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@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437393) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437390) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437387) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437381) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437371) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437366) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437360) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437345) said:
I find it interesting that the TGA (defined below) has changed their wording this week in their “COVID-19 vaccine weekly safety report - 05-08-2021”. It’s almost as if they are trying to mask the fact that 425 people who were recently vaccinated have died

Before I’m attacked or silenced for misinformation I have included extracts from their last two reports as well as the link to the most recent report on the TGA website, an Australian government website

https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-05-08-2021

5/8
“The TGA has found that 7 reports of deaths were likely to be linked to immunisation from 425 reports received and reviewed.”

29/7
“The TGA has received and reviewed 407 reports of deaths in people who have recently been vaccinated and found that 6 were linked to immunisation.”

17/6
“To 13 June 2021, we received 303 reports of death following vaccination for COVID-19 vaccines.”

TGA is the Therapeutic Goods Association which is “part of the Department of Health, safeguards and enhances the health of the Australian community through effective and timely regulation of therapeutic goods.”

Yes but only 7 deaths are related to immunisation (vaccine), not 425. The vaccine doesn’t vaccinate you against death, just Covid19.

Sort of makes you wonder what the other 418 people who were recently vaccinated died from

Either way it’s at best significant relative to 24 covid deaths over the same period. If any of the other 418 are somehow related to the vaccine itself then it’s even more significant

Whatever they were it wasn’t vaccine related.

How can anyone be sure

If for example 63 were from heart attacks how can anyone categorically determine they were not linked in any way

Additionally these are only the reported deaths. Harvard research into the similar VAERS system in the US estimates the system only captures between 1-10% of adverse reactions (to vaccines in general, not the covid vaccine)

It’s a valid concern

Because that’s what health professionals do, determine the cause of death. You are almost suggesting that if the population is vaccinated against Covid19 then nobody dies from any cause. Please tell me that is not what you are suggesting.

It is not

Just to clarify that you agree that people can get the Covid19 vaccine but then still die from other cause. A simple yes or no will do.

Where’s the fun in a simple yes or no

It’s a yes, just like people that return a positive PCR test can die from a cause other than covid (but they will still be counted in the covid death numbers)
 
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437398) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437393) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437390) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437387) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437381) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437371) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437366) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437360) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437345) said:
I find it interesting that the TGA (defined below) has changed their wording this week in their “COVID-19 vaccine weekly safety report - 05-08-2021”. It’s almost as if they are trying to mask the fact that 425 people who were recently vaccinated have died

Before I’m attacked or silenced for misinformation I have included extracts from their last two reports as well as the link to the most recent report on the TGA website, an Australian government website

https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-05-08-2021

5/8
“The TGA has found that 7 reports of deaths were likely to be linked to immunisation from 425 reports received and reviewed.”

29/7
“The TGA has received and reviewed 407 reports of deaths in people who have recently been vaccinated and found that 6 were linked to immunisation.”

17/6
“To 13 June 2021, we received 303 reports of death following vaccination for COVID-19 vaccines.”

TGA is the Therapeutic Goods Association which is “part of the Department of Health, safeguards and enhances the health of the Australian community through effective and timely regulation of therapeutic goods.”

Yes but only 7 deaths are related to immunisation (vaccine), not 425. The vaccine doesn’t vaccinate you against death, just Covid19.

Sort of makes you wonder what the other 418 people who were recently vaccinated died from

Either way it’s at best significant relative to 24 covid deaths over the same period. If any of the other 418 are somehow related to the vaccine itself then it’s even more significant

Whatever they were it wasn’t vaccine related.

How can anyone be sure

If for example 63 were from heart attacks how can anyone categorically determine they were not linked in any way

Additionally these are only the reported deaths. Harvard research into the similar VAERS system in the US estimates the system only captures between 1-10% of adverse reactions (to vaccines in general, not the covid vaccine)

It’s a valid concern

Because that’s what health professionals do, determine the cause of death. You are almost suggesting that if the population is vaccinated against Covid19 then nobody dies from any cause. Please tell me that is not what you are suggesting.

