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@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448057) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448010) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447905) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447792) said:
@spartan117 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447774) said:
Quick Question -

Do you guys know if I'm permitted to go for Motorbike ride for my mental health?

You know you cannot. Be safe and stay at home. I'm with you as I want to drive my RX.

Yes he can if he stays in his LGA.

Here are the list of reasonable excuses for leaving home. Of course you can always try to manufacture a reason to leave but staying at home is the safest option.

https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/rules/greater-sydney#reasonable-excuse-to-leave-home

My mate was pulled over by a cop in the Hawkesbury LGA. He lives there and was riding there and the cop said it was fine as he was in his LGA.

If you don't stop anywhere you are no risk of contracting or spreading the virus. No different to exercising.

The fundamental point is that if you are determined to break the 'rules' then unless you bring out even worse deterrents like threatening people at gunpoint, adding additional layers is moot. I do not believe 550 people in the South West, West and Nepean areas of Sydney tested positive by simply doing their groceries. There are obviously people meeting up when they shouldn't be and spreading it.

Gladys can be criticised for many matters, but people making shitty choices is not one of them. No amount of new restrictions will stop them. Self discipline is required but many just don't seem to get it.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448083) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448057) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448010) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447905) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447792) said:
@spartan117 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447774) said:
Quick Question -

Do you guys know if I'm permitted to go for Motorbike ride for my mental health?

You know you cannot. Be safe and stay at home. I'm with you as I want to drive my RX.

Yes he can if he stays in his LGA.

Here are the list of reasonable excuses for leaving home. Of course you can always try to manufacture a reason to leave but staying at home is the safest option.

https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/rules/greater-sydney#reasonable-excuse-to-leave-home

My mate was pulled over by a cop in the Hawkesbury LGA. He lives there and was riding there and the cop said it was fine as he was in his LGA.

If you don't stop anywhere you are no risk of contracting or spreading the virus. No different to exercising.

The fundamental point is that if you are determined to break the 'rules' then unless you bring out even worse deterrents like threatening people at gunpoint, adding additional layers is moot. **I do not believe 550 people in the South West, West and Nepean areas of Sydney tested positive by simply doing their groceries.** There are obviously people meeting up when they shouldn't be and spreading it.

Gladys can be criticised for many matters, but people making shitty choices is not one of them. No amount of new restrictions will stop them. Self discipline is required but many just don't seem to get it.

I don't believe they did either, and it's evident from the significant amount of hotspots that are appearing. For mine telling someone they cannot jump on their motorcycle and go for a quick zero contact spin in their LGA is the same as telling someone they cannot go for a walk. It appears that the NSW Police don't share that view either.

But then again I don't try to equate zero contact activity in line with the rules with people flagrantly breaking rules.
 
@innsaneink said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448054) said:
I don't know Wether my company is still restricted by govt in some ways but today we have one staff, lives Doonside usually works at turramurra sites now allowed to work at Meadowbank, but other staff that usually work meadowbank but live in Berala and Lidcombe and one that works in the city /lives Georges River LGA still cannot work
Company's not transparent and clarifying things some staff stuck at home haven't heard a thing in weeks

The company will try and keep you in the dark as much as possible Ink. They will want everyone to turn up to work an be productive.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448011) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447904) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447712) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447704) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447701) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447689) said:
The priority booking page for young adults aged 16-39 living in an LGA of concern to access Pfizer vaccine has just gone live and can be found here:

https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/health-and-wellbeing/covid-19-vaccination-nsw/priority-covid-19-vaccination-booking-for-16

The majority of people with COVID-19 in NSW are under 40. To reduce the spread of the virus, people aged 16 to 39 living in areas of concern can now access priority vaccination appointments.

People aged 16 to 39 who are residents of the following local government areas and suburbs can access priority vaccination appointments:

Bayside
Blacktown
Burwood
Campbelltown
Canterbury-Bankstown
Cumberland
Fairfield
Georges River
Liverpool
Parramatta
Penrith
Strathfield

That is a good initiative but Pfizer vaccine should be available to all in that age range regardless of where you live.

