Corona impact on NRL...?

@GNR4LIFE said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148749) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148748) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148273) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148270) said:
@tiger_one said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148264) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148261) said:
At this time last year (or the year before or the year before that or any year)
would players be getting stood down for not getting a flu jab?

So why are they now?


Apparently, if you get the flu, your immune system is reduced and the there's a higher risk to catch Covid-19.
And if one player gets Coronavirus, it's more likely to spread among the players.
So caution is required.

And yet the flu injection is only around 45% effective.
So 55% of players will get the flu regardless, therefore potentially be more at risk of getting covid19 (apparently)
So if any player gets the flu will they be stood down too?

I would have thought staying away from people with Covid19 is probably a good way to not get it.
I think it's disgraceful that they're forcing people to get the flu jab.

They aren't forcing anyone, they have a choice.

And if I hold a gun to your head and tell you to hand over your wife n children, I'm not forcing you, you have a choice.
So if you choose to not hand them over and I pull the trigger, you killed yourself by not "choosing" to hand them over?

They're being forced into a "choice" and either option isn't what they want to "choose"

That is an awful comparison

It's not a comparison, it's pointing out that in both examples people are being forced to choose between two options that they don't want
 
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148750) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148748) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148273) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148270) said:
@tiger_one said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148264) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148261) said:
At this time last year (or the year before or the year before that or any year)
would players be getting stood down for not getting a flu jab?

So why are they now?


Apparently, if you get the flu, your immune system is reduced and the there's a higher risk to catch Covid-19.
And if one player gets Coronavirus, it's more likely to spread among the players.
So caution is required.

And yet the flu injection is only around 45% effective.
So 55% of players will get the flu regardless, therefore potentially be more at risk of getting covid19 (apparently)
So if any player gets the flu will they be stood down too?

I would have thought staying away from people with Covid19 is probably a good way to not get it.
I think it's disgraceful that they're forcing people to get the flu jab.

They aren't forcing anyone, they have a choice.

And if I hold a gun to your head and tell you to hand over your wife n children, I'm not forcing you, you have a choice.
So if you choose to not hand them over and I pull the trigger, you killed yourself by not "choosing" to hand them over?

They're being forced into a "choice" and either option isn't what they want to "choose"

No one is holding a gun to anyone’s head. Nor are they try to steal family members. It’s a simple choice. This is the deal that was done to allow resumption of the competition. If you don’t like at as a player you can go and find another job. You are free todo so.

You're missing the point
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148752) said:
We’re talking about. a jab in the arm, not guns to the head

No, we're talking about being forced to 'choose' between two options and you don't want either of them.
 
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148751) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148747) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148746) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148295) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148261) said:
At this time last year (or the year before or the year before that or any year)
would players be getting stood down for not getting a flu jab?

So why are they now?

Because it was part of the deal with the Government(s) on the restart of the NRL that all players and staff be vaccinated. This was one of the conditions of allowing the restart of the NRL. Had it not been included none of the State Governments would have agreed to the proposal.

And forcing people to get flu shots become ok when?

The players have a choice, there are consequences to that choice. They can decide. No one is holding them down and forcing a needle into them.

They're being forced to choose between two options that they don't want.
Not really a fair to call it a choice.

If you're forced to choose between getting a bullet in the head or hand over your wife and kids, would you say that's a fair choice?

Because it's the same thing (maybe a little more at stake) but that's not my point, you're still being forced to choose between two options that you don't want

Not the same at all. That’s life. You get to choose if you like to or not. If you don’t like the options your employer gives you you go and find another job. Another career even. It’s still your choice. It happens all the time.
 
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148756) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148751) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148747) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148746) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148295) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148261) said:
At this time last year (or the year before or the year before that or any year)
would players be getting stood down for not getting a flu jab?

So why are they now?

Because it was part of the deal with the Government(s) on the restart of the NRL that all players and staff be vaccinated. This was one of the conditions of allowing the restart of the NRL. Had it not been included none of the State Governments would have agreed to the proposal.

And forcing people to get flu shots become ok when?

The players have a choice, there are consequences to that choice. They can decide. No one is holding them down and forcing a needle into them.

They're being forced to choose between two options that they don't want.
Not really a fair to call it a choice.

