HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

[weststigers]

Do you work?

You must have an agenda with all your posts.

Night and day.

Must be really invested

Do you have a problem with my questions or with my post count? You seem to have gone off topic

Just wondering if anyone else has noticed every last one of these seemingly individual posters with exactly the same talking points seems to duck and evade answering anything directly?

Give us some credit.

 

[BZN]

Actually here is 1, a moderator guy.
Post in thread 'CEO - Shane Richardson' https://weststigersforum.com/threads/ceo-shane-richardson.35365/post-2208071

And, there are many others.

100% correct again LT.
A great bit of detective work.

Yes...a senior Forum guy setting the example and followed by>>HBG will install a stooge they know they can control.
Many X 10 the amount of similar posts by various posters.
Keep up the good work.

 

[LiverpoolTiger]

Do you have a problem with my questions or with my post count? You seem to have gone off topic

Just wondering if anyone else has noticed every last one of these seemingly individual posters with exactly the same talking points seems to duck and evade answering anything directly?

Give us some credit.

What question?

 

[weststigers]

That's a good question.

What if.....go with me on this....HBG understood AFTER removing the board members/PVL intervention that the independents were not directly responsible?

Or, what if there wasn't enough evidence to say they were responsible for setting up deals beyond the HBG view.

As a hypothetical - Richo & his good mate O'Farrell put together a 15 year plan for Leichardt off their own back, & have it set up, prior to letting HBG in on it?

Or just as hypothetical, Richo set up the deal with no board intervention.

Less hypothetical- HBG even alluded to this the other day through Leo E.

With these things 'happening', PVL steps in & convinces HBG that O'Farrell & Co will play nice & that Richo need not return etc & then....wait for it....HBG think "well, they were not so bad to deal with outside this issue we had..."

I went with you Chad and it was a wild ride

 

[weststigers]

What question?

What denigration?

 

[Tiger-ferret]

That's a good question.

What if.....go with me on this....HBG understood AFTER removing the board members/PVL intervention that the independents were not directly responsible?

Or, what if there wasn't enough evidence to say they were responsible for setting up deals beyond the HBG view.

As a hypothetical - Richo & his good mate O'Farrell put together a 15 year plan for Leichardt off their own back, & have it set up, prior to letting HBG in on it?

Or just as hypothetical, Richo set up the deal with no board intervention.

Less hypothetical- HBG even alluded to this the other day through Leo E.

With these things 'happening', PVL steps in & convinces HBG that O'Farrell & Co will play nice & that Richo need not return etc & then....wait for it....HBG think "well, they were not so bad to deal with outside this issue we had..."

What if all that hypothetically happened and HBG didn’t add another board member to make it not independant?

 

[The Chad]

Wouldn't a well run organisation have worked that out before sacking people and tarnishing their professional reputation?

Probably.

I'm not defending them (much to everyone's disbelief). I'm trying to understand them.

The fact the PVL heard both sides & came back with the reintroduction of board members, but in favour of HBG, suggests that while there is fault on HBG for removing the board members, maybe it goes both ways?

 

[BZN]

Its been a week without answers from any of them.

They must fear HBG losing their share and it passing to an independent owner who doesn't have the interests of the west magpies at heart - but the interest of the Wests tigers.

There in lies the problem - they should be supportive of this... We are a joint venture.. but they only have their self serving interests at heart.. and want control... Mu h like hbg

It's not a fear of losing HBG, it's a matter of HBG holding on to what is rightly theirs and not let it be stolen by someone that has done nothing positive to deserve it.

 

[The Chad]

What if all that hypothetically happened and HBG didn’t add another board member to make it not independant?

That would have been ideal.

But the 'owners' (let's just call them that without getting into the specifics of what HBG actually own etc seeing as how even the media portrays them as owners) felt that something untoward had gone down & took the opportunity to claim back control might have been the reasoning?

If HBG in charge is dodgy, why didn't the intervention of PVL change that?

 

[cochise]

100% correct again LT.
A great bit of detective work.

Yes...a senior Forum guy setting the example and followed by>>HBG will install a stooge they know they can control.
Many X 10 the amount of similar posts by various posters.
Keep up the good work.

Show these posts.

I will say now, I don't agree with what Spartan said but to say those comments are wide spread is a lie.

 

[mtd#2]

Mate there must have been 100 signs today that said.

Wests Tigers
Not Balmain
Not Wests

Can't get any clearer than that. And we have people talking about Balmain paraphernalia, the sign states our position beautifully.

It doesn't suit the conspiracy theory, so they'll gloss over that..

 

[cochise]

It's not a fear of losing HBG, it's a matter of HBG holding on to what is rightly theirs and not let it be stolen by someone that has done nothing positive to deserve it.

Explain to me who HBG is that are holding something that is rightfully theirs?