When it's in limited supply, it should be directed to the areas in most dire need first.



@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447704) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447701) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447689) said:
The priority booking page for young adults aged 16-39 living in an LGA of concern to access Pfizer vaccine has just gone live and can be found here:

https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/health-and-wellbeing/covid-19-vaccination-nsw/priority-covid-19-vaccination-booking-for-16

The majority of people with COVID-19 in NSW are under 40. To reduce the spread of the virus, people aged 16 to 39 living in areas of concern can now access priority vaccination appointments.

People aged 16 to 39 who are residents of the following local government areas and suburbs can access priority vaccination appointments:

Bayside
Blacktown
Burwood
Campbelltown
Canterbury-Bankstown
Cumberland
Fairfield
Georges River
Liverpool
Parramatta
Penrith
Strathfield

That is a good initiative but Pfizer vaccine should be available to all in that age range regardless of where you live.

When it's in limited supply, it should be directed to the areas in most dire need first.

What about construction workers in that age group living outside of high priority areas required to work in Sydney LGA? There 50 to 60 cases reported there yesterday. I classify those workers high priority.

I wouldn't classify construction as absolutely necessary compared to mitigating the spread in the hotspot LGAs. And I work in the construction industry.

The Government does for those living in so-called hotspot areas. A consistent approach for all construction workers should have been implemented.

Getting people jabbed in the hotspots first is a priority. By having people less likely to contract the virus in hotspot areas it mitigates the spread.

If there were more Pfizer jabs available we would not be having this discussion.
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448089) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448083) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448057) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448010) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447905) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447792) said:
@spartan117 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447774) said:
Quick Question -

Do you guys know if I'm permitted to go for Motorbike ride for my mental health?

You know you cannot. Be safe and stay at home. I'm with you as I want to drive my RX.

Yes he can if he stays in his LGA.

Here are the list of reasonable excuses for leaving home. Of course you can always try to manufacture a reason to leave but staying at home is the safest option.

https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/rules/greater-sydney#reasonable-excuse-to-leave-home

My mate was pulled over by a cop in the Hawkesbury LGA. He lives there and was riding there and the cop said it was fine as he was in his LGA.

If you don't stop anywhere you are no risk of contracting or spreading the virus. No different to exercising.

The fundamental point is that if you are determined to break the 'rules' then unless you bring out even worse deterrents like threatening people at gunpoint, adding additional layers is moot. **I do not believe 550 people in the South West, West and Nepean areas of Sydney tested positive by simply doing their groceries.** There are obviously people meeting up when they shouldn't be and spreading it.

Gladys can be criticised for many matters, but people making shitty choices is not one of them. No amount of new restrictions will stop them. Self discipline is required but many just don't seem to get it.

I don't believe they did either, and it's evident from the significant amount of hotspots that are appearing. For mine telling someone they cannot jump on their motorcycle and go for a quick zero contact spin in their LGA is the same as telling someone they cannot go for a walk. It appears that the NSW Police don't share that view either.

But then again I don't try to equate zero contact activity in line with the rules with people flagrantly breaking rules.

Stay home and stay safe. That is the message, It is simple. You obey it or you don't.
 
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447895) said:
What are going to be the reactions from the people who are apparently fighting for our "freedom" when they hear that there will be different restrictions for the vaxxed and non-vaxxed.

"Freedom" is a flimsy concept.

There's no freedom to drive down a street at 200 km/h. .

My neighbour does not have freedom to whack up a 20 story apartment block.

Most laws and rules are developed to allow freedom without impinging on the safety of others.

Most people will get on board.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448093) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448089) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448083) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448057) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448010) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447905) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447792) said:
@spartan117 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447774) said:
Quick Question -

Do you guys know if I'm permitted to go for Motorbike ride for my mental health?

You know you cannot. Be safe and stay at home. I'm with you as I want to drive my RX.

Yes he can if he stays in his LGA.

