Coronavirus Outbreak

[TheDaBoss]

Heard that they were gonna trial overseas flights soon...to england i think

 

[Tiger5150]

A VERY long and not easy listen, but I genuinely implore everyone to listen to/watch this podcast. Incredibly important information regarding Covid, vaccines and treatments. Not conspiracy theories, not Qanon, not crackpots. Two PHD's and one researcher, including the inventor of mRNA vaccine technology. Very troubling, but very important information.

A teaser....CDC compiled records within VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Recording System) show more people have died of Covid vaccines than all vaccines combined in the last 30 years. Many other serious adverse reactions. Sounds like conspiratorial rubbish, but official data.

Watch the video, look at the data yourself.

https://youtu.be/-_NNTVJzqtY

https://trialsitenews.com/should-you-get-vaccinated/

https://www.rwmalonemd.com/mrna-vaccine-inventor

 

[Tiger_Fanatic3]

Heard that they were gonna trial overseas flights soon...to england i think

A 'pilot program' to begin in August would unlock international travel and provide further inducement to speed up vaccinations. Unfortunately it will be a while before flights resumes overseas.

 

[Meganata]

These outbreaks are going to just go on and on until they stop the planes.

I’ve got a pretty strong opinion that we need to set a deadline to return home from abroad. The bandaid effect of slowly allowing people to return is crazy.

There’s military capability to set final flights home from each country in the world. Return travellers “stuck” overseas should have an option to contact the embassy, sign up for a final return flight and be able to ship out. Otherwise, enjoy your travels and we hope the country you’re travelling in can manage the virus effectively.

I’ve got family and friends struggling to keep their businesses and jobs afloat because of this virus and I just find it astonishing that we are just continually letting this virus and its variants back in time and time again with the every possible chance of major breakouts and potential loss of life.

When is enough enough? Can anyone actually see an end to this without virtually complete border closure?

Every new breakout is a heavier burden on the economy and risk to everything we’ve all worked so hard to prevent.

I know it goes against popular opinion but I am not a fan of stopping Australians from returning home.

Is it stopping them if they have a chance to return home but don’t?

Yes

I guess we’d have to disagree on that. If they’re provided with an opportunity to get a flight home, but take on the risk of staying and travelling that’s on them in my opinion.

I get why people feel like that and had times I have gone close to agreeing with you. The issue I have is that is not the Australia I am proud of, we look after each other even when we make mistakes. I don't believe in telling people they can not come home regardless of the mistakes they have made.

I can respect that. I’m just so frustrated by the constant return of lockdown and restrictions. It just seems so unnecessary.

Me and another 80 blokes were made redundant last year due to the situation in Victoria. I was lucky to find work straight away. The fact that people are still overseas on a holiday, only returning when it hits the fan in that country frustrates the life out of me.

I would never turn an Aussie away, don’t get me wrong, but if they willingly stay after a deadline then a line in the sand has to be drawn for the sake of our own economy, health and general safety.

Otherwise, and as I see occurring time and time again, until every single traveller has returned from overseas, there’s an imminent threat of another break out nationally. If we get it wrong once it’s here and luckily have avoided so far it could be catastrophic.

People aren't just on holiday. There's people overseas on employment and looking after family etc. I do understand the viewpoint that if people haven't come home already unless absolutely necessary (i.e. caring for family or employment,) then they run the risk. It is an absolutely reasonable view to hold.

That all being said however, I am of the view that Australians hold a small blue document that should entitle them to right of return at any time of their choosing. I am vehemently opposed to Australia closing it's doors to any Australian citizen.

As a footnote, I am sorry to hear you and you colleagues lost your jobs. It is good to hear you were able to find employment, I hope that your colleagues are as fortunate.

CB, there are people over there still on holiday. I’ve got mates still over there doing exactly that. I personally blame the government for not providing opportunities for a faster and safer way home.

If Australia all but is clear in a year and a single person comes back positive and gets into the public, we’re back at square one again.

People seem to forget that people in employment and caring after family here are still being put through the ringer time and time again because of the return travellers. They can’t pay their bills or feed their family with each lockdown that comes through. So it’s not just the people overseas working who are put out.

If the minority need to come back and find alternative employment then so be it. The job loss that occurs at each lockdown far outweighs the minority working overseas.

If people have to care for family well maybe they have to stay and ride it out in that country or find support systems in the respective country to care for the family.