Secondly, are you a member of the HBG or Magpies?

 

[cochise]

That would have been ideal.

But the 'owners' (let's just call them that without getting into the specifics of what HBG actually own etc seeing as how even the media portrays them as owners) felt that something untoward had gone down & took the opportunity to claim back control might have been the reasoning?

If HBG in charge is dodgy, why didn't the intervention of PVL change that?

Who are the HBG? Who is that actually owns the Wests Tigers?

 

[Crucible]

That's a good question.

What if.....go with me on this....HBG understood AFTER removing the board members/PVL intervention that the independents were not directly responsible?

Or, what if there wasn't enough evidence to say they were responsible for setting up deals beyond the HBG view.

As a hypothetical - Richo & his good mate O'Farrell put together a 15 year plan for Leichardt off their own back, & have it set up, prior to letting HBG in on it?

Or just as hypothetical, Richo set up the deal with no board intervention.

Less hypothetical- HBG even alluded to this the other day through Leo E.

With these things 'happening', PVL steps in & convinces HBG that O'Farrell & Co will play nice & that Richo need not return etc & then....wait for it....HBG think "well, they were not so bad to deal with outside this issue we had..."

The Chad, don't you get sick of hearing you own voice? You must be the most insecure person I have had the misfortune to read. 99.99% of people on here think your a dope and you continually confirm it. I shall now hit the magic button that excludes your constant dribble.

 

[The Chad]

The Chad, don't you get sick of hearing you own voice? You must be the most insecure person I have had the misfortune to read. 99.99% of people on here think your a dope and you continually confirm it. I shall now hit the magic button that excludes your constant dribble.

Is the some total of all you add on this board attempts to insult me? Seems the only time people hear your take.

 

[The Chad]

Who are the HBG? Who is that actually owns the Wests Tigers?

In all honesty- as I've been saying all along- I don't understand the way the whole HBG thing 'works'.

However, they are nearly always portrayed as the 90% owners- be it through media or whatever.

Instead of the word 'owners', should I just refer to them as majority share holders?

Whatever terminology works- they clearly have the power to remove board members & CEO's. Whatever title THAT is- that is what HBG are.

 

[Chunk]

As Epifania said, Wests Ashfield have been at war with Wests Tigers for 25 years

And Cambo haven't they....clowns

 

[mtd#2]

It's not a fear of losing HBG, it's a matter of HBG holding on to what is rightly theirs and not let it be stolen by someone that has done nothing positive to deserve it.

Stolen? Rightfully theirs? Haha. And what exactly have HBG done to deserve it?

So you are now openly backing HBG and the directors who want to bring the magpies back and dismantle the joint venture aka tigers..

You've made this easy for all of us, thanks pal

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Been trying to think of a partial solution to the governance of the Wests Tigers in the instance HBG do not relinquish its license or have it revoked?

Given media reports of the last few days citing PVL, it is probably long odds of the NRL appointing an administrator now or HBG selling/relinquishing its license.

So really we need to fight for a constitution & board structure that, i) protects & progresses the interests of the Wests Tigers first & foremost and also ii) promotes the interests of the license holder/s (HBG,WM,BT).

In terms of Board structure, this could be a solution that achieves the above ...

- 3 x independents (1 as appointed chairman, must meet skills matrix from Crawford/Barnier report)
- 2 x HBG representatives (proviso written in constitution is both must be the member-elected directors at HBG)
- 1 x WM rep
- 1 x BT rep
* There has to be a minimum of 2 women on the board I believe to meet NRL standards.

The important thing here is that the HBG reps are the member-elected non-debenture holders on its board. So in that way, there is a democratic process to fill this position on our WT board.

For a benefit of HBG, it gives Wests Tigers members an incentive to become members of Wests Ashfield and those members then have voting rights in these elections for the 2 positions (can vote once a member for 3 years).

Currently there are NO member-elected directors on the HBG board as the election was cancelled this year due to the supreme court action. Click this link to read. And this link for more info.

Furthermore, there can still be lobbying of Liquor & Gaming to change the governance of HBG but the above Board structure could be a solution for all parties.

 

[Big Red]

Just over 54,000 homes with over 22,000 built, 568ha of open space, Leppington Station and town centre, upgrades to roads and 239ha of employment land. Add the Macarthur and Wilton growth areas, Narellan, Camden and Campbelltown and you start to appreciate the size of the area. Page 4 provides a Vision, Page 11 a detailed map.

The NRL needs to look at the delivery model for RL in this area as well as our traditional areas.

https://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/2023-04/guide-to-the-south-west-growth-area-and-updated-structure-plan.pdf

The new Western Sydney Aerotropolis is another massive growth area halfway between Campbelltown and Penrith. With an international airport, metro station and a new City Centre (Bradfield). Add in a stadium and major business sponsors. it might easily become WT future home.