Does the thread need to die? It has evolved into a discussion about how to better the club and how reform my be achieved. Do you not agree that changing the JV mindset is heading in the right direction?
Jolls, firstly . . . I've always respected your opinions and intelligent way you look at things.
This is a complicated issue for sure.
Changing the JV mindset is a good thing to strive for, but nearly impossible to change.
The divisions between original Wests and Tigers people still bubbles away under the surface . . . we'd hope that the intelligent ones can mostly keep it there . . . but it only takes one biased comment and it's a mess again.
While there's a whole new generation of purely WT supporters ( which is great ), surely you still see the contrast between old Balmain and Wests supporters ?
The ideal situation would have been that Balmain still existed, and so we would have had 2 sets of input at all levels resulting in a more stable situation. And there would be a whole lot less abuse thrown at the decision makers. But that bird is like Monty Python's parrot.
I'm not a disciple of HBG. Never set foot in Ashfield club. Don't particularly like the latest drama to drag our club down. Emphasis on "latest". Disappointed that Richo left ( without knowing the full reasoning ).
The debenture system is for sure a relic of a system. I know the son of a debenture holder . .. and from the way he spoke about it, those debentures ain't going away anytime soon.
What were his thoughts on the system ? . . . indoctrinated would be the one word answer I'd give.
But this is how they've chosen to run the place, and it's a massive ask if we think we have the right to insist that they change their systems.
But I think we could aim for a separate, more qualified " governing group " just for matters of Weststigers. I DGAF who they want on the WA/HBG board, but those dinosaurs probably don't have the acumen or relevance to grow our club. I don't know the structures of their club hierarchy and if this concept could even take place . . . but all the whining isn't going to dissolve the systems they hold so dear. And at the end of the day, if you own the cricket set, you decide if it's 6 and out or not.
All that aside, while we might not owe WA a statue for saving our club when Balmain folded . . . I'm grateful that when the $$ had to be tipped in to close off the Balmain books, it was from the other JV partner. God knows what would have happened if Wests didn't have the money.
Maybe I'm old, maybe I'm hanging on to outdated values, but to me it's pretty low class to tear strips off the people that "saved" the club.
Thank God we've won our first 2 . . . so many here are drooling at the prospect of blaming HBG for every single thing that's wrong with this place. And God knows, there are SOOOO many things to pick from. The chant of "HBG out" is so ironically hilarious, especially coming from original Balmain people.
Anyway, we should make one of those work safety boards you see in factories. XX days without injuries, and such. But ours would be " XX days since HBG unpopular action". We'd be at around 60 days now . . . that should be rewarded with a WT keyring, or something ?
Bring on the season. Yet again I have the February Fever. But things are looking up. The team isn't letting the HBG stuff influence them, and that's a good thing.
