Big name player in trouble
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jirskyr
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I don't know how $50K isn't a decent hurt, don't care what his total wage is, that's still a heft hunk of money.
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@ghost said:
You're not worth it. Don't bother coming back though Simon.
While Im not too fussed by it all as Ive seen a whole lot worse things in my time, which doesnt mean I condone it at all….but this stuff happens every weekend....Im thinking about the person with the phone and footage and wondering what sort of person they are.
Been asking myself this question all day, knowing now what this sort of stuff sells for...if I happened to be in a vicinity of an NRL player and can see things may get out of hand.
$60k is a LOT of coin
I'm not sure if I could sell something like this, though its hard to tell until youre in the situation
Hmmmm......
dickhead players career????
or ...one of these?
Been asking myself this question all day, knowing now what this sort of stuff sells for...if I happened to be in a vicinity of an NRL player and can see things may get out of hand.
$60k is a LOT of coin
I'm not sure if I could sell something like this, though its hard to tell until youre in the situation
Hmmmm......
dickhead players career????
or ...one of these?
Interesting
Mitchell Pearce has reminded us that privacy is a thing of the past
Opinion
By Simon Tatz
>
Updated about an hour ago
Mitchell Pearce
Photo: Mitchell Pearce was filmed in a private home, presumably without his consent. (Supplied: Nine Network)
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NRL star Mitchell Pearce may not deserve sympathy for his unacceptable behaviour, but the way it was made public highlights a troubling invasion of privacy that we are all susceptible to, writes Simon Tatz.
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While the drunken antics of NRL player Mitchell Pearce are being dissected and debated on mainstream and social media, the most critical issue here is not a young man's drunken buffoonery, it is how modern technologies have eroded our privacy and pervaded every aspect of our lives.
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Don't worry about Big Brother, data retention, or control of the internet and email - the modern mobile telephone, with its video and audio facilities, is the greatest threat to our privacy. It is not government snooping on us that we should fear, it is us who we should worry about.
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We the people now pose the greatest threat to each other. We are snooping, spying, filming, uploading and invading each other's privacy to such an extent that no activity seems off limits.
>
Let's put to one side the moral and ethical questions about Mitchell Pearce's behaviour and agree that drunken and offensive behaviour is not acceptable. However, in saying that, the incident occurred in a private home. It was not a public act, it wasn't intended to offend the public, and the only reason we know about is because it was secretly recorded.
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Imagine being filmed in your backyard, or wherever you go, and having that content shared online.
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The footballer was filmed, presumably without his consent, and that footage was sold or provided to the media. End of career.
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I have little sympathy for Mitchell Pearce's behaviour, yet I have a little sympathy for the way it has become public.
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Now, no party, BBQ, dinner gathering, social event, gig, or any activity, public or private, is immune from being recorded and distributed world-wide. We have no privacy. If it is not mobile phones filming us, it is neighbours with drones.
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Those who condemn Mitchell Pearce and demand his sacking and public humiliation should think for a moment about their behaviour.
**Imagine having to worry that every time you made a politically incorrect comment in private it could end up on the internet. Imagine every party you've been to, every private gathering, every get together with old friends, being secretly filmed and uploaded. Imagine being filmed in your backyard, or wherever you go, and having that content shared online.**
>
Recently I had my privacy invaded, albeit unintentionally and without malice. My wife and I were holidaying in a reasonably remote part of Asia. We don't travel with mobile phones and we don't tell people where we are going - it's called privacy for a reason.
>
The dilemma that we as a society face is that we have advanced technologies without any privacy policies
>
We had arranged to meet up with friends and take a boat trip up-river for a few days. When we returned to land I used a hotel internet to let family know we were safe and well. There was a message waiting in my inbox saying how happy and relaxed we looked on the boat. I was stunned. How did they know where we were and what we were doing?
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It transpired that someone had taken a photo of us on the boat, uploaded it to their Facebook page, where it was tagged and then shared.
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No big deal, it was innocent enough and no harm done - unless of course we didn't want to share this experience with others or have the world know where we were and what we did on our holidays. It was not the same intrusion as being filmed wetting your pants and committing a lewd act with an animal, but the principle is similar. Information is being shared without our knowledge or approval - and without the 'sharer' recognising the consequences.
