Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers.

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@Anon-lurker what ? Your top 30 point makes little sense . That exists to stop teams like the roosters and Brisbane stockpiling talent and sticking them in reserve grade . Also it’s a means to maintain control . What you’re referring to already exists. It is the development contracts where 6 players after junior 30 are able to joint the top squad and play firsts . The tigers did this year with Tommy Talau .
Also a huge part of the problems you’re bringing up , is , that the NRL teams are so tribal and vindictive , that of course that culture of bias and ineptitude exists . Where do most of these NRL people come grime initially ?
If we centralised everything , then there would be 1 organisation to blame , whereas atm the amount of vested interests makes it near impossible to figure it out. Someone like Phil Gould is a prime example . All his comments are always with a view to making Penrith bigger . Never really about the RL as a whole . It’s just sometimes those two things align
 
@MAGPIES1963 said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1070755) said:
@LeichhardtTiger said:
"The simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him. Leo Tolstoy.

So, I most certainly won't be trying to convince him of my loyalty anymore.

You really need to quit it man
 
@MAGPIES1963 said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1070755) said:
@LeichhardtTiger said:
"The simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him. Leo Tolstoy.

So, I most certainly won't be trying to convince him of my loyalty anymore.


You are proving to be a really vindictive poster. Give it a break!
 
@Tigerlily said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071034) said:
Disgruntled Weststigers players....

https://twitter.com/nbwt__/status/1182824287519952896?s=21

Funny how Nofa is so happy.....

One of the highest paid wingers in the comp? Yep.

No finals, no defense, same stuff each year...but tries hard. Yep.

Of course he is happy. He is on almost the same coin as both roosters centers and much more than the roosters wingers.......................
 
@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071035) said:
@Tigerlily said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071034) said:
Disgruntled Weststigers players....

https://twitter.com/nbwt__/status/1182824287519952896?s=21

Funny how Nofa is so happy.....

One of the highest paid wingers in the comp? Yep.

No finals, no defense, same stuff each year...but tries hard. Yep.

Of course he is happy. He is on almost the same coin as both roosters centers and much more than the roosters wingers.......................

Geez! EH talk about taking a positive and turning it into negative...And hey! that was really nice of the chooks and Nofo to share their contractual finances with you...Good to know your in know?
 
@Tigerlily said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071041) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071035) said:
@Tigerlily said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071034) said:
Disgruntled Weststigers players....

https://twitter.com/nbwt__/status/1182824287519952896?s=21

Funny how Nofa is so happy.....

One of the highest paid wingers in the comp? Yep.

No finals, no defense, same stuff each year...but tries hard. Yep.

Of course he is happy. He is on almostw the same coin as both roosters centers and much more than the roosters wingers.......................

Geez! EH talk about taking a positive and turning it into negative...And hey! that was really nice of the chooks and Nofo to share their contractual finances with you...Good to know your in know?

We know how the Roosters cap works - nothing is as it seems.
 
@Tigerlily said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071041) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071035) said:
@Tigerlily said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071034) said:
Disgruntled Weststigers players....

https://twitter.com/nbwt__/status/1182824287519952896?s=21

Funny how Nofa is so happy.....

One of the highest paid wingers in the comp? Yep.

No finals, no defense, same stuff each year...but tries hard. Yep.

Of course he is happy. He is on almost the same coin as both roosters centers and much more than the roosters wingers.......................

Geez! EH talk about taking a positive and turning it into negative...And hey! that was really nice of the chooks and Nofo to share their contractual finances with you...Good to know your in know?


Not turning into a negative.....just that we have had a trend for a long time now of average players loving the place and elite players fleeing as soon as they can.

That is not even disputable. I would just like to hear matterson himself actually speak on it al before I judge. No one can doubt he put in massively in the field. So, lets hear from him.

Chris McQueen... on 400 to do nothing...taking shots was a bit rich IMO.
 