It is not

Just to clarify that you agree that people can get the Covid19 vaccine but then still die from other cause. A simple yes or no will do.

Where’s the fun in a simple yes or no

It’s a yes, just like people that return a positive PCR test can die from a cause other than covid (but they will still be counted in the covid death numbers)

Why would you include a none covid related death as a Covid related death?
 
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437398) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437393) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437390) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437387) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437381) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437371) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437366) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437360) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437345) said:
I find it interesting that the TGA (defined below) has changed their wording this week in their “COVID-19 vaccine weekly safety report - 05-08-2021”. It’s almost as if they are trying to mask the fact that 425 people who were recently vaccinated have died

Before I’m attacked or silenced for misinformation I have included extracts from their last two reports as well as the link to the most recent report on the TGA website, an Australian government website

https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-05-08-2021

5/8
“The TGA has found that 7 reports of deaths were likely to be linked to immunisation from 425 reports received and reviewed.”

29/7
“The TGA has received and reviewed 407 reports of deaths in people who have recently been vaccinated and found that 6 were linked to immunisation.”

17/6
“To 13 June 2021, we received 303 reports of death following vaccination for COVID-19 vaccines.”

TGA is the Therapeutic Goods Association which is “part of the Department of Health, safeguards and enhances the health of the Australian community through effective and timely regulation of therapeutic goods.”

Yes but only 7 deaths are related to immunisation (vaccine), not 425. The vaccine doesn’t vaccinate you against death, just Covid19.

Sort of makes you wonder what the other 418 people who were recently vaccinated died from

Either way it’s at best significant relative to 24 covid deaths over the same period. If any of the other 418 are somehow related to the vaccine itself then it’s even more significant

Whatever they were it wasn’t vaccine related.

How can anyone be sure

If for example 63 were from heart attacks how can anyone categorically determine they were not linked in any way

Additionally these are only the reported deaths. Harvard research into the similar VAERS system in the US estimates the system only captures between 1-10% of adverse reactions (to vaccines in general, not the covid vaccine)

It’s a valid concern

Because that’s what health professionals do, determine the cause of death. You are almost suggesting that if the population is vaccinated against Covid19 then nobody dies from any cause. Please tell me that is not what you are suggesting.

It is not

Just to clarify that you agree that people can get the Covid19 vaccine but then still die from other cause. A simple yes or no will do.

Where’s the fun in a simple yes or no

It’s a yes, just like people that return a positive PCR test can die from a cause other than covid (but they will still be counted in the covid death numbers)

A simple yes was all that was needed. Glad you can finally admit it.
 
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437401) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437398) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437393) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437390) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437387) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437381) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437371) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437366) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437360) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437345) said:
I find it interesting that the TGA (defined below) has changed their wording this week in their “COVID-19 vaccine weekly safety report - 05-08-2021”. It’s almost as if they are trying to mask the fact that 425 people who were recently vaccinated have died

Before I’m attacked or silenced for misinformation I have included extracts from their last two reports as well as the link to the most recent report on the TGA website, an Australian government website

https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-05-08-2021

5/8
“The TGA has found that 7 reports of deaths were likely to be linked to immunisation from 425 reports received and reviewed.”

29/7
“The TGA has received and reviewed 407 reports of deaths in people who have recently been vaccinated and found that 6 were linked to immunisation.”

17/6
“To 13 June 2021, we received 303 reports of death following vaccination for COVID-19 vaccines.”

TGA is the Therapeutic Goods Association which is “part of the Department of Health, safeguards and enhances the health of the Australian community through effective and timely regulation of therapeutic goods.”

Yes but only 7 deaths are related to immunisation (vaccine), not 425. The vaccine doesn’t vaccinate you against death, just Covid19.