I’m not trying to come across as heartless, please don’t take my comments the wrong way. I want the best for Aussies too. I look at it from the perspective of, would I be angry if a return traveller caused someone in my family to be sick, or potentially die, very much so. Is another’s employment or holiday more important then the lives we all care about? Absolutely not.

So in my opinion it becomes a black and white answer of get them home ASAP or lock them out until it’s over. It’s completely the individuals decision, but a harsh reality given the global situation.

Yeah I can see that argument but it just goes against my belief that we shouldn't lock Australians out.

Goes against my belief that stupidity should be rewarded ...anyone who has left the country post Covid must understand the risks involved ...

I have no problem with that stance mate

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/06/14/covid-19-vaccine-mistake.aspx?ui=88138795d76b21e39628d2cc85b02d57ca6b9181440cf0c220400dce37dd43ba&sd=19000101&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20210614&mid=DM903835&rid=1182615764&p4=20210531&p5=


Have a read

 

[Yossarian]

These outbreaks are going to just go on and on until they stop the planes.

I’ve got a pretty strong opinion that we need to set a deadline to return home from abroad. The bandaid effect of slowly allowing people to return is crazy.

There’s military capability to set final flights home from each country in the world. Return travellers “stuck” overseas should have an option to contact the embassy, sign up for a final return flight and be able to ship out. Otherwise, enjoy your travels and we hope the country you’re travelling in can manage the virus effectively.

I’ve got family and friends struggling to keep their businesses and jobs afloat because of this virus and I just find it astonishing that we are just continually letting this virus and its variants back in time and time again with the every possible chance of major breakouts and potential loss of life.

When is enough enough? Can anyone actually see an end to this without virtually complete border closure?

Every new breakout is a heavier burden on the economy and risk to everything we’ve all worked so hard to prevent.

I know it goes against popular opinion but I am not a fan of stopping Australians from returning home.

Is it stopping them if they have a chance to return home but don’t?

Yes

I guess we’d have to disagree on that. If they’re provided with an opportunity to get a flight home, but take on the risk of staying and travelling that’s on them in my opinion.

I get why people feel like that and had times I have gone close to agreeing with you. The issue I have is that is not the Australia I am proud of, we look after each other even when we make mistakes. I don't believe in telling people they can not come home regardless of the mistakes they have made.

I can respect that. I’m just so frustrated by the constant return of lockdown and restrictions. It just seems so unnecessary.

Me and another 80 blokes were made redundant last year due to the situation in Victoria. I was lucky to find work straight away. The fact that people are still overseas on a holiday, only returning when it hits the fan in that country frustrates the life out of me.

I would never turn an Aussie away, don’t get me wrong, but if they willingly stay after a deadline then a line in the sand has to be drawn for the sake of our own economy, health and general safety.

Otherwise, and as I see occurring time and time again, until every single traveller has returned from overseas, there’s an imminent threat of another break out nationally. If we get it wrong once it’s here and luckily have avoided so far it could be catastrophic.

People aren't just on holiday. There's people overseas on employment and looking after family etc. I do understand the viewpoint that if people haven't come home already unless absolutely necessary (i.e. caring for family or employment,) then they run the risk. It is an absolutely reasonable view to hold.

That all being said however, I am of the view that Australians hold a small blue document that should entitle them to right of return at any time of their choosing. I am vehemently opposed to Australia closing it's doors to any Australian citizen.

As a footnote, I am sorry to hear you and you colleagues lost your jobs. It is good to hear you were able to find employment, I hope that your colleagues are as fortunate.

CB, there are people over there still on holiday. I’ve got mates still over there doing exactly that. I personally blame the government for not providing opportunities for a faster and safer way home.

If Australia all but is clear in a year and a single person comes back positive and gets into the public, we’re back at square one again.

People seem to forget that people in employment and caring after family here are still being put through the ringer time and time again because of the return travellers. They can’t pay their bills or feed their family with each lockdown that comes through. So it’s not just the people overseas working who are put out.

If the minority need to come back and find alternative employment then so be it. The job loss that occurs at each lockdown far outweighs the minority working overseas.

If people have to care for family well maybe they have to stay and ride it out in that country or find support systems in the respective country to care for the family.

I’m not trying to come across as heartless, please don’t take my comments the wrong way. I want the best for Aussies too. I look at it from the perspective of, would I be angry if a return traveller caused someone in my family to be sick, or potentially die, very much so. Is another’s employment or holiday more important then the lives we all care about? Absolutely not.

