Chris McQueen signs - Official

[TCL]

He will be on the wrong side of thirty for being on that money.

Also, he might be on $250K year one, $450K year two and backended at $600K for year 3.

A 33yo second rower on $600K? Have we not learned anything?

Yep, pretty hard to argue with that.

I think weve learned we have to pay overs to get anyone established, weve nothing else to offer

Yep, if you can't offer them anything else you have to pay overs to get them.

 

[TYGA]

The cap will be 10m for a squad of 25 its 400k on average. Is McQueen an above average first grader? Probably.

We need athletes and difference makers agree Kane Evans would be preferred. I'd take both.

 

[Tiger4life]

The cap will be 10m for a squad of 25 its 400k on average. Is McQueen an above average first grader? Probably.

We need athletes and difference makers agree Kane Evans would be preferred. I'd take both.

We definitely need both. We need some experienced guys in the second row.

 

[Geo]

The cap will be 10m for a squad of 25 its 400k on average. Is McQueen an above average first grader? Probably.

We need athletes and difference makers agree Kane Evans would be preferred. I'd take both.

Squads are going to 30..

 

[TurnStyle]

its funny its looking like he will end up at the tigers. when he was on the wing at the bunnies i said to my dad that the tigers should have signed him then.
its about 5 years later now, but i reckon he is pretty rough and tough, and thats never a bad thing for a forward. it only sounds like a lot of money because a) the total sounds big: the three years is put behind in your mind as soon as you hear "… million dollars..." and b) it is the first time we are hearing of what will very soon become the norm.
i think he will be a good buy. im not super excited like i would have been a few years ago, but no issues with signing him by any means.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news fella's, but we have to offer coin if we want established back rowers who have played Origin and won premierships. They don't come for free.

 

[innsaneink]

The cap will be 10m for a squad of 25 its 400k on average. Is McQueen an above average first grader? Probably.

We need athletes and difference makers agree Kane Evans would be preferred. I'd take both.

We definitely need both. We need some experienced guys in the second row.

I think we can do without Evans, we need hard defensive players….hes pretty loose in D

 

[jadtiger]

He will be on the wrong side of thirty for being on that money.

Also, he might be on $250K year one, $450K year two and backended at $600K for year 3.

A 33yo second rower on $600K? Have we not learned anything?

Completely agree there is no value in giving a 3 year contact at his age imo.1 year with options in our favour is the sensible course

Oh yes that's very sensible, I'm sure established players will be falling over themselves in the rush to take up such irresistible offers :unamused:

If he was 3 years younger i have no issue with what we are offering but 3 years at his age of 30 is a concern.By now i would have hoped we have learned not to offer contracts to players who are on the decline due to age

 

[sideline_eye]

He will be on the wrong side of thirty for being on that money.

Also, he might be on $250K year one, $450K year two and backended at $600K for year 3.

A 33yo second rower on $600K? Have we not learned anything?

Yep, pretty hard to argue with that.

Backended contracts are now banned by the NRL.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

He will be on the wrong side of thirty for being on that money.

Also, he might be on $250K year one, $450K year two and backended at $600K for year 3.

A 33yo second rower on $600K? Have we not learned anything?

Completely agree there is no value in giving a 3 year contact at his age imo.1 year with options in our favour is the sensible course

Oh yes that's very sensible, I'm sure established players will be falling over themselves in the rush to take up such irresistible offers :unamused:

If he was 3 years younger i have no issue with what we are offering but 3 years at his age of 30 is a concern.By now i would have hoped we have learned not to offer contracts to players who are on the decline due to age

Is he on the decline? Bit unfair if you're just generalising.

 

[jadtiger]

Completely agree there is no value in giving a 3 year contact at his age imo.1 year with options in our favour is the sensible course

Oh yes that's very sensible, I'm sure established players will be falling over themselves in the rush to take up such irresistible offers :unamused:

If he was 3 years younger i have no issue with what we are offering but 3 years at his age of 30 is a concern.By now i would have hoped we have learned not to offer contracts to players who are on the decline due to age

Is he on the decline? Bit unfair if you're just generalising.

