Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

[bigsiro]

Pascoe should call Gus today and say
“Show me the money “

Ivan should be frog marched out of Concord this arvo !

Seriously….who wants to put up with all this crap for 2 more seasons ?!

Not I hobbo

 

[Balmainian]

Im probably wrong with what I'm about to say and i don't like what's going on one little bit but here goes

Wouldn't it be funny if IC never ever had any intentions of ever going back to Penrith

The problem being NC sees himself as having unfinished business at Penrith with his mates

Both IC and NC work on getting the best deal they can for NC at Penrith with a clause regarding IC future

Once NC has agreed to the deal IC than recommits to tiger's

When NC goals at Penrith are reached he joins his dad at tiger's

Unlikely but would be nice just to see gus played for the fool

It is no more fanciful than some of the other propositions being put forward.

Sadly I feel the fools that are being played are us.

 

[TonyTiger]

Pascoe should call Gus today and say
“Show me the money “

Ivan should be frog marched out of Concord this arvo !

Seriously….who wants to put up with all this crap for 2 more seasons ?!

 

[tiger05premier]

Im probably wrong with what I'm about to say and i don't like what's going on one little bit but here goes

Wouldn't it be funny if IC never ever had any intentions of ever going back to Penrith

The problem being NC sees himself as having unfinished business at Penrith with his mates

Both IC and NC work on getting the best deal they can for NC at Penrith with a clause regarding IC future

Once NC has agreed to the deal IC than recommits to tiger's

When NC goals at Penrith are reached he joins his dad at tiger's

Unlikely but would be nice just to see gus played for the fool

It is no more fanciful than some of the other propositions being put forward.

Sadly I feel the fools that are being played are us.

You are most likely right

We always lose out

 

[bigsiro]

I really think we should stay strong on enforcing Ivan's contract for the next 2 years, call Gus's bluff and give him the option of hiring a new coach in 2020 or firing Ceraldo after he has enjoyed a year with his players and staff. We always only had the terms of Ivans contract so its business as usual and if Ivan does not commit for 2021 and beyond we have the time to source a new coach in our time NOT Gus's

I think that getting back at Gus in this manner only does further harm to our club.
I get the need to dig our heels in and exact vengeance, but I feel the best play would be hiring a coach who wants long term success and then provides it, especially ensuring beating Penrith every time we play them :slight_smile:

 

[Balmainian]

Is there any chance of getting Sheens back?
Does anybody know if it’s a possibility?
With Sheens, Hodgo and Marshall and maybe Farah as assistant coaches I’d feel is the only way to secure people who would not want to leave or be bought off.
Not sure how Sheens would feel but if a few of his 05 troops with him and the new board maybe he would come back.

 

[WT2K]

https://twitter.com/CastTiger/status/1042583441835868161?s=19

 

[bigsiro]

Who is Tigercast and where does he/she get his/her intel?

 

[TheDaBoss]

time will only tell tbh

 

[THE_POM]

Simply if Ivan does not agree to extend his current deal with the club he WILL NOT be the head coach for 2019\. Everything should be finalized one way or the other prior to pre-season, but this is affecting recruitment big time & has already cost us one signing.

 

[matchball]

We went 12-12 this year with our $700k half off the field pretty much all season. Surely if you're Nathan Cleary you'd think you're good for a couple more wins at least.

Yoss - Really respect your insight as you know.

Im not sure Reynolds Would have /Will add that much to us when fit next year.

Our Fwds are still not formidable enough IMO

Don't get me wrong - we have many faults. But based on results we're not far off. A 14-10 season is usually solid top 6\. All I'm saying is that on that basis we're shouldn't be a no go for recruits. It's not like we need massive changes just selective tweaking.

We need back row metres. Taylor and Eisenhuth don't cut it. Some of the defence in the Souths game would have been embarrassing at Schoolboy level.

Packer started well but faded. Matulino was the opposite. Clearly we're a prop down. Twal is solid but developing. There needs to be someone else to come off the bench.

We need a centre who can defend. Fonua has the attitude but not the smarts. Marsters looked great at times but poor and his low points.

Long story short we have too many tryers and not enough dynamism.

