Coronavirus Outbreak

[Tim Sheens]

There are just so many people struggling here at the moment and for some that starts with a lack of funds and grows in so many other areas on the back of that. With charities overwhelmed as well.

It is past time for more help for those left behind, with living in poverty hard enough at any time and made much worse during this increasingly challenging period. Virtually every single dollar at the lower level is returned to the economy and lifted so many early on in this pandemic.

It doesn't need to be as large as the first supplements, but should at least get the needy somewhere near the poverty line.

The money is going to run out. I reckon they are giving out heaps. What about the rest of the world as well.

I'm on your side. It's just I see problems everywhere.

It is money well spent in so many ways, none more so than the proportion of it that helps to limit the spread of the virus. The health savings are disproportionate to the cost long term as well.

We are soon to give up to around $7k in annual tax cuts to the more fortunate, which gives much less return to both society and the economy.

 

[mike]

Bunnings closing ALL retail stores in Greater Sydney as of Monday. Tradies allowed, everyone else is click and collect.

https://amp.9news.com.au/article/04fe9c6f-8aa2-447c-a1d9-3d447806af09

 

[swag_tiger]

Maybe so but the facilities will lose more money doing a deep clean and closing for 2 weeks if a infected person enters then if they only had a selected few come into their store.

 

[innsaneink]

Will be interesting viewing if this rumoured protest
goes ahead tomorrow
I hope it doesnt as we all know it just sets us
all back
Maybe the jailing of the organiser of the one last month
might change a few minds

 

[innsaneink]

Bunnings closing ALL retail stores in Greater Sydney as of Monday. Tradies allowed, everyone else is click and collect.

https://amp.9news.com.au/article/04fe9c6f-8aa2-447c-a1d9-3d447806af09

Nice and sunny warm weekend ahead
I see long queues tomorrow and sunday

 

[mike]

I live in an area of concern and have both vaccinations.

The one hour of exercise per day limit is ridiculous.

I agree but what do they do. They have clearly stated it has nothing at all to do with medical reasons but it's for compliance.

To put it another way it's the easiest way for the police to target people who don't get it.

It’s Fuller thinking that the NSW people serve the NSW police, not the other way around.

I agree but the situation is a disaster. Did you listen to the press conference today. Dr Chant to me appears to be pushing this and she appears right on board to me. It's not as simple as the police force being nightmares. **She also confirmed that she hadn't offered her resignation**. We have to be careful with news spread via social media.

I do agree with you though. It's just that this is a once in a lifetime scenario. I can also see this turning poorly in certain situations.

I'm hopeful by Christmas we don't have lockdowns ever again. I'm probably too optimistic.

She’s just playing with semantics.

 

[earl]

I live in an area of concern and have both vaccinations.

The one hour of exercise per day limit is ridiculous.

I agree but what do they do. They have clearly stated it has nothing at all to do with medical reasons but it's for compliance.

To put it another way it's the easiest way for the police to target people who don't get it.

It’s Fuller thinking that the NSW people serve the NSW police, not the other way around.

I agree but the situation is a disaster. Did you listen to the press conference today. Dr Chant to me appears to be pushing this and she appears right on board to me. It's not as simple as the police force being nightmares. **She also confirmed that she hadn't offered her resignation**. We have to be careful with news spread via social media.

I do agree with you though. It's just that this is a once in a lifetime scenario. I can also see this turning poorly in certain situations.

I'm hopeful by Christmas we don't have lockdowns ever again. I'm probably too optimistic.

She’s just playing with semantics.

I thought it was interesting. She may be but they are on the same page atm.

 

[Merlot]

aaahh the good old days when police were feared,not bashed by scum that dont like being civil,

 

[swag_tiger]

For mine, a big line was crossed when the NSW Police Commissioner gave officers free reign to issue fines with no accountability:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/police-commissioner-says-officers-wrongly-issuing-tickets-won-t-be-held-to-account-20210819-p58k76.html

We're all trying to play by the rules. Coppers shouldn't have some special exemption.

At the moment the environment that is being created is that the police are above the law.

Very true. I have zero regard for Mick Fuller as being anything other than a dinosaur relic of eras past when Police were meant to be feared, not respected. In fact, he has stated as much, publicly.

I've witnessed some of my community members, not just stopped by Police in unmarked cars to check on their reasons for being away from home, but also subjected to body searches - patted down after emptying pockets, bags searched and cars searched. A massive overreach by emboldened Police following the direction of Fuller to "go hard" and abandon the concept of "community policing".

They know they will not be held to account for their actions. Fuller said so.

It is outrageous.

