Coronavirus Outbreak

[shiretiger]

I was up at our local Liquorland and the young lady behind the counter thanked me for wearing a mask. She was wearing one as well. All other customers were not. Some of our residents have lost all sense of proportion. A simple face mask can protect others.

Do you have the virus? Showing symptoms? If not, what did wearing the mask do for her?

If she was so fearful, stay home. Simples.

If you are so fearful, stay at home. Simples.

If you are double vaxxed and it does what is promised, why the fear? Trust the Science

 

[shiretiger]

Herd immunity as a realistic concept died out ages ago. I don't think anyone has said the current increase in cases was due to the relaxation of restrictions today.

Has anyone said any of that stuff ?

The new Virus can get past the old antibodies so that's gone out the window when the new variant arrived.

There are some interesting points on vaccination and this variant.

1. Does the vaccine keep us out of the hospital/ICU stop us from dying ?
2. How do the unvaccinated do in relation to staying out of hospital/ICU/dying ?
3. Can the health system handle this variant ?

We don't know the answer to these questions. At this point we have promising data from South Africa but it's one countries data.

The data from South Africa says basically this variant is milder and we should be okay. In saying that they are pushing boosters in the UK and I personally want my booster asap.

Good to see you are back Earl. I was worried our resident internet COVID expert was gone and I'd be bereft of this invaluable font of knowledge and wisdom.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I was up at our local Liquorland and the young lady behind the counter thanked me for wearing a mask. She was wearing one as well. All other customers were not. Some of our residents have lost all sense of proportion. A simple face mask can protect others.

Do you have the virus? Showing symptoms? If not, what did wearing the mask do for her?

If she was so fearful, stay home. Simples.

If you are so fearful, stay at home. Simples.

If you are double vaxxed and it does what is promised, why the fear? Trust the Science

Kerry Chant appears to believe the wearing of a mask is a simple but effective means of reducing transmission. I am more than willing to comply with her advice and wear a mask.

As for the shopkeeper, she obviously appreciated wearing of a mask.

 

[shiretiger]

I was up at our local Liquorland and the young lady behind the counter thanked me for wearing a mask. She was wearing one as well. All other customers were not. Some of our residents have lost all sense of proportion. A simple face mask can protect others.

Do you have the virus? Showing symptoms? If not, what did wearing the mask do for her?

If she was so fearful, stay home. Simples.

If you are so fearful, stay at home. Simples.

If you are double vaxxed and it does what is promised, why the fear? Trust the Science

Kerry Chant appears to believe the wearing of a mask is a simple but effective means of reducing transmission. I am more than willing to comply with her advice and wear a mask.

As for the shopkeeper, she obviously appreciated wearing of a mask.

That may be so, if you are infected. Are you a vaxxed COVID Mary?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I was up at our local Liquorland and the young lady behind the counter thanked me for wearing a mask. She was wearing one as well. All other customers were not. Some of our residents have lost all sense of proportion. A simple face mask can protect others.

Do you have the virus? Showing symptoms? If not, what did wearing the mask do for her?

If she was so fearful, stay home. Simples.

If you are so fearful, stay at home. Simples.

If you are double vaxxed and it does what is promised, why the fear? Trust the Science

Kerry Chant appears to believe the wearing of a mask is a simple but effective means of reducing transmission. I am more than willing to comply with her advice and wear a mask.

As for the shopkeeper, she obviously appreciated wearing of a mask.

That may be so, if you are infected. Are you a vaxxed COVID Mary?

Yes I am double vaccinated. Being double vaccinated does not prevent the acquiring of the disease nor does it prevent transmission. The washing of hands, distancing and the wearing of masks are simple but effective means of reducing the risk of transmission.

I don't want to see businesses destroyed or lives ruined when transmission can be reduced. That is all.

 

[shiretiger]

I was up at our local Liquorland and the young lady behind the counter thanked me for wearing a mask. She was wearing one as well. All other customers were not. Some of our residents have lost all sense of proportion. A simple face mask can protect others.

Do you have the virus? Showing symptoms? If not, what did wearing the mask do for her?

If she was so fearful, stay home. Simples.

If you are so fearful, stay at home. Simples.

If you are double vaxxed and it does what is promised, why the fear? Trust the Science

Kerry Chant appears to believe the wearing of a mask is a simple but effective means of reducing transmission. I am more than willing to comply with her advice and wear a mask.

As for the shopkeeper, she obviously appreciated wearing of a mask.

That may be so, if you are infected. Are you a vaxxed COVID Mary?

