Coronavirus Outbreak

[pawsandclaws1]

Stunning news in Vic that 95% of all cases of Covid19 in aged care has occurred in private aged care facilities. The Commonwealth has asked for Vic help and RNs are being redeployed to private aged care facilities. Vic Govt hospitals to assist. Most non urgent elective surgery is cancelled. Vic Health Minister. n tears at oress conf. ADF nurses deployed to assist.

700 active Covid cases in private aged care in Vic. 5 cases in Vic Govt run aged care. So many will die which is tragic.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Listening to a representative of the aged care providers earlier and couldn't believe that there are still allowing some staff to work at up three centres. This is particularly unacceptable during a pandemic and should have been stopped months ago!

As I wrote weeks back, no great problem with previous policies from much earlier in the response both here and elsewhere, but the industry and governments should have learnt better lessons from the Newmarch disaster, along with other homes.

I can’t really blame the casual worker for working at multiple sites to make a living. It’s the systematic casualisation of the workforce that has come back to bite us in the Pandemic. It needs a major re-think.

Certainly does and months into this pandemic it is time to be getting angry about it in relation to aged care. This is not a matter of individual wrongdoings, rather a federal policy area. Mistakes resulting in unnecessary deaths have already long been made and they should have learnt from them, so no excuses from now on.

 

[jadtiger]

Listening to a representative of the aged care providers earlier and couldn't believe that there are still allowing some staff to work at up three centres. This is particularly unacceptable during a pandemic and should have been stopped months ago!

As I wrote weeks back, no great problem with previous policies from much earlier in the response both here and elsewhere, but the industry and governments should have learnt better lessons from the Newmarch disaster, along with other homes.

I can’t really blame the casual worker for working at multiple sites to make a living. It’s the systematic casualisation of the workforce that has come back to bite us in the Pandemic. It needs a major re-think.

Certainly does and months into this pandemic it is time to be getting angry about it in relation to aged care. This is not a matter of individual wrongdoings, rather a federal policy area. Mistakes resulting in unnecessary deaths have already long been made and they should have learnt from them, so no excuses from now on.

I agree with you but good luck in getting this federal government to make positive changes to their IR policies

 

[pawsandclaws1]

2 Covid19 cases in Qld today from two women returning from Melbourne via Sydney. They have been back in Qld 8 days mixing with the community while unwell. At least one school and shopping centre are closed. As they will discover, it will have been passed on in the community. Irresponsible as I thought as per NSW they had to isolate for 14 days?

 

[cochise]

2 Covid19 cases in Qld today from two women returning from Melbourne via Sydney. They have been back in Qld 8 days mixing with the community while unwell. At least one school and shopping centre are closed. As they will discover, it will have been passed on in the community. Irresponsible as I thought as per NSW they had to isolate for 14 days?

They are required to enter hotel quarantine if returning from Melbourne, they lied about being in Melbourne to avoid quarantine. One of the women is a cleaner in a school which has led to the school being closed. Just terrible and irresponsible behaviour.

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

Clive taking WA Govt to court over shutting borders. I don’t.agree with the way WA went about this but do agree Clive needs to go into mandatory quarantine indefinitely.



A tour of Siberia between November and March would be good for him

I understand that people get the most of it if they walk!:grinning:

 

[Papacito]

2 Covid19 cases in Qld today from two women returning from Melbourne via Sydney. They have been back in Qld 8 days mixing with the community while unwell. At least one school and shopping centre are closed. As they will discover, it will have been passed on in the community. Irresponsible as I thought as per NSW they had to isolate for 14 days?

They are required to enter hotel quarantine if returning from Melbourne, they lied about being in Melbourne to avoid quarantine. One of the women is a cleaner in a school which has led to the school being closed. Just terrible and irresponsible behaviour.

Irresponsible? yes. Surprising? no.

I can't imagine too many cleaners can take two weeks off work and stump up the $2800 quarantine fee.

 

[cochise]

2 Covid19 cases in Qld today from two women returning from Melbourne via Sydney. They have been back in Qld 8 days mixing with the community while unwell. At least one school and shopping centre are closed. As they will discover, it will have been passed on in the community. Irresponsible as I thought as per NSW they had to isolate for 14 days?

They are required to enter hotel quarantine if returning from Melbourne, they lied about being in Melbourne to avoid quarantine. One of the women is a cleaner in a school which has led to the school being closed. Just terrible and irresponsible behaviour.

Irresponsible? yes. Surprising? no.

I can't imagine too many cleaners can take two weeks off work and stump up the $2800 quarantine fee.