Here are the list of reasonable excuses for leaving home. Of course you can always try to manufacture a reason to leave but staying at home is the safest option.

https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/rules/greater-sydney#reasonable-excuse-to-leave-home

My mate was pulled over by a cop in the Hawkesbury LGA. He lives there and was riding there and the cop said it was fine as he was in his LGA.

If you don't stop anywhere you are no risk of contracting or spreading the virus. No different to exercising.

The fundamental point is that if you are determined to break the 'rules' then unless you bring out even worse deterrents like threatening people at gunpoint, adding additional layers is moot. **I do not believe 550 people in the South West, West and Nepean areas of Sydney tested positive by simply doing their groceries.** There are obviously people meeting up when they shouldn't be and spreading it.

Gladys can be criticised for many matters, but people making shitty choices is not one of them. No amount of new restrictions will stop them. Self discipline is required but many just don't seem to get it.

I don't believe they did either, and it's evident from the significant amount of hotspots that are appearing. For mine telling someone they cannot jump on their motorcycle and go for a quick zero contact spin in their LGA is the same as telling someone they cannot go for a walk. It appears that the NSW Police don't share that view either.

But then again I don't try to equate zero contact activity in line with the rules with people flagrantly breaking rules.

Stay home and stay safe. That is the message, It is simple. You obey it or you don't.

No that is not the message. Otherwise you would not be allowed to exercise. That's the reason why there are rules in place around exercise. If you locked people in at home altogether with the only exceptions to be able to pick up medication, milk and bread or visit the doctor you would emerge from this with a whole host of people suffering from mental illness.

Do you rouse on people who go for a walk? Because that is the position you apparently hold.
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448097) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448093) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448089) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448083) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448057) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448010) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447905) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447792) said:
@spartan117 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447774) said:
Quick Question -

Do you guys know if I'm permitted to go for Motorbike ride for my mental health?

You know you cannot. Be safe and stay at home. I'm with you as I want to drive my RX.

Yes he can if he stays in his LGA.

Here are the list of reasonable excuses for leaving home. Of course you can always try to manufacture a reason to leave but staying at home is the safest option.

https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/rules/greater-sydney#reasonable-excuse-to-leave-home

My mate was pulled over by a cop in the Hawkesbury LGA. He lives there and was riding there and the cop said it was fine as he was in his LGA.

If you don't stop anywhere you are no risk of contracting or spreading the virus. No different to exercising.

The fundamental point is that if you are determined to break the 'rules' then unless you bring out even worse deterrents like threatening people at gunpoint, adding additional layers is moot. **I do not believe 550 people in the South West, West and Nepean areas of Sydney tested positive by simply doing their groceries.** There are obviously people meeting up when they shouldn't be and spreading it.

Gladys can be criticised for many matters, but people making shitty choices is not one of them. No amount of new restrictions will stop them. Self discipline is required but many just don't seem to get it.

I don't believe they did either, and it's evident from the significant amount of hotspots that are appearing. For mine telling someone they cannot jump on their motorcycle and go for a quick zero contact spin in their LGA is the same as telling someone they cannot go for a walk. It appears that the NSW Police don't share that view either.

But then again I don't try to equate zero contact activity in line with the rules with people flagrantly breaking rules.

Stay home and stay safe. That is the message, It is simple. You obey it or you don't.

Do you rouse on people who go for a walk?

Why is it so difficult to obey the message from Dr Chant?

Why do certain people believe the rules don't apply to them?

i have old cars I love to drive but don't now. Why? Because it is the wrong thing to do.
 
@hugggarz said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447687) said:
Just in case some didn't know, for those under 40 who live in the "hotspot" LGAs in Sydney and have been advised against AZ or just waiting for Pfizer - take advantage of the new priority allocation that opened up today while you can.
@ nsw.gov.au

Got in first thing yesterday morning and got my 18 year old son an appointment at Macquarie Fields for 08:15 this morning. (Thursday 19th August)

Got there early at about 07:40 had his shot and was on the way back to the car park at 08:09 after waiting his 15 minutes for any adverse reactions.

It pays to get an appointment as early in the day as possible and to get there early because it fills up fast.

