

Football Darwinism at its finest.

*bug seems to be the only one crying foul actually. I haven't seen Wests crying anywhere, just their fan and/or fans.
**we are assuming that everything bug says is gospel and that there is a hidden agreement signed between Camp Concord and Waterloo Street to undermine Wests & get Balmain back in the top grade

umm wests is very poorly run because our junior and senior numbers are rising every year and our rep teams (sg ball and harold mmatthews) both made the semis.most of the Wests tigers juniors are coming thru wests side oh and wests is still called wests.Balmain is so well run because they have no a grade competition no rep teams making semis and they had to take half of wests players for nsw cup.On top of this the manchester united half of the joint venture "balmain" are so well run they are no longer balmain they are ryde eastwood which in reality is nowhere near balmain. :laughing: :roll

There's a difference between producing good junior talent and managing a successful club off the field.

Correct and UNFORTUNATELY balmain have neither. :crazy :crazy :crazy

 

[Kul]

don't take the bait anyone
please, it's not worth it

 

[magpie_mania]

don't take the bait anyone
please, it's not worth it

This from the president of moltzen no7 fan club :crazy :crazy :smiley: :smiley:

 

[Yossarian]

How does one hijack a thread they have started?

It is like a pilot taking off on a flight to Sydney and then saying, "I am hijacking this plane and I am going to land it in Sydney."

In this case it's more like a bloke highjacking a Moped and taking it to Campbelltown…

 

[tiger4ever]

How does one hijack a thread they have started?

It is like a pilot taking off on a flight to Sydney and then saying, "I am hijacking this plane and I am going to land it in Sydney."

In this case it's more like a bloke highjacking a Moped and taking it to Campbelltown…

Lol.

Maybe this thread wasnt hijacked as much but hes done plenty before this one….so its well deserved

 

[Alf_Duguid]

How does one hijack a thread they have started?

It is like a pilot taking off on a flight to Sydney and then saying, "I am hijacking this plane and I am going to land it in Sydney."

In this case it's more like a bloke highjacking a Moped and taking it to Campbelltown…

What does that mean?

 

[magpie_mania]

How does one hijack a thread they have started?

It is like a pilot taking off on a flight to Sydney and then saying, "I am hijacking this plane and I am going to land it in Sydney."

In this case it's more like a bloke highjacking a Moped and taking it to Campbelltown…

What does that mean?

It means yossarian lives in a life of fear that his cherished moped may one day be involved in a mopedjacking by an angry Balmain Bug so he can get a ride back to campbelltown

 

[wtfl1981]

As i mentioned before….

This thread is NOT suppose to be a Wests vs Balmain Fight. Its simply a push for a case to have the 'magpies' brand stay alive in some capacity. Its not saying that Wests Magpies should be back in the NRL or kick Balmain away or vice versa. You ask most old time followers of the game (NON WT Fans) who dont even acknowledge a wests or magpies presence in the joint venture club. Think of it in the media: The tigers 'spiritual home' of leichhardt, celebrating balmain vs canberra 1989 grand final re-match at a campbelltown game, not having worn the magpies heritage jersey at campbelltown since 2008, orange and black merchandise with no white, supporters jerseys (at best and less) with no magpie logo at all, the WT 2008 Centenary jersey being EXACLTY the same as the balmain centenary jersey.. if we made the 2010 GF we would have played in the orange strip, if we had a home semi in 2010 - leichhardt was first choice...i am talking about some genuine recognition of the team that i followed (Western Suburbs Magpies) from the day i was born being remembered within the team i love and follow today (Wests Tigers). People both inside and outside WT may not care about it but myself and a lot of others do.

I agree that is now 2011 and we have a great modern team to support in the Wests Tigers, however we have a generation of 25 year olds to 85+ year olds who are lifetime league fans who followed the Western Suburbs Magpies or the Balmain Tigers. Thats 60+ years of Rugby League memories and passion that for a lot of these people would like to be honoured or remembered to a respectable extent in the team we follow today.

Other NRL Teams thrive of their history and tradition (teams like the Dragons (despite merging with Illawarra), the roosters and of course the rabbitohs) just because we have a new joint identity and exciting future doesn't mean we should let go or ignore the 200 years of combined history between both 1908 clubs.

So passionate magpie fans like myself and the many balmain boys, still have something running through their blood for what they grew up with and what they see and what they WANT to be remembered and honoured in the NRL club they follow today.