If you're forced to choose between getting a bullet in the head or hand over your wife and kids, would you say that's a fair choice?

Because it's the same thing (maybe a little more at stake) but that's not my point, you're still being forced to choose between two options that you don't want

Not the same at all. That’s life. You get to choose if you like to or not. If you don’t like the options your employer gives you you go and find another job. Another career even. It’s still your choice. It happens all the time.

It's exactly the same, their being forced to do something against their will and their pay is being held at ransom until they do.

That's pretty much putting someone's livelihood at risk if you ask me.
It's totally wrong!!!
 
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148746) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148295) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148261) said:
At this time last year (or the year before or the year before that or any year)
would players be getting stood down for not getting a flu jab?

So why are they now?

Because it was part of the deal with the Government(s) on the restart of the NRL that all players and staff be vaccinated. This was one of the conditions of allowing the restart of the NRL. Had it not been included none of the State Governments would have agreed to the proposal.

And forcing people to get flu shots become ok when?

Who is being forced?
 
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148757) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148756) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148751) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148747) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148746) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148295) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148261) said:
At this time last year (or the year before or the year before that or any year)
would players be getting stood down for not getting a flu jab?

So why are they now?

Because it was part of the deal with the Government(s) on the restart of the NRL that all players and staff be vaccinated. This was one of the conditions of allowing the restart of the NRL. Had it not been included none of the State Governments would have agreed to the proposal.

And forcing people to get flu shots become ok when?

The players have a choice, there are consequences to that choice. They can decide. No one is holding them down and forcing a needle into them.

They're being forced to choose between two options that they don't want.
Not really a fair to call it a choice.

If you're forced to choose between getting a bullet in the head or hand over your wife and kids, would you say that's a fair choice?

Because it's the same thing (maybe a little more at stake) but that's not my point, you're still being forced to choose between two options that you don't want

Not the same at all. That’s life. You get to choose if you like to or not. If you don’t like the options your employer gives you you go and find another job. Another career even. It’s still your choice. It happens all the time.

It's exactly the same, their being forced to do something against their will and their pay is being held at ransom until they do.

That's pretty much putting someone's livelihood at risk if you ask me.
It's totally wrong!!!

They are not being forced to do anything against their will. They are given a choice. It’s a feee society and they can either choose to accept it or do something else. It’s not totally wrong at all, in fact it’s totally right.
 
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148757) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148756) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148751) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148747) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148746) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148295) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148261) said:
At this time last year (or the year before or the year before that or any year)
would players be getting stood down for not getting a flu jab?

So why are they now?

Because it was part of the deal with the Government(s) on the restart of the NRL that all players and staff be vaccinated. This was one of the conditions of allowing the restart of the NRL. Had it not been included none of the State Governments would have agreed to the proposal.

And forcing people to get flu shots become ok when?

The players have a choice, there are consequences to that choice. They can decide. No one is holding them down and forcing a needle into them.

They're being forced to choose between two options that they don't want.
Not really a fair to call it a choice.

If you're forced to choose between getting a bullet in the head or hand over your wife and kids, would you say that's a fair choice?

Because it's the same thing (maybe a little more at stake) but that's not my point, you're still being forced to choose between two options that you don't want

Not the same at all. That’s life. You get to choose if you like to or not. If you don’t like the options your employer gives you you go and find another job. Another career even. It’s still your choice. It happens all the time.

It's exactly the same, their being forced to do something against their will and their pay is being held at ransom until they do.

That's pretty much putting someone's livelihood at risk if you ask me.
It's totally wrong!!!

We all have to do things we don’t want to do in order to keep our jobs. I don’t like having to get up at 6 in the morning. Is my employer holding me at ransom to get out of bed?
 
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148748) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148273) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148270) said:
@tiger_one said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148264) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148261) said:
At this time last year (or the year before or the year before that or any year)
would players be getting stood down for not getting a flu jab?

So why are they now?


Apparently, if you get the flu, your immune system is reduced and the there's a higher risk to catch Covid-19.
And if one player gets Coronavirus, it's more likely to spread among the players.
So caution is required.

And yet the flu injection is only around 45% effective.
So 55% of players will get the flu regardless, therefore potentially be more at risk of getting covid19 (apparently)
So if any player gets the flu will they be stood down too?

