It's a been a long time guys. I'm back. Miss me?

[smoking_gun]

hey smoking gun, any news on Nofoaluma?

He has an offer but tigers won't pay overs. Lots of good outside backs off contract for 2018 so his bargaining power is lessened.

 

[tigerap]

I reckon Woods will accept the offer on the table for him and he will sign up before Saturdays game,

 

[smoking_gun]

There's 2 options for Tedesco at WT. he has an offer of close to 1 million per season but the length of contract is the stalling point. So they can either give the extra 2 seasons or have to bump his pay up to around the 1.1 million a season on the current deal offered.

If I was a tigers fan I'd be pretty confident he will stay and a deal will be struck very soon.

And Woods and Moses?…is it true Moses is asking way overs to stay?

Do u think 800k a season is overs? I do. But there's not many other options available outside of Foran. Moses is in a good position for a pay day with WT. not sure his value is worth that outside of WT though.

 

[smoking_gun]

I reckon Woods will accept the offer on the table for him and he will sign up before Saturdays game,

I reckon he will be the next to put pen to paper.

 

[larrycorowa]

I can't understand the angst that some posters have for posters of the ilk of SG who are providing some genuine indsider insights. Sure not everything is correct, that's the dynamic nature of contracts and footy clubs….things change. I'll tell you what reading this post beats the data less drivel served up by some here.

 

[happy_tiger]

What I can reveal is that the original contracts to woods and brooks have been pulled and are being restructured (based on years of contracts for woods and amount of dollars and years for brooks)

Tedesco will re-sign.
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New players tigers have been in discussions with are Albert vete from the warriors and whare from Penrith. But I'm sure to hear more in the coming weeks about other players which I'll update in this thread.

I'm also hearing idris and kavin naq won't be on the books next year.

Is this like how you revealed that Braith Anasta after a Friday night game was involved in a match fixing scam when he played for the WT's ??

How did that go SG , Anasta get banned for life like Simona was

Or how you took a job at the Cowboys or was leaving the WT's ??

PS Say g'day to Robbie for us , wish him God's speed with his back injury

What's the problem with the information SG is providing? You either believe it or you don't. Recently you were going to shove Matt Ballin down my throat but has Matty done anything of note on the field to warrant an extension by Ivan?

You had a person claiming he worked in the office at the WT's accusing a player of matching fixing …...

Gun is on the mark with some info he provides I'm not saying he isn't

The key signing this club makes will be external if we are to turn this club around

And Gun , say Hi to Robbie , make sure his back is on the mend

 

[Tigerdon]

hey smoking gun, any news on Nofoaluma?

He has an offer but tigers won't pay overs. Lots of good outside backs off contract for 2018 so his bargaining power is lessened.

Thanks for all the info Smoking Gun. It's been a tough few years since the team started to go down hill towards the end of Sheens reign.
Having someone like Cleary at the helm is starting to give some hope of building a solid team again. His message of get on the bus or get off has been refreshing.
Any info you have shared has been well received.

 

[Muffstar]

Chris Lawrence was the best centre to ever play for the Wests Tigers, it is true that he still had the majority of his speed post the hip dislocation but he then continued to tear his hamstring which was related to the hip injury. His dislocation was horrific and took a long time to be put back into place. I also suspect that his dislocation resulted in Hip Osteonecrosis (Femoral Head Bone Death). Chris deserves a lot more respect than he receives on this forum, he suffered this injury playing for our team, it wasn't his fault he had recently signed a very lucrative contract, a contract that he fully deserved for the level of player he was. He in recent years renegotiated that deal to a much more team friendly deal, he didn't have to do that, he could have taken the money owed to him. Do you think many of our other players would have done that?

Fulton, Farah, Marshall all had changes to their contracts to help the team. The same fate awaits Lawrence imo.

 

[supercoach]

Thanks SG for your info. As for me I am more than happy to have Brooks and Teddy although with our forward strength so low it would seem strange to let our best forward go, although I guess we have some good young front rowers on our books and Woods asking price could buy you two decent forwards.

With Moses I am not sure, last year when he was on fire he looked very good, but we have not even had a glimpse of that sort of form this year. His asking price is way over the odds so I probably would let him walk and direct that money at two new faces. Anyway one thing is for sure if he does take up a offer elsewhere I would play him in reggies for the rest of the year

 

[mike]

There's 2 options for Tedesco at WT. he has an offer of close to 1 million per season but the length of contract is the stalling point. So they can either give the extra 2 seasons or have to bump his pay up to around the 1.1 million a season on the current deal offered.

If I was a tigers fan I'd be pretty confident he will stay and a deal will be struck very soon.

And Woods and Moses?…is it true Moses is asking way overs to stay?

Do u think 800k a season is overs? I do. But there's not many other options available outside of Foran. Moses is in a good position for a pay day with WT. not sure his value is worth that outside of WT though.

Way over at his current performance level. That is paying potential not what is actually being delivered. $300K to $500K tops at current performance. I'd put some incentive in the contract $600K if they make the eight, $700K if top 4 $800K only if they make the grand final.