Yes I am double vaccinated. Being double vaccinated does not prevent the acquiring of the disease nor does it prevent transmission. The washing of hands, distancing and the wearing of masks are simple but effective means of reducing the risk of transmission.

I don't want to see businesses destroyed or lives ruined when transmission can be reduced. That is all.

You are truly a Saint amongst us. With people like you on our side, COVID doesn't stand a chance.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I was up at our local Liquorland and the young lady behind the counter thanked me for wearing a mask. She was wearing one as well. All other customers were not. Some of our residents have lost all sense of proportion. A simple face mask can protect others.

Do you have the virus? Showing symptoms? If not, what did wearing the mask do for her?

If she was so fearful, stay home. Simples.

If you are so fearful, stay at home. Simples.

If you are double vaxxed and it does what is promised, why the fear? Trust the Science

Kerry Chant appears to believe the wearing of a mask is a simple but effective means of reducing transmission. I am more than willing to comply with her advice and wear a mask.

As for the shopkeeper, she obviously appreciated wearing of a mask.

That may be so, if you are infected. Are you a vaxxed COVID Mary?

Yes I am double vaccinated. Being double vaccinated does not prevent the acquiring of the disease nor does it prevent transmission. The washing of hands, distancing and the wearing of masks are simple but effective means of reducing the risk of transmission.

I don't want to see businesses destroyed or lives ruined when transmission can be reduced. That is all.

You are truly a Saint amongst us. With people like you on our side, COVID doesn't stand a chance.

There is nothing more heartbreaking than lives ruined via the destruction of businesses or poor health outcomes.

 

[shiretiger]

I was up at our local Liquorland and the young lady behind the counter thanked me for wearing a mask. She was wearing one as well. All other customers were not. Some of our residents have lost all sense of proportion. A simple face mask can protect others.

Do you have the virus? Showing symptoms? If not, what did wearing the mask do for her?

If she was so fearful, stay home. Simples.

If you are so fearful, stay at home. Simples.

If you are double vaxxed and it does what is promised, why the fear? Trust the Science

Kerry Chant appears to believe the wearing of a mask is a simple but effective means of reducing transmission. I am more than willing to comply with her advice and wear a mask.

As for the shopkeeper, she obviously appreciated wearing of a mask.

That may be so, if you are infected. Are you a vaxxed COVID Mary?

Yes I am double vaccinated. Being double vaccinated does not prevent the acquiring of the disease nor does it prevent transmission. The washing of hands, distancing and the wearing of masks are simple but effective means of reducing the risk of transmission.

I don't want to see businesses destroyed or lives ruined when transmission can be reduced. That is all.

You are truly a Saint amongst us. With people like you on our side, COVID doesn't stand a chance.

There is nothing more heartbreaking than lives ruined via the destruction of businesses or poor health outcomes.

Liquorland have deep pockets and I havent seen too many pensioners with co-morbidities serving customers there Champ. Both the business and the whisp of a lass behind the counter will be fine.

 

[Papacito]

I was up at our local Liquorland and the young lady behind the counter thanked me for wearing a mask. She was wearing one as well. All other customers were not. Some of our residents have lost all sense of proportion. A simple face mask can protect others.

Do you have the virus? Showing symptoms? If not, what did wearing the mask do for her?

If she was so fearful, stay home. Simples.

If you are so fearful, stay at home. Simples.

If you are double vaxxed and it does what is promised, why the fear? Trust the Science

Kerry Chant appears to believe the wearing of a mask is a simple but effective means of reducing transmission. I am more than willing to comply with her advice and wear a mask.

As for the shopkeeper, she obviously appreciated wearing of a mask.

That may be so, if you are infected. Are you a vaxxed COVID Mary?

Yes I am double vaccinated. Being double vaccinated does not prevent the acquiring of the disease nor does it prevent transmission. The washing of hands, distancing and the wearing of masks are simple but effective means of reducing the risk of transmission.

I don't want to see businesses destroyed or lives ruined when transmission can be reduced. That is all.

You are truly a Saint amongst us. With people like you on our side, COVID doesn't stand a chance.

There is nothing more heartbreaking than lives ruined via the destruction of businesses or poor health outcomes.

Liquorland have deep pockets and I havent seen too many pensioners with co-morbidities serving customers there Champ. Both the business and the whisp of a lass behind the counter will be fine.

What happens when whisp of a lass goes home to whisp of a grandma after work?

 

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

It is looking more and more likely not getting the vax is the right decision. I am happy I stayed strong and didn’t follow the hurd. Mask wearing and social distancing is the only way to avoid Omicron at the stage. We still don’t know the long term effects of the vax on the body, this whole thing has been a huge cluster$&@$&.