Sort of makes you wonder what the other 418 people who were recently vaccinated died from

Either way it’s at best significant relative to 24 covid deaths over the same period. If any of the other 418 are somehow related to the vaccine itself then it’s even more significant

Whatever they were it wasn’t vaccine related.

How can anyone be sure

If for example 63 were from heart attacks how can anyone categorically determine they were not linked in any way

Additionally these are only the reported deaths. Harvard research into the similar VAERS system in the US estimates the system only captures between 1-10% of adverse reactions (to vaccines in general, not the covid vaccine)

It’s a valid concern

Because that’s what health professionals do, determine the cause of death. You are almost suggesting that if the population is vaccinated against Covid19 then nobody dies from any cause. Please tell me that is not what you are suggesting.

It is not

Just to clarify that you agree that people can get the Covid19 vaccine but then still die from other cause. A simple yes or no will do.

Where’s the fun in a simple yes or no

It’s a yes, just like people that return a positive PCR test can die from a cause other than covid (but they will still be counted in the covid death numbers)

Why would you include a none covid related death as a Covid related death?

Good question, ask them because they do
 
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437402) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437398) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437393) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437390) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437387) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437381) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437371) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437366) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437360) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437345) said:
I find it interesting that the TGA (defined below) has changed their wording this week in their “COVID-19 vaccine weekly safety report - 05-08-2021”. It’s almost as if they are trying to mask the fact that 425 people who were recently vaccinated have died

Before I’m attacked or silenced for misinformation I have included extracts from their last two reports as well as the link to the most recent report on the TGA website, an Australian government website

https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-05-08-2021

5/8
“The TGA has found that 7 reports of deaths were likely to be linked to immunisation from 425 reports received and reviewed.”

29/7
“The TGA has received and reviewed 407 reports of deaths in people who have recently been vaccinated and found that 6 were linked to immunisation.”

17/6
“To 13 June 2021, we received 303 reports of death following vaccination for COVID-19 vaccines.”

TGA is the Therapeutic Goods Association which is “part of the Department of Health, safeguards and enhances the health of the Australian community through effective and timely regulation of therapeutic goods.”

Yes but only 7 deaths are related to immunisation (vaccine), not 425. The vaccine doesn’t vaccinate you against death, just Covid19.

Sort of makes you wonder what the other 418 people who were recently vaccinated died from

Either way it’s at best significant relative to 24 covid deaths over the same period. If any of the other 418 are somehow related to the vaccine itself then it’s even more significant

Whatever they were it wasn’t vaccine related.

How can anyone be sure

If for example 63 were from heart attacks how can anyone categorically determine they were not linked in any way

Additionally these are only the reported deaths. Harvard research into the similar VAERS system in the US estimates the system only captures between 1-10% of adverse reactions (to vaccines in general, not the covid vaccine)

It’s a valid concern

Because that’s what health professionals do, determine the cause of death. You are almost suggesting that if the population is vaccinated against Covid19 then nobody dies from any cause. Please tell me that is not what you are suggesting.

It is not

Just to clarify that you agree that people can get the Covid19 vaccine but then still die from other cause. A simple yes or no will do.

Where’s the fun in a simple yes or no

It’s a yes, just like people that return a positive PCR test can die from a cause other than covid (but they will still be counted in the covid death numbers)

A simple yes was all that was needed. Glad you can finally admit it.

Or was the simple yes all you cared to comment on
 
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437410) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437402) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437398) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437393) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437390) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437387) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437381) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437371) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437366) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437360) said:
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437345) said:
I find it interesting that the TGA (defined below) has changed their wording this week in their “COVID-19 vaccine weekly safety report - 05-08-2021”. It’s almost as if they are trying to mask the fact that 425 people who were recently vaccinated have died

Before I’m attacked or silenced for misinformation I have included extracts from their last two reports as well as the link to the most recent report on the TGA website, an Australian government website

https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-05-08-2021

5/8
“The TGA has found that 7 reports of deaths were likely to be linked to immunisation from 425 reports received and reviewed.”