Doesn't help the rotation playing a hooker on the bench.

 

[matchball]

Its not very often one agrees with Laurie Daley, errrr.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/laurie-daley-has-called-on-the-wests-tigers-to-focus-on-replacing-ivan-cleary-immediately-with-a-bigname-head-coach/news-story/b7b6ebe3d9c84b8ad2197de2cfa8fd88

I agree with it.
Also it shows that Gus is a toad. Destabilising us to get what he wants.

I cant stand his face.

 

[hobbo]

Simply if Ivan does not agree to extend his current deal with the club he WILL NOT be the head coach for 2019\. Everything should be finalized one way or the other prior to pre-season, but this is affecting recruitment big time & has already cost us one signing.

But why is there the desire to extend him ?
He’s an average coach !

 

[uuem]

Simply if Ivan does not agree to extend his current deal with the club he WILL NOT be the head coach for 2019\. Everything should be finalized one way or the other prior to pre-season, but this is affecting recruitment big time & has already cost us one signing.

Does preseason training start in November?

 

[THE_POM]

Simply if Ivan does not agree to extend his current deal with the club he WILL NOT be the head coach for 2019\. Everything should be finalized one way or the other prior to pre-season, but this is affecting recruitment big time & has already cost us one signing.

But why is there the desire to extend him ?
He’s an average coach !

He has the backing of the players & all have bought into the culture & attitude he's created. Another coach no matter who it is will create instability at 1st. Improvements this year were shown & the club dose not want to upset that. Cleary's reputation has & will continue to take a hit until this is settled.

 

[innsaneink]

Its not very often one agrees with Laurie Daley, errrr.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/laurie-daley-has-called-on-the-wests-tigers-to-focus-on-replacing-ivan-cleary-immediately-with-a-bigname-head-coach/news-story/b7b6ebe3d9c84b8ad2197de2cfa8fd88

More of Gould attempting to up the pressure on the WTs. Same message, different face.

That was my immediate thought as soon as I opened the article. Nothing to see here folks.

Hah!
Thnx for saving me a waste of time NT

 

[Abraham]

Simply if Ivan does not agree to extend his current deal with the club he WILL NOT be the head coach for 2019\. Everything should be finalized one way or the other prior to pre-season, but this is affecting recruitment big time & has already cost us one signing.

At least the club is being proactive i suppose.

Was the player we missed out on a decent signing?

If Ivan goes i suppose the obvious replacement would be madge … assuming he wants to come here. I'm just not sold on him for some reason. The game has changed alot since he won the prize with Souths, and his game plans and strategies are no longer effective. Hope i am wrong about him, but if its a toss up between Cleary and Madge, then i go with Ivan the Terrible.

 

[innsaneink]

Simply if Ivan does not agree to extend his current deal with the club he WILL NOT be the head coach for 2019\. Everything should be finalized one way or the other prior to pre-season, but this is affecting recruitment big time & has already cost us one signing.

At least the club is being proactive i suppose.

Was the player we missed out on a decent signing?

If Ivan goes i suppose the obvious replacement would be madge … assuming he wants to come here. I'm just not sold on him for some reason. The game has changed alot since he won the prize with Souths, and his game plans and strategies are no longer effective. Hope i am wrong about him, but if its a toss up between Cleary and Madge, then i go with Ivan the Terrible.

The club has to offer an extension before one can be agreed to

Mystery player is probably CHN :unamused:

 

[Tim Sheens]

Simply if Ivan does not agree to extend his current deal with the club he WILL NOT be the head coach for 2019\. Everything should be finalized one way or the other prior to pre-season, but this is affecting recruitment big time & has already cost us one signing.

But why is there the desire to extend him ?
He’s an average coach !

He has the backing of the players & all have bought into the culture & attitude he's created. Another coach no matter who it is will create instability at 1st. Improvements this year were shown & the club dose not want to upset that. Cleary's reputation has & will continue to take a hit until this is settled.

Thanks for spelling out that which many have seen as obvious for a long time. Your insight is valued by many here, so it will likely change the narrative of a good few.

 

[TSupps05]

Who was the player