 

[shiretiger]

I was up at our local Liquorland and the young lady behind the counter thanked me for wearing a mask. She was wearing one as well. All other customers were not. Some of our residents have lost all sense of proportion. A simple face mask can protect others.

Do you have the virus? Showing symptoms? If not, what did wearing the mask do for her?

If she was so fearful, stay home. Simples.

If you are so fearful, stay at home. Simples.

If you are double vaxxed and it does what is promised, why the fear? Trust the Science

Kerry Chant appears to believe the wearing of a mask is a simple but effective means of reducing transmission. I am more than willing to comply with her advice and wear a mask.

As for the shopkeeper, she obviously appreciated wearing of a mask.

That may be so, if you are infected. Are you a vaxxed COVID Mary?

Yes I am double vaccinated. Being double vaccinated does not prevent the acquiring of the disease nor does it prevent transmission. The washing of hands, distancing and the wearing of masks are simple but effective means of reducing the risk of transmission.

I don't want to see businesses destroyed or lives ruined when transmission can be reduced. That is all.

You are truly a Saint amongst us. With people like you on our side, COVID doesn't stand a chance.

There is nothing more heartbreaking than lives ruined via the destruction of businesses or poor health outcomes.

Liquorland have deep pockets and I havent seen too many pensioners with co-morbidities serving customers there Champ. Both the business and the whisp of a lass behind the counter will be fine.

What happens when whisp of a lass goes home to whisp of a grandma after work?

In all likelyhood, nothing. Paws isnt infected. A Saint like himself wouldnt go out if he was showing symptoms.

 

[Merlot]

this thread is contagius,the last few days its given me a headache and flu like symptoms,up until then the banter was mainly educational

 

[Tim Sheens]

Science and their colleagues in NSW health recommended to government earlier this week that masks remained mandatory in almost all the then current settings.

The want of the relatively few votes that may maintain power comes at a cost to those still serving us life's basic needs in a daily basis and much more to those manning hospital and rehab wards.

 

[Go_You_Good_Things]

this thread is contagius,the last few days its given me a headache and flu like symptoms,up until then the banter was mainly educational

Headache ? Pity us that have to try to read and decipher your posts.
There's a headache.

 

[swag_tiger]

It is looking more and more likely not getting the vax is the right decision. I am happy I stayed strong and didn’t follow the hurd. Mask wearing and social distancing is the only way to avoid Omicron at the stage. We still don’t know the long term effects of the vax on the body, this whole thing has been a huge cluster$&@$&.

7 cases in hospital, all are not fully vaccinated. But if you want to not be vaccinated then it's up to you. Most of the people who contract it who are vaccinated just do home isolation. Make of that as you will.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I was up at our local Liquorland and the young lady behind the counter thanked me for wearing a mask. She was wearing one as well. All other customers were not. Some of our residents have lost all sense of proportion. A simple face mask can protect others.

Do you have the virus? Showing symptoms? If not, what did wearing the mask do for her?

If she was so fearful, stay home. Simples.

If you are so fearful, stay at home. Simples.

If you are double vaxxed and it does what is promised, why the fear? Trust the Science

Kerry Chant appears to believe the wearing of a mask is a simple but effective means of reducing transmission. I am more than willing to comply with her advice and wear a mask.

As for the shopkeeper, she obviously appreciated wearing of a mask.

That may be so, if you are infected. Are you a vaxxed COVID Mary?

Yes I am double vaccinated. Being double vaccinated does not prevent the acquiring of the disease nor does it prevent transmission. The washing of hands, distancing and the wearing of masks are simple but effective means of reducing the risk of transmission.

I don't want to see businesses destroyed or lives ruined when transmission can be reduced. That is all.

You are truly a Saint amongst us. With people like you on our side, COVID doesn't stand a chance.

There is nothing more heartbreaking than lives ruined via the destruction of businesses or poor health outcomes.

Liquorland have deep pockets and I havent seen too many pensioners with co-morbidities serving customers there Champ. Both the business and the whisp of a lass behind the counter will be fine.

What happens when whisp of a lass goes home to whisp of a grandma after work?

In all likelyhood, nothing. Paws isnt infected. A Saint like himself wouldnt go out if he was showing symptoms.

I have a son with an underlying health condition. Despite having received his booster, the threat of bringing Covid home to him is very real. A few precautions can reduce that risk.