So in my opinion it becomes a black and white answer of get them home ASAP or lock them out until it’s over. It’s completely the individuals decision, but a harsh reality given the global situation.

Yeah I can see that argument but it just goes against my belief that we shouldn't lock Australians out.

Goes against my belief that stupidity should be rewarded ...anyone who has left the country post Covid must understand the risks involved ...

I have no problem with that stance mate

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/06/14/covid-19-vaccine-mistake.aspx?ui=88138795d76b21e39628d2cc85b02d57ca6b9181440cf0c220400dce37dd43ba&sd=19000101&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20210614&mid=DM903835&rid=1182615764&p4=20210531&p5=


Have a read

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/byram-bridles-claim-that-covid-19-vaccines-are-toxic-fails-to-account-for-key-differences-between-the-spike-protein-produced-during-infection-and-vaccination-misrepresents-studies/

 

[cochise]

These outbreaks are going to just go on and on until they stop the planes.

I’ve got a pretty strong opinion that we need to set a deadline to return home from abroad. The bandaid effect of slowly allowing people to return is crazy.

There’s military capability to set final flights home from each country in the world. Return travellers “stuck” overseas should have an option to contact the embassy, sign up for a final return flight and be able to ship out. Otherwise, enjoy your travels and we hope the country you’re travelling in can manage the virus effectively.

I’ve got family and friends struggling to keep their businesses and jobs afloat because of this virus and I just find it astonishing that we are just continually letting this virus and its variants back in time and time again with the every possible chance of major breakouts and potential loss of life.

When is enough enough? Can anyone actually see an end to this without virtually complete border closure?

Every new breakout is a heavier burden on the economy and risk to everything we’ve all worked so hard to prevent.

I know it goes against popular opinion but I am not a fan of stopping Australians from returning home.

Is it stopping them if they have a chance to return home but don’t?

Yes

I guess we’d have to disagree on that. If they’re provided with an opportunity to get a flight home, but take on the risk of staying and travelling that’s on them in my opinion.

I get why people feel like that and had times I have gone close to agreeing with you. The issue I have is that is not the Australia I am proud of, we look after each other even when we make mistakes. I don't believe in telling people they can not come home regardless of the mistakes they have made.

I can respect that. I’m just so frustrated by the constant return of lockdown and restrictions. It just seems so unnecessary.

Me and another 80 blokes were made redundant last year due to the situation in Victoria. I was lucky to find work straight away. The fact that people are still overseas on a holiday, only returning when it hits the fan in that country frustrates the life out of me.

I would never turn an Aussie away, don’t get me wrong, but if they willingly stay after a deadline then a line in the sand has to be drawn for the sake of our own economy, health and general safety.

Otherwise, and as I see occurring time and time again, until every single traveller has returned from overseas, there’s an imminent threat of another break out nationally. If we get it wrong once it’s here and luckily have avoided so far it could be catastrophic.

People aren't just on holiday. There's people overseas on employment and looking after family etc. I do understand the viewpoint that if people haven't come home already unless absolutely necessary (i.e. caring for family or employment,) then they run the risk. It is an absolutely reasonable view to hold.

That all being said however, I am of the view that Australians hold a small blue document that should entitle them to right of return at any time of their choosing. I am vehemently opposed to Australia closing it's doors to any Australian citizen.

As a footnote, I am sorry to hear you and you colleagues lost your jobs. It is good to hear you were able to find employment, I hope that your colleagues are as fortunate.

CB, there are people over there still on holiday. I’ve got mates still over there doing exactly that. I personally blame the government for not providing opportunities for a faster and safer way home.

If Australia all but is clear in a year and a single person comes back positive and gets into the public, we’re back at square one again.

People seem to forget that people in employment and caring after family here are still being put through the ringer time and time again because of the return travellers. They can’t pay their bills or feed their family with each lockdown that comes through. So it’s not just the people overseas working who are put out.

If the minority need to come back and find alternative employment then so be it. The job loss that occurs at each lockdown far outweighs the minority working overseas.

If people have to care for family well maybe they have to stay and ride it out in that country or find support systems in the respective country to care for the family.

I’m not trying to come across as heartless, please don’t take my comments the wrong way. I want the best for Aussies too. I look at it from the perspective of, would I be angry if a return traveller caused someone in my family to be sick, or potentially die, very much so. Is another’s employment or holiday more important then the lives we all care about? Absolutely not.

