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@TheDaBoss said in [Departing players](/post/1236008) said:Erin moylan
@momo_amp_medo said in [Departing players](/post/1235978) said:@TigerSJ said in [Departing players](/post/1235976) said:Seriously not Moylan please!!!
Think Kei and Cini will be on development contracts for 2021 which means there are possibly 3 spots available in NRL squad, if noone else on that list moves on.
Actually only Hoffman is.
@momo_amp_medo said in [Departing players](/post/1235980) said:@jadtiger said in [Departing players](/post/1235979) said:@momo_amp_medo said in [Departing players](/post/1235972) said:I know many will disagree but for me Matt Moylan is a better fullback than anything we have at the moment.
From reports Cronulla is willing to offload with +50% freight included. If we could organise a Mbye trade we could offer 2 year deal. I would take a risk .......
Anyway my thoughts for next year and beyond
Moses Mbye (Matt Moylan who covers quite a few backline positions would be my pick if we can get a trade deal)
Josh Aldo Carr
Adam Doueihi
Joseph Leilua (Kotoni Stagg should be the player we go after as 2021 replacement)
DescriptionDescription(Kotoni Stagg should be replacement at end of next season)
David Nofoaluma
Josh Reynolds (Matt Burton if we can offload Reynolds OR not ..... we should go all out for this guy .... future is as a ball playing lock forward)
Luke Brooks
James Tamou (c)
Jason Liddle (Harry Grant If Smith plays on for one more year and retireS when Bellamy leaves)
Zane Musgrove
Sam McIntyre
Luciano Leilua
Shawn Blore
Josh Aloiai
Russell Packer (Jack Hetherington (if we can offload Packer)
Thomas Mikaele
Alex Twal
Stefano Utoikamanu
Jake Simpkin
Luke Garner (Bunty Afoa from Warriors would be good replacement if Garner leaves)
Michael Chee Kam (Tukimihia Simpkins from Cowboys is an upgrade if we can move MCK)
Tommy Talau
Jock Madden
Asu Kepaoa
Billy Walters
Paul Momirovski
Zac Cini
Kane Bradley
William Kei
One available spot ???
Development Contract
Reece Hoffman
Moylan would be of no use to us,a big no thanks
I recon he has more pluses than Mbye and that was my whole point.
@Geo said in [Departing players](/post/1235904) said:@pawsandclaws1 said in [Departing players](/post/1235893) said:@Magpie1969 said in [Departing players](/post/1235885) said:I can see so much upside with AJ as others have articulated. BJ a seasoned player is where I hold concerns about. Sticky obviously saw him as weak link at the Raiders and now he is our problem to solve.
He's 28? Move him on to the UK. I'd rather see Kepaoa at right centre making rookie mistakes than Leilua making the same dumb mistakes he has made all his career.
Do you think it is really that simple as punching a TRADE Rage button..simply move a player with a young family to an environment the UK in Covid times where even extra cash which use to be an incentive no longer exists..
Leilua was also a Maguire signing ..brought specifically by Maguire to strengthen a weakness on decent coin..not in the not his team category..
@Russell said in [Departing players](/post/1235754) said:@cochise said in [Departing players](/post/1235610) said:@pawsandclaws1 said in [Departing players](/post/1235598) said:@cochise said in [Departing players](/post/1235593) said:@pawsandclaws1 said in [Departing players](/post/1235592) said:@cochise said in [Departing players](/post/1235589) said:@pawsandclaws1 said in [Departing players](/post/1235586) said:@boonboon said in [Departing players](/post/1235522) said:If AJ Hands like feet Kepoa is our starting winger we are in trouble. He has blown 2 tries every week because he can't catch a pass.
My starting backline at this stage is
Mbye
JAC
B
Douehi
Nofa
Reynolds
Brooks
Leilua? He should not be anywhere near the NRL.
He will be.
And that's why we are where we are.
He is better than our other options.
Pity Momerovski is not with us.
I see Momerovski and Doueihi as similar players and don't see there being room for them both in the centres. Doueihi is a faster, bigger and better version of Moemrovski so he would get one centre spot in my opinion.
Think you are on the wrong track, there is a similarity but they are really different as well. Guess you would say the same if we had Lomax.
They both can find their way to the line - I would love to have both of them, AD at centre or 5/8, Momo in the other slot.
Then you have the problem of what to do with BJ.... he is not a forward.
@Moh said in [Departing players](/post/1236036) said:@Geo said in [Departing players](/post/1235904) said:@pawsandclaws1 said in [Departing players](/post/1235893) said:@Magpie1969 said in [Departing players](/post/1235885) said:I can see so much upside with AJ as others have articulated. BJ a seasoned player is where I hold concerns about. Sticky obviously saw him as weak link at the Raiders and now he is our problem to solve.
He's 28? Move him on to the UK. I'd rather see Kepaoa at right centre making rookie mistakes than Leilua making the same dumb mistakes he has made all his career.