Only draw back is that 2nd shot appointments for Pfizer have been stretched right out to 8 weeks.
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448097) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448093) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448089) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448083) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448057) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448010) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447905) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447792) said:
@spartan117 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447774) said:
Quick Question -

Do you guys know if I'm permitted to go for Motorbike ride for my mental health?

You know you cannot. Be safe and stay at home. I'm with you as I want to drive my RX.

Yes he can if he stays in his LGA.

Here are the list of reasonable excuses for leaving home. Of course you can always try to manufacture a reason to leave but staying at home is the safest option.

https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/rules/greater-sydney#reasonable-excuse-to-leave-home

My mate was pulled over by a cop in the Hawkesbury LGA. He lives there and was riding there and the cop said it was fine as he was in his LGA.

If you don't stop anywhere you are no risk of contracting or spreading the virus. No different to exercising.

The fundamental point is that if you are determined to break the 'rules' then unless you bring out even worse deterrents like threatening people at gunpoint, adding additional layers is moot. **I do not believe 550 people in the South West, West and Nepean areas of Sydney tested positive by simply doing their groceries.** There are obviously people meeting up when they shouldn't be and spreading it.

Gladys can be criticised for many matters, but people making shitty choices is not one of them. No amount of new restrictions will stop them. Self discipline is required but many just don't seem to get it.

I don't believe they did either, and it's evident from the significant amount of hotspots that are appearing. For mine telling someone they cannot jump on their motorcycle and go for a quick zero contact spin in their LGA is the same as telling someone they cannot go for a walk. It appears that the NSW Police don't share that view either.

But then again I don't try to equate zero contact activity in line with the rules with people flagrantly breaking rules.

Stay home and stay safe. That is the message, It is simple. You obey it or you don't.

No that is not the message. Otherwise you would not be allowed to exercise. That's the reason why there are rules in place around exercise. If you locked people in at home altogether with the only exceptions to be able to pick up medication, milk and bread or visit the doctor you would emerge from this with a whole host of people suffering from mental illness.

Do you rouse on people who go for a walk? Because that is the position you apparently hold.

I must have imagined what Dr Chant advised yesterday. The was a clip this morning of the Premier with the same advice.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448100) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448097) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448093) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448089) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448083) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448057) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448010) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447905) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447792) said:
@spartan117 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447774) said:
Quick Question -

Do you guys know if I'm permitted to go for Motorbike ride for my mental health?

You know you cannot. Be safe and stay at home. I'm with you as I want to drive my RX.

Yes he can if he stays in his LGA.

Here are the list of reasonable excuses for leaving home. Of course you can always try to manufacture a reason to leave but staying at home is the safest option.

https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/rules/greater-sydney#reasonable-excuse-to-leave-home

My mate was pulled over by a cop in the Hawkesbury LGA. He lives there and was riding there and the cop said it was fine as he was in his LGA.

If you don't stop anywhere you are no risk of contracting or spreading the virus. No different to exercising.

The fundamental point is that if you are determined to break the 'rules' then unless you bring out even worse deterrents like threatening people at gunpoint, adding additional layers is moot. **I do not believe 550 people in the South West, West and Nepean areas of Sydney tested positive by simply doing their groceries.** There are obviously people meeting up when they shouldn't be and spreading it.

Gladys can be criticised for many matters, but people making shitty choices is not one of them. No amount of new restrictions will stop them. Self discipline is required but many just don't seem to get it.

I don't believe they did either, and it's evident from the significant amount of hotspots that are appearing. For mine telling someone they cannot jump on their motorcycle and go for a quick zero contact spin in their LGA is the same as telling someone they cannot go for a walk. It appears that the NSW Police don't share that view either.

But then again I don't try to equate zero contact activity in line with the rules with people flagrantly breaking rules.

Stay home and stay safe. That is the message, It is simple. You obey it or you don't.

Do you rouse on people who go for a walk?

Why is it so difficult to obey the message from Dr Chant?