 

[wtfl1981]

Basic summary of Balmain Ryde-Eastwood & Western Suburbs Magpies stand alone clubs:

BRET:
No Real physical Leagues Club or Solid Leagues Club Money
Already Merged with Ryde-Eastwood (Identity already mixed)
Small Junior Base
No Football Club Membership base
Limited Rugby League following population
Small or almost non existent BRET Merchandise Range
BUT…
'survives' solely on Wests Tigers NRL Club for branding and recognition of history & tradition

the other side in the NSW Cup has::
Financial Support of one of the biggest clubs in NSW - Wests Ashfield
One of the largest junior rugby league base in Australia
Large Rugby League following population
Great Stadium and Training Facilities
Football Club Membership
Large Merchandise Range
BUT....
Has limited or almost Zero recognition in rugby league community as it brand and identity is forgotten and overlooked by not having a strong 'wests' presence in WT via one sided naming references (especially when 90% of fans and media calling WT 'the tigers' and the magpie logo on the sleeve gets smaller every year)

 

[Balmain_Bug]

Bests posts ever DTOWELLS.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

As i mentioned before….

This thread is NOT suppose to be a Wests vs Balmain Fight. Its simply a push for a case to have the 'magpies' brand stay alive in some capacity. Its not saying that Wests Magpies should be back in the NRL or kick Balmain away or vice versa. You ask most old time followers of the game (NON WT Fans) who dont even acknowledge a wests or magpies presence in the joint venture club. Think of it in the media: The tigers 'spiritual home' of leichhardt, celebrating balmain vs canberra 1989 grand final re-match at a campbelltown game, not having worn the magpies heritage jersey at campbelltown since 2008, orange and black merchandise with no white, supporters jerseys (at best and less) with no magpie logo at all, the WT 2008 Centenary jersey being EXACLTY the same as the balmain centenary jersey.. if we made the 2010 GF we would have played in the orange strip, if we had a home semi in 2010 - leichhardt was first choice...i am talking about some genuine recognition of the team that i followed (Western Suburbs Magpies) from the day i was born being remembered within the team i love and follow today (Wests Tigers). People both inside and outside WT may not care about it but myself and a lot of others do.

I agree that is now 2011 and we have a great modern team to support in the Wests Tigers, however we have a generation of 25 year olds to 85+ year olds who are lifetime league fans who followed the Western Suburbs Magpies or the Balmain Tigers. Thats 60+ years of Rugby League memories and passion that for a lot of these people would like to be honoured or remembered to a respectable extent in the team we follow today.

Other NRL Teams thrive of their history and tradition (teams like the Dragons (despite merging with Illawarra), the roosters and of course the rabbitohs) just because we have a new joint identity and exciting future doesn't mean we should let go or ignore the 200 years of combined history between both 1908 clubs.

So passionate magpie fans like myself and the many balmain boys, still have something running through their blood for what they grew up with and what they see and what they WANT to be remembered and honoured in the NRL club they follow today.

never seen a post that sums up what the majority of us ex-Magpies are thinking.Its about being equally recognized which is extremly frustrating at times as the magpies tend to get forgotten.A lot of ppl say we should forget about Wests and Balmain and focus on the Wests Tigers which is true but we can't forget the things that brought us to this great club.The culture of the club should be a blend of the two clubs that brought this club together and the new generation.There seem to be a lot of ppl who are happy for this club to have its own identity just as long as its as Balmain as possible and thats disapointing.There's no reason why each side of this JV,no matter what your background can't all co-exsist and each get what they deserve

 

[Guest]

I fail to see how a large portion of these posts have anything to do with Balmain having their gala night at the same time and venue as the Wests Tigers. As per usual there are a few people who oppose any initiative shown by Balmain and turn it into another us Vs them rant.

This topic is not about Wests.

 

[tigers05]

I fail to see how a large portion of these posts have anything to do with Balmain having their gala night at the same time and venue as the Wests Tigers. As per usual there are a few people who oppose any initiative shown by Balmain and turn it into another us Vs them rant.

This topic is not about Wests.

Totally agree willow just some diehards that cant let go….........sad to go to the grave angry and bitter......some need to learn and embrace the future, thats more important than yesterday.

 

[tiger4ever]

Basic summary of Balmain Ryde-Eastwood & Western Suburbs Magpies stand alone clubs:

BRET:
No Real physical Leagues Club or Solid Leagues Club Money
Already Merged with Ryde-Eastwood (Identity already mixed)
Small Junior Base
No Football Club Membership base
Limited Rugby League following population
Small or almost non existent BRET Merchandise Range
BUT…
'survives' solely on Wests Tigers NRL Club for branding and recognition of history & tradition

the other side in the NSW Cup has::
Financial Support of one of the biggest clubs in NSW - Wests Ashfield
One of the largest junior rugby league base in Australia
Large Rugby League following population
Great Stadium and Training Facilities
Football Club Membership
Large Merchandise Range
BUT....
Has limited or almost Zero recognition in rugby league community as it brand and identity is forgotten and overlooked by not having a strong 'wests' presence in WT via one sided naming references (especially when 90% of fans and media calling WT 'the tigers' and the magpie logo on the sleeve gets smaller every year)

You must have that saved on your pc you said exactly the same in the nsw cup thread which was proven to be wrong by a few posters on here and then you pull it out again.lol

with you 4 its always about wests.Who cares wake up

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I fail to see how a large portion of these posts have anything to do with Balmain having their gala night at the same time and venue as the Wests Tigers. As per usual there are a few people who oppose any initiative shown by Balmain and turn it into another us Vs them rant.