Do you think it is really that simple as punching a TRADE Rage button..simply move a player with a young family to an environment the UK in Covid times where even extra cash which use to be an incentive no longer exists..
Leilua was also a Maguire signing ..brought specifically by Maguire to strengthen a weakness on decent coin..not in the not his team category..
Don't remember many qualms about BJ's signing at the time.
He needs more ball for us to get something out of him. A couple of games he went looking for it and made some great carries. Obviously defensively he has struggled.
@TigerSJ said in [Departing players](/post/1236015) said:@momo_amp_medo said in [Departing players](/post/1235978) said:@TigerSJ said in [Departing players](/post/1235976) said:Seriously not Moylan please!!!
Think Kei and Cini will be on development contracts for 2021 which means there are possibly 3 spots available in NRL squad, if noone else on that list moves on.
Actually only Hoffman is.
Hey momo - if you are sure about this (seems to be some conflicting views),that means that there is only 1 free spot in our top 30 for next season, assuming JAC is counted in and Sam M re-signed but not Huth.
We really must use this spot for a Hetherington type forward for next season.
@FinestTigers said in [Departing players](/post/1235953) said:Maguire knows that the tree needs pruning before the next season, and he could have ripped out the dead wood with his bare hands, BUT he knows that he needs to do it diligently with a pruner and also to not get stung by the bees, and WHEN most of the dead wood has been cleared THEN you can see the BEAUTY of the new growth and the MIGHT of the TIGERS.
@Moh said in [Departing players](/post/1236036) said:@Geo said in [Departing players](/post/1235904) said:@pawsandclaws1 said in [Departing players](/post/1235893) said:@Magpie1969 said in [Departing players](/post/1235885) said:I can see so much upside with AJ as others have articulated. BJ a seasoned player is where I hold concerns about. Sticky obviously saw him as weak link at the Raiders and now he is our problem to solve.
He's 28? Move him on to the UK. I'd rather see Kepaoa at right centre making rookie mistakes than Leilua making the same dumb mistakes he has made all his career.
Do you think it is really that simple as punching a TRADE Rage button..simply move a player with a young family to an environment the UK in Covid times where even extra cash which use to be an incentive no longer exists..
Leilua was also a Maguire signing ..brought specifically by Maguire to strengthen a weakness on decent coin..not in the not his team category..
Don't remember many qualms about BJ's signing at the time.
He needs more ball for us to get something out of him. A couple of games he went looking for it and made some great carries. Obviously defensively he has struggled.
@Geo said in [Departing players](/post/1236006) said:Moylan needs an exit interview before entry..
@851 said in [Departing players](/post/1236046) said:@Moh said in [Departing players](/post/1236036) said:@Geo said in [Departing players](/post/1235904) said:@pawsandclaws1 said in [Departing players](/post/1235893) said:@Magpie1969 said in [Departing players](/post/1235885) said:I can see so much upside with AJ as others have articulated. BJ a seasoned player is where I hold concerns about. Sticky obviously saw him as weak link at the Raiders and now he is our problem to solve.
He's 28? Move him on to the UK. I'd rather see Kepaoa at right centre making rookie mistakes than Leilua making the same dumb mistakes he has made all his career.
Do you think it is really that simple as punching a TRADE Rage button..simply move a player with a young family to an environment the UK in Covid times where even extra cash which use to be an incentive no longer exists..
Leilua was also a Maguire signing ..brought specifically by Maguire to strengthen a weakness on decent coin..not in the not his team category..
Don't remember many qualms about BJ's signing at the time.
He needs more ball for us to get something out of him. A couple of games he went looking for it and made some great carries. Obviously defensively he has struggled.
Exactly, the only time he looked good this year was when Benji wasn't in the team, Grub gave him clean early ball, Benji runs across field and jams him up for room
@momo_amp_medo said in [Departing players](/post/1235972) said:I know many will disagree but for me Matt Moylan is a better fullback than anything we have at the moment.
From reports Cronulla is willing to offload with +50% freight included. If we could organise a Mbye trade we could offer 2 year deal. I would take a risk .......
Anyway my thoughts for next year and beyond
Moses Mbye (Matt Moylan who covers quite a few backline positions would be my pick if we can get a trade deal)
Josh Aldo Carr
Adam Doueihi
Joseph Leilua (Kotoni Stagg should be the player we go after as 2021 replacement)
DescriptionDescription(Kotoni Stagg should be replacement at end of next season)
David Nofoaluma
Josh Reynolds (Matt Burton if we can offload Reynolds OR not ..... we should go all out for this guy .... future is as a ball playing lock forward)
Luke Brooks
James Tamou (c)
Jason Liddle (Harry Grant If Smith plays on for one more year and retireS when Bellamy leaves)
Zane Musgrove
Sam McIntyre
Luciano Leilua
Shawn Blore
Josh Aloiai
Russell Packer (Jack Hetherington (if we can offload Packer)
Thomas Mikaele
Alex Twal
Stefano Utoikamanu
Jake Simpkin
Luke Garner (Bunty Afoa from Warriors would be good replacement if Garner leaves)
Michael Chee Kam (Tukimihia Simpkins from Cowboys is an upgrade if we can move MCK)
Tommy Talau
Jock Madden
Asu Kepaoa
Billy Walters
Paul Momirovski
Zac Cini
Kane Bradley
William Kei
One available spot ???
