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Aren't they the pretzels Marge was selling on The Simpsons? But yeah we're up against the Zimbos featuring Ray Price…
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Aren't they the pretzels Marge was selling on The Simpsons? But yeah we're up against the Zimbos featuring Ray Price…
Marshall_magic
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This draw is a joke. Game 4 on tonight and it's another top 8 team vs minnow. When do we get to see a quality level game, Kenya/NZ, Bangas/India, Canada/Lankans and now Aus/Zimbo, can't we get 1 big game early? I guess the subbies may want to get the easy wins out of the way after what happened to India and Pakistan at the last world cup.
@Yossarian said:
Haha yeah they were Yoss, but yeah the Zimbabweans are whitey whackers too.
@Marshall_magic said:
Thats the whole idea of this draw, so the top teams can get to the knockout stages.
For the minnows to get to the next stage, instead of causing one upset like in 07, they will have to cause at least 3-4 upsets.
Its basically the same as the 1996 World Cup draw, where they had 2 groups of 6 with the top 4 from each group playing in the quarter finals, therefore really making the group stages pointless.
I'm not sure what the format is for the next world cup but with the minnows gone, I would like to see the same format as the 1992 World Cup, where that simply was one group of 8 (It'll be 10 at the next world cup) with the top 4 making the semis. That way at least every team plays each other and the top teams will play in the semis.
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@Jazza said:
Yeah, but they could have had India/NZ or India/South Africa as an opener, not India/Bangladesh. There are 4 of the test playing nations (not including Bangladesh who are maybe a 5% chance of progressing), why do we need all these squash matches in the first week, it's going to kill interest. It's not until the 7th game that we get 2 of the teams expected to progress playing each other (South Africa/West Indies).
Marshall_magic
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very disappointing performance with the bat from the Aussies. Probably about 50 runs short of what we should have posted. We will win comfortably, but that was some ridiculously conservative batting considering we were playing Zimbarbwe.
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@Jazza said:
I couldn't think of a worse structure than the 2015 world cup in Aus/NZ. 10 teams play each other once. It will take forever to get through the opening round and so many games will mean absolutely nothing. It will be pretty obvious which teams are going to get to the semi finals by halfway through but the tournament will just drag on and on, putting everyone to sleep!
Give me a tournament of 16 teams, 4 pools of 4\. Top 2 go through to the next round, 2 pools of 4\. Then 2 semis and the final. Each game will be so important You'll be wanting to know the result of every game, not just the ones your team is playing in. Lower ranked teams will get a few games, with at least some chance of moving to the next round. There will still be plenty of games between the top teams… as long as they actually perform!
But no, ICC want to maximise their TV revenue! Can't risk India getting bundled out early... By the way, I saw that Cricket Australia have said that the ICC did all the TV rights negotiations for this tournament. I guess CA are getting a fair bit of criticism about channel 9 not showing full games...
@Juro said:
I feel the same about your structure!! 4 pools of 4 means the tournament will begin with minnows galore. Plus 16 teams means 1/2 the teams will be minnows and thats not even including West Indies and New Zealand. Not only that but with that many teams with that format, you are still going to get about the same amount of matches in total, there may be less games for each individual team but in total with all those teams, the total will be about the same. But instead of top teams playing each other, you are going to get minnows playing each other and top teams playing minnows to begin with.
With 1 group of 10, there might be 2 teams that dominate near the top and 2 teams that may struggle, but it creates a great scrap to nab the final places in the semis. It also mean the tournament kicks off with quality match ups and continues with quality match ups.
If you look at the same format for the 92 World Cup, Pakistan nabbed the final semi spot by a point gained from a washout game they certainly would of lost. Also if West Indies won their final group match against Australia, they would of went in ahead of Pakistan, and if Pakistan lost their final group game then Australia would of went through.
Thats what I mean in that a 1 group format still makes every game vital, has the top teams playing each other all the time and creates a great scrap for the final semi spots.