So in my opinion it becomes a black and white answer of get them home ASAP or lock them out until it’s over. It’s completely the individuals decision, but a harsh reality given the global situation.

Yeah I can see that argument but it just goes against my belief that we shouldn't lock Australians out.

Goes against my belief that stupidity should be rewarded ...anyone who has left the country post Covid must understand the risks involved ...

I have no problem with that stance mate

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/06/14/covid-19-vaccine-mistake.aspx?ui=88138795d76b21e39628d2cc85b02d57ca6b9181440cf0c220400dce37dd43ba&sd=19000101&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20210614&mid=DM903835&rid=1182615764&p4=20210531&p5=


Have a read

Please do not pm me this

 

[Tiger5150]

These outbreaks are going to just go on and on until they stop the planes.

I’ve got a pretty strong opinion that we need to set a deadline to return home from abroad. The bandaid effect of slowly allowing people to return is crazy.

There’s military capability to set final flights home from each country in the world. Return travellers “stuck” overseas should have an option to contact the embassy, sign up for a final return flight and be able to ship out. Otherwise, enjoy your travels and we hope the country you’re travelling in can manage the virus effectively.

I’ve got family and friends struggling to keep their businesses and jobs afloat because of this virus and I just find it astonishing that we are just continually letting this virus and its variants back in time and time again with the every possible chance of major breakouts and potential loss of life.

When is enough enough? Can anyone actually see an end to this without virtually complete border closure?

Every new breakout is a heavier burden on the economy and risk to everything we’ve all worked so hard to prevent.

I know it goes against popular opinion but I am not a fan of stopping Australians from returning home.

Is it stopping them if they have a chance to return home but don’t?

Yes

I guess we’d have to disagree on that. If they’re provided with an opportunity to get a flight home, but take on the risk of staying and travelling that’s on them in my opinion.

I get why people feel like that and had times I have gone close to agreeing with you. The issue I have is that is not the Australia I am proud of, we look after each other even when we make mistakes. I don't believe in telling people they can not come home regardless of the mistakes they have made.

I can respect that. I’m just so frustrated by the constant return of lockdown and restrictions. It just seems so unnecessary.

Me and another 80 blokes were made redundant last year due to the situation in Victoria. I was lucky to find work straight away. The fact that people are still overseas on a holiday, only returning when it hits the fan in that country frustrates the life out of me.

I would never turn an Aussie away, don’t get me wrong, but if they willingly stay after a deadline then a line in the sand has to be drawn for the sake of our own economy, health and general safety.

Otherwise, and as I see occurring time and time again, until every single traveller has returned from overseas, there’s an imminent threat of another break out nationally. If we get it wrong once it’s here and luckily have avoided so far it could be catastrophic.

People aren't just on holiday. There's people overseas on employment and looking after family etc. I do understand the viewpoint that if people haven't come home already unless absolutely necessary (i.e. caring for family or employment,) then they run the risk. It is an absolutely reasonable view to hold.

That all being said however, I am of the view that Australians hold a small blue document that should entitle them to right of return at any time of their choosing. I am vehemently opposed to Australia closing it's doors to any Australian citizen.

As a footnote, I am sorry to hear you and you colleagues lost your jobs. It is good to hear you were able to find employment, I hope that your colleagues are as fortunate.

CB, there are people over there still on holiday. I’ve got mates still over there doing exactly that. I personally blame the government for not providing opportunities for a faster and safer way home.

If Australia all but is clear in a year and a single person comes back positive and gets into the public, we’re back at square one again.

People seem to forget that people in employment and caring after family here are still being put through the ringer time and time again because of the return travellers. They can’t pay their bills or feed their family with each lockdown that comes through. So it’s not just the people overseas working who are put out.

If the minority need to come back and find alternative employment then so be it. The job loss that occurs at each lockdown far outweighs the minority working overseas.

If people have to care for family well maybe they have to stay and ride it out in that country or find support systems in the respective country to care for the family.

I’m not trying to come across as heartless, please don’t take my comments the wrong way. I want the best for Aussies too. I look at it from the perspective of, would I be angry if a return traveller caused someone in my family to be sick, or potentially die, very much so. Is another’s employment or holiday more important then the lives we all care about? Absolutely not.

So in my opinion it becomes a black and white answer of get them home ASAP or lock them out until it’s over. It’s completely the individuals decision, but a harsh reality given the global situation.