I would have thought staying away from people with Covid19 is probably a good way to not get it.
I think it's disgraceful that they're forcing people to get the flu jab.

They aren't forcing anyone, they have a choice.

And if I hold a gun to your head and tell you to hand over your wife n children, I'm not forcing you, you have a choice.
So if you choose to not hand them over and I pull the trigger, you killed yourself by not "choosing" to hand them over?

They're being forced into a "choice" and either option isn't what they want to "choose"

No I wouldn't have killed myself, I would have been killed by another person because I made the choice to put my families life before mine, that is still a choice. Both outcomes being negative does not take away the choice, though your example is disgusting and shows a lot about you.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148760) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148757) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148756) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148751) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148747) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148746) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148295) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148261) said:
At this time last year (or the year before or the year before that or any year)
would players be getting stood down for not getting a flu jab?

So why are they now?

Because it was part of the deal with the Government(s) on the restart of the NRL that all players and staff be vaccinated. This was one of the conditions of allowing the restart of the NRL. Had it not been included none of the State Governments would have agreed to the proposal.

And forcing people to get flu shots become ok when?

The players have a choice, there are consequences to that choice. They can decide. No one is holding them down and forcing a needle into them.

They're being forced to choose between two options that they don't want.
Not really a fair to call it a choice.

If you're forced to choose between getting a bullet in the head or hand over your wife and kids, would you say that's a fair choice?

Because it's the same thing (maybe a little more at stake) but that's not my point, you're still being forced to choose between two options that you don't want

Not the same at all. That’s life. You get to choose if you like to or not. If you don’t like the options your employer gives you you go and find another job. Another career even. It’s still your choice. It happens all the time.

It's exactly the same, their being forced to do something against their will and their pay is being held at ransom until they do.

That's pretty much putting someone's livelihood at risk if you ask me.
It's totally wrong!!!

We all have to do things we don’t want to do in order to keep our jobs. I don’t like having to get up at 6 in the morning. Is my employer holding me at ransom to get out of bed?

Why do you make the choice to get out of bed?
 
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148761) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148748) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148273) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148270) said:
@tiger_one said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148264) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148261) said:
At this time last year (or the year before or the year before that or any year)
would players be getting stood down for not getting a flu jab?

So why are they now?


Apparently, if you get the flu, your immune system is reduced and the there's a higher risk to catch Covid-19.
And if one player gets Coronavirus, it's more likely to spread among the players.
So caution is required.

And yet the flu injection is only around 45% effective.
So 55% of players will get the flu regardless, therefore potentially be more at risk of getting covid19 (apparently)
So if any player gets the flu will they be stood down too?

I would have thought staying away from people with Covid19 is probably a good way to not get it.
I think it's disgraceful that they're forcing people to get the flu jab.

They aren't forcing anyone, they have a choice.

And if I hold a gun to your head and tell you to hand over your wife n children, I'm not forcing you, you have a choice.
So if you choose to not hand them over and I pull the trigger, you killed yourself by not "choosing" to hand them over?

They're being forced into a "choice" and either option isn't what they want to "choose"

No I wouldn't have killed myself, I would have been killed by another person because I made the choice to put my families life before mine, that is still a choice. Both outcomes being negative does not take away the choice, though your example is disgusting and shows a lot about you.

Really?
 
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148763) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148761) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148748) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148273) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148270) said:
@tiger_one said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148264) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148261) said:
At this time last year (or the year before or the year before that or any year)
would players be getting stood down for not getting a flu jab?

So why are they now?


Apparently, if you get the flu, your immune system is reduced and the there's a higher risk to catch Covid-19.
And if one player gets Coronavirus, it's more likely to spread among the players.
So caution is required.

And yet the flu injection is only around 45% effective.
So 55% of players will get the flu regardless, therefore potentially be more at risk of getting covid19 (apparently)
So if any player gets the flu will they be stood down too?

I would have thought staying away from people with Covid19 is probably a good way to not get it.
I think it's disgraceful that they're forcing people to get the flu jab.

They aren't forcing anyone, they have a choice.

