Heamasi Makasini #303

mtd#2 said:
You are talking about two different things:

1. Building a team around a core group of elite players
2. Paying overs

The Storm and Panthers have been the benchmark for years and neither pay overs, for anyone.
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I take your point.

Fairly sure guys like Cleary and Yeo aren’t on loose change.

What we need is guys like Bula & Samuela to keep improving so the overs aren’t actually bad deals.
 
Tito Santana said:
Pretty good signs going forward noting the following are locked in for a while:

1. Bula
2. Turuva
3. May
4. Maka
5.
6. Douhei
7.
8. Terrell
9. Api
10.
11.
12. KPP
13. Twal

Latu and Sam next cabs off the rank.
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Logan Brookes was named as wing for magpies for this weekend.... I know he's usually fullback, but is he our star winger in the next year or two???
 
mtd#2 said:
You are talking about two different things:

1. Building a team around a core group of elite players
2. Paying overs

The Storm and Panthers have been the benchmark for years and neither pay overs, for anyone.
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Look, lets review:

Yes the Storm and Panthers are the Benchmarks NOW and now they are not paying overs.

Then, however I recall a huge contract for Nathan Cleary.

Also the Storm did make massive contracts for Cronk, Slater, Ingles and Smith. They just ignored the cap.


Their initial recruitment strategies involved one thing.
Pay overs for a decent halfback!
Later, they could offer unders.
 
Oscar Martinez said:
All the doomsayers potting Mielekamp as an inexperienced rookie who could never hope to match the almighty Richo have gone quiet lately.
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I don't think it was just people having doubts about him as an inexperienced rookie because he has got runs on the board everywhere that he has been.

From all reports Shaun has had previous experience dealing with disfunctional/difficult to deal with management and boards, the doubt in many peoples minds has been around how tight a leash do the HBG have around Shaun's neck, bearing in mind that he is still only interim and not knowing exactly how much freedom he has to action important matters.

So I think it could be safe to say that in many peoples minds, any doubts about Shaun's ability to achieve success probably come down to some of the following:
  • Doubts surrounding Shaun's tenure as CEO, which is reasonable considering that he is still only listed as interim.
  • A lack of knowledge and understanding of exactly what role and how far reaching his responsibilities currently are within the organisation.
  • How much freedom and autonomy he has in relation to decisions that can be made around those areas of responsibilty.
  • A lack of information coming from HBG in relation to make up of boards, their meetings and any decisions coming from those.
I'm sure there are many more factors and concerns that people have surrounding Shaun's current situation, but one thing that cannot be disputed is that Richo brought him in to be his successor and the only thing that we know for certain at the moment is that just like Benji, Shaun has had his apprenticeship cut short and has been thrown in the deep end.

All we can do is wish him every success and hope that there is no repeat of any of the brain dead types of decisions from HBG that we saw back in December.
 
hank37w said:
I don't think it was just people having doubts about him as an inexperienced rookie because he has got runs on the board everywhere that he has been.

From all reports Shaun has had previous experience dealing with disfunctional/difficult to deal with management and boards, the doubt in many peoples minds has been around how tight a leash do the HBG have around Shaun's neck, bearing in mind that he is still only interim and not knowing exactly how much freedom he has to action important matters.

So I think it could be safe to say that in many peoples minds, any doubts about Shaun's ability to achieve success probably come down to some of the following:
  • Doubts surrounding Shaun's tenure as CEO, which is reasonable considering that he is still only listed as interim.
  • A lack of knowledge and understanding of exactly what role and how far reaching his responsibilities currently are within the organisation.
  • How much freedom and autonomy he has in relation to decisions that can be made around those areas of responsibilty.
  • A lack of information coming from HBG in relation to make up of boards, their meetings and any decisions coming from those.
I'm sure there are many more factors and concerns that people have surrounding Shaun's current situation, but one thing that cannot be disputed is that Richo brought him in to be his successor and the only thing that we know for certain at the moment is that just like Benji, Shaun has had his apprenticeship cut short and has been thrown in the deep end.

All we can do is wish him every success and hope that there is no repeat of any of the brain dead types of decisions from HBG that we saw back in December.
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Thing is he wasn't an inexperienced operator in the first place. He was CEO of a professional sporting club for 9 years, during which time despite having no funds they won back to back comps. And prior to that worked for Souths and Penrith so also knows League. Richo brought him in because Shaun is a really good asset to the club
 
Successful cap management involves skill and luck. Firstly you try and assemble a quality spine. Than you get a couple of standout front rowers and at least one very good edge back rower. Than you throw some money at outstanding kids who have real potential. What cap you have left you throw at journeyman and kids coming through. Benji has managed to lock in are very solid core of players and hopefully a couple of kids are going to really surprise and make the big step to nrl
 
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