Yeah I can see that argument but it just goes against my belief that we shouldn't lock Australians out.

Goes against my belief that stupidity should be rewarded ...anyone who has left the country post Covid must understand the risks involved ...

I have no problem with that stance mate

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/06/14/covid-19-vaccine-mistake.aspx?ui=88138795d76b21e39628d2cc85b02d57ca6b9181440cf0c220400dce37dd43ba&sd=19000101&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20210614&mid=DM903835&rid=1182615764&p4=20210531&p5=


Have a read

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/byram-bridles-claim-that-covid-19-vaccines-are-toxic-fails-to-account-for-key-differences-between-the-spike-protein-produced-during-infection-and-vaccination-misrepresents-studies/

Its important to research this information thoroughly so thank you for posting this Yoss.

Some points. The healthfeedback article as well as the studies that Bridle quotes agree that the spike protein causes damage to blood vessels. PFizer agree with this however they stated that the spike protein stays predominantly in the injection site. The data showing that the spike protein doesnt stay in the injection site and instead travels throughout the body through the blood and collates in bone marrow and overies is not from Bridles quoted studies. This information, (that the protein collects in bone marrow and ovaries) is PFIZER data obtained under FOIA.

There have been many studies done (predominatly in last few months) showing that the actual S1 spike protein (the part used in the vaccines actually causes some of the damage. Many of these studies are in animals not humans, but many in ferrets which have the closest respiratory system to humans.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1092913420302288

I am NOT an anti-vaxer. I am fully vaccinated and so are all of my kids. I am also not a conspiracy theorist. This is a different animal and the fact that information is actively being suppressed is very worrying. According to VEARS (Government register of adverse vaccine events) more people have died from these vaccines than all vaccines over the last 30 years.

 

[jadtiger]

I am NOT an anti-vaxer. I am fully vaccinated and so are all of my kids. I am also not a conspiracy theorist. This is a different animal and the fact that information is actively being suppressed is very worrying. According to VEARS (Government register of adverse vaccine events) more people have died from these vaccines than all vaccines over the last 30 years.

You could well be correct but i would think the amount who have takes covid vaccines needs to be assessed in regards to the total amount of all other vaccines to get a proper breakdown of risk.

 

[Tiger5150]

I am NOT an anti-vaxer. I am fully vaccinated and so are all of my kids. I am also not a conspiracy theorist. This is a different animal and the fact that information is actively being suppressed is very worrying. According to VEARS (Government register of adverse vaccine events) more people have died from these vaccines than all vaccines over the last 30 years.





You could well be correct but i would think the amount who have takes covid vaccines needs to be assessed in regards to the total amount of all other vaccines to get a proper breakdown of risk.

A sensible outlook.

Like I said, I am NOT anti vax, I am totally vaxed as are my kids. Everything should be a risk/benefit analysis. Beside the fact that the current vaccines are using a novel technology, these vaccines are the first vaccines ever that have never been through phase 4 trials. These vaccines have not even really been phase 3 trials (the current use is technically phase 3 trials but actual phase 3 trials are supposed to be immediately stopped on an adverse reaction let alone deaths).

For me one critical consideration is that for all the other vaccines, there is not a legitimate option otherwise. As I've flooded this thread with, there is a mass of trials proving Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) is as effective as the vaccines as a prophylactic. These trials are actually at MORE advanced stages than the vaccines. I am NOT stating definitively that this is the case but it needs investigation. The first fully peer reviewed phase 4 trial on Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) as a prophylactic is due out this week.

 

[mike]

@Tiger5150 not confirmed but I believe Greg Hunt has sent a letter to allow Physicians to prescribe Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) to treat Covid19.

Edit: The reasoning behind the letter was that Drs were prescribing it anyway, off label. So this just makes it legal. Still not TGA approved though, but they will look the other way.

 

[Tiger5150]

@Tiger5150 not confirmed but I believe Greg Hunt has sent a letter to allow Physicians to prescribe Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) to treat Covid19.

Edit: The reasoning behind the letter was that Drs were prescribing it anyway, off label. So this just makes it legal. Still not TGA approved though, but they will look the other way.

THat is potentially good news. I am not sure of the legality here, but I know in the US doctors can prescribe it off label because it is such a safe drug with over 50years of data supporting it.

 

[Tiger5150]

@Tiger5150 not confirmed but I believe Greg Hunt has sent a letter to allow Physicians to prescribe Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) to treat Covid19.