Development Contract
Reece Hoffman
@mike said in [Departing players](/post/1236071) said:@momo_amp_medo said in [Departing players](/post/1235972) said:I know many will disagree but for me Matt Moylan is a better fullback than anything we have at the moment.
From reports Cronulla is willing to offload with +50% freight included. If we could organise a Mbye trade we could offer 2 year deal. I would take a risk .......
Anyway my thoughts for next year and beyond
Moses Mbye (Matt Moylan who covers quite a few backline positions would be my pick if we can get a trade deal)
Josh Aldo Carr
Adam Doueihi
Joseph Leilua (Kotoni Stagg should be the player we go after as 2021 replacement)
DescriptionDescription(Kotoni Stagg should be replacement at end of next season)
David Nofoaluma
Josh Reynolds (Matt Burton if we can offload Reynolds OR not ..... we should go all out for this guy .... future is as a ball playing lock forward)
Luke Brooks
James Tamou (c)
Jason Liddle (Harry Grant If Smith plays on for one more year and retireS when Bellamy leaves)
Zane Musgrove
Sam McIntyre
Luciano Leilua
Shawn Blore
Josh Aloiai
Russell Packer (Jack Hetherington (if we can offload Packer)
Thomas Mikaele
Alex Twal
Stefano Utoikamanu
Jake Simpkin
Luke Garner (Bunty Afoa from Warriors would be good replacement if Garner leaves)
Michael Chee Kam (Tukimihia Simpkins from Cowboys is an upgrade if we can move MCK)
Tommy Talau
Jock Madden
Asu Kepaoa
Billy Walters
Paul Momirovski
Zac Cini
Kane Bradley
William Kei
One available spot ???
Development Contract
Reece Hoffman
You’re are right, I disagreed, Moylan is very overrated and not worth anywhere near what he is getting. Also injury prone. Besides he has one of the most punchable faces in the Rugby League
@voice_of_reason said in [Departing players](/post/1236068) said:Matt Moylan - perennially injured, suspected of substance issues, sleeps with a team-mates fiance (so no consideration of moral or team unity) and generally considered a brainless flog. Hard to judge his recent on-field performances as there's been none.
Signing no-one would be a better option.
@Cairnstigers said in [Departing players](/post/1236045) said:@FinestTigers said in [Departing players](/post/1235953) said:Maguire knows that the tree needs pruning before the next season, and he could have ripped out the dead wood with his bare hands, BUT he knows that he needs to do it diligently with a pruner and also to not get stung by the bees, and WHEN most of the dead wood has been cleared THEN you can see the BEAUTY of the new growth and the MIGHT of the TIGERS.
Sounds like you fertilising a bit to much
What we need is a Chainsaw, Woodchipper and Stump Grinder to fix this team
Then buy some propergated seedlings from commercial growers who have proven results
Then we know we will have a viable crop which produces juicy fruit
No more sour lemons
@mike said in [Departing players](/post/1236071) said:@momo_amp_medo said in [Departing players](/post/1235972) said:I know many will disagree but for me Matt Moylan is a better fullback than anything we have at the moment.
From reports Cronulla is willing to offload with +50% freight included. If we could organise a Mbye trade we could offer 2 year deal. I would take a risk .......
Anyway my thoughts for next year and beyond
Moses Mbye (Matt Moylan who covers quite a few backline positions would be my pick if we can get a trade deal)
Josh Aldo Carr
Adam Doueihi
Joseph Leilua (Kotoni Stagg should be the player we go after as 2021 replacement)
DescriptionDescription(Kotoni Stagg should be replacement at end of next season)
David Nofoaluma
Josh Reynolds (Matt Burton if we can offload Reynolds OR not ..... we should go all out for this guy .... future is as a ball playing lock forward)
Luke Brooks
James Tamou (c)
Jason Liddle (Harry Grant If Smith plays on for one more year and retireS when Bellamy leaves)
Zane Musgrove
Sam McIntyre
Luciano Leilua
Shawn Blore
Josh Aloiai
Russell Packer (Jack Hetherington (if we can offload Packer)
Thomas Mikaele
Alex Twal
Stefano Utoikamanu
Jake Simpkin
Luke Garner (Bunty Afoa from Warriors would be good replacement if Garner leaves)
Michael Chee Kam (Tukimihia Simpkins from Cowboys is an upgrade if we can move MCK)
Tommy Talau
Jock Madden
Asu Kepaoa
Billy Walters
Paul Momirovski
Zac Cini
Kane Bradley
William Kei
One available spot ???
Development Contract
Reece Hoffman
You’re are right, I disagreed, Moylan is very overrated and not worth anywhere near what he is getting. Also injury prone. Besides he has one of the most punchable faces in the Rugby League