At 30 you are declining.Your body takes longer to get over niggling injuries and there is more wear and tear to your joints/muscles.This is something that even with the best athlete has to face,playing in the position where he does it only makes it worse.Dont get me wrong he could be very very lucky and be ok but most are not that lucky.Look at all of the players we have purchased over the years who have been 30+ when we have signed them, put all the good purchases on one side of the ledger and all of the failures on the other.The result is not pretty

 

[Nelson]

He will be on the wrong side of thirty for being on that money.

Also, he might be on $250K year one, $450K year two and backended at $600K for year 3.

A 33yo second rower on $600K? Have we not learned anything?

Completely agree there is no value in giving a 3 year contact at his age imo.1 year with options in our favour is the sensible course

Oh yes that's very sensible, I'm sure established players will be falling over themselves in the rush to take up such irresistible offers :unamused:

If he was 3 years younger i have no issue with what we are offering but 3 years at his age of 30 is a concern.By now i would have hoped we have learned not to offer contracts to players who are on the decline due to age

If their recruitment goal is a solid, proven 80 minute second row option and he's the best left on the market then while they might prefer not to give a 3 year contract it might be the cherry they need to offer to close the deal. A 3 year contract is a pretty tempting insurance policy for a player once they hit 30\. He'd only just tick over to 33 at the end of it too so while not ideal, it's not like signing a bloke until they're going to hit 35.

 

[TYGA]

Luke Lewis, Gallen and Heighnington went okay with the Sharks. Experience is needed badly.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Oh yes that's very sensible, I'm sure established players will be falling over themselves in the rush to take up such irresistible offers :unamused:

If he was 3 years younger i have no issue with what we are offering but 3 years at his age of 30 is a concern.By now i would have hoped we have learned not to offer contracts to players who are on the decline due to age

Is he on the decline? Bit unfair if you're just generalising.

At 30 you are declining.Your body takes longer to get over niggling injuries and there is more wear and tear to your joints/muscles.This is something that even with the best athlete has to face,playing in the position where he does it only makes it worse.Dont get me wrong he could be very very lucky and be ok but most are not that lucky.Look at all of the players we have purchased over the years who have been 30+ when we have signed them, put all the good purchases on one side of the ledger and all of the failures on the other.The result is not pretty

So basically you're saying we shouldn't have anyone on our books 30 or over?

 

[hodgo]

it blows my mind how one eyed most tigers supporters are tbh. Evans, Mcqueen and just about any other 2nd rower with a bit of size and ticker is way better then any thing we have including taylor. We need forwards that dominate tackles. we need forwards that bend the line with bruising runs. We dont have them no matter how good people think our juniors are etc not one of them has that aggression factor and is effective.

This isnt a slight against woodsy but we need to surrond him with Mongrels.

 

[Nelson]

it blows my mind how one eyed most tigers supporters are tbh. Evans, Mcqueen and just about any other 2nd rower with a bit of size and ticker is way better then any thing we have including taylor. We need forwards that dominate tackles. we need forwards that bend the line with bruising runs. We dont have them no matter how good people think our juniors are etc not one of them has that aggression factor and is effective.

This isnt a slight against woodsy but we need to surrond him with Mongrels.

I think you're undervaluing the toughness, work ethic and technique of Taylor. He and Woods are good players to build a pack around but you're right, they need to be playing alongside some hard heads to give us a balanced pack with an intimidation factor in both attack and defence.

 

[TYGA]

it blows my mind how one eyed most tigers supporters are tbh. Evans, Mcqueen and just about any other 2nd rower with a bit of size and ticker is way better then any thing we have including taylor. We need forwards that dominate tackles. we need forwards that bend the line with bruising runs. We dont have them no matter how good people think our juniors are etc not one of them has that aggression factor and is effective.