This topic is not about Wests.

Totally agree willow just some diehards that cant let go….........sad to go to the grave angry and bitter......some need to learn and embrace the future, thats more important than yesterday.

wanting the Magpies equally recognized is 'angry and bitter'? ok got it

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I fail to see how a large portion of these posts have anything to do with Balmain having their gala night at the same time and venue as the Wests Tigers. As per usual there are a few people who oppose any initiative shown by Balmain and turn it into another us Vs them rant.

This topic is not about Wests.

Totally agree willow just some diehards that cant let go….........sad to go to the grave angry and bitter......some need to learn and embrace the future, thats more important than yesterday.

im sure if the Wests Tigers were reffered to mainly as the 'black and whites' with no reference to the orange,if C'town was reffered to as the 'spiritual home of the Wests Tigers and there was never barely recognition of Balmain you would be pretty 'angry and bitter' yourself

 

[tiger4ever]

Find out why its not equal who only a few think its not …and stop bitching about it...you feel that strong go to the the meetings and have your say its no use on here.Id say magpies make their own bed.

What not equal what would make you guys happy and not just say oh its not 50- 50 bla bla

Gees you have 2 parts of your name associated with the jersey....you have wests you have the magpie where we just got the nickname tigers ....no balmain or anything. i thought choosing to keep our nickname was a smart move cause like it or not most clubs are called by that...roosters.raiders,broncos,dragons etc

It is our spiritual home ground in a way it been played on by us for close to 70 seasons so that why the MEDIA say it.

 

[tigers05]

Last time I checked it is equally recognised WESTS and TIGERS ok get it. For all of you that are twisting in your seats what has stopped the Maggies showing initiative and combining one of their Functions with the senior club?

I think it is a great initiative by Balmain embracing the Wests Tigers and sharing centre stage with The Tigers Gala Ball. These things need to evolve and its not about equality its about letting go and moving on, the future is much brighter than the past, its not about the Maggies or Balmain but some of you like to make it out to be that way.

Thankfully we have an administration that does not allow emotion to dictate decisions otherwise the merger would have ended long before it started.

THERE IS NO HIJACK OF THE GALA NIGHT IT IS A COMBINED EVENT ok get it!

 

[wtfl1981]

Basic summary of Balmain Ryde-Eastwood & Western Suburbs Magpies stand alone clubs:

BRET:
No Real physical Leagues Club or Solid Leagues Club Money
Already Merged with Ryde-Eastwood (Identity already mixed)
Small Junior Base
No Football Club Membership base
Limited Rugby League following population
Small or almost non existent BRET Merchandise Range
BUT…
'survives' solely on Wests Tigers NRL Club for branding and recognition of history & tradition

the other side in the NSW Cup has::
Financial Support of one of the biggest clubs in NSW - Wests Ashfield
One of the largest junior rugby league base in Australia
Large Rugby League following population
Great Stadium and Training Facilities
Football Club Membership
Large Merchandise Range
BUT....
Has limited or almost Zero recognition in rugby league community as it brand and identity is forgotten and overlooked by not having a strong 'wests' presence in WT via one sided naming references (especially when 90% of fans and media calling WT 'the tigers' and the magpie logo on the sleeve gets smaller every year)

You must have that saved on your pc you said exactly the same in the nsw cup thread which was proven to be wrong by a few posters on here and then you pull it out again.lol

with you 4 its always about wests.Who cares wake up

Who cares??? I do and so do others… Doesnt seem to matter what the subject matter is (NSW Cup Feeder Team or Balmain piggy backing of Wests Tigers) Ofcourse i feel passionate about Wests being recognised in the JV.. You would feel the same if it was the other way around.

As its been stated many times on these threads, you dont see 'Balmain diehards' fighting for a cause for recognition or brand identity..

As i have also posted before.. WT CEO Steve Humphries has ACKNOWLEDGED in a Wests Group Board meeting that Wests Tigers are often seen as 'an extention of Balmain'

If its recognised at that level then i see that our passionate case for recognition is valid

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Find out why its not equal who only a few think its not …and stop [automatically edited] about it…you feel that strong go to the the meetings and have your say its no use on here.Id say magpies make their own bed.

What not equal what would make you guys happy and not just say oh its not 50- 50 bla bla

Gees you have 2 parts of your name associated with the jersey....you have wests you have the magpie where we just got the nickname tigers ....no balmain or anything. i thought choosing to keep our nickname was a smart move cause like it or not most clubs are called by that...roosters.raiders,broncos,dragons etc

It is our spiritual home ground in a way it been played on by us for close to 70 seasons so that why the MEDIA say it.

you accuse all ex -Magpies of 'whinging' about everything so it only makes me assume that you think this is an equal JV with both clubs being as important as each other,meaning we as ex-Magpie fans are 'whinging' for no reason.Is that the way you see it?