 

[cochise]

Chris Lawrence was the best centre to ever play for the Wests Tigers, it is true that he still had the majority of his speed post the hip dislocation but he then continued to tear his hamstring which was related to the hip injury. His dislocation was horrific and took a long time to be put back into place. I also suspect that his dislocation resulted in Hip Osteonecrosis (Femoral Head Bone Death). Chris deserves a lot more respect than he receives on this forum, he suffered this injury playing for our team, it wasn't his fault he had recently signed a very lucrative contract, a contract that he fully deserved for the level of player he was. He in recent years renegotiated that deal to a much more team friendly deal, he didn't have to do that, he could have taken the money owed to him. Do you think many of our other players would have done that?

Fulton, Farah, Marshall all had changes to their contracts to help the team. The same fate awaits Lawrence imo.

Yes they all did, I actually meant do you think our current players would do that? I think that is one thing that our current roster lacks, that willingness to sacrifice for the betterment of the team.

 

[mike]

Chris Lawrence was the best centre to ever play for the Wests Tigers, it is true that he still had the majority of his speed post the hip dislocation but he then continued to tear his hamstring which was related to the hip injury. His dislocation was horrific and took a long time to be put back into place. I also suspect that his dislocation resulted in Hip Osteonecrosis (Femoral Head Bone Death). Chris deserves a lot more respect than he receives on this forum, he suffered this injury playing for our team, it wasn't his fault he had recently signed a very lucrative contract, a contract that he fully deserved for the level of player he was. He in recent years renegotiated that deal to a much more team friendly deal, he didn't have to do that, he could have taken the money owed to him. Do you think many of our other players would have done that?

Fulton, Farah, Marshall all had changes to their contracts to help the team. The same fate awaits Lawrence imo.

Yes they all did, I actually meant do you think our current players would do that? I think that is one thing that our current roster lacks, that willingness to sacrifice for the betterment of the team.

Given how others were treated when they did I would hope and expect not. Those days should be well and truly passed.

 

[05TIGZ]

Thanks SG for your info. As for me I am more than happy to have Brooks and Teddy although with our forward strength so low it would seem strange to let our best forward go, although I guess we have some good young front rowers on our books and Woods asking price could buy you two decent forwards.

With Moses I am not sure, last year when he was on fire he looked very good, but we have not even had a glimpse of that sort of form this year. His asking price is way over the odds so I probably would let him walk and direct that money at two new faces. Anyway one thing is for sure if he does take up a offer elsewhere I would play him in reggies for the rest of the year

The more i see of Moses the more i think he is probabluly more a fullback then a half. He plays for himself, has no kicking game and has plenty of speed. Brooks gets plenty of flak for his defence but Moses is much worse. At least brooks has a go. Half the time Moses rushes up and tackle no one or goes for the intercept. Id swap him for reynolds from the bulldogs anyday, at least you know you will get someone who will play from the heart and tackle all day.

 

[Twal'sFirstTry]

Hey smoking
Should we expect any announcements from the club about signings in the next week or two?

 

[VanillaThunder]

hey smoking gun, any news on Nofoaluma?

He has an offer but tigers won't pay overs. Lots of good outside backs off contract for 2018 so his bargaining power is lessened.

He's been our best bar Teddy for the last two years really, surely he's earned his money and doesn't need too much bargaining power?

 

[05TIGZ]

Great info smoking gun. Dont listen to the haters, keep the info coming. No one expects you to be right 100% of the time, but still exciting to get some news.

 

[newtiger]

I can't understand the angst that some posters have for posters of the ilk of SG who are providing some genuine indsider insights. Sure not everything is correct, that's the dynamic nature of contracts and footy clubs….things change. I'll tell you what reading this post beats the data less drivel served up by some here.

They are most probably jealous that they don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

 

[happy_tiger]

I can't understand the angst that some posters have for posters of the ilk of SG who are providing some genuine indsider insights. Sure not everything is correct, that's the dynamic nature of contracts and footy clubs….things change. I'll tell you what reading this post beats the data less drivel served up by some here.

They are most probably jealous that they don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

No not at all BT

I just think it is highly irresponsible for someone claiming to be part of the Concord scene to be accusing players of match fixing when in the end it was so far from the mark it wasn't funny

We all want the club to show some integrity and accountability in one sentence and then in the next we want more leaks than a sieve which are probably agenda driven

You can't have it both ways sorry

 

[innsaneink]

I can't understand the angst that some posters have for posters of the ilk of SG who are providing some genuine indsider insights. Sure not everything is correct, that's the dynamic nature of contracts and footy clubs….things change. I'll tell you what reading this post beats the data less drivel served up by some here.

They are most probably jealous that they don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

I can't speak for others…. But when people like tank start posting slanderous BS like below.... It just goes to a whole new level.
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http://www.weststigersforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18895

 

[Pawsandclaws]

hey smoking gun, any news on Nofoaluma?

He has an offer but tigers won't pay overs. Lots of good outside backs off contract for 2018 so his bargaining power is lessened.

He's been our best bar Teddy for the last two years really, surely he's earned his money and doesn't need too much bargaining power?

Having three put past you on one weekend is not good enough! His defensive issue are pre-existing the arrival of Kev yet years later he has not rectified them. Part of the issue is he doesn't possess the pace to slide and cover where as JAC does. I am not so sure retaining him is good for us or for him.