Why do certain people believe the rules don't apply to them?

i have old cars I love to drive but don't now. Why? Because it is the wrong thing to do.

Don't sidestep the question. Do you believe it is wrong for people to go for a walk when it is well within the rules? Rules devised by a government that have gradually tightened them up and this is one constant that remains.

Do you believe it is wrong for people to stretch their legs and get some fresh air and sun and engage in a zero contact activity as long as they are compliant with the rules set?

There are a lot of people with mental illness who have been stripped of their support networks who would not cope with being told they could not go for a walk. I am one of them.
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448089) said:
But then again I don’t try to equate zero contact activity in line with the rules with people flagrantly breaking rules.

I think people don't get it but I also think it's way too easy to point fingers and state look at the grubby scum.

There is an education problem which is made worse by the huge amount of disinformation. There are poorer migrant communities who are a bit more isolated from society. Some people need the money. There are larger households. There are young kids who just feel they have to go out. I have a 17 yo son and he has no idea what we are going through. He just isn't interested.

You will get people flagrantly braking the rules and believing the disinformation but I think the number of people in these groups is really low.

I also think it really sucks but the poor tend to cop it worse.
 
From the NSW Government website:

**You must stay home. Only leave your home if you have a reasonable excuse.**

If you must leave home, stay within your local area. Do not travel outside your local area if you can avoid it.

Limit your physical contact with people you do not live with. See the restrictions for visitors to a residence.

You must carry a face mask with you at all times and wear a face mask when required when you leave your home in Greater Sydney including the Blue Mountains, Central Coast, Wollongong and Shellharbour.

**Reasonable excuse to leave home**

A reasonable excuse is if you need to

*obtain food or other goods and services*
- for the personal needs of the household or for other household purposes (including pets)
- for vulnerable people
- only one person per household may leave the home to obtain food or other goods and services each day (you may take a dependent person with you if that person cannot be left at home on their own).

*leave home to go to work if*
- you cannot reasonably work from home and
- the business is allowed to be open and
- you comply with relevant rules for COVID-19 tests for Sydney workers.

*leave home for education if it is not possible to do it at home*

*exercise and take outdoor recreation within your local government area or, if you need to cross into another local government area, stay within 5km of your home*

*go out for medical or caring reasons, including obtaining a COVID-19 vaccination.*
 
I only leave home to collect my shopping (direct to boot,) which I do online. I am the only one who leaves the house.

I work from home.

I homeschool my son.

I exercise by taking walks around the local lake or going for a bushwalk.

I have only left home for an annual cardiologists appointment and to drive my wife to a pregnancy ultrasound appointment, which I could not attend so I sat in the car.

Pray tell, am I doing the wrong thing @pawsandclaws1 ?
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448112) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448100) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448097) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448093) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448089) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448083) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448057) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448010) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447905) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447792) said:
@spartan117 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1447774) said:
Quick Question -

Do you guys know if I'm permitted to go for Motorbike ride for my mental health?

You know you cannot. Be safe and stay at home. I'm with you as I want to drive my RX.

Yes he can if he stays in his LGA.

Here are the list of reasonable excuses for leaving home. Of course you can always try to manufacture a reason to leave but staying at home is the safest option.

https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/rules/greater-sydney#reasonable-excuse-to-leave-home

My mate was pulled over by a cop in the Hawkesbury LGA. He lives there and was riding there and the cop said it was fine as he was in his LGA.

If you don't stop anywhere you are no risk of contracting or spreading the virus. No different to exercising.

The fundamental point is that if you are determined to break the 'rules' then unless you bring out even worse deterrents like threatening people at gunpoint, adding additional layers is moot. **I do not believe 550 people in the South West, West and Nepean areas of Sydney tested positive by simply doing their groceries.** There are obviously people meeting up when they shouldn't be and spreading it.

Gladys can be criticised for many matters, but people making shitty choices is not one of them. No amount of new restrictions will stop them. Self discipline is required but many just don't seem to get it.