So yeah lie about it then.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

2 Covid19 cases in Qld today from two women returning from Melbourne via Sydney. They have been back in Qld 8 days mixing with the community while unwell. At least one school and shopping centre are closed. As they will discover, it will have been passed on in the community. Irresponsible as I thought as per NSW they had to isolate for 14 days?

They are required to enter hotel quarantine if returning from Melbourne, they lied about being in Melbourne to avoid quarantine. One of the women is a cleaner in a school which has led to the school being closed. Just terrible and irresponsible behaviour.

Payment of quarantine fees is a short sighted approach. Very poor behaviour which will have serious imoacts on Qld.

 

[cochise]

2 Covid19 cases in Qld today from two women returning from Melbourne via Sydney. They have been back in Qld 8 days mixing with the community while unwell. At least one school and shopping centre are closed. As they will discover, it will have been passed on in the community. Irresponsible as I thought as per NSW they had to isolate for 14 days?

They are required to enter hotel quarantine if returning from Melbourne, they lied about being in Melbourne to avoid quarantine. One of the women is a cleaner in a school which has led to the school being closed. Just terrible and irresponsible behaviour.

Payment of quarantine fees is a short sighted approach. Very poor behaviour which will have serious imoacts on Qld.

If I was QLD I would be paying for residents of the state to quarantine if they left the state before these outbreaks occurred. Anyone who left after the outbreaks and border rules came into effect I would make pay for their own quarantine.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

with qld closing borders to sydney maybe the three qld teams and Melbourne need to come into nsw to play

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

2 Covid19 cases in Qld today from two women returning from Melbourne via Sydney. They have been back in Qld 8 days mixing with the community while unwell. At least one school and shopping centre are closed. As they will discover, it will have been passed on in the community. Irresponsible as I thought as per NSW they had to isolate for 14 days?

They are required to enter hotel quarantine if returning from Melbourne, they lied about being in Melbourne to avoid quarantine. One of the women is a cleaner in a school which has led to the school being closed. Just terrible and irresponsible behaviour.

Payment of quarantine fees is a short sighted approach. Very poor behaviour which will have serious imoacts on Qld.

If I was QLD I would be paying for residents of the state to quarantine if they left the state before these outbreaks occurred. Anyone who left after the outbreaks and border rules came into effect I would make pay for their own quarantine.

I wouldn't, because people will not return and go into quarantine, thus putting the community at risk.

 

[cochise]

2 Covid19 cases in Qld today from two women returning from Melbourne via Sydney. They have been back in Qld 8 days mixing with the community while unwell. At least one school and shopping centre are closed. As they will discover, it will have been passed on in the community. Irresponsible as I thought as per NSW they had to isolate for 14 days?

They are required to enter hotel quarantine if returning from Melbourne, they lied about being in Melbourne to avoid quarantine. One of the women is a cleaner in a school which has led to the school being closed. Just terrible and irresponsible behaviour.

Payment of quarantine fees is a short sighted approach. Very poor behaviour which will have serious imoacts on Qld.

If I was QLD I would be paying for residents of the state to quarantine if they left the state before these outbreaks occurred. Anyone who left after the outbreaks and border rules came into effect I would make pay for their own quarantine.

I wouldn't, because people will not return and go into quarantine, thus putting the community at risk.

So you would prefer them to pay for all returning residents?

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

QLD closing borders to people from Sydney starting Saturday 1am.

 

[cochise]

QLD closing borders to people from Sydney starting Saturday 1am.

Smart move, but it seems their own returned travelers are the bigger problem.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

2 Covid19 cases in Qld today from two women returning from Melbourne via Sydney. They have been back in Qld 8 days mixing with the community while unwell. At least one school and shopping centre are closed. As they will discover, it will have been passed on in the community. Irresponsible as I thought as per NSW they had to isolate for 14 days?

They are required to enter hotel quarantine if returning from Melbourne, they lied about being in Melbourne to avoid quarantine. One of the women is a cleaner in a school which has led to the school being closed. Just terrible and irresponsible behaviour.

Payment of quarantine fees is a short sighted approach. Very poor behaviour which will have serious imoacts on Qld.

If I was QLD I would be paying for residents of the state to quarantine if they left the state before these outbreaks occurred. Anyone who left after the outbreaks and border rules came into effect I would make pay for their own quarantine.

I wouldn't, because people will not return and go into quarantine, thus putting the community at risk.

So you would prefer them to pay for all returning residents?