But, what can we expect from the leadership of a compromised and dodgy Premier, an arrogant and bullying Health Minister and a Police Minister who struggles to put a coherent sentence together?

We get Mick Fuller flexing muscle and allowing his "force" to do the same under some spurious claim that it will reduce community transmission of the virus.

This is as serious a public health and wellbeing issue as I have ever experienced in my 62 years on the planet.

And, just when we need accountable, timely and responsive leadership by those in positions to make it better for us, we get a shambolic, incoherent, divisive, ineffective and politically driven strategy of pitting one part of Sydney/the State against the other and blaming individuals in those "LGAs of concern" for increasing levels of infection and transmission.

It is outrageous. Nothing more, nothing less.

What would you have done then since you apparently know so much about governing a state?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

aaahh the good old days when police were feared,not bashed by scum that dont like being civil,

My father who is in his 80s remembers drinking at a pub with mates prior to going to the SCG. Bumper Farrell walked by and a patron made a comment to Bumper which questioned his manhood. The baton was swinging quickly on flesh as patrons exited the pub at a fast rate.

 

[mike]

For mine, a big line was crossed when the NSW Police Commissioner gave officers free reign to issue fines with no accountability:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/police-commissioner-says-officers-wrongly-issuing-tickets-won-t-be-held-to-account-20210819-p58k76.html

We're all trying to play by the rules. Coppers shouldn't have some special exemption.

At the moment the environment that is being created is that the police are above the law.

Very true. I have zero regard for Mick Fuller as being anything other than a dinosaur relic of eras past when Police were meant to be feared, not respected. In fact, he has stated as much, publicly.

I've witnessed some of my community members, not just stopped by Police in unmarked cars to check on their reasons for being away from home, but also subjected to body searches - patted down after emptying pockets, bags searched and cars searched. A massive overreach by emboldened Police following the direction of Fuller to "go hard" and abandon the concept of "community policing".

They know they will not be held to account for their actions. Fuller said so.

It is outrageous.

But, what can we expect from the leadership of a compromised and dodgy Premier, an arrogant and bullying Health Minister and a Police Minister who struggles to put a coherent sentence together?

We get Mick Fuller flexing muscle and allowing his "force" to do the same under some spurious claim that it will reduce community transmission of the virus.

This is as serious a public health and wellbeing issue as I have ever experienced in my 62 years on the planet.

And, just when we need accountable, timely and responsive leadership by those in positions to make it better for us, we get a shambolic, incoherent, divisive, ineffective and politically driven strategy of pitting one part of Sydney/the State against the other and blaming individuals in those "LGAs of concern" for increasing levels of infection and transmission.

It is outrageous. Nothing more, nothing less.

What would you have done then since you apparently know so much about governing a state?

I would follow health advice and tell Fuller to do his job and to get over his power trip.

 

[mike]

Bunnings closing ALL retail stores in Greater Sydney as of Monday. Tradies allowed, everyone else is click and collect.

https://amp.9news.com.au/article/04fe9c6f-8aa2-447c-a1d9-3d447806af09

Nice and sunny warm weekend ahead
I see long queues tomorrow and sunday

Officeworks now doing the same. Click and Collect only for all Greater Sydney stores as of Monday

 

[hobbo1]

Bunnings closing ALL retail stores in Greater Sydney as of Monday. Tradies allowed, everyone else is click and collect.

https://amp.9news.com.au/article/04fe9c6f-8aa2-447c-a1d9-3d447806af09

Up the Tradies !

 

[Merlot]

aaahh the good old days when police were feared,not bashed by scum that dont like being civil,

My father who is in his 80s remembers drinking at a pub with mates prior to going to the SCG. Bumper Farrell walked by and a patron made a comment to Bumper which questioned his manhood. The baton was swinging quickly on flesh as patrons exited the pub at a fast rate.

all a lot tougher back then,the new age rainbow worriers may need a few pages out of their books to get through the tuff times ahead

 

[mike]

Bunnings closing ALL retail stores in Greater Sydney as of Monday. Tradies allowed, everyone else is click and collect.

https://amp.9news.com.au/article/04fe9c6f-8aa2-447c-a1d9-3d447806af09

Up the Tradies !

The backbone of the country. Go you good things.

 

[swag_tiger]

What would I do @swag_tiger ? Not waste my time in trying to change the mind of people like you.

And, much more importantly, ensure the Premier, Health Minister, Police Minister, CMO and Police are operating under publicly accessible and accountable policy decisions. i think it's called democracy. You might need to Google it.

How would you stop the spread of the virus?

 

[swag_tiger]

Atlanta Falcons first NFL team to have 100% of the players vaccinated. We should use them to motivate the people here to get vaccinated.