Wonder how Izzy would feel coming back to a league full of drunken fornicators and adulterers?
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I am not getting into the Folau bashing as I do feel for the guy in a way ... family ties and the pressure brought to bare by the head of family’s can be very damaging to a person, unfortunately this is happening in this case especially with a person that is high profile. Yes he is an adult but we all know the pressure that families can bring to the table.
tig_prmz
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@Mccarry said in [Folau could be welcomed back \- Sky News](/post/1018646) said:
you can't say that...
Spud_Murphy
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@weststigers said in [Folau could be welcomed back \- Sky News](/post/1018591) said:
His dad didn't seriously say this did he? No sane Christian pastor would say something like this. Way too much emotional blackmail/manipulation going on there!
As for Izzy himself, I have no problem with him or his post, he can post whatever he likes. God it's nothing compared to some of the truly outrageous crap people put on social media, it was just a Bible verse - some will believe it, many won't.
If the wife beaters and drunk drivers of the football world (of which there are many) are still allowed to play the game, get kudos and earn a good living from their careers then Izzy should be as well. If he ends up playing in the NRL again then great, but I'm not sure I would want us to sign him now, purely because I think he's getting older and is past his best. He's been out of the game for a long time now and we've already signed too many players that are past their best, over the years, and it hasn't done us any good.
Danny Blanco
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@tig_prmz That's strike 1 @Mccarry
diedpretty
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@Danny-Blanco said in [Folau could be welcomed back \- Sky News](/post/1018790) said:
How come he didn't also say people with tattoos will also go to hell but fortunately i repented, although i didn't change my ways and have my tattoos removed.
Danny Blanco
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@diedpretty I don't know? I'm guessing because tattoos weren't in the Corinthians verse that he pulled the quote from.
The crazy thing is that if Folau had just posted the actual Bible Verse, he would probably not have gotten into any trouble.
The verse is actually as follows from Galatians. It doesn't mention the "H" words which got him sacked (Homosexual and Hell).
*Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God*
The verse is actually as follows from Galatians. It doesn't mention the "H" words which got him sacked (Homosexual and Hell).
*Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God*
Danny Blanco
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@Abraham it's from 1 Corinthians 6:9-11
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God".
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God".
happy_tiger
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@Abraham said in [Folau could be welcomed back \- Sky News](/post/1018839) said:
Bloody hell ....I need to pump out the hail Mary's next Sunday at church
weststigers
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@hodgo said in [Folau could be welcomed back \- Sky News](/post/1018799) said:
Yeah, I'm with you.
I just think you should separate the player from their opinions/beliefs.
Beattie talks about an "inclusive" sport, but it's not Folau's decision to include or exclude anyone. The NRL is inclusive full stop. Having a player in the game with certain views won't change that, the same way as having a member of society with certain views won't change how laws are made.
Including people with views that we don't like is more important than shutting them out.
There's a brilliant man by the name of Daryl Davis. He is a black musician and ant-racism activist. The man attends KKK rallies in the USA and becomes friends with these people. He truly embodies what it means to respect peoples right to free speech, even though you don't support their views. In the process, he has converted at least 200 white supremacists to leave the KKK, just by listening and befriending them. The lesson here is if both sides dig their heels in, it becomes trench warfare with no resolution in sight.
Have a look at a short video of him discussing his methods and watch his documentary "Accidental Courtesy" if you're interested to learn more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uoff4vWsnps
Don Kershane
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@happy_tiger St George fans try that every Sunday with minimal effect.
weststigers
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@Spud_Murphy said in [Folau could be welcomed back \- Sky News](/post/1018807) said:
Yeah, apparently he did...his Dad is more hard line that Izzy by the looks of it.
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