Marshall_magic
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The 10 team tournament should be done with 2 pools of 5, play everyone once, top 2 go through to the semis, winners there go into a best of 3 final series. 7-8 matches for the winners, every game will be vital (so teams don't slip out of the top 2).
No doubt they'll go with 1 pool of 10, followed by quarters, semis and a final.
Also, if it's 10 teams, every country that fails to make the semis at this world cup should have to qualify (Aus/NZ should auto-qualify as they are hosts), If that means 1 or 2 big guns miss out, so be it.
No doubt they'll go with 1 pool of 10, followed by quarters, semis and a final.
Also, if it's 10 teams, every country that fails to make the semis at this world cup should have to qualify (Aus/NZ should auto-qualify as they are hosts), If that means 1 or 2 big guns miss out, so be it.
Marshall_magic
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Holland just put 290 odd on the board agaisnt the Poms. Ryan Ten Doeschate with a run a ball century.
biggest_tigers_fan
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@Marshall_magic said:
Yep how good was it the poms were rattled dropping catches,getting wickets but only had 3 fielders in the circle,schoolboy stuff really but just shows how bad we played in the ashes.
:deadhorse:
Marshall_magic
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@biggest tigers fan said:
If it's any consolation, Cook doesn't play ODIs, he did lots of the damage in the Ashes.
@Marshall_magic said:
Id hate that if they have quarter finals with a 10 team tournament, it basically turns it into the old school ICC Knockout tournament they used to have except each team will have to play 9 matches, basically turning the round matches into warm up games. Knowing how the administrators work, that's probably what would happen though.
Strong start to England's response. Good batting by Strauss, as the captain he has obviously decided its up to him to swing the momentum back to his team.
Still it was good to see them struggle in the field, you could tell Ian Botham was getting very frustrated and furious in the commentary box…. Good to see!
Marshall_magic
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Very convincing win over the kiwis tonight, Canada, Kenya, Pakistan and Sri Lanka to come still in the group stage, beat 1 of the subbies and the 2 minnows we probably finish top 2 in the group, giving us a likely QF against the West Indies or England (unless one of them finish above India or South Africa).
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im watching ireland vs bangladesh now, live on foxsports. i hope ireland win! :slight_smile:
ireland need 206 to win and they are currently 2 for 59 after 14.3 overs…. not too bad...
ireland need 206 to win and they are currently 2 for 59 after 14.3 overs…. not too bad...
tig_prmz
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As I predicted Pakistan will be the dark horses, they just beat one of the favourite teams to win the comp in their country.
Watchout for the crowd if there is ever an India vs Pakistan game. Indians will go ballistic over there!!!!!!! If it is the final, which I hope not between these 2, well…
Watchout for the crowd if there is ever an India vs Pakistan game. Indians will go ballistic over there!!!!!!! If it is the final, which I hope not between these 2, well…
Marshall_magic
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@tig_prmz said:
Pakistan winning was a great result for the Aussies. Sri Lanka will not lose to any of the minnows, or NZ in our pool. The only teams who could beat them in there are us and Pakistan. If they beat Pakistan we'd have to beat them to finish above them. Pakistan are a lot more irratic, they won't win 7/7 in the group stage. If we beat Pakistan and don't get blown off the park by SL, we'll probably get top spot in the group and get a QF against the Windies, England or Bangladesh.
@tig_prmz said:
I'm convinced there will be riots in that game.
Particularly if India get hammered!
Last time the 2 sides met in a World Cup was in 03, India won thanks to the little master, yet despite that, Dravid's house was vandalised, and effigies of Ganguly were burnt because they failed individually.
tig_prmz
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Haha I remember that game, I was in India for that game and was quite young. People were going crazy. At 8-9 at night, you would expect the streets to be full, but every town (except for where it was being played) was empty as every1 was at home watching the game.
When India won, the whole country erupted, there were people everywhere and well one of the best moments of my life TBH.
When India won, the whole country erupted, there were people everywhere and well one of the best moments of my life TBH.
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