It would be cheaper to pay out Jason Taylors final two years than to get rid of Robbie.

[PrattenParkMagpie]

Beat me to it PrattenPark.

I'm not so sure a claim could be made anyway because I think Farah would be classified as a contractor and I don't think they are eligible. Not positive on that though.

hes not a contractor.

hes employed by the club via a contract that is ratified by the NRL.

Thanks, you made that even easier…
He is employed by the club, he is an employee, therefore unless stated in his contract the club can play him anywhere they see fit provided they pay him, and provided they pay him there are no grounds for any civil action. If he resigns then it is of his own volition.

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

but bobo, In law, loosely using of words can get one in a whole heap of trouble

 

[bobo125]

Beat me to it PrattenPark.

I'm not so sure a claim could be made anyway because I think Farah would be classified as a contractor and I don't think they are eligible. Not positive on that though.

hes not a contractor.

hes employed by the club via a contract that is ratified by the NRL.

Thanks, you made that even easier…
He is employed by the club, he is an employee, therefore unless stated in his contract the club can play him anywhere they see fit provided they pay him, and provided they pay him there are no grounds for any civil action. If he resigns then it is of his own volition.

i mean i get your position.

what i dont get is, if it were as easy as this - really - then why would JT not just put Farah in reserves.
forget all the communication and the media releases that robbie dosnt fit into the futute plans etc.

if it was a straight forward as you suggest, why not just do that.
put him in reserves and just say- because we can. we are still paying him and we're the boss's. ?

if he then quit - thats on him.

If the media or anyone asks why hes in reserves - well he hasnt performed for the last 12 months

i mean i would interpret that as a far better way of dealing with this as a strategy to get rid of him - dont you think ?

 

[bobo125]

but bobo, In law, loosely using of words can get one in a whole heap of trouble

agree.

i tried (earlier) to outline things specifically… and it went right over the top of a few people here.
so i made the mistake of trying to describe a process in a manner that some might understand.

i - and several others - tried to explain that - if threatened in the manner which has been reported - it was illegal.

someone then came back and said...isnt that convo private and privileged ? ? ?

 

[Geo]

We never drop players… get real...

Anyone remember the case of Kirk Reynoldson when Brian Smith dropped him at the Knights as he had a actual clause in his contract if he played a certain number of FG games it triggered an automatic extension for the following year..Where was the RLPA then...

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

Beat me to it PrattenPark.

I'm not so sure a claim could be made anyway because I think Farah would be classified as a contractor and I don't think they are eligible. Not positive on that though.

hes not a contractor.

hes employed by the club via a contract that is ratified by the NRL.

Thanks, you made that even easier…
He is employed by the club, he is an employee, therefore unless stated in his contract the club can play him anywhere they see fit provided they pay him, and provided they pay him there are no grounds for any civil action. If he resigns then it is of his own volition.

i mean i get your position.

what i dont get is, if it were as easy as this - really - then why would JT not just put Farah in reserves.
forget all the communication and the media releases that robbie dosnt fit into the futute plans etc.

if it was a straight forward as you suggest, why not just do that.
put him in reserves and just say- because we can. we are still paying him and we're the boss's. ?

if he then quit - thats on him.

If the media or anyone asks why hes in reserves - well he hasnt performed for the last 12 months

i mean i would interpret that as a far better way of dealing with this as a strategy to get rid of him - dont you think ?

Maybe because at this point in time Cherrington is not ready, but after a full of season they believe he will be, it’s looking to the future, at this point in time Farah is still the best option, next year he isn’t.

 

[Telltails]

None of us should condone any coach not picking his best available team because he dosnt like the bloke.

 

[innsaneink]

None of us should condone any coach not picking his best available team because he dosnt like the bloke.

And where, when did JT say this?
He hasnt.
Please…do not fabricate, stick to facts

 

[bobo125]

Maybe because at this point in time Cherrington is not ready, but after a full of season they believe he will be, it’s looking to the future, at this point in time Farah is still the best option, next year he isn’t.

ok ill go with that too - but if so why make the noise now.
why not 'keep business as usual" and then next year just do it ?

keep the fans happy over the off season
keep the players happy
keep the sponsors happy
keep the media as far from the club as possible and just work towards that plan ?

 

[NT_Tiger]

My take on 'employed by the club via a contract' makes him a contractor. He is not a 'wage and salary' earner. Anyway I'll leave that to the legal experts. From my point of view, there may be a case to answer but if so it will be a stretch.

Re condoning not picking the "best available team". I think the coach has covered that. A 'best player' that is not the best fit in a 'team' might not get picked as part of the best available team. It's the coaches choice. That's what he's employed to do. Many here seem to agree that the 'best player' is not in the best fit for the team. Matter of opinion.

 

[Telltails]

None of us should condone any coach not picking his best available team because he dosnt like the bloke.

And where, when did JT say this?
He hasnt.
Please…do not fabricate, stick to facts

I am referring to the discussion on the forum that suggests if FARAH stays that the coach can play him in reserve grade if he chooses to without repercussions. Did not say names - was discussing the precedent of doing that by any coach as being unacceptable.

 

[innsaneink]

Glad we got that straight….was only a matter of time.
Dont try so hard bobbo,,,you arent impressing anyone.

