Will NY Times do?
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/world/asia/china-covid-lockdown.amp.html
Sorry @mike this also doesn't answer the question, this is a story about a lockdown that is to prevent an outbreak, the story is not about another infection wave,
story exerpt: "When a handful of new coronavirus cases materialized this month in a province surrounding Beijing — apparently spread at a village wedding party — the Chinese authorities bolted into action"
You don’t lock down 22M people just for the fun of it.
I didn't ask about about lockdowns, 22m in lockdown doesn't mean 22m infected,
The following is my original queation,
"So can someone please point me in the right direction that shows/proves that China has had more than the one wave, as some of you have said"
What is your definition of a ‘wave’?
A multitude of infections in a specificed date/period.
Defined multitude, how many?10s/100s/1000s/Millions or % of population? And what date/period? A day/Week/month? Just want to get a feel for what you would consider a wave?
And You keep trying to get off the topic, can you prove that China had more than the one **infection wave** or not? Simple.
Not off topic at all. Unless you define what you consider a wave it’s pointless as you can just dismiss it as not a wave. So put some solid criteria around it. Would you consider that Sydney is going through a wave?
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i would never had thought anyone would be agitated and offended by a very legitimate question.
I now refuse to engage in this nonsense any more further.
I am neither agitated nor offended. I really wanted to know.
As you are unable to define what you consider a wave it’s probably best that you stop engaging.
Okay, so, since you seem to know, what is your definition of a "wave" in a pandemic. Please answer.
So you really don't have a definition. OK.
To me I would consider Sydney is going through a wave. I would define a wave as number of cases reported daily say 60 or more and increasing over a period of a couple of weeks and continuing to increase where normal physical distancing, masks and hygiene measures are not effective. The resulting measures needed to decrease the numbers require more extreme measures like restricting gatherings, preventing unnecessary movements and interactions between people not in the same household. In other words a lock-down is needed to reduce the spread of the virus.
Excuse the late response since yesterday (i've been away from the forum and just returned) with all due respect @mike, my intention here is only to make sure that there is no ambiguity about what i've said and asked in my post yesterday.
Today, When i backtracked to my original post (which includes the term i used "infection wave") I then read the first few replies and comments, i realised that most of the repliers knew what i meant by me saying infection wave, and responded accordingly to this term, except you, but that was fine too.
But before we get to this definirion of what a wave is that you asked about, at the time when i was asking the forum “So can someone please point me in the right direction that shows/proves that China has had more than the one wave, as some of you have said”
You then sent me a link that supposedly answers this question, i then replied by saying,
I didn’t ask about about lockdowns, 22m in lockdown doesn’t mean 22m infected" (i believe now this really annoyed you)
Again, through the duration of the discussion and up to this point most observers knew what type of a wave i was talking about,
When seeing that i didn't
accept your answer as a relevant answer, You then wanted to change the focus by wanting an answer about that word that everyone clearly knew, you asked how do you define a "wave", i responded quickly, then you responded again by saying,
"To me I would consider Sydney is going through a wave. I would define a wave as **number of cases** reported daily say 60 or more and increasing over a period of a couple of weeks and continuing to increase where normal **physical distancing**, masks and hygiene measures are not effective. The resulting measures needed to decrease the numbers require more extreme measures like **restricting gatherings**, preventing unnecessary movements and interactions between people not in the same household. In other words a **lock-down** is needed to reduce the spread of the virus"
Mate, surely your not serious here are you? You have combined, daily cases(infections)**+**health advice**+**restrictions**+**lockdown**+**did you forget something else?
all of this to fit in the one **definition of what is a wave?**
Now, in the past, i've liked many of your posts, and i know you've liked some of mine, and i now a lot of your friends here will quickly jump to show their support for you and thats what mates are for,
But, mate, Seriously, RUOK is the Sydney lockdown becoming to much for you?
Now, i'm certain that i'll get another 3-4 downvotes from your mates again for pointing out your errors, but guys i'm giving you the chance to vote me out of this forum but the downvotes would need to be more than 10, So, this would give me a fair indication of how many fools there are here for ckicking on downvotes for what was only a modest opinion, and if the number of downvotes are true then i'm out of here,
So, guys, don't think or use your reason, just click, click.
Ready, steady, go ▶▶▶▶??
My efforts were to actually focus and pin point exactly what you are talking about. You still haven’t given any information of what you consider a wave. By not providing a definition you can just dismiss any information provided to you as not relevant or related. This makes your whole discussion totally meaningless as there are no quantifiable parameters and you can just dismiss things out of hand as not relevant. OK.
Like i tried to say, from the time/day a large number of infections/cases are detected to the time/day the number of new infections/cases are diminished would be known as a "wave"
And it seemed clear to most of the respondents to my post that this is what i meant because they were responding accordingly.
You still wont define what you mean. No metrics around it. You have been given examples but just deny it because you don't have any definition. Easy way to deny anything.
Relax take it easy @mike , i have nothing more to say on this,
But, when you do find a better definition than your last attempt then please let me know. Cheers
My definition stands. Still see you wont define what you actually mean. Better you don't say anything else.