If they were interstate and then the QLD government enacted border closures, why should they have to pay on their return?

People will not stump it up and they'll just go about their business, resulting potentially infected spreading to the community. I'm safely betting the quarantine costs do not exceed the continued damage this does to the economy and health system.

 

[cochise]

2 Covid19 cases in Qld today from two women returning from Melbourne via Sydney. They have been back in Qld 8 days mixing with the community while unwell. At least one school and shopping centre are closed. As they will discover, it will have been passed on in the community. Irresponsible as I thought as per NSW they had to isolate for 14 days?

They are required to enter hotel quarantine if returning from Melbourne, they lied about being in Melbourne to avoid quarantine. One of the women is a cleaner in a school which has led to the school being closed. Just terrible and irresponsible behaviour.

Payment of quarantine fees is a short sighted approach. Very poor behaviour which will have serious imoacts on Qld.

If I was QLD I would be paying for residents of the state to quarantine if they left the state before these outbreaks occurred. Anyone who left after the outbreaks and border rules came into effect I would make pay for their own quarantine.

I wouldn't, because people will not return and go into quarantine, thus putting the community at risk.

So you would prefer them to pay for all returning residents?

If they were interstate and then the QLD government enacted border closures, why should they have to pay on their return?

People will not stump it up and they'll just go about their business, resulting potentially infected spreading to the community. I'm safely betting the quarantine costs do not exceed the continued damage this does to the economy and health system.

That is what I said?

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

2 Covid19 cases in Qld today from two women returning from Melbourne via Sydney. They have been back in Qld 8 days mixing with the community while unwell. At least one school and shopping centre are closed. As they will discover, it will have been passed on in the community. Irresponsible as I thought as per NSW they had to isolate for 14 days?

They are required to enter hotel quarantine if returning from Melbourne, they lied about being in Melbourne to avoid quarantine. One of the women is a cleaner in a school which has led to the school being closed. Just terrible and irresponsible behaviour.

Payment of quarantine fees is a short sighted approach. Very poor behaviour which will have serious imoacts on Qld.

If I was QLD I would be paying for residents of the state to quarantine if they left the state before these outbreaks occurred. Anyone who left after the outbreaks and border rules came into effect I would make pay for their own quarantine.

I wouldn't, because people will not return and go into quarantine, thus putting the community at risk.

So you would prefer them to pay for all returning residents?

If they were interstate and then the QLD government enacted border closures, why should they have to pay on their return?

People will not stump it up and they'll just go about their business, resulting potentially infected spreading to the community. I'm safely betting the quarantine costs do not exceed the continued damage this does to the economy and health system.

That is what I said?

Oh sorry, I read it as if they were interstate and returned after the border closure well they should have to stump up. I think in the interests of public safety they should just do it for all returned residents anyway though.

 

[cochise]

2 Covid19 cases in Qld today from two women returning from Melbourne via Sydney. They have been back in Qld 8 days mixing with the community while unwell. At least one school and shopping centre are closed. As they will discover, it will have been passed on in the community. Irresponsible as I thought as per NSW they had to isolate for 14 days?

They are required to enter hotel quarantine if returning from Melbourne, they lied about being in Melbourne to avoid quarantine. One of the women is a cleaner in a school which has led to the school being closed. Just terrible and irresponsible behaviour.

Payment of quarantine fees is a short sighted approach. Very poor behaviour which will have serious imoacts on Qld.

If I was QLD I would be paying for residents of the state to quarantine if they left the state before these outbreaks occurred. Anyone who left after the outbreaks and border rules came into effect I would make pay for their own quarantine.

I wouldn't, because people will not return and go into quarantine, thus putting the community at risk.

So you would prefer them to pay for all returning residents?

If they were interstate and then the QLD government enacted border closures, why should they have to pay on their return?

People will not stump it up and they'll just go about their business, resulting potentially infected spreading to the community. I'm safely betting the quarantine costs do not exceed the continued damage this does to the economy and health system.

That is what I said?

Oh sorry I read it as if they were interstate and returned after the border closure well they should have to stump up.

I may have worded it poorly, but what I meant was if they were interstate when the border rules changed then I think the government should pay for the quarantine costs. If they leave after the rules come into effect then they really need to budget for the quarantine.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

with qld closing borders to sydney maybe the three qld teams and Melbourne need to come into nsw to play

Too late. I would speculate the 2 cases today are the start of the ongoing battle.

Just me but Vic and NSW need all their GST revenue now to fight off covid. If the smaller States lock the borders, then the GST revenue sharing should be scrapped for now.