>
The dilemma that we as a society face is that we have advanced technologies without any privacy policies. Every day, new and potentially more invasive technologies hit the market and yet policy makers seem unable to provide a framework that protects personal privacy.
>
What did the makers of mobile telephones imagine the consequences would be of arming every user with a camera? What did the designers of YouTube think would happen when everyone with access can upload footage without copyright, authorisation, or even the knowledge of those involved?
>
So the media and the public will express outrage for or against Mitchell Pearce and the conga line of drunken idiots before (and after) who do things that are offensive. And yet, no matter how much this incident appals me, I am equally disgusted by the commercial media who willingly took a secret recording and exploited it for their own titillation and perverse benefits.
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As the cliche goes, it's all fun and games until someone gets hurt.
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Simon Tatz is a former senior adviser to both the ALP and Greens. He was Director of Communications for the Mental Health Council of Australia and Media & Marketing Manager for ACT Health.
>
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-28/tatz-pearce-has-reminded-us-that-privacy-is-a-thing-of-the-past/7121426
Mitchell Pearce has reminded us that privacy is a thing of the past
Opinion
By Simon Tatz
>
Updated about an hour ago
Mitchell Pearce
Photo: Mitchell Pearce was filmed in a private home, presumably without his consent. (Supplied: Nine Network)
>
NRL star Mitchell Pearce may not deserve sympathy for his unacceptable behaviour, but the way it was made public highlights a troubling invasion of privacy that we are all susceptible to, writes Simon Tatz.
>
While the drunken antics of NRL player Mitchell Pearce are being dissected and debated on mainstream and social media, the most critical issue here is not a young man's drunken buffoonery, it is how modern technologies have eroded our privacy and pervaded every aspect of our lives.
>
Don't worry about Big Brother, data retention, or control of the internet and email - the modern mobile telephone, with its video and audio facilities, is the greatest threat to our privacy. It is not government snooping on us that we should fear, it is us who we should worry about.
>
We the people now pose the greatest threat to each other. We are snooping, spying, filming, uploading and invading each other's privacy to such an extent that no activity seems off limits.
>
Let's put to one side the moral and ethical questions about Mitchell Pearce's behaviour and agree that drunken and offensive behaviour is not acceptable. However, in saying that, the incident occurred in a private home. It was not a public act, it wasn't intended to offend the public, and the only reason we know about is because it was secretly recorded.
>
Imagine being filmed in your backyard, or wherever you go, and having that content shared online.
>
The footballer was filmed, presumably without his consent, and that footage was sold or provided to the media. End of career.
>
I have little sympathy for Mitchell Pearce's behaviour, yet I have a little sympathy for the way it has become public.
>
Now, no party, BBQ, dinner gathering, social event, gig, or any activity, public or private, is immune from being recorded and distributed world-wide. We have no privacy. If it is not mobile phones filming us, it is neighbours with drones.
>
Those who condemn Mitchell Pearce and demand his sacking and public humiliation should think for a moment about their behaviour.
**Imagine having to worry that every time you made a politically incorrect comment in private it could end up on the internet. Imagine every party you've been to, every private gathering, every get together with old friends, being secretly filmed and uploaded. Imagine being filmed in your backyard, or wherever you go, and having that content shared online.**
>
Recently I had my privacy invaded, albeit unintentionally and without malice. My wife and I were holidaying in a reasonably remote part of Asia. We don't travel with mobile phones and we don't tell people where we are going - it's called privacy for a reason.
>
The dilemma that we as a society face is that we have advanced technologies without any privacy policies
>
We had arranged to meet up with friends and take a boat trip up-river for a few days. When we returned to land I used a hotel internet to let family know we were safe and well. There was a message waiting in my inbox saying how happy and relaxed we looked on the boat. I was stunned. How did they know where we were and what we were doing?
>
It transpired that someone had taken a photo of us on the boat, uploaded it to their Facebook page, where it was tagged and then shared.
