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@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448130) said:
My sons don't visit their dying mother because the risk of either bringing Covid into her place of residence or catching it themselves is too great.

We can chose to act in accordance with the spirit of NSW Covid restrictions are we can choose not too.

There will be plenty of time to ride motorcycles later.

The spirit of the restrictions? The spirit is you can exercise or engage in outdoor recreation if you are not partaking with other people. If they didn't want people leaving home they would remove the exercise/recreation rule altogether.

And your sons should stay away from a residence. I had a dying uncle last year I didn't visit because he had aggressive blood cancer that took him in 10 months from the date of diagnosis (found out Christmas Day 2019,) and he spent that time totally messed up by radiotherapy and chemotherapy which blitzed his immune system. Could not visit him once because I was afraid not only of possibly infecting him with COVID I could have unknowingly had of but so I didn't also give him the flu or a cold or anything else. That is common sense.

And for what it is worth, I am sorry to hear that your sons cannot see their mother. I can imagine that would be extremely difficult for them.
 
I wrote yesterday about construction workers from the South West of Sydney working in Kiama, which has many retirees as residents. Kiama is considered regional NSW.

These workers have been fined for breaching public health orders after being reported by residents.

No doubt this is typical of the attitude that health orders can be disregarded because they don't apply to me, either on a construction site in a regional area.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448085) said:
The Vics have 57 new cases today. I feel sorry for all Vics.

Not great, but 44 of those were fully in quarantine, many of them close contacts of previous positives who, in turn, tested positive in their day 13 test. So not entirely unexpected.

The biggest concern is the number of "mystery" cases in the St Kilda area. A St Kilda sex worker recently tested positive, so I suspect that there might be a few porkies being told to the contract tracers and a few "tense" discussions happening in some St Kilda homes.

But the whole lockdown thing is wearing a bit thin. I mean, I fully support it but, at the same time, I'm well and truly over it. Anyway, there'll be plenty of people who are finding it tougher than I am. Missing the grandkids most of all.
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448134) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448130) said:
My sons don't visit their dying mother because the risk of either bringing Covid into her place of residence or catching it themselves is too great.

We can chose to act in accordance with the spirit of NSW Covid restrictions are we can choose not too.

There will be plenty of time to ride motorcycles later.

The spirit of the restrictions? The spirit is you can exercise or engage in outdoor recreation if you are not partaking with other people. If they didn't want people leaving home they would remove the exercise/recreation rule altogether.

And your sons should stay away from a residence. I had a dying uncle last year I didn't visit because he had aggressive blood cancer that took him in 10 months from the date of diagnosis (found out Christmas Day 2019,) and he spent that time totally messed up by radiotherapy and chemotherapy which blitzed his immune system. Could not visit him once because I was afraid not only of possibly infecting him with COVID I could have unknowingly had of but so I didn't also give him the flu or a cold or anything else. That is common sense.

And for what it is worth, I am sorry to hear that your sons cannot see their mother. I can imagine that would be extremely difficult for them.

There is a list of reasons you can leave the home which I posted a link to much earlier. You can choose to abide by them or you can choose not too. We each have to live with our own actions.
 
@tigger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448204) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448085) said:
The Vics have 57 new cases today. I feel sorry for all Vics.

Not great, but 44 of those were fully in quarantine, many of them close contacts of previous positives who, in turn, tested positive in their day 13 test. So not entirely unexpected.

The biggest concern is the number of "mystery" cases in the St Kilda area. A St Kilda sex worker recently tested positive, so I suspect that there might be a few porkies being told to the contract tracers and a few "tense" discussions happening in some St Kilda homes.

But the whole lockdown thing is wearing a bit thin. I mean, I fully support it but, at the same time, I'm well and truly over it. Anyway, there'll be plenty of people who are finding it tougher than I am. Missing the grandkids most of all.

I worry for the poor old Vics and also that the level of testing is much lower than NSW. I wish Dan was here in NSW to provide steel to enforcement.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448207) said:
@tigger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448204) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448085) said:
The Vics have 57 new cases today. I feel sorry for all Vics.

Not great, but 44 of those were fully in quarantine, many of them close contacts of previous positives who, in turn, tested positive in their day 13 test. So not entirely unexpected.

The biggest concern is the number of "mystery" cases in the St Kilda area. A St Kilda sex worker recently tested positive, so I suspect that there might be a few porkies being told to the contract tracers and a few "tense" discussions happening in some St Kilda homes.

But the whole lockdown thing is wearing a bit thin. I mean, I fully support it but, at the same time, I'm well and truly over it. Anyway, there'll be plenty of people who are finding it tougher than I am. Missing the grandkids most of all.

I worry for the poor old Vics and also that the level of testing is much lower than NSW. I wish Dan was here in NSW to provide steel to enforcement.

I feel as though there is actually less enforcement down here, although the rhetoric in that area has been ramped up a little since last weekend.

The main difference, I think, is that we have a standard set of rules as well as standard definitions around things like essential workers. So when a lockdown is called we all know what that means. It's not continually changing, it's the same as it was last time. Get on with it. There is little ambiguity.

But it's wearing thin. After 6 lockdowns, and the extensions to this last one, more people, particularly the younger, are choosing to ignore those instructions.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448205) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448134) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448130) said:
My sons don't visit their dying mother because the risk of either bringing Covid into her place of residence or catching it themselves is too great.

