Cricket Season Thread
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@Jazza said:
Number 6? Not a chance. If he played he'd be coming at 8 at best after 6 real batsmen and Haddin
Marshall_magic
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Warner
Hughes
Khawaja
Ponting
Clarke
Hussey
Haddin
Cutting
Copeland
Siddle
Lyon
-Siddle and Haddin stay because of the injury toll, to stop us making too many changes between matches. If Siddle fails in this game he gets chopped for Cummins, give Haddin the series, if he doesn't score runs, axe him for Wade for the India series.
-If Warner or Hughes don't fire this series, Marsh and/or Watson replace them at the top. If Ponting has a poor series, bring one of them in down the order.
-Johnson doesn't get a free pass back to the side, if the bowlers all perform he can play shield cricket
-As big of a Harris fan as I am, I'm over him breaking down, time to move on I think. He misses more games than he plays.
It's a worrying sign when Siddle is going to be leading our attack, the guy tries hard but he just doesn't have any talent. If Johnson had half of Siddle's ticker he'd be right up there with Steyn for world's best bowler.
Hughes
Khawaja
Ponting
Clarke
Hussey
Haddin
Cutting
Copeland
Siddle
Lyon
-Siddle and Haddin stay because of the injury toll, to stop us making too many changes between matches. If Siddle fails in this game he gets chopped for Cummins, give Haddin the series, if he doesn't score runs, axe him for Wade for the India series.
-If Warner or Hughes don't fire this series, Marsh and/or Watson replace them at the top. If Ponting has a poor series, bring one of them in down the order.
-Johnson doesn't get a free pass back to the side, if the bowlers all perform he can play shield cricket
-As big of a Harris fan as I am, I'm over him breaking down, time to move on I think. He misses more games than he plays.
It's a worrying sign when Siddle is going to be leading our attack, the guy tries hard but he just doesn't have any talent. If Johnson had half of Siddle's ticker he'd be right up there with Steyn for world's best bowler.
@Jazza said:
Ah that makes more sense now! In any case I think he might be considered too green for this test (I know they picked Cummin but that was after he played 20/20). Personally I think on form he's deserves a shot and lord knows Hilfenhaus has had a thousand goes and done stuff all. Given Starc has played some international games I'm thinking he might be a good chance. So many injuries though means this will be one of the more interesting selections.
Bazzinator
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ok what do we do if warner and hughes put on a 200+ opening stand in the first innings and 100+ in the seconf plus khawaja and punter making 60+ in both innings. where does this leave watson and marsh. It will be very hard to drop anyone realistically
bowling wise cummins and lyon are the only two guaranteed 1st test against india barring injury of course the other two will come from johnson, harris, cutting, siddle, pattinson, copeland and starc plus chuck in doug bollinger if he gets fit by then. anyones guess but we need wicket takers but dont go for runs as well as scoring runs with the bat very hard to settle that debate
bowling wise cummins and lyon are the only two guaranteed 1st test against india barring injury of course the other two will come from johnson, harris, cutting, siddle, pattinson, copeland and starc plus chuck in doug bollinger if he gets fit by then. anyones guess but we need wicket takers but dont go for runs as well as scoring runs with the bat very hard to settle that debate
People have made runs and been dropped when the injured guys come back. It would be a nice dilemma to have though! In any case make runs now and there are at least 2 long term spots coming up
Bazzinator
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of course watson would come back in but would you leave the opening pair the same which gives watson a chance down the order hence more bowling options if he can. that could spell another rest for khawaja and marsh in sheild
Bazzinator
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squad for match
clarke ©
haddin (vc)
cutting
hughes
hussey
khawaja
lyon
pattinson
ponting
siddle
starc
warner
at least 3 debutants will be playing with a 4th as 12th man lot of pressure on siddle and surprised no copeland
clarke ©
haddin (vc)
cutting
hughes
hussey
khawaja
lyon
pattinson
ponting
siddle
starc
warner
at least 3 debutants will be playing with a 4th as 12th man lot of pressure on siddle and surprised no copeland
Maybe Pattinson 12th man? You'd think it's either him or Cutting
Hughes
Warner
Khawaja
Ponting
Clarke
Hussey
Haddin
Cutting
Siddle
Starc
Lyon
Hughes
Warner
Khawaja
Ponting
Clarke
Hussey
Haddin
Cutting
Siddle
Starc
Lyon
Im almost certain Cutting will play, given the form his is in, his home ground and a chance to strengthen up the lower order with no Johnson there.
