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It isn’t crazy to question all this and I'd encourage everyone to do so and don't believe everything your television tells you, even if it's not from some "backward country" whatever that means

If you want to call me the conspiracy theorist to make you feel superior, go ahead, but sometimes these theories evolve into fact

Conspiracy theorist was a term which originated from the CIA to classify those who disputed the findings of the Warren Commission into JFK's assassination

Pretty much the vast majority now dispute those findings. That's how these htings work
 
@Curly_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292745) said:
It isn’t crazy to question all this

We are being forced to wear masks, social distance, no contact, endure lock downs, travel restrictions, limits on gatherings, check in at all times wherever you are, police each other’s compliance, etc

And now the push for vaccination is gathering pace. Not mandatory but in practice it will endeavour to be so with various mechanisms being employed by government but also by corporate juggernauts who are flourishing through this nonsense

And the approach is very similar all across the world, almost co-ordinated

All for something that in Australia has 28,700 people having tested positive using a PCR test even the WHO acknowledges as producing a very high level of false positives (which the video discusses). ‬ ‪Of those just over 900 have died most of whom were elderly or had serious health issues‬ ‪

It’s not about fake deaths, it’s about questionable statistics. It’s about dying “with” covid not “of” covid. Get a positive test, die of anything in the following (varies) 28 days and it’s a covid death irrespective of what you actually die of. And all the field hospitals, mass graves and overflowing hospitals are what is being told to you by the media and you believe it as gospel, because they would never lie to you

Yet if you question it the labels come out. Conspiracy theorist, Flat earther, and the favourite, a Denier

I question it all

Of course, everyone is free to think what they want.

But if this is some grand plan, it means hundreds of thousands of unrelated scientists and government officials around the world are all in on some huge secret and have kept their mouths shut while big businesses have somehow agreed to wipe billions off their valuations.

The alternative is that there's a new virus that immune systems haven't adapted to yet and the world is trying to get through as best they can until we have some tools to stop people getting sick and dying.
 
@Curly_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292817) said:
It isn’t crazy to question all this and I'd encourage everyone to do so and don't believe everything your television tells you, even if it's not from some "backward country" whatever that means

If you want to call me the conspiracy theorist to make you feel superior, go ahead, but sometimes these theories evolve into fact

Conspiracy theorist was a term which originated from the CIA to classify those who disputed the findings of the Warren Commission into JFK's assassination

Pretty much **the vast majority now dispute those findings**. That's how these htings work

Says who? Do you have any actual evidence to support that claim or is that just your opinion?
 
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292818) said:
@Curly_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292745) said:
It isn’t crazy to question all this

We are being forced to wear masks, social distance, no contact, endure lock downs, travel restrictions, limits on gatherings, check in at all times wherever you are, police each other’s compliance, etc

And now the push for vaccination is gathering pace. Not mandatory but in practice it will endeavour to be so with various mechanisms being employed by government but also by corporate juggernauts who are flourishing through this nonsense

And the approach is very similar all across the world, almost co-ordinated

All for something that in Australia has 28,700 people having tested positive using a PCR test even the WHO acknowledges as producing a very high level of false positives (which the video discusses). ‬ ‪Of those just over 900 have died most of whom were elderly or had serious health issues‬ ‪

It’s not about fake deaths, it’s about questionable statistics. It’s about dying “with” covid not “of” covid. Get a positive test, die of anything in the following (varies) 28 days and it’s a covid death irrespective of what you actually die of. And all the field hospitals, mass graves and overflowing hospitals are what is being told to you by the media and you believe it as gospel, because they would never lie to you

Yet if you question it the labels come out. Conspiracy theorist, Flat earther, and the favourite, a Denier

I question it all

Of course, everyone is free to think what they want.

But if this is some grand plan, it means hundreds of thousands of unrelated scientists and government officials around the world are all in on some huge secret and have kept their mouths shut while big businesses have somehow agreed to wipe billions off their valuations.

The alternative is that there's a new virus that immune systems haven't adapted to yet and the world is trying to get through as best they can until we have some tools to stop people getting sick and dying.