@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071050) said:
just that we have had a trend for a long time now of average players loving the place and elite players fleeing as soon as they can.

Who are the elites who fleed? I'd like to understand this ledger you are keeping.
 
@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071050) said:
@Tigerlily said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071041) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071035) said:
@Tigerlily said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071034) said:
Disgruntled Weststigers players....

https://twitter.com/nbwt__/status/1182824287519952896?s=21

Funny how Nofa is so happy.....

One of the highest paid wingers in the comp? Yep.

No finals, no defense, same stuff each year...but tries hard. Yep.

Of course he is happy. He is on almost the same coin as both roosters centers and much more than the roosters wingers.......................

Geez! EH talk about taking a positive and turning it into negative...And hey! that was really nice of the chooks and Nofo to share their contractual finances with you...Good to know your in know?


Not turning into a negative.....just that we have had a trend for a long time now of average players loving the place and elite players fleeing as soon as they can.

That is not even disputable. I would just like to hear matterson himself actually speak on it al before I judge. No one can doubt he put in massively in the field. So, lets hear from him.

Chris McQueen... on 400 to do nothing...taking shots was a bit rich IMO.

Matterson’s had ample time to make some kind of statement just as he had the time to discredit the coach and the Weststigers organisation, instead his left it to fester and grow...

Good on McQueen for having a laugh at Matterson expense, if the previous administration signed and sealed McQueens contract to the amount that you have suggested blame the WTs not him for being astute enough to take it...

And I guess if anyone has the right to express their displeasure at the drama Matterson has created for the Weststigers playing group would be his team mates don’t you think?
 
@jirskyr said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071056) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071050) said:
just that we have had a trend for a long time now of average players loving the place and elite players fleeing as soon as they can.

Who are the elites who fleed? I'd like to understand this ledger you are keeping.


Tedesco (Aus)
Woods (Aus)
Matterson going (our only rep level player)
Moses (massive sook, but laid on 31 tries this season)
JAC (Aus)
Pap (Roos 9s and train on)
Douehi Souths best in this year's semis / Bennet a huge fan.
Fifita (Aus)
Brown (player of the year at Parra after he left / forward leader for a top 4 team)
There is a trend of us losing rep level players/ paying massive overs for blokes we have kept

Nofa
Lawry
Corey
Eisenhuth
Aloai
Liddle
Garner and Brooks (both good)
But not one player above close to any rep teams.

Packer
Josh
Ben
All on massive overs.

You do not see a trend?
Rep level = have left
Ordinary = have stayed and been happy
Recruits = have come for massive overs (sole motive)

If you can dispute that, all power to you. I want to believe.....🙂
 

So we can produce them but have had difficulty keeping them or identifying the ones we should keep. Also paying more for ones who probably do not warrant huge contracts. The Esan Marsters release may be the first glimpse of a new regime with better roster management and better decisions overall. If we can pick up Brimson, Lomax and bring Musgrove back into the fold we are looking far stronger moving forward. Also we should be already making moves to sign up the best of the Flegg players.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071063) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071061) said:
So we can produce them but have had difficulty keeping them or identifying the ones we should keep. Also paying more for ones who probably do not warrant huge contracts. The Esan Marsters release may be the first glimpse of a new regime with better roster management and better decisions overall. If we can pick up Brimson, Lomax and bring Musgrove back into the fold we are looking far stronger moving forward. Also we should be already making moves to sign up the best of the Flegg players.


Yes, I have faith Madge can get it right within a few years.
 
@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071035) said:
@Tigerlily said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071034) said:
Disgruntled Weststigers players....

https://twitter.com/nbwt__/status/1182824287519952896?s=21

Funny how Nofa is so happy.....

One of the highest paid wingers in the comp? Yep.

No finals, no defense, same stuff each year...but tries hard. Yep.

Of course he is happy. He is on almost the same coin as both roosters centers and much more than the roosters wingers.......................

More than what the Rorters tell you, yes.