We can chose to act in accordance with the spirit of NSW Covid restrictions are we can choose not too.

There will be plenty of time to ride motorcycles later.

The spirit of the restrictions? The spirit is you can exercise or engage in outdoor recreation if you are not partaking with other people. If they didn't want people leaving home they would remove the exercise/recreation rule altogether.

And your sons should stay away from a residence. I had a dying uncle last year I didn't visit because he had aggressive blood cancer that took him in 10 months from the date of diagnosis (found out Christmas Day 2019,) and he spent that time totally messed up by radiotherapy and chemotherapy which blitzed his immune system. Could not visit him once because I was afraid not only of possibly infecting him with COVID I could have unknowingly had of but so I didn't also give him the flu or a cold or anything else. That is common sense.

And for what it is worth, I am sorry to hear that your sons cannot see their mother. I can imagine that would be extremely difficult for them.

There is a list of reasons you can leave the home which I posted a link to much earlier. You can choose to abide by them or you can choose not too. We each have to live with our own actions.

Yes, and the ones I posted were current as of yesterday from NSW government.

I have a clear conscience on my movements and/or lack thereof. Aside from exercise I do not leave the house until it is to collect groceries or visit a chemist for my heart and blood meds or a specialist appointment. I have even stopped visiting my GP for my six week INR checkups as I don't want to encounter someone going to the GP office with COVID as I am still waiting to be vaccinated.

I wear a mask when I exercise unless I am climbing stairs.

You can continue to sit in your home day in day out with some apparent air of moral superiority while degrading people for acting well within the rules.
 
I'll relay a personal story. It's an update.

My SIL say a month ago rang up my wife and stated to catch up in the Eastern Suburbs. She married a Lebanese Muslim and she is now living in Greenacre or Lakemba or something. They are good people.

Anyway she stated "she wasn't putting those chemicals into her body" and was completely fine with traveling from a hot spot to the Eastern Suburbs. My wife said no and told her to get vaccinated twice.

She has like 10 kids. I think most of them (probably 6) are living with her in Sydney atm. Some are in Saudi Arabia where they typically live. They are staying in her in-laws house and it's multi-generational.

Anyway they've caught COVID. There must be 15 people living in that house. 2 at this point don't have it.

It's really bad because I'm pretty sure there are highly vulnerable people living there and I'd be surprised if there wasn't a death in the family.
 
my golf club a group one club in a LGA of concern is looking to arrange tee time block bookings with other clubs all over Sydney, members complete survey on where they like and the club will contact golf clubs in there area 5km from home
this shows how the rules are around yet stretched.
Probably time golf stops and bike riding etc stops
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448250) said:
my golf club a group one club in a LGA of concern is looking to arrange tee time block bookings with other clubs all over Sydney, members complete survey on where they like and the club will contact golf clubs in there area 5km from home
this shows how the rules are around yet stretched.
Probably time golf stops and bike riding etc stops

Not sure why golf is allowed, and I enjoy going for a swing but it is not a zero contact activity (multiple people handling flags and carts,) and generally a social game. One person going for a motorcycle ride (not a group ride,) where they don't stop anywhere is not a concern and compliant within the reasonable excuses for exercise and outdoor recreation.
 
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448247) said:
I'll relay a personal story. It's an update.

My SIL say a month ago rang up my wife and stated to catch up in the Eastern Suburbs. She married a Lebanese Muslim and she is now living in Greenacre or Lakemba or something. They are good people.

Anyway she stated "she wasn't putting those chemicals into her body" and was completely fine with traveling from a hot spot to the Eastern Suburbs. My wife said no and told her to get vaccinated twice.

She has like 10 kids. I think most of them (probably 6) are living with her in Sydney atm. Some are in Saudi Arabia where they typically live. They are staying in her in-laws house and it's multi-generational.

Anyway they've caught COVID. There must be 15 people living in that house. 2 at this point don't have it.

It's really bad because I'm pretty sure there are highly vulnerable people living there and I'd be surprised if there wasn't a death in the family.

Might learn the hard way.
Poor kids... What hope do they have with parents with that attitude
See it all the time
 
@hobbo1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448304) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448235) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448216) said:
681 cases

Yeah, the lockdown isn’t going to end anytime soon.

What lockdown?

![images - 2021-08-19T122428.380.jpeg](/assets/uploads/files/1629339922923-images-2021-08-19t122428.380.jpeg)

Good movie.
 
@tiger_one said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448324) said:
@geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448294) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448235) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448216) said:
681 cases

Yeah, the lockdown isn’t going to end anytime soon.

Lockdown lotto..

742 tomorrow..

This is a great game.
Can I gave a go too?
Let's say: 712

Closest to the pin gets a prize..

Willing to donate one of my 56 Wests Tigers hats
 
@geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448332) said:
@tiger_one said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448324) said:
@geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448294) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448235) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448216) said:
681 cases

Yeah, the lockdown isn’t going to end anytime soon.

Lockdown lotto..

742 tomorrow..

This is a great game.
Can I gave a go too?
Let's say: 712

Closest to the pin gets a prize..

Willing to donate one of my 56 Wests Tigers hats

This deserves its own thread - and everyone to join the fun.
 
This sounds like the Monty Python sketch in "Holy Grail" where the death cart is being wheeled around to the shouts of "Bring out your dead".
I could laugh at the movie because of its absurdity but unfortunately this is reality in 2021
 
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