>
No big deal, it was innocent enough and no harm done - unless of course we didn't want to share this experience with others or have the world know where we were and what we did on our holidays. It was not the same intrusion as being filmed wetting your pants and committing a lewd act with an animal, but the principle is similar. Information is being shared without our knowledge or approval - and without the 'sharer' recognising the consequences.
>
The dilemma that we as a society face is that we have advanced technologies without any privacy policies. Every day, new and potentially more invasive technologies hit the market and yet policy makers seem unable to provide a framework that protects personal privacy.
>
What did the makers of mobile telephones imagine the consequences would be of arming every user with a camera? What did the designers of YouTube think would happen when everyone with access can upload footage without copyright, authorisation, or even the knowledge of those involved?
>
So the media and the public will express outrage for or against Mitchell Pearce and the conga line of drunken idiots before (and after) who do things that are offensive. And yet, no matter how much this incident appals me, I am equally disgusted by the commercial media who willingly took a secret recording and exploited it for their own titillation and perverse benefits.
>
As the cliche goes, it's all fun and games until someone gets hurt.
>
Simon Tatz is a former senior adviser to both the ALP and Greens. He was Director of Communications for the Mental Health Council of Australia and Media & Marketing Manager for ACT Health.
>
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-28/tatz-pearce-has-reminded-us-that-privacy-is-a-thing-of-the-past/7121426
GNR4LIFE
Well-known member
Makes you wonder what players in the 70's, 80's and 90's without camera phones got up to that no one knows about. Probably were doing things that make today's players look like schoolgirls in comparison.
foreveratiger
New member
@innsaneink said:
This article is so true .
I have also seen people do a lot worse on the drink .
It's gotten to the stage where people will have to hire a Security Guard to Parties and be patted down by the security Guard and put Mobile phones in a safe and you get it back when you leave .
Gee people would be lost not having there devices during a party antisocial the World has become.
GNR4LIFE
Well-known member
@Snake said:
I've heard one or two stories.
happy_tiger
Well-known member
Well I know one thing is right
Mitchell missed out on his old man's class
He is a disgrace , I think his punishment should be continues getting picked for NSW
That will serve him right
Seriously though he should get the same treatment as Monaghan got
But he won't , his surname will save his butt
Mitchell missed out on his old man's class
He is a disgrace , I think his punishment should be continues getting picked for NSW
That will serve him right
Seriously though he should get the same treatment as Monaghan got
But he won't , his surname will save his butt
@innsaneink said:
Great article. Mitchell Pearce's behaviour has affected him more than anyone else and he will pay the penalty - whatever that is. But I am confident that antics such as or similar to these have been going on for years amongst some NRL players past and present, that would be normally laughed off when they get together and talk about "what happened the night before", and would be recounted at reunions over and over again well after the fact, when they talk about the good old days. I doubt very much that many current players would have been be outraged or shocked - even if they didnt approve of his behaviour, because drunken incidents like this have been going on forever - the only difference now is that people are aware by making it public through video there is an opportunity to make money - and he got caught. I believe we all are entitled to protect our private lives, no matter how people choose to live or how distasteful it appears to others - famous or not - as long as they are not breaking the law or harming anyone our right to some level of privacy needs to be protected. I dont approve of what he did, but I preferably should never have been in a position to pass judgement. Just my two cents worth.
supercoach
Well-known member
@happy tiger said:
But Happy do you think he may be persuaded to take the easy option and hide in the EPL for a year or two.
Let's face it for the next nine months he is going to get hammered every week by every two bob comedian in the crowd. Just walking down the street will be tough. Okay he deserves what he gets,but slipping out of town could be the easy way out for the NRL,Chooks and silly Mitchell
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newtiger
Guest
@LCA said:
You can turn off your computer, no one if forcing you to read these comments.
Bit like complaining about a TV program and watching the whole lot of it, change channels or turn the TV off.
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newtiger
Guest
@Red Rugby said:
You can add Martin Kennedy to that list too.
jirskyr
Well-known member
I actually sat down to watch the Pearce video in full this arvo, beyond just the pics I've seen in the paper. Boy, what an anti-climax! The hysteria is even less reasonable than I originally thought.