And if I hold a gun to your head and tell you to hand over your wife n children, I'm not forcing you, you have a choice.
So if you choose to not hand them over and I pull the trigger, you killed yourself by not "choosing" to hand them over?

They're being forced into a "choice" and either option isn't what they want to "choose"

No I wouldn't have killed myself, I would have been killed by another person because I made the choice to put my families life before mine, that is still a choice. Both outcomes being negative does not take away the choice, though your example is disgusting and shows a lot about you.

Really?

What part isn't true?
 
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148759) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148757) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148756) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148751) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148747) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148746) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148295) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148261) said:
At this time last year (or the year before or the year before that or any year)
would players be getting stood down for not getting a flu jab?

So why are they now?

Because it was part of the deal with the Government(s) on the restart of the NRL that all players and staff be vaccinated. This was one of the conditions of allowing the restart of the NRL. Had it not been included none of the State Governments would have agreed to the proposal.

And forcing people to get flu shots become ok when?

The players have a choice, there are consequences to that choice. They can decide. No one is holding them down and forcing a needle into them.

They're being forced to choose between two options that they don't want.
Not really a fair to call it a choice.

If you're forced to choose between getting a bullet in the head or hand over your wife and kids, would you say that's a fair choice?

Because it's the same thing (maybe a little more at stake) but that's not my point, you're still being forced to choose between two options that you don't want

Not the same at all. That’s life. You get to choose if you like to or not. If you don’t like the options your employer gives you you go and find another job. Another career even. It’s still your choice. It happens all the time.

It's exactly the same, their being forced to do something against their will and their pay is being held at ransom until they do.

That's pretty much putting someone's livelihood at risk if you ask me.
It's totally wrong!!!

They are not being forced to do anything against their will. They are given a choice. It’s a feee society and they can either choose to accept it or do something else. It’s not totally wrong at all, in fact it’s totally right.

I disagree
 
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148765) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148759) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148757) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148756) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148751) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148747) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148746) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148295) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148261) said:
At this time last year (or the year before or the year before that or any year)
would players be getting stood down for not getting a flu jab?

So why are they now?

Because it was part of the deal with the Government(s) on the restart of the NRL that all players and staff be vaccinated. This was one of the conditions of allowing the restart of the NRL. Had it not been included none of the State Governments would have agreed to the proposal.

And forcing people to get flu shots become ok when?

The players have a choice, there are consequences to that choice. They can decide. No one is holding them down and forcing a needle into them.

They're being forced to choose between two options that they don't want.
Not really a fair to call it a choice.

If you're forced to choose between getting a bullet in the head or hand over your wife and kids, would you say that's a fair choice?

Because it's the same thing (maybe a little more at stake) but that's not my point, you're still being forced to choose between two options that you don't want

Not the same at all. That’s life. You get to choose if you like to or not. If you don’t like the options your employer gives you you go and find another job. Another career even. It’s still your choice. It happens all the time.

It's exactly the same, their being forced to do something against their will and their pay is being held at ransom until they do.

That's pretty much putting someone's livelihood at risk if you ask me.
It's totally wrong!!!

They are not being forced to do anything against their will. They are given a choice. It’s a feee society and they can either choose to accept it or do something else. It’s not totally wrong at all, in fact it’s totally right.

I disagree

And you are wrong.
 
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148764) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148763) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148761) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148748) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148273) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148270) said:
@tiger_one said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148264) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148261) said:
At this time last year (or the year before or the year before that or any year)
would players be getting stood down for not getting a flu jab?

So why are they now?


Apparently, if you get the flu, your immune system is reduced and the there's a higher risk to catch Covid-19.
And if one player gets Coronavirus, it's more likely to spread among the players.
So caution is required.

And yet the flu injection is only around 45% effective.
So 55% of players will get the flu regardless, therefore potentially be more at risk of getting covid19 (apparently)
So if any player gets the flu will they be stood down too?

I would have thought staying away from people with Covid19 is probably a good way to not get it.
I think it's disgraceful that they're forcing people to get the flu jab.

They aren't forcing anyone, they have a choice.

And if I hold a gun to your head and tell you to hand over your wife n children, I'm not forcing you, you have a choice.
So if you choose to not hand them over and I pull the trigger, you killed yourself by not "choosing" to hand them over?