I'd also add that the closest thing resembling a conspiracy is business lobby groups wanting to raise doubt, get people out and about, keep working, keep spending and going about life like they did before.
 
I haven’t really followed what’s happening with the world & Covids

How many people die from the regular flu / with annually say in the U.S compared to what’s happening with covids ?
 
@hobbo1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292828) said:
I haven’t really followed what’s happening with the world & Covids

How many people die from the regular flu / with annually say in the U.S compared to what’s happening with covids ?

Usual US flu deaths are between 35,000-60,000 p/a Current deaths from Covid19 in the US is 380,000 in 11 months.
 
@hobbo1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292828) said:
I haven’t really followed what’s happening with the world & Covids

How many people die from the regular flu / with annually say in the U.S compared to what’s happening with covids ?

According to the WHO, annual global flu deaths range between 290,000-650,000. Covid has killed just shy of 2 million, and that is with far more stringent controls than are applied to the flu. The death toll is still accelerating though. The daily death tolls we have being seeing lately, if they continue would lead to an annual toll of closer to 6 million than 2 millon.
 
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292833) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292828) said:
I haven’t really followed what’s happening with the world & Covids

How many people die from the regular flu / with annually say in the U.S compared to what’s happening with covids ?

Usual US flu deaths are between 35,000-60,000 p/a Current deaths from Covid19 in the US is 380,000 in 11 months.

We're flu deaths down this past year?
 
Over 4400 deaths frpm Covid-19 in the USA on 12th January 2021 suggests that it is far worse than just being a bad flu.Certainly the next 2 months it will be at its peak in the northern hemisphere so things are not looking good
 
@gallagher said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292837) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292833) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292828) said:
I haven’t really followed what’s happening with the world & Covids

How many people die from the regular flu / with annually say in the U.S compared to what’s happening with covids ?

Usual US flu deaths are between 35,000-60,000 p/a Current deaths from Covid19 in the US is 380,000 in 11 months.

We're flu deaths down this past year?

Yes, down to 22,000.
 
@Curly_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292817) said:
It isn’t crazy to question all this and I'd encourage everyone to do so and don't believe everything your television tells you, even if it's not from some "backward country" whatever that means
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Conspiracy theorist was a term which originated from the CIA to classify those who disputed the findings of the Warren Commission into JFK's assassination

You question “all this” but seemingly accept without question whatever dodgy internet site told you that the CIA originated the term “conspiracy theorist “?
 
@Curly_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292817) said:
It isn’t crazy to question all this and I'd encourage everyone to do so and don't believe everything your television tells you, even if it's not from some "backward country" whatever that means

If you want to call me the conspiracy theorist to make you feel superior, go ahead, but sometimes these theories evolve into fact

Conspiracy theorist was a term which originated from the CIA to classify those who disputed the findings of the Warren Commission into JFK's assassination

Pretty much the vast majority now dispute those findings. That's how these htings work

Geez, I think that I disturbed the hornets nest even more than you did.

Still, whilst I can agree on the need to question just about everything and no doubt the virus is being used for ulterior motives, but exhausted and distressed health workers around the world are real.
 
@Nelson said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292843) said:
@Curly_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292817) said:
It isn’t crazy to question all this and I'd encourage everyone to do so and don't believe everything your television tells you, even if it's not from some "backward country" whatever that means
...
Conspiracy theorist was a term which originated from the CIA to classify those who disputed the findings of the Warren Commission into JFK's assassination

You question “all this” but seemingly accept without question whatever dodgy internet site told you that the CIA originated the term “conspiracy theorist “?

Pretty funny isn’t it.
 
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@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292847) said:
@Nelson said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292843) said:
@Curly_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292817) said:
It isn’t crazy to question all this and I'd encourage everyone to do so and don't believe everything your television tells you, even if it's not from some "backward country" whatever that means
...
Conspiracy theorist was a term which originated from the CIA to classify those who disputed the findings of the Warren Commission into JFK's assassination

You question “all this” but seemingly accept without question whatever dodgy internet site told you that the CIA originated the term “conspiracy theorist “?

Pretty funny isn’t it.

