JAC

[Telltails]

I have never claimed to have sources, but I do have a mate at the Dogs who does. He has been in and around their sponsors for ages. He says their new sponsors see themselves as the new Politis....they are very active in recruitment, whining and dining players and agents personally. They brought Burton's family down. They are apparently very slick and popular with players. Run a series of pubs. They want deals done and are very aggressive. Take all of that however you want.

The Laundy's it's been well talked about. They have got truckloads.

Seems they are prepared to use it...

Just what the NRL needs...new Politis!

From all reports has already been shaking things up at board level - hence the recent shake up. They will definitely have an influence on the Bulldogs recruitment.


Laundy was the one responsibly for putting the old board in. He threatened to leave if they got rid of Lynn Anderson

All resolved and is backing the new board.

 

[Newtown]

Good point about DWZ to dogs as a trade for JAC it is a kind of like for like ... we are screwed if that offer is on the table

You jest.

 

[ElleryHanley]

I have never claimed to have sources, but I do have a mate at the Dogs who does. He has been in and around their sponsors for ages. He says their new sponsors see themselves as the new Politis....they are very active in recruitment, whining and dining players and agents personally. They brought Burton's family down. They are apparently very slick and popular with players. Run a series of pubs. They want deals done and are very aggressive. Take all of that however you want.

The Laundy's it's been well talked about. They have got truckloads.

Seems they are prepared to use it...

Just what the NRL needs...new Politis!

From all reports has already been shaking things up at board level - hence the recent shake up. They will definitely have an influence on the Bulldogs recruitment.


Laundy was the one responsibly for putting the old board in. He threatened to leave if they got rid of Lynn Anderson

Hopefully they go, but I doubt it. Seems they basically want to run the club like Uncle Nick does,

 

[Tiger5150]

I have never claimed to have sources, but I do have a mate at the Dogs who does. He has been in and around their sponsors for ages. He says their new sponsors see themselves as the new Politis....they are very active in recruitment, whining and dining players and agents personally. They brought Burton's family down. They are apparently very slick and popular with players. Run a series of pubs. They want deals done and are very aggressive. Take all of that however you want.

The Laundy's it's been well talked about. They have got truckloads.

Seems they are prepared to use it...

Just what the NRL needs...new Politis!

From all reports has already been shaking things up at board level - hence the recent shake up. They will definitely have an influence on the Bulldogs recruitment.


Laundy was the one responsibly for putting the old board in. He threatened to leave if they got rid of Lynn Anderson

All resolved and is backing the new board.

Agreed, but my point is he wasnt the one responsible for "shaking up" the board. He wanted the old one retained.

 

[tony soprano]

Good point about DWZ to dogs as a trade for JAC it is a kind of like for like ... we are screwed if that offer is on the table

Depends if dwz wants to go there too.

 

[jrtiger]

Good point about DWZ to dogs as a trade for JAC it is a kind of like for like ... we are screwed if that offer is on the table

Depends if dwz wants to go there too.

and if Melbourne can afford his ridiculously priced contract.

 

[tony soprano]

Good point about DWZ to dogs as a trade for JAC it is a kind of like for like ... we are screwed if that offer is on the table

Depends if dwz wants to go there too.

and if Melbourne can afford his ridiculously priced contract.

Yes JAC wouldn’t be on same money.

 

[hsvjones]

Good point about DWZ to dogs as a trade for JAC it is a kind of like for like ... we are screwed if that offer is on the table

Depends if dwz wants to go there too.

and if Melbourne can afford his ridiculously priced contract.

Going off Storms history they won't be paying overs for a winger and Dogs would need to contribute money for that to happen. They will have Pap's, B Smith, Grant, Munster as their core big earners.

 

[PJ_]

Wonder if @CCTW or @THE_POM have anything on JAC to the Bulldogs. Doubt it’s true though. Apparently JAC has already agreed to terms with us

I think it would do a lot of us a solid if one of these guys replied with update..... I for one have been getting more and more excited about him possibly coming here and hearing others are now interested just makes me feel sick.. Same thing happened last year with LM so I should learn but i'm a dreamer.. :grinning:

Stay strong jonesy. I worry for you, "feeling sick" over recruitment and retention is a concern, esp. as a Tigers fan. It's just sport.

I know right. I would love him to come, but I don’t let it take over my life. I made that mistake during the big 4 negotiations. I’d wake up every morning and the first thing I’d do is check the forum for any bit of news. It consumed me . Then when everyone left I was gutted, and as a result really killed my enthusiasm and it’s never fully recovered. It’s not healthy to be that fully invested. There’s more to life.

100% exactly the same.

 

[ElleryHanley]

It is worth noting that the Cleary did not rate DWZ and the group also did not like him. Barret is coming straight from Penrith, so he would be well up to speed on the reasons Penrith wanted him gone.

One thing other clubs do MUCH better than us with players they want to move on is they basically tell them "you will be in state cup for years". Look at Ricky Stuart, who has openly said he threatens players with years of meaningless footy.

We really should be a lot of tougher...we have told so many players they are not wanted the past couple of years, but they all stay in the squad.

So, Dogs will likely be ruthless with this. I can't see them getting JAC unless DWZ is offloaded. Let's hope no one bites.