They're being forced into a "choice" and either option isn't what they want to "choose"

No I wouldn't have killed myself, I would have been killed by another person because I made the choice to put my families life before mine, that is still a choice. Both outcomes being negative does not take away the choice, though your example is disgusting and shows a lot about you.

Really?

What part isn't true?

I'm asking 'really' in response to my example showing a lot about me.
You know nothing about me, don't pretend to because of the example I chose to use.
 
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148766) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148765) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148759) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148757) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148756) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148751) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148747) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148746) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148295) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148261) said:
At this time last year (or the year before or the year before that or any year)
would players be getting stood down for not getting a flu jab?

So why are they now?

Because it was part of the deal with the Government(s) on the restart of the NRL that all players and staff be vaccinated. This was one of the conditions of allowing the restart of the NRL. Had it not been included none of the State Governments would have agreed to the proposal.

And forcing people to get flu shots become ok when?

The players have a choice, there are consequences to that choice. They can decide. No one is holding them down and forcing a needle into them.

They're being forced to choose between two options that they don't want.
Not really a fair to call it a choice.

If you're forced to choose between getting a bullet in the head or hand over your wife and kids, would you say that's a fair choice?

Because it's the same thing (maybe a little more at stake) but that's not my point, you're still being forced to choose between two options that you don't want

Not the same at all. That’s life. You get to choose if you like to or not. If you don’t like the options your employer gives you you go and find another job. Another career even. It’s still your choice. It happens all the time.

It's exactly the same, their being forced to do something against their will and their pay is being held at ransom until they do.

That's pretty much putting someone's livelihood at risk if you ask me.
It's totally wrong!!!

They are not being forced to do anything against their will. They are given a choice. It’s a feee society and they can either choose to accept it or do something else. It’s not totally wrong at all, in fact it’s totally right.

I disagree

And you are wrong.

You don't get to just claim that someone is wrong, you have to demonstrate it
 
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148767) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148764) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148763) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148761) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148748) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148273) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148270) said:
@tiger_one said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148264) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148261) said:
At this time last year (or the year before or the year before that or any year)
would players be getting stood down for not getting a flu jab?

So why are they now?


Apparently, if you get the flu, your immune system is reduced and the there's a higher risk to catch Covid-19.
And if one player gets Coronavirus, it's more likely to spread among the players.
So caution is required.

And yet the flu injection is only around 45% effective.
So 55% of players will get the flu regardless, therefore potentially be more at risk of getting covid19 (apparently)
So if any player gets the flu will they be stood down too?

I would have thought staying away from people with Covid19 is probably a good way to not get it.
I think it's disgraceful that they're forcing people to get the flu jab.

They aren't forcing anyone, they have a choice.

And if I hold a gun to your head and tell you to hand over your wife n children, I'm not forcing you, you have a choice.
So if you choose to not hand them over and I pull the trigger, you killed yourself by not "choosing" to hand them over?

They're being forced into a "choice" and either option isn't what they want to "choose"

No I wouldn't have killed myself, I would have been killed by another person because I made the choice to put my families life before mine, that is still a choice. Both outcomes being negative does not take away the choice, though your example is disgusting and shows a lot about you.

Really?

What part isn't true?

I'm asking 'really' in response to my example showing a lot about me.
You know nothing about me, don't pretend to because of the example I chose to use.

Yeah, you go straight to holding a gun to someone's head and threatening someone's family, most people don't think like that.
 
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148768) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148766) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148765) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148759) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148757) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148756) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148751) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148747) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148746) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148295) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148261) said:
At this time last year (or the year before or the year before that or any year)
would players be getting stood down for not getting a flu jab?

So why are they now?

Because it was part of the deal with the Government(s) on the restart of the NRL that all players and staff be vaccinated. This was one of the conditions of allowing the restart of the NRL. Had it not been included none of the State Governments would have agreed to the proposal.

And forcing people to get flu shots become ok when?

The players have a choice, there are consequences to that choice. They can decide. No one is holding them down and forcing a needle into them.

They're being forced to choose between two options that they don't want.
Not really a fair to call it a choice.

If you're forced to choose between getting a bullet in the head or hand over your wife and kids, would you say that's a fair choice?