After that I would say its between Pattinson and Starc, I feel Pattinson is more ready, but with Starc's height, being a left armer and the fact he has played an ODI there, he may sneak in ahead of Pattinson.
After that I would say its between Pattinson and Starc, I feel Pattinson is more ready, but with Starc's height, being a left armer and the fact he has played an ODI there, he may sneak in ahead of Pattinson.
What an amazing finish in the Windies v India test. Scores level and India 9 down at the end of the match. On the last ball they ran 1 and were run out going for the second.
Marshall_magic
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@Bazzinator said:
Back to shield cricket and win back their spots I guess. I don't think it does any good for the new guys in the side if you tell them "you get this game and then we're going to drop you for Marsh/Watson again." They need to be given an incentive to perform.
I think Starc may be the player that misses out. Good to see 3 new boys picked but. Hilfenhaus hasn't performed when he was given the chance.
Hopefully Warner performs. Could make things very interesting with Hughes, Watson's batting position and than whether Ponting and Hussey can stay in the side.
Hopefully Warner performs. Could make things very interesting with Hughes, Watson's batting position and than whether Ponting and Hussey can stay in the side.
Looks like NSW have produced another top young cricket gun with Kurtis Patterson scoring 154 off 189 balls, the youngest batsman to score a century in the Shield.
I wonder if its a sign of the talent pool NSW have or the weakness of the other Shield sides that youngsters coming through arent getting tested enough.
I wonder if its a sign of the talent pool NSW have or the weakness of the other Shield sides that youngsters coming through arent getting tested enough.
happy_tiger
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@Jazza said:
My opinion Jazza there are few quality shield bowlers that are anything near what shield quality has been the last 15 years
I think we may see how weak our back up actually is and we are damn lucky this isn't an Ashes test or a match V Indians or South Africans or we would be flat out getting 10 wickets for the match let alone in one innings
@happy tiger said:
Yeh Im thinking the same thing, we have a lot of promising youngsters but we dont seem to have a lot of seasoned campaigners. I mean we dont have guys like Andy Bichel and Michael Kasprowicz who may not have been top international players but they were damn good Shield players who tested all batsmen, especially young one's.
I guess this is where our lack of quality at the top level is filtering through Shield and Club cricket. If we had some quality up at the top, then guys like Pattinson, etc would have more time to learn their trade and improve whilst still playing Shield. This in turn would develop better batsman at Shield level.
Just think for example if we didnt have Warne, McGrath and Gillespie playing at all, then Bichel and Kasprowicz would of been in the national side more and the gaping hole would be felt not only at the national level, but also at Shield level because some lesser bowlers would be making things easier for the Shield batsman.
So I guess at the end of the day, its all good to have depth but if you have quality at the top level then that in itself will produce depth and it will be filtered through at Shield level.
TigersFan4Life
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I have a feeling these two NZ tests are going to be a lot more competitive than most people think. Not saying they'll win, but I won't be surprised if one of them ends as a draw.
As for Watson, he'll be straight back in the team as soon as he's fit. He's been our best batsman and shouldn't have to re-earn his place in the team. As for Marsh, that depends on how Uzi, Hughes and Warner play.
Just want to add, I feel sorry for Doug Bollinger. CA really screwed him around last summer with that IPL crap. He took 4 wickets in the 1st innings of a Shield game a couple weeks ago and then injured his ankle early in the 2nd inning. Surely, he would have been picked if fit? Hopefully he doesn't turn into another Stuart Clark, although I fear his time is already over.
As for Watson, he'll be straight back in the team as soon as he's fit. He's been our best batsman and shouldn't have to re-earn his place in the team. As for Marsh, that depends on how Uzi, Hughes and Warner play.
Just want to add, I feel sorry for Doug Bollinger. CA really screwed him around last summer with that IPL crap. He took 4 wickets in the 1st innings of a Shield game a couple weeks ago and then injured his ankle early in the 2nd inning. Surely, he would have been picked if fit? Hopefully he doesn't turn into another Stuart Clark, although I fear his time is already over.
tig_prmz
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