I don't believe they did either, and it's evident from the significant amount of hotspots that are appearing. For mine telling someone they cannot jump on their motorcycle and go for a quick zero contact spin in their LGA is the same as telling someone they cannot go for a walk. It appears that the NSW Police don't share that view either.

But then again I don't try to equate zero contact activity in line with the rules with people flagrantly breaking rules.

Stay home and stay safe. That is the message, It is simple. You obey it or you don't.

Do you rouse on people who go for a walk?

Why is it so difficult to obey the message from Dr Chant?

Why do certain people believe the rules don't apply to them?

i have old cars I love to drive but don't now. Why? Because it is the wrong thing to do.

Don't sidestep the question. Do you believe it is wrong for people to go for a walk when it is well within the rules? Rules devised by a government that have gradually tightened them up and this is one constant that remains.

Do you believe it is wrong for people to stretch their legs and get some fresh air and sun and engage in a zero contact activity as long as they are compliant with the rules set?

There are a lot of people with mental illness who have been stripped of their support networks who would not cope with being told they could not go for a walk. I am one of them.

I posted a link to the NSW site (much earlier) which includes valid reasons to be out of the home.

Your issue was about joy riding on a motorcycle, not exercising or visits to vulnerable residents so please spare me the bs.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1448120) said:
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Quick Question -

Do you guys know if I'm permitted to go for Motorbike ride for my mental health?

You know you cannot. Be safe and stay at home. I'm with you as I want to drive my RX.

Yes he can if he stays in his LGA.

Here are the list of reasonable excuses for leaving home. Of course you can always try to manufacture a reason to leave but staying at home is the safest option.

https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/rules/greater-sydney#reasonable-excuse-to-leave-home

My mate was pulled over by a cop in the Hawkesbury LGA. He lives there and was riding there and the cop said it was fine as he was in his LGA.

If you don't stop anywhere you are no risk of contracting or spreading the virus. No different to exercising.

The fundamental point is that if you are determined to break the 'rules' then unless you bring out even worse deterrents like threatening people at gunpoint, adding additional layers is moot. **I do not believe 550 people in the South West, West and Nepean areas of Sydney tested positive by simply doing their groceries.** There are obviously people meeting up when they shouldn't be and spreading it.

Gladys can be criticised for many matters, but people making shitty choices is not one of them. No amount of new restrictions will stop them. Self discipline is required but many just don't seem to get it.

I don't believe they did either, and it's evident from the significant amount of hotspots that are appearing. For mine telling someone they cannot jump on their motorcycle and go for a quick zero contact spin in their LGA is the same as telling someone they cannot go for a walk. It appears that the NSW Police don't share that view either.

But then again I don't try to equate zero contact activity in line with the rules with people flagrantly breaking rules.

Stay home and stay safe. That is the message, It is simple. You obey it or you don't.

Do you rouse on people who go for a walk?

Why is it so difficult to obey the message from Dr Chant?

Why do certain people believe the rules don't apply to them?

i have old cars I love to drive but don't now. Why? Because it is the wrong thing to do.

Don't sidestep the question. Do you believe it is wrong for people to go for a walk when it is well within the rules? Rules devised by a government that have gradually tightened them up and this is one constant that remains.

Do you believe it is wrong for people to stretch their legs and get some fresh air and sun and engage in a zero contact activity as long as they are compliant with the rules set?

There are a lot of people with mental illness who have been stripped of their support networks who would not cope with being told they could not go for a walk. I am one of them.

I posted a link to the NSW site (much earlier) which includes valid reasons to be out of the home.

Your issue was about joy riding on a motorcycle, not exercising or visits to vulnerable residents so please spare me the bs.

I equate that to exercise. Have you never ridden a motorcycle? And that would also fall under outdoor recreation if you really want to get into semantics.

It appears at least one member of NSW Police shares that view, and they have been fining people for the slightest of infringements.
 
My sons don't visit their dying mother because the risk of either bringing Covid into her place of residence or catching it themselves is too great.

We can chose to act in accordance with the spirit of NSW Covid restrictions are we can choose not too.

There will be plenty of time to ride motorcycles later.
 
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