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

Maybe because at this point in time Cherrington is not ready, but after a full of season they believe he will be, it’s looking to the future, at this point in time Farah is still the best option, next year he isn’t.

ok ill go with that too - but if so why make the noise now.
why not 'keep business as usual" and then next year just do it ?

keep the fans happy over the off season
keep the players happy
keep the sponsors happy
keep the media as far from the club as possible and just work towards that plan ?

Because if Farah isn’t happy with the decision he needed to be given the opportunity to explore other avenues, and the earlier the better, as the club did by talking to Ayoub after Origin, it is Ayoub who should be held accountable for not telling Farah then, and who ever leaked it to the media, because it would likely have been kept in house until the seasons end had it not been leaked

 

[bobo125]

My take on 'employed by the club via a contract' makes him a contractor. He is not a 'wage and salary' earner. Anyway I'll leave that to the legal experts. From my point of view, there may be a case to answer but if so it will be a stretch.

as per the ATO website
Employees work in your business and are part of your business.
Contractors are running their own business.
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generally speaking - within most corporate organizations today when you are employed by a company you will sign a employment contract.
that contract becomes both parties legal document for everything relating to the relationship

 

[bobo125]

Glad we got that straight….was only a matter of time.
Dont try so hard bobbo,,,you arent impressing anyone.

mate im not trying to impress anyone. i can assure you of that,

ive read some of the things you too have written and mate…....
you know what they say..people in glass houses.

 

[bobo125]

Maybe because at this point in time Cherrington is not ready, but after a full of season they believe he will be, it’s looking to the future, at this point in time Farah is still the best option, next year he isn’t.

ok ill go with that too - but if so why make the noise now.
why not 'keep business as usual" and then next year just do it ?

keep the fans happy over the off season
keep the players happy
keep the sponsors happy
keep the media as far from the club as possible and just work towards that plan ?

Because if Farah isn’t happy with the decision he needed to be given the opportunity to explore other avenues, and the earlier the better, as the club did by talking to Ayoub after Origin, it is Ayoub who should be held accountable for not telling Farah then, and who ever leaked it to the media, because it would likely have been kept in house until the seasons end had it not been leaked

again - agree - with some of this - but again - on one hand we're saying - we are the boss's we can do whatever we like - in terms of playing you in reserves buuuuuuut we still want to give you the opportunity to look elsewhere ?
why ?
if the actual case is that they dont want him at the club - then surely the smarter option here would have been to have just kept everything status qu this year.
drop him next year.
say its performance
hope he quits
save the cash / salary cap
and move forward
everyone wins under than scenario ?

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

Maybe because at this point in time Cherrington is not ready, but after a full of season they believe he will be, it’s looking to the future, at this point in time Farah is still the best option, next year he isn’t.

ok ill go with that too - but if so why make the noise now.
why not 'keep business as usual" and then next year just do it ?

keep the fans happy over the off season
keep the players happy
keep the sponsors happy
keep the media as far from the club as possible and just work towards that plan ?

Because if Farah isn’t happy with the decision he needed to be given the opportunity to explore other avenues, and the earlier the better, as the club did by talking to Ayoub after Origin, it is Ayoub who should be held accountable for not telling Farah then, and who ever leaked it to the media, because it would likely have been kept in house until the seasons end had it not been leaked

again - agree - with some of this - but again - on one hand we're saying - we are the boss's we can do whatever we like - in terms of playing you in reserves buuuuuuut we still want to give you the opportunity to look elsewhere ?
why ?
if the actual case is that they dont want him at the club - then surely the smarter option here would have been to have just kept everything status qu this year.
drop him next year.
say its performance
hope he quits
save the cash / salary cap
and move forward
everyone wins under than scenario ?

Wait till next year, tell him nothing then drop him then, now that certainly would not be treating Farah with respect

 

[innsaneink]

Glad we got that straight….was only a matter of time.
Dont try so hard bobbo,,,you arent impressing anyone.

mate im not trying to impress anyone. i can assure you of that,

ive read some of the things you too have written and mate…....
you know what they say..people in glass houses.

Youve been here a few days….
A tip
Talk with us, dont TRY and talk down to us...you fail

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

Glad we got that straight….was only a matter of time.
Dont try so hard bobbo,,,you arent impressing anyone.

mate im not trying to impress anyone. i can assure you of that,

ive read some of the things you too have written and mate…....
you know what they say..people in glass houses.

I don’t always agree with everything Ink say’s, but I have known him for 40 years, and can assure you he doesn’t let emotion get in the way of his comments as many others do. He deals in facts, not in the hearsay and innuendo that flies around the media and forum.

 

[bobo125]

Wait till next year, tell him nothing then drop him then, now that certainly would not be treating Farah with respect

but this current situation has ?
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the whole situation lacks class and respect.

Michael Ennis expressed that he was in the same position as farrah last year with the dogs.
obviously he wasnt a long standing player, but he was the captain and he was being moved on because he was not seen to fit in with the future plans.
The difference according to Ennis simply came down to HOW it was managed.

thats what we are really talking about here.

and regardless of what some people might think - if he was threaten - there is a problem.

if its a case of the club and jt can do whatever they want as his emplyer, surely there were far better options at hand to indirectly or directly force farrah out ?