Edit: The reasoning behind the letter was that Drs were prescribing it anyway, off label. So this just makes it legal. Still not TGA approved though, but they will look the other way.


THat is potentially good news. I am not sure of the legality here, but I know in the US doctors can prescribe it off label because it is such a safe drug with over 50years of data supporting it.

Would love to see it for prophylactic purposes as well as treatment.

 

[mike]

Some sobering stats out of the UK with a population of 67.61M:

1 in every 500 people in the UK has died as a result of Covid19
1 in every 1,000,000 (1M) people in the UK has died of vaccine related reactions (eg clotting).

 

[Tim Sheens]

Some sobering stats out of the UK with a population of 67.61M:

1 in every 500 people in the UK has died as a result of Covid19
1 in every 1,000,000 (1M) people in the UK has died of vaccine related reactions (eg clotting).

And likely ten to twenty fold as bad, or even worse without mitigation.

 

[mike]

Some sobering stats out of the UK with a population of 67.61M:

1 in every 500 people in the UK has died as a result of Covid19
1 in every 1,000,000 (1M) people in the UK has died of vaccine related reactions (eg clotting).

And likely ten to twenty fold as bad, or even worse without mitigation.

Yes indeed.

 

[happy_tiger]

Some sobering stats out of the UK with a population of 67.61M:

1 in every 500 people in the UK has died as a result of Covid19
1 in every 1,000,000 (1M) people in the UK has died of vaccine related reactions (eg clotting).

And likely ten to twenty fold as bad, or even worse without mitigation.

Over 75% vaccinated though ......down to the 20's age group wise ...

If you took sport of Aussies ...we'd have the 90% vaccinations

 

[Tiger5150]

Some sobering stats out of the UK with a population of 67.61M:

1 in every 500 people in the UK has died as a result of Covid19
1 in every 1,000,000 (1M) people in the UK has died of vaccine related reactions (eg clotting).

And likely ten to twenty fold as bad, or even worse without mitigation.

Over 75% vaccinated though ......down to the 20's age group wise ...

If you took sport of Aussies ...we'd have the 90% vaccinations

75% vaccinated and yet they are still daily new cases of 7673 per day with the three monthly average rising. Doesnt add up.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51768274

 

[Tim Sheens]

Some sobering stats out of the UK with a population of 67.61M:

1 in every 500 people in the UK has died as a result of Covid19
1 in every 1,000,000 (1M) people in the UK has died of vaccine related reactions (eg clotting).

And likely ten to twenty fold as bad, or even worse without mitigation.

Over 75% vaccinated though ......down to the 20's age group wise ...

If you took sport of Aussies ...we'd have the 90% vaccinations


75% vaccinated and yet they are still daily new cases of 7673 per day with the three monthly average rising. Doesnt add up.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51768274

It will almost certainly be the same in the southern USA soon, with the Delta variant taking over in a few short weeks or so on the isle and about to get a solid hold stateside, with younger patients already taking up an inordinate amount of space in ICU's.

 

[happy_tiger]

Some sobering stats out of the UK with a population of 67.61M:

1 in every 500 people in the UK has died as a result of Covid19
1 in every 1,000,000 (1M) people in the UK has died of vaccine related reactions (eg clotting).

And likely ten to twenty fold as bad, or even worse without mitigation.

Over 75% vaccinated though ......down to the 20's age group wise ...

If you took sport of Aussies ...we'd have the 90% vaccinations


75% vaccinated and yet they are still daily new cases of 7673 per day with the three monthly average rising. Doesnt add up.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51768274

Haven't you been watching the cricket mate ......they are playing in front of almost full crowds

 

[Tiger5150]

Some sobering stats out of the UK with a population of 67.61M:

1 in every 500 people in the UK has died as a result of Covid19
1 in every 1,000,000 (1M) people in the UK has died of vaccine related reactions (eg clotting).

And likely ten to twenty fold as bad, or even worse without mitigation.

Over 75% vaccinated though ......down to the 20's age group wise ...

If you took sport of Aussies ...we'd have the 90% vaccinations


75% vaccinated and yet they are still daily new cases of 7673 per day with the three monthly average rising. Doesnt add up.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51768274

Haven't you been watching the cricket mate ......they are playing in front of almost full crowds

Mate if 75% of them are vaccinated, and 4.5M of them have caught the virus (7%) that makes 82% of them immune. How is there a big enough viral reservoir for the daily rates to be increasing?