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@innsaneink said:
@Geo. said:
**Can't coach attitude..**…

If he does play rep football....good luck to him....

He did with Lima.
He was a lazy plodding reserve grader here….rep player now.

Fair enough….....I think a lot of that came from Lima himself....Oh and the fact that their whole pack from 07 to 08 where rep players.....White, Cross, Smith, Hoffman, Blair, Kafusi, Johnson, Croker....missed anyone?

It's Sheens job to get the best out of his players.....but in Laurie's case.....the player has got to want it himself...not just expect it to be handed to him....

I still can't get the first game back for Wests against the Windsor Wolves after he was dropped out of my head.....It summed it up for me.....
 
@Old Bluebag said:
Yep,it's all very sad and let's hope that it works out well for all parties. As a lot of the story is coming from that "Daily Telegraph" rag who knows what the truth is. All they want to do is sell newspapers, and as RL is the subject people want to read about they'll make things as lurid as they can to attract a reading audience. I don't think that they have a partricular interest in RL as such, and I sometimes think that they'd write up nude dwarf jelly-wrestling if they thought that it'd help sell newspapers.

100% right there bluebag… Even though the DT's parent company has a controlling interest in the sport, all the DT, headed by none other than the illustrious Phil Rothfield, seem to print negative stories and shoot the sport down without properly trying to promote the league with good stories.

Before anyone tries to jump in, the little column in the DT main game that covers maybe a paragraph on the good stuff a team does each week doesn't cut it... And the odd puff piece such as Jamie Simpson overcoming cancer and Blake Ferguson coming from a rough background to play first grade is patronism in its purest form. They're great stories, but the don't make the DT unless its an eventless day.
 
@Balmain Bug said:
@Suzie-Q said:
Domestic violence occurs in at least 1/3 of Australian households - and are not restricted to low SES areas. :unamused: I can't believe people still use that old wives' tale - that bad things only happen in poor households. It's rot. Violence is wrong - end of. Against women, men, children, the disabled, the elderly, the Aussie-born and those who come here. Domestic violence is a stain on the human race. I hope he is innocent, because the thought of someone of his size and strength being violent towards a woman in a household with children, just scares the living daylights out of me.

I agree with you Suzie Q. I worded my comment wrong. What I meant is that with pressures of life and low income etc, it can be more prevalant in those house holds. I know it happens in all types of house holds. In no way do I condone any type of violence what so ever, but as human beings we are all a product of society and our upbringings. Domestic Assault can be as little as a push away. For instance the complainant might say to attending police "he has pushed me". That is an assault. What is clear here is that there is no Actual bodily harm as he would have been charged with that. So I hope that is a saving grace.
**If he is guilty of Common assault, he cant be dropped like a hotcake. The allegation that faced Anthony Laffranchi and that currently faces Brett Stewart is 100 times worse.**

If guilty, Hopefully the club can place Daine in a program which can help him with managing issues at home including stress related things that cause domestic violence.

I agree, BB, that sexual assault is much, much worse. I hope the truth comes out, and that everyone is OK in the end.

I grew up in a fairly well off, middle class area, yet still grew up in a domestic violence situation, so, I am sorry for jumping on my high horse. I now teach children in a very low SES area, with one of the highest rates of dom. violence and drug and alcohol dependence in the state. I see the end, or more like halfway, result of domestic violence every day, and if, as a whole society, we don't do something about it, God only knows what kind of world we will be leaving our kids. Isn't there an old saying about it takes a whole village to raise a child?? Pity the "village" doesn't support the child much anymore ….
 
Stewart - Sexual Assault - Still playing for Manly
Inglis - Assault - Still playing for Storm
Watmough - Assault? (Cant remember what happened with this one) - Still playing for Manly

I'm not defending what he did, just pointing out that others have done worse and looks whats happened..
 
@djm619 said:
Stewart - Sexual Assault - Still playing for Manly
Inglis - Assault - Still playing for Storm
Watmough - Assault? (Cant remember what happened with this one) - Still playing for Manly

I'm not defending what he did, just pointing out that others have done worse and looks whats happened..

Not any different to the Newcastle incident at Bathurst a few years ago. Some Newcastle "stars" were involved but only one young guy got the chop and went to Canberra for a bigger and brighter future. "Stars" will always have the upper-hand as the club would never let them go to someone else. The NRL step in these days but only for a short period - case in point Todd Carney. The NRL stopped other clubs signing him only for one year. Next year he is playing for the Rorters.
 
@djm619 said:
Stewart - Sexual Assault - Still playing for Manly
Inglis - Assault - Still playing for Storm
Watmough - Assault? (Cant remember what happened with this one) - Still playing for Manly

I'm not defending what he did, just pointing out that others have done worse and looks whats happened..

Maybe but just because other clubs (and I put Manly at the top of the list) are prepared to ignore these things, doesn't mean we should stoop to their level. You may recall when we bounced Hoppa he found a welcome home at Brookvale the same year - like nothing had ever happened.

Personally I think Humphries has handled the situation as well as could be hoped for. It may turn out that Laurie has no case to answer but at this stage I think the club is doing what needs to be done.
 