Because it's the same thing (maybe a little more at stake) but that's not my point, you're still being forced to choose between two options that you don't want

Not the same at all. That’s life. You get to choose if you like to or not. If you don’t like the options your employer gives you you go and find another job. Another career even. It’s still your choice. It happens all the time.

It's exactly the same, their being forced to do something against their will and their pay is being held at ransom until they do.

That's pretty much putting someone's livelihood at risk if you ask me.
It's totally wrong!!!

They are not being forced to do anything against their will. They are given a choice. It’s a feee society and they can either choose to accept it or do something else. It’s not totally wrong at all, in fact it’s totally right.

I disagree

And you are wrong.

You don't get to just claim that someone is wrong, you have to demonstrate it

Says the fool that does just that constantly in the Bitcoin thread, I don't know how many times you have told people they are wrong and refused to give a reason.

In saying that, I demonstrated you were wrong in my previous post. The players have a choice.
 
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148769) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148767) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148764) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148763) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148761) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148748) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148273) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148270) said:
@tiger_one said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148264) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148261) said:
At this time last year (or the year before or the year before that or any year)
would players be getting stood down for not getting a flu jab?

So why are they now?


Apparently, if you get the flu, your immune system is reduced and the there's a higher risk to catch Covid-19.
And if one player gets Coronavirus, it's more likely to spread among the players.
So caution is required.

And yet the flu injection is only around 45% effective.
So 55% of players will get the flu regardless, therefore potentially be more at risk of getting covid19 (apparently)
So if any player gets the flu will they be stood down too?

I would have thought staying away from people with Covid19 is probably a good way to not get it.
I think it's disgraceful that they're forcing people to get the flu jab.

They aren't forcing anyone, they have a choice.

And if I hold a gun to your head and tell you to hand over your wife n children, I'm not forcing you, you have a choice.
So if you choose to not hand them over and I pull the trigger, you killed yourself by not "choosing" to hand them over?

They're being forced into a "choice" and either option isn't what they want to "choose"

No I wouldn't have killed myself, I would have been killed by another person because I made the choice to put my families life before mine, that is still a choice. Both outcomes being negative does not take away the choice, though your example is disgusting and shows a lot about you.

Really?

What part isn't true?

I'm asking 'really' in response to my example showing a lot about me.
You know nothing about me, don't pretend to because of the example I chose to use.

Yeah, you go straight to holding a gun to someone's head and threatening someone's family, most people don't think like that.

So what?
 
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148770) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148768) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148766) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148765) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148759) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148757) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148756) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148751) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148747) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148746) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148295) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1148261) said:
At this time last year (or the year before or the year before that or any year)
would players be getting stood down for not getting a flu jab?

So why are they now?

Because it was part of the deal with the Government(s) on the restart of the NRL that all players and staff be vaccinated. This was one of the conditions of allowing the restart of the NRL. Had it not been included none of the State Governments would have agreed to the proposal.

And forcing people to get flu shots become ok when?

The players have a choice, there are consequences to that choice. They can decide. No one is holding them down and forcing a needle into them.

They're being forced to choose between two options that they don't want.
Not really a fair to call it a choice.

If you're forced to choose between getting a bullet in the head or hand over your wife and kids, would you say that's a fair choice?

Because it's the same thing (maybe a little more at stake) but that's not my point, you're still being forced to choose between two options that you don't want

Not the same at all. That’s life. You get to choose if you like to or not. If you don’t like the options your employer gives you you go and find another job. Another career even. It’s still your choice. It happens all the time.

It's exactly the same, their being forced to do something against their will and their pay is being held at ransom until they do.

That's pretty much putting someone's livelihood at risk if you ask me.
It's totally wrong!!!

They are not being forced to do anything against their will. They are given a choice. It’s a feee society and they can either choose to accept it or do something else. It’s not totally wrong at all, in fact it’s totally right.

I disagree

And you are wrong.

You don't get to just claim that someone is wrong, you have to demonstrate it

Says the fool that does just that constantly in the Bitcoin thread, I don't know how many times you have told people they are wrong and refused to give a reason.

In saying that, I demonstrated you were wrong in my previous post. The players have a choice.

Do you have anything better to do than to argue with people on this forum?
 
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