 

[Aceshigh]

Some people are off their rockers , how on earth would anyone say DWZ is a like for like swap to the Storm , Not happening

 

[ElleryHanley]

Some people are off their rockers , how on earth would anyone say DWZ is a like for like swap to the Storm , Not happening

Is there a legit "like for like" swap out there? There is simply no one like JAC or, indeed, their other winger also.

 

[851]

NineSportNRL
19.10.2020

Bulldogs reportedly in box seat to sign Storm grand final winger Josh Addo-Carr


The Bulldogs have become favourites to sign Storm winger Josh Addo-Carr, a new report says.

The Daily Telegraph reported that Addo-Carr was a big chance to play for a grand final opponent next season, with Panthers assistant Trent Barrett taking over as Canterbury head coach. Addo-Carr, the NSW Origin and Australian Test winger, is a Barrett fan.

Addo-Carr is seeking a move back to Sydney for family reasons. The Rabbitohs and Wests Tigers are also in the mix for his signature.

It has been reported that he wants to play fullback; it is unclear what position he may play at the Bulldogs. The struggling club has already signed Canberra winger Nick Cotric for next season, though he could play in the centres.

The Storm granted Addo-Carr a release on the proviso that it gained a comparable player in return from his new club. That sticking point will need to be worked out in the ongoing negotiations.
Storm winger Josh Addo-Carr in action during his team's preliminary final win over Canberra. (Getty)

Addo-Carr is leaving all negotiations to his management, aiming to enjoy a winning farewell with Melbourne in the looming grand final.

"I made the decision to put all that stuff behind me and really focus on the finals series," he told The Sunday Footy Show.

"My manager and the Melbourne Storm are really working their backsides off to get this deal


What this report says to me (particularly with the Pom news) is that the Tigers have made the right offer, sounds about right. If the Dogs drop out of the clouds and poach him it is ONLY about $$$ and the Tigers are right and doing the right thing letting it go.

Wont stop a lot of hand wringing here about how terrible we are because we let another one slip, but at the end of the day, to me , the club is going about this in a professional manner.

Whilst I somewhat agree, if we miss out on JAC to the dogs, we will cop it in the press big time about how the club is a mess. I think the JAC signing has more riding on it for the club’s future than many people realise, miss another one and we will be highlighted as a club to avoid

Honestly, how could anyone possibly take a narrative that Tigers are a mess, if Addo-Carr joins Bulldogs?

Anyone joining Bulldogs shows that "being a mess" has nothing to do with it, because Bulldogs are the most disrupted and poorly-performing club going around. Broncos, at least, still have huge business in Brisbane and very solid support. Bulldogs have just gone through another board, sacked a coach and hired a new one who was sacked from his last appointment, were saved from the spoon only by F/A and have nothing doing in their spine for yet another year.

Bulldogs won 3 games in 2020. So people can run the "even Bulldogs can sign players why can't Tigers" line, but in making those signings Bulldogs have only being digging deeper and deeper holes for themselves, because they have been poorly-considered, badly funded signings, and the players who join are going backwards.

If you think we won't get bad press if we miss signing JAC you are delusional, the media will have a field day, lead by Creepy Crawly.
My point, the dogs who are a complete shambles sign players and we miss out, if that happens we are in for a rough ride for quite some time with the media.

 

[851]

Souths have AJ who is a left winger, Easts have Tupou who is a left winger, I should feel confident, but I read today that Parra and WestsTigers were the 2 hardest teams to deal with according to player managers, why is it we can't get our crap together

Why is it you believe the paper immediately when a comment is made?

Maybe Tigers are just being money conscious. Maybe a player manager or two has an axe to grind. Maybe it's all made up.

How did you come to that conclusion, where have I said that, you need to re read my posts. I said Rothfield could have made it up, and if this happens, big difference

Here:
>but I read today that Parra and WestsTigers were the 2 hardest teams to deal with according to player managers, why is it we can’t get our crap together

If I misunderstood I apologised. But it reads: WT are one of two hardest teams to deal with, why can't we get our crap together?

I asked why you assume that is true.

A few posts before I said "if this happens", and "Rothfield probably just makes up crap".

 

[ElleryHanley]

NineSportNRL
19.10.2020

Bulldogs reportedly in box seat to sign Storm grand final winger Josh Addo-Carr


The Bulldogs have become favourites to sign Storm winger Josh Addo-Carr, a new report says.

The Daily Telegraph reported that Addo-Carr was a big chance to play for a grand final opponent next season, with Panthers assistant Trent Barrett taking over as Canterbury head coach. Addo-Carr, the NSW Origin and Australian Test winger, is a Barrett fan.

Addo-Carr is seeking a move back to Sydney for family reasons. The Rabbitohs and Wests Tigers are also in the mix for his signature.

It has been reported that he wants to play fullback; it is unclear what position he may play at the Bulldogs. The struggling club has already signed Canberra winger Nick Cotric for next season, though he could play in the centres.

The Storm granted Addo-Carr a release on the proviso that it gained a comparable player in return from his new club. That sticking point will need to be worked out in the ongoing negotiations.
Storm winger Josh Addo-Carr in action during his team's preliminary final win over Canberra. (Getty)

Addo-Carr is leaving all negotiations to his management, aiming to enjoy a winning farewell with Melbourne in the looming grand final.

"I made the decision to put all that stuff behind me and really focus on the