This isnt a slight against woodsy but we need to surrond him with Mongrels.

Spot on. Look at the size and power of the Storm( Bromwich, Finucanne, McLean, Solamona), Cowboys ( Scott, Taumololo, Lowe, Hess) Raiders ( Paulo, Boyd, Papalli, Soliola) Sharks ( Fifita, Gallen, Graham, Lewis, Prior) Eels ( Matagi, Mannah, Scott, Mau, Meroa) Roosters ( JWH, Napa, Evans, Cordner)

We run out with good players but lack power and aggression around Woods (ET, Lawrence, Edwards, MCK) The only players that dent the line are Ava, Sue and Aloai who are real goers but get played out of position or for limited minutes. We need more balance natural size and power that also work hard. We find hard workers that are always undersized ( Halatau, Galea, Fulton, ET) to name a few.

 

[jadtiger]

If he was 3 years younger i have no issue with what we are offering but 3 years at his age of 30 is a concern.By now i would have hoped we have learned not to offer contracts to players who are on the decline due to age

Is he on the decline? Bit unfair if you're just generalising.

At 30 you are declining.Your body takes longer to get over niggling injuries and there is more wear and tear to your joints/muscles.This is something that even with the best athlete has to face,playing in the position where he does it only makes it worse.Dont get me wrong he could be very very lucky and be ok but most are not that lucky.Look at all of the players we have purchased over the years who have been 30+ when we have signed them, put all the good purchases on one side of the ledger and all of the failures on the other.The result is not pretty

So basically you're saying we shouldn't have anyone on our books 30 or over?

Not at all what i am saying is dont sign 3 year contracts with 30+ players, 1 year with an option in our favour is fine and the carrot to get him would be a contract at about 530k which is more than he would be getting in 2018 according to what he is supposedly being offered.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Is he on the decline? Bit unfair if you're just generalising.

At 30 you are declining.Your body takes longer to get over niggling injuries and there is more wear and tear to your joints/muscles.This is something that even with the best athlete has to face,playing in the position where he does it only makes it worse.Dont get me wrong he could be very very lucky and be ok but most are not that lucky.Look at all of the players we have purchased over the years who have been 30+ when we have signed them, put all the good purchases on one side of the ledger and all of the failures on the other.The result is not pretty

So basically you're saying we shouldn't have anyone on our books 30 or over?

Not at all what i am saying is dont sign 3 year contracts with 30+ players, 1 year with an option in our favour is fine and the carrot to get him would be a contract at about 530k which is more than he would be getting in 2018 according to what he is supposedly being offered.

If we're going to be stingey signing one year contracts with one year options in our favour, we kiss goodbye signing established first graders. I'm sure we can attract a few more Jordan Rankin types though. I'm sure everyone would love that.

 

[jadtiger]

At 30 you are declining.Your body takes longer to get over niggling injuries and there is more wear and tear to your joints/muscles.This is something that even with the best athlete has to face,playing in the position where he does it only makes it worse.Dont get me wrong he could be very very lucky and be ok but most are not that lucky.Look at all of the players we have purchased over the years who have been 30+ when we have signed them, put all the good purchases on one side of the ledger and all of the failures on the other.The result is not pretty

So basically you're saying we shouldn't have anyone on our books 30 or over?

Not at all what i am saying is dont sign 3 year contracts with 30+ players, 1 year with an option in our favour is fine and the carrot to get him would be a contract at about 530k which is more than he would be getting in 2018 according to what he is supposedly being offered.

If we're going to be stingey signing one year contracts with one year options in our favour, we kiss goodbye signing established first graders. I'm sure we can attract a few more Jordan Rankin types though. I'm sure everyone would love that.

Its not a matter of being frugal its a matter of spending the cap wisely something we have never been good at.Anyway you are entitled to your opinion its just i cant agree with it.I have never liked the idea of spending money on players his age on long contracts i am not going to change my opinion even if i am in the minority.