@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071061) said:
@jirskyr said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071056) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071050) said:
just that we have had a trend for a long time now of average players loving the place and elite players fleeing as soon as they can.

Who are the elites who fleed? I'd like to understand this ledger you are keeping.


Tedesco (Aus)
Woods (Aus)
Matterson going (our only rep level player)
Moses (massive sook, but laid on 31 tries this season)
JAC (Aus)
Pap (Roos 9s and train on)
Douehi Souths best in this year's semis / Bennet a huge fan.
Fifita (Aus)
Brown (player of the year at Parra after he left / forward leader for a top 4 team)
There is a trend of us losing rep level players/ paying massive overs for blokes we have kept

Nofa
Lawry
Corey
Eisenhuth
Aloai
Liddle
Garner and Brooks (both good)
But not one player above close to any rep teams.

Packer
Josh
Ben
All on massive overs.

You do not see a trend?
Rep level = have left
Ordinary = have stayed and been happy
Recruits = have come for massive overs (sole motive)

If you can dispute that, all power to you. I want to believe.....🙂

I don't think you do.
 
@Tigerlily said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071041) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071035) said:
@Tigerlily said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071034) said:
Disgruntled Weststigers players....

https://twitter.com/nbwt__/status/1182824287519952896?s=21

Funny how Nofa is so happy.....

One of the highest paid wingers in the comp? Yep.

No finals, no defense, same stuff each year...but tries hard. Yep.

Of course he is happy. He is on almost the same coin as both roosters centers and much more than the roosters wingers.......................

Geez! EH talk about taking a positive and turning it into negative...And hey! that was really nice of the chooks and Nofo to share their contractual finances with you...Good to know your in know?

Yep ... some people!?!?
 


**> Matterson’s had ample time to make some kind of statement just as he had the time to discredit the coach and the Weststigers organisation, instead his left it to fester and grow...**

Good on McQueen for having a laugh at Matterson expense, if the previous administration signed and sealed McQueens contract to the amount that you have suggested blame the WTs not him for being astute enough to take it...

And I guess if anyone has the right to express their displeasure at the drama Matterson has created for the Weststigers playing group would be his team mates don’t you think?

Re Matterson, playing Devil's Advocate here...but he had documented mental health issues this season and he is on holidays. So, for all we know, he has completely tuned out footy for a few weeks. Let's wait for him to comment when he returns...

Re making comment...Esan was linked with a move to Nth QLD 6 weeks ago. Esan posted on his social media it was a flat out lie and he "loved this club".

Six weeks later, it has all been proven true.

So, Matterson's lack of comment = we are slaughtering him.

Esan blatanly told a large porky pie = everyone is now going on about how well he handled it.
 
@Russell said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071065) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071035) said:
@Tigerlily said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071034) said:
Disgruntled Weststigers players....

https://twitter.com/nbwt__/status/1182824287519952896?s=21

Funny how Nofa is so happy.....

One of the highest paid wingers in the comp? Yep.

No finals, no defense, same stuff each year...but tries hard. Yep.

Of course he is happy. He is on almost the same coin as both roosters centers and much more than the roosters wingers.......................

More than what the Rorters tell you, yes.

@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071061) said:
@jirskyr said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071056) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071050) said:
just that we have had a trend for a long time now of average players loving the place and elite players fleeing as soon as they can.

Who are the elites who fleed? I'd like to understand this ledger you are keeping.


Tedesco (Aus)
Woods (Aus)
Matterson going (our only rep level player)
Moses (massive sook, but laid on 31 tries this season)
JAC (Aus)
Pap (Roos 9s and train on)
Douehi Souths best in this year's semis / Bennet a huge fan.
Fifita (Aus)
Brown (player of the year at Parra after he left / forward leader for a top 4 team)
There is a trend of us losing rep level players/ paying massive overs for blokes we have kept

Nofa
Lawry
Corey
Eisenhuth
Aloai
Liddle
Garner and Brooks (both good)
But not one player above close to any rep teams.