@cqtiger said:
@djm619 said:
Stewart - Sexual Assault - Still playing for Manly
Inglis - Assault - Still playing for Storm
Watmough - Assault? (Cant remember what happened with this one) - Still playing for Manly

I'm not defending what he did, just pointing out that others have done worse and looks whats happened..

Not any different to the Newcastle incident at Bathurst a few years ago. Some Newcastle "stars" were involved but only one young guy got the chop and went to Canberra for a bigger and brighter future. "Stars" will always have the upper-hand as the club would never let them go to someone else. The NRL step in these days but only for a short period - case in point Todd Carney. The NRL stopped other clubs signing him only for one year. Next year he is playing for the Rorters.

Daine laurie's incident is nothing like the bathurst incident.

1) daine called the police himself
2) he stated that she got hurt when he was trying to restrain her from hitting him
3) he rang club officals immediatly after the police were called

and what does he get for doing all this? the sack.
 
@anderson silva said:
@cqtiger said:
@djm619 said:
Stewart - Sexual Assault - Still playing for Manly
Inglis - Assault - Still playing for Storm
Watmough - Assault? (Cant remember what happened with this one) - Still playing for Manly

I'm not defending what he did, just pointing out that others have done worse and looks whats happened..

Not any different to the Newcastle incident at Bathurst a few years ago. Some Newcastle "stars" were involved but only one young guy got the chop and went to Canberra for a bigger and brighter future. "Stars" will always have the upper-hand as the club would never let them go to someone else. The NRL step in these days but only for a short period - case in point Todd Carney. The NRL stopped other clubs signing him only for one year. Next year he is playing for the Rorters.

Daine laurie's incident is nothing like the bathurst incident.

1) daine called the police himself
2) he stated that she got hurt when he was trying to restrain her from hitting him
3) he rang club officals immediatly after the police were called

and what does he get for doing all this? the sack.

If what you're saying is true. The police charged him didn't they?
 
@anderson silva said:
@cqtiger said:
@djm619 said:
Stewart - Sexual Assault - Still playing for Manly
Inglis - Assault - Still playing for Storm
Watmough - Assault? (Cant remember what happened with this one) - Still playing for Manly

I'm not defending what he did, just pointing out that others have done worse and looks whats happened..

Not any different to the Newcastle incident at Bathurst a few years ago. Some Newcastle "stars" were involved but only one young guy got the chop and went to Canberra for a bigger and brighter future. "Stars" will always have the upper-hand as the club would never let them go to someone else. The NRL step in these days but only for a short period - case in point Todd Carney. The NRL stopped other clubs signing him only for one year. Next year he is playing for the Rorters.

Daine laurie's incident is nothing like the bathurst incident.

1) daine called the police himself
2) he stated that she got hurt when he was trying to restrain her from hitting him
3) he rang club officals immediatly after the police were called

and what does he get for doing all this? the sack.

well if all that is accurate, then he did everything right really, hopefully it'll all be cleared up soonish
 
All this incident did was disadvantage the wests magpies. Feel for the rest of the team who have worked hard all year to get to this point. Anyway we are a team of strong character and will bounce back. IMO Daine should have been allowed to play. He did all the right things but for some reason was still dropped by wests tigers management. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty. Bet Benji would not have been dropped.
 
Regardless of what procedure he followed that were correct he has still been charged with a criminal offence and a suspension by the club is in line with NRL standard for this season.
 
I say we nrl have to take each case on its merrits rather then doing what the police do with there blanket approach on it.

If the police get called to a address for domestic violence the person that didnt call the police will always get charged.

Most of these cases go to court and you get a slap on the wrist or a AVO SPECIALLY IF ITS YOUR FIRST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROBLEM.

No big deal and people shouldnt make a mountain out of a mole hill.
 
@tiger4ever said:
I say we nrl have to take each case on its merrits rather then doing what the police do with there blanket approach on it.

If the police get called to a address for domestic violence the person that didnt call the police will always get charged.

Most of these cases go to court and you get a slap on the wrist or a AVO SPECIALLY IF ITS YOUR FIRST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROBLEM.

No big deal and people shouldnt make a mountain out of a mole hill.

You dont think the fact that Laurie has been to gaol previously for assault may influence any court sentencing?

Glenn
 
Depending on what he done time for if its totally unrelated and a minor crime i would say it wouldnt matter.But it would depend on circumstances.
 
A very talented young player who looks like hes going to throw is chance at being great away. Hopefully he can learn form this and go on to fill his potential
 
@Glennb said:
@tiger4ever said:
I say we nrl have to take each case on its merrits rather then doing what the police do with there blanket approach on it.

If the police get called to a address for domestic violence the person that didnt call the police will always get charged.

Most of these cases go to court and you get a slap on the wrist or a AVO SPECIALLY IF ITS YOUR FIRST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROBLEM.

No big deal and people shouldnt make a mountain out of a mole hill.

You dont think the fact that Laurie has been to gaol previously for assault may influence any court sentencing?

Glenn

Have you got link for that?
 
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