 

[BAGNF05]

Im not worried one bit about this flu like virus

I hope you are right. I'm telling my wife that this is what it now appears to be like and we just need to relax. The data is backing this assessment up right now but there has to be a massive risk and it's a risk in relation to people's lives.

BUT EARL it appears it is no greater threat than the seasonal flu we get and have got for hundreds of years,its a play by big pharma to make huge dollars...
look at it this way..since this scamdemic has appeared.
big pharma has made billions of dollars,GATES,FAUCCI ETC who are the main stakeholders have also pumped millions in to media,have shares in the hand sanitisers,have shares in the PCR testing equiptment and Gates is the MAJOR DONOR to the WHO....join the dots mate...

So all the talk about the majority in hospitals being Unvaxxed is a myth?

Absolutely ....the vaxxed are in the hospitals with adverse reactions....dont forget what came out of the Newcastle nightclub....all fully vaxxed staff and patrons..
Also the cruise ship 3200 people all staff and customers fully vaxxed,18/20 covid cases...NO UNVAXXED PEOPLE WERE ALLOWED IN......

You must know someone from inside the front linewith all this undisputed information you are getting.

I get hammered on here all the time because I research what I find from official websites...its not hard if you can be on a footy forum,you can research heaps online mate..

Research online or talk to someone on the front line. I have access to both. But nar the front line personnel have to be corrupt right?

Swag,I will tell you that 90% of the hierarchy in this country and around the world are corrupt,if you research the right websites like American frontline doctors for eg,,they have great info...


TT you say that you do your research and that is good but you need to check the credibility of websites that you do your research on.American frontline doctors are an extreme right wing political group that have little credibility just agendas and covid misinformation is one of them .They are nothing like our doctors groups in Australia or other civilised countries and they do not speak for the vast majority of the USA medical profession.
You are getting your information from the worst possible websites.Take care TT we all care about you

Appreciate your concern and well wishes PW....as many a scholar has always said '"you will never know answers unless you ask questions""...researching can take you to many different conclusions,some false some true and a great deal in between...
the main thing we should all care about is people,men ,women,boys and girls of all race,colour and creed...
the one big thing that has come out of this situation we are in atm is the hardship endured on many,many good people who just want to earn a living,feed their families,pay bills and enjoy life to the fullest..
People as human beings are mostly caring,kind and Godly people,there is the element of some humans that only want for themselves,this minority are the ones who dont care as we do,these are the ones that should be overcome by the good salt of the earth people that are in the majority...
That brings me to the point of the discussions we have within this thread,Earl has his opinion,you have yours and others have theirs...God only knows what type of world we would have if we were all exactly the same..
I will keep doing my research to find answers to MY questions.I have the freedom to do that as others do...
At the end of this horrible phase we are going through and only then will we all know how it ends up,who is right and who is wrong doesnt matter until we get out of this with as many lives safe and uninjured so life can go on as it was meant to,loving,peaceful,caring people raising families and enjoying friends company ..
CARING FOR OTHERS IS A GREATER GIFT THAN SELF PRESERVATION IN DIRE TIMES....
GOD bless all ......Im going ok and keep getting up each day helping others when I can....Im not in a straight jacket just yet....cheers brothers and sisters....

Keep researching mate, but go out and talk to scientists, doctors. Nurses, check out chicks. People working in hospitality and hospitals. Experts in their field. The internet is just a cess pit.

A lot of these people,scientists,doctors,hospital workers etc have sites on the internet....it cant all be a cesspool...

The ones I know are too busy working to maintain websites.

A lot worked during the height of the pandemic online re consulting and also gave much advice on their WEBSITES...there is quite a bit of info from international doctors who wanted to give advice to the needy...

Just be mindful anyone can buy a web address and claim to have expertise

 

[paul wright]

Im not worried one bit about this flu like virus

I hope you are right. I'm telling my wife that this is what it now appears to be like and we just need to relax. The data is backing this assessment up right now but there has to be a massive risk and it's a risk in relation to people's lives.

BUT EARL it appears it is no greater threat than the seasonal flu we get and have got for hundreds of years,its a play by big pharma to make huge dollars...
look at it this way..since this scamdemic has appeared.
big pharma has made billions of dollars,GATES,FAUCCI ETC who are the main stakeholders have also pumped millions in to media,have shares in the hand sanitisers,have shares in the PCR testing equiptment and Gates is the MAJOR DONOR to the WHO....join the dots mate...

So all the talk about the majority in hospitals being Unvaxxed is a myth?