About as funny as believing it's been debunked by incredulous sites like Snopes. Look into them when you have a minute

Perhaps it arose earlier not through them but they certainly "weaponised it". "False flags" are a real thing, check them out, Gulf of Tonkin incident which ramped up US involvement in Vietnam is a less controversial one than 911

Here's one bit of discussion on the matter. I get we won't convince each other by putting up one source against another. You'll claim mine are loopy and I'll claim yours are owned or behlden to a system. Either way, there are different points of view

https://ampoli.com/the-origins-of-the-term-conspiracy-theory/

I'm not here to convince you just to challenge what is being accepted, call me a contrarian if you like but it is a healthy thing to being open to alternate opinions. I respect your right to yours even if I don't agree. I may try to convince you otherwise but I won't call you an idiot or get personal
 
@Curly_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292853) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292847) said:
@Nelson said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292843) said:
@Curly_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292817) said:
It isn’t crazy to question all this and I'd encourage everyone to do so and don't believe everything your television tells you, even if it's not from some "backward country" whatever that means
...
Conspiracy theorist was a term which originated from the CIA to classify those who disputed the findings of the Warren Commission into JFK's assassination

You question “all this” but seemingly accept without question whatever dodgy internet site told you that the CIA originated the term “conspiracy theorist “?

Pretty funny isn’t it.

About as funny as believing it's been debunked by incredulous sites like Snopes. Look into them when you have a minute

Perhaps it arose earlier not through them but they certainly "weaponised it". "False flags" are a real thing, check them out, Gulf of Tonkin incident which ramped up US involvement in Vietnam is a less controversial one than 911

Here's one bit of discussion on the matter. I get we won't convince each other by putting up one source against another. You'll claim mine are loopy and I'll claim yours are owned or behlden to a system. Either way, there are different points of view

https://ampoli.com/the-origins-of-the-term-conspiracy-theory/

I'm not here to convince you just to challenge what is being accepted, call me a contrarian if you like but it is a healthy thing to being open to alternate opinions. I respect your right to yours even if I don't agree. I may try to convince you otherwise but I won't call you an idiot or get personal

So no actual evidence then. OK
 
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292855) said:
@Curly_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292853) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292847) said:
@Nelson said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292843) said:
@Curly_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292817) said:
It isn’t crazy to question all this and I'd encourage everyone to do so and don't believe everything your television tells you, even if it's not from some "backward country" whatever that means
...
Conspiracy theorist was a term which originated from the CIA to classify those who disputed the findings of the Warren Commission into JFK's assassination

You question “all this” but seemingly accept without question whatever dodgy internet site told you that the CIA originated the term “conspiracy theorist “?

Pretty funny isn’t it.

About as funny as believing it's been debunked by incredulous sites like Snopes. Look into them when you have a minute

Perhaps it arose earlier not through them but they certainly "weaponised it". "False flags" are a real thing, check them out, Gulf of Tonkin incident which ramped up US involvement in Vietnam is a less controversial one than 911

Here's one bit of discussion on the matter. I get we won't convince each other by putting up one source against another. You'll claim mine are loopy and I'll claim yours are owned or behlden to a system. Either way, there are different points of view

https://ampoli.com/the-origins-of-the-term-conspiracy-theory/

I'm not here to convince you just to challenge what is being accepted, call me a contrarian if you like but it is a healthy thing to being open to alternate opinions. I respect your right to yours even if I don't agree. I may try to convince you otherwise but I won't call you an idiot or get personal

So no actual evidence then. OK

I rest my case
 
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292804) said:
Looks like we are recycling all the old conspiracy theories.Who really shot JFK?

According to Red Dwarf JFK was the shooter on the Grassy Knoll.
 
@Curly_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1292721) said:
I would recommend watching this, he makes some very interesting points. I would be interested in the balanced views of the group

https://rumble.com/vcesav-brave-reporter-goes-off-script-on-air.html



Thank you great video everyone should watch

A friend of mine works in a lab in Sydney says most of the people there feel the same as what this doctor says and she's told she's not allowed to wear a mask because it increases infections only gloves and a lab coat

It's amazing how many sheep there are in this world go home watch tv and the control starts out as fear then escalation into wearing mask
 
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