Packer
Josh
Ben
All on massive overs.

You do not see a trend?
Rep level = have left
Ordinary = have stayed and been happy
Recruits = have come for massive overs (sole motive)

If you can dispute that, all power to you. I want to believe.....🙂

I don't think you do.

Sorry mate, but that is ridiculous. There is a big difference between constructive criticism (which I am trying to provide) and blind faith (which serves no purpose other than for people to beat their chests about being a true fan).

I want the club to thrive, which is why we need discussions like this...
 
@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071070) said:
@Tigerlily said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071060) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071050) said:
@Tigerlily said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071041) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071035) said:
@Tigerlily said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071034) said:
**Matterson’s had ample time to make some kind of statement just as he had the time to discredit the coach and the Weststigers organisation, instead his left it to fester and grow...**

Good on McQueen for having a laugh at Matterson expense, if the previous administration signed and sealed McQueens contract to the amount that you have suggested blame the WTs not him for being astute enough to take it...

And I guess if anyone has the right to express their displeasure at the drama Matterson has created for the Weststigers playing group would be his team mates don’t you think?

Re Matterson, playing Devil's Advocate here...but he had documented mental health issues this season and he is on holidays. So, for all we know, he has completely tuned out footy for a few weeks. Let's wait for him to comment when he returns...

Re making comment...Esan was linked with a move to Nth QLD 6 weeks ago. Esan posted on his social media it was a flat out lie and he "loved this club".

Six weeks later, it has all been proven true.

So, Matterson's lack of comment = we are slaughtering him.

Esan blatanly told a large porky pie = everyone is now going on about how well he handled it.

Both self interest. One showed respect for the club and coach, the other kicked the coach and the club to the kerb and has had ample opportunity to rectify that and hasn't. That's why he has lost the support of fans and players it seems.
 
@Telltails said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071073) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071070) said:
@Tigerlily said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071060) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071050) said:
@Tigerlily said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071041) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071035) said:
@Tigerlily said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1071034) said:
**Matterson’s had ample time to make some kind of statement just as he had the time to discredit the coach and the Weststigers organisation, instead his left it to fester and grow...**

Good on McQueen for having a laugh at Matterson expense, if the previous administration signed and sealed McQueens contract to the amount that you have suggested blame the WTs not him for being astute enough to take it...

And I guess if anyone has the right to express their displeasure at the drama Matterson has created for the Weststigers playing group would be his team mates don’t you think?

Re Matterson, playing Devil's Advocate here...but he had documented mental health issues this season and he is on holidays. So, for all we know, he has completely tuned out footy for a few weeks. Let's wait for him to comment when he returns...

Re making comment...Esan was linked with a move to Nth QLD 6 weeks ago. Esan posted on his social media it was a flat out lie and he "loved this club".

Six weeks later, it has all been proven true.

So, Matterson's lack of comment = we are slaughtering him.

Esan blatanly told a large porky pie = everyone is now going on about how well he handled it.

Both self interest. One showed respect for the club and coach, the other kicked the coach and the club to the kerb and has had ample opportunity to rectify that and hasn't. That's why he has lost the support of fans and players it seems.

Matterson has not said a word mate. Let's at least wait until we hear from him.

Twal loves him. Even Farah said "i love Matto" in his criticism the other day....Aloai cited Matto as a key reason he is staying. So, it is not like outirght hatred,

McQueen is the only one to take a shot...funny that, same position. McQueen on more, basically us funding his retirement for zero reward.

Esan posted this exact quote re moving to the Cows only weeks ago:

Esan Nike Marsters


**@esan_marsters
Follow Follow @esan_marsters
MoreEsan Nike Marsters Retweeted The Mole
?? where do you guys get your information from, I’m loving it at this club**


I personally would rather Matterson stayed quiet than blatantly lie. Let's just wait and see what he says when he returns from his holidays.
 
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