Absolutely ....the vaxxed are in the hospitals with adverse reactions....dont forget what came out of the Newcastle nightclub....all fully vaxxed staff and patrons..
Also the cruise ship 3200 people all staff and customers fully vaxxed,18/20 covid cases...NO UNVAXXED PEOPLE WERE ALLOWED IN......

You must know someone from inside the front linewith all this undisputed information you are getting.

I get hammered on here all the time because I research what I find from official websites...its not hard if you can be on a footy forum,you can research heaps online mate..

Research online or talk to someone on the front line. I have access to both. But nar the front line personnel have to be corrupt right?

Swag,I will tell you that 90% of the hierarchy in this country and around the world are corrupt,if you research the right websites like American frontline doctors for eg,,they have great info...


TT you say that you do your research and that is good but you need to check the credibility of websites that you do your research on.American frontline doctors are an extreme right wing political group that have little credibility just agendas and covid misinformation is one of them .They are nothing like our doctors groups in Australia or other civilised countries and they do not speak for the vast majority of the USA medical profession.
You are getting your information from the worst possible websites.Take care TT we all care about you

Appreciate your concern and well wishes PW....as many a scholar has always said '"you will never know answers unless you ask questions""...researching can take you to many different conclusions,some false some true and a great deal in between...
the main thing we should all care about is people,men ,women,boys and girls of all race,colour and creed...
the one big thing that has come out of this situation we are in atm is the hardship endured on many,many good people who just want to earn a living,feed their families,pay bills and enjoy life to the fullest..
People as human beings are mostly caring,kind and Godly people,there is the element of some humans that only want for themselves,this minority are the ones who dont care as we do,these are the ones that should be overcome by the good salt of the earth people that are in the majority...
That brings me to the point of the discussions we have within this thread,Earl has his opinion,you have yours and others have theirs...God only knows what type of world we would have if we were all exactly the same..
I will keep doing my research to find answers to MY questions.I have the freedom to do that as others do...
At the end of this horrible phase we are going through and only then will we all know how it ends up,who is right and who is wrong doesnt matter until we get out of this with as many lives safe and uninjured so life can go on as it was meant to,loving,peaceful,caring people raising families and enjoying friends company ..
CARING FOR OTHERS IS A GREATER GIFT THAN SELF PRESERVATION IN DIRE TIMES....
GOD bless all ......Im going ok and keep getting up each day helping others when I can....Im not in a straight jacket just yet....cheers brothers and sisters....

Keep researching mate, but go out and talk to scientists, doctors. Nurses, check out chicks. People working in hospitality and hospitals. Experts in their field. The internet is just a cess pit.

A lot of these people,scientists,doctors,hospital workers etc have sites on the internet....it cant all be a cesspool...

The ones I know are too busy working to maintain websites.

A lot worked during the height of the pandemic online re consulting and also gave much advice on their WEBSITES...there is quite a bit of info from international doctors who wanted to give advice to the needy...

Just be mindful anyone can buy a web address and claim to have expertise

Also in the USA you can 'buy" doctors degrees from some dodgy organizations

 

[leichhardtjunior]

So many new daily cases. Amazing. And those dirty unvaxxed are spreading this like wildfire. It must be them. Even though they make up just 10% of society. How is it even possible ?
It surely couldn't be the noble double vaxxed doing the spreading, could it ?
The WT employee last week. He tested positive, but how is that possible ? He wasn't a dirty conspiracy head, he was a double vaxxer !!! All the staff are double vaxxers !!! How on earth could it spread ?
And we were told that herd immunity kicked in at . . . was it 60% ? . . . but here we are at 90% and all of a sudden we have to doubt the information that was forced down our throats ??!!!
I'm waiting for the Nobel prize winning mensa grads to suggest the spread of cases is due to restrictions being eased at 9.00am this morning.

You’re making too much sense GYGT’s.
And these people are not in the market for anything, factual or probable, that threatens THEIR narrative.
It’s sad that they can’t see reason, but some people just need to piss on the electric fence for themselves 🤷‍♂️

 

[leichhardtjunior]

It is looking more and more likely not getting the vax is the right decision. I am happy I stayed strong and didn’t follow the hurd. Mask wearing and social distancing is the only way to avoid Omicron at the stage. We still don’t know the long term effects of the vax on the body, this whole thing has been a huge cluster$&@$&.

7 cases in hospital, all are not fully vaccinated. But if you want to not be vaccinated then it's up to you. Most of the people who contract it who are vaccinated just do home isolation. Make of that as you will.

Thanks for confirming that it’s my choice Swag, appreciate it. Feel much better. I’m glad you’re coming round.