29/7
“The TGA has received and reviewed 407 reports of deaths in people who have recently been vaccinated and found that 6 were linked to immunisation.”

17/6
“To 13 June 2021, we received 303 reports of death following vaccination for COVID-19 vaccines.”

TGA is the Therapeutic Goods Association which is “part of the Department of Health, safeguards and enhances the health of the Australian community through effective and timely regulation of therapeutic goods.”

Yes but only 7 deaths are related to immunisation (vaccine), not 425. The vaccine doesn’t vaccinate you against death, just Covid19.

Sort of makes you wonder what the other 418 people who were recently vaccinated died from

Either way it’s at best significant relative to 24 covid deaths over the same period. If any of the other 418 are somehow related to the vaccine itself then it’s even more significant

Whatever they were it wasn’t vaccine related.

How can anyone be sure

If for example 63 were from heart attacks how can anyone categorically determine they were not linked in any way

Additionally these are only the reported deaths. Harvard research into the similar VAERS system in the US estimates the system only captures between 1-10% of adverse reactions (to vaccines in general, not the covid vaccine)

It’s a valid concern

Because that’s what health professionals do, determine the cause of death. You are almost suggesting that if the population is vaccinated against Covid19 then nobody dies from any cause. Please tell me that is not what you are suggesting.

It is not

Just to clarify that you agree that people can get the Covid19 vaccine but then still die from other cause. A simple yes or no will do.

Where’s the fun in a simple yes or no

It’s a yes, just like people that return a positive PCR test can die from a cause other than covid (but they will still be counted in the covid death numbers)

A simple yes was all that was needed. Glad you can finally admit it.

Or was the simple yes all you cared to comment on

That’s the only thing I asked you about.
 
@tiger-beach said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437392) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437388) said:
Seems like whenever someone dies and people found out they have the vaccine 1-3 weeks earlier they have to relate it to the vaccine for clicks.

Seems it’s a valid question

I’m in no way claiming they all are but it’s far from out of the question for at least some

And that is why the independent body of the TGA have informed us that 7 people have died from covid vaccines.

It is also why ATAGI, on which the TGA has representation has changed the advice on the AZ option for 40-59yo.

If you want to complain about a death from the vaccines, maybe you should target the political pressure applied to slightly adjust the advice that seems to have cost the life of the woman that changed the number between the latest reports that you qouted earlier.
 
@nuggetron said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437024) said:
@demps said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437014) said:
@willow said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437009) said:
Well, NSW numbers are up again today and it's the same old spiel from Gladys...The lockdown hasn't worked, in so far as she could have, and should have gone harder with it.

I'll be surprised if she relaxes any restrictions next month.

You think we're looking at a long lockdown?

My sister in law has a wedding booked for next month.
Wonder how that'll go...


Hunter/Newcastle entered a 7 snap lockdown.
I have no doubts it will be extended.

you guys are a chance, i don't know what your numbers are like up there but you would think they have their own set of contract tracers etc to prevent it replicating sydney

Sydney i can't see us having any sort of xmas/nye at current rates, unless Gladys goes hard right now. the numbers of active in the community and isolation status unknown are consistently way too high (200 today). plus unknown sources of infection up to 171 meaning there's a stack of people out there not knowing they have it (or caring) or not scanning into places

we are screwed until she locks down hard across the city, but I'm sure i heard her carrying on about letting the unaffected LGA's have more freedoms, I'm sure that will end well

Are they the same LGA's that were left to roam free when the original outbreak occurred in those suburbs.

Gladys & Hazzard have made an absolute mess of this and should leave the job to someone that could do it properly.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437207) said:
@sco77y said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437195) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437134) said:
@sco77y said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437131) said:
I went out to grab a burger for lunch, and while I was waiting there a guy started on a tirade to someone he was talking to on the phone about COVID and the government.

He thought he was some sort of Italian gangster, saying that he knew people on the inside of government, and that "something is going down real soon", a scam, officials exposed etc..

Scarily though, when he got off the phone (he was talking very loudly) two strangers also waiting there engaged him with approval, and then they all started having a big chat about COVID being the world's biggest scam.

Some takeaways:

- The virus isn't real
- The vaccines are untested and don't work in the same way 'normal' vaccines do (they infect your bloodstream. apparently)
- They feel sorry for those who have been vaccinated "it's not their fault, they just haven't done their own research and do anything the government tells them"
- And the guy on the phone saying that the vaccines are essentially bugged - being used so that the government can track us (to which even the other idiots in agreeance to this point looked a little uncomfortable).

Longest wait for a burger I've ever had.


At least you had a comedy routine on loudspeaker while you waited.Its a pity you didnt record it and put it on the web to show the world what cretins these people are.

You'd think it was set up, it was so blatantly idiotic.

So the burgers weren't better at HJ's ?????

Not even in my top 5
 
@don_kershane said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437141) said:
A relation of my partner is refusing to have the vaccine on the advice of his church (Christian, Blacktown) . The foreign things in body nonsense . The same guy has stent in his artery after a heart attack-be happy to leave it there I would guess.

Someone with a existing heart condition who refuses to get vaccinated from a hotspot. Can't see that ending well
 
@tigertone said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437209) said:
@sco77y said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437131) said:
I went out to grab a burger for lunch, and while I was waiting there a guy started on a tirade to someone he was talking to on the phone about COVID and the government.

He thought he was some sort of Italian gangster, saying that he knew people on the inside of government, and that "something is going down real soon", a scam, officials exposed etc..

Scarily though, when he got off the phone (he was talking very loudly) two strangers also waiting there engaged him with approval, and then they all started having a big chat about COVID being the world's biggest scam.

Some takeaways:

- The virus isn't real
- The vaccines are untested and don't work in the same way 'normal' vaccines do (they infect your bloodstream. apparently)
- They feel sorry for those who have been vaccinated "it's not their fault, they just haven't done their own research and do anything the government tells them"
- And the guy on the phone saying that the vaccines are essentially bugged - being used so that the government can track us (to which even the other idiots in agreeance to this point looked a little uncomfortable).

Longest wait for a burger I've ever had.

The best one is the first one.
THE VIRUS ISNT REAL.
I hope and pray for that clown not to ever get the virus.
I can tell him for a fact that he wont be thinking its
fake if he gets it.

There’s some crazy people around. You always hear of people talking that crap but hearing it live is pretty shocking, especially when others are standing around agreeing.
 
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437427) said:
If you want to complain about a death from the vaccines,

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/safety-of-vaccines.html

"UPDATE
Getting vaccinated prevents severe illness, hospitalizations, and death. Unvaccinated people should get vaccinated and continue masking until they are fully vaccinated. With the Delta variant, this is more urgent than ever. CDC has updated guidance for fully vaccinated people based on new evidence on the Delta variant."

"Over 346 million doses of COVID-19 vaccine have been given in the United States from December 14, 2020, through August 2, 2021.

COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective. COVID-19 vaccines were evaluated in tens of thousands of participants in clinical trials. The vaccines met the Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) rigorous scientific standards for safety, effectiveness, and manufacturing quality needed to support emergency use authorization (EUA)."

The evidence from overseas states the following points:-

1. Vaccinated are 8 times less likely to contract COVID.
2. Vaccinated are 25 times less likely to required hospitalisation.
2. Vaccinated are 25 times less likely to required die.

The evidence from overseas has been backed up here.

In the latest outbreak we've seen 17 deaths. There hasn't been a single death from someone fully vaccinated.

In our current outbreak the following data reflects the experience overseas.

50 in intensive care
44 unvaccinated
4 first dose of AZ
2 first dose of Pfizer
0 fully vaccinated
 
The science on vaccinations is clear cut with a tonne of data. The science is pretty clearly accurate because you can actually predict what was going to happen and will happen prior to it occurring.

Science is reality. So you predict what will happen and then it happens.

It's not pretty seeing people die or develop severe disease. It doesn't make me happy to state what is happening.

Some people though continue to post absolute dribble and ignore the facts. This bizarre behavior astounds me. Imagine knowing that your advice will kill people and continuing to propagate it everywhere.

Please visit your GP and discuss the reality of the situation with them.

If you want more information do not get your information from Twitter or facebook or wherever these loony tunes ideas that kill people are being discussed.

Go to NSW Health, the Australian government or the CDC. There are other good sites but these sites provide accurate factual information.
 
@harvey said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437439) said:
@don_kershane said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437141) said:
A relation of my partner is refusing to have the vaccine on the advice of his church (Christian, Blacktown) . The foreign things in body nonsense . The same guy has stent in his artery after a heart attack-be happy to leave it there I would guess.

Someone with a existing heart condition who refuses to get vaccinated from a hotspot. Can't see that ending well


Like the 34 year old Hillsong Church man who died in the States after saying he wouldn't take a vaccine because God would protect him from COVID.
 
The deniers will all say everyone had a underlying health condition your not being told about. I imagine hearing this would be a kick in the guts for someone that has been affected in this pandemic.
 
This is a good read - https://www.vox.com/coronavirus-covid19/2021/8/5/22608142/us-covid-19-cases-deaths-delta-variant-vaccines?fbclid=IwAR3enUqew6O3O-K1oyAzKJi1dvS0wcD6FpyEu-VVccfGAiHQ6Lr9CN9ty0s
 
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437459) said:
The deniers will all say everyone had a underlying health condition your not being told about. I imagine hearing this would be a kick in the guts for someone that has been affected in this pandemic.

I even heard one of those lovely people state recently that when someone's heart gave up from fighting COVID it was probably due to the media attention.

It's honestly so bizarre.

I was thinking why don't these people realize the conspiracy is actually on them and they are creating it for themselves. They believe it's not going to impact them but it probably will especially if they are pushing this nonsense onto their family and friends.

They think it's political but COVID ain't political. It's a virus.
 
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437467) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437459) said:
The deniers will all say everyone had a underlying health condition your not being told about. I imagine hearing this would be a kick in the guts for someone that has been affected in this pandemic.

I even heard one of those lovely people state recently that when someone's heart gave up from fighting COVID it was probably due to the media attention.

It's honestly so bizarre.

I was thinking why don't these people realize the conspiracy is actually on them and they are creating it for themselves. They believe it's not going to impact them but it probably will especially if they are pushing this nonsense onto their family and friends.

They think it's political but COVID ain't political. It's a virus.

Wasn't that said on here?
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437471) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437467) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437459) said:
The deniers will all say everyone had a underlying health condition your not being told about. I imagine hearing this would be a kick in the guts for someone that has been affected in this pandemic.

I even heard one of those lovely people state recently that when someone's heart gave up from fighting COVID it was probably due to the media attention.

It's honestly so bizarre.

I was thinking why don't these people realize the conspiracy is actually on them and they are creating it for themselves. They believe it's not going to impact them but it probably will especially if they are pushing this nonsense onto their family and friends.

They think it's political but COVID ain't political. It's a virus.

Wasn't that said on here?

It was. I wonder if that person is going to apologize for their behavior and admit they have been and still are propagating advice that will and has killed people.

I'll just explain what happens in case any person is uneducated or misinformed or lacks the intelligence to understand what happens.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-31/how-covid-delta-kills-patients-virus/100335290


"During this phase COVID-19 patients are often diagnosed with brain inflammation causing confusion, seizures and strokes. Similar inflammation is seen in the heart leading to increased incidence of blood clots and heart attack."

Basically the body is completely overwhelmed via the virus and your organs break down. Hence you die of a heart attack. You wouldn't have died of a heart attack if you didn't get COVID. You are not necessarily prone to heart attacks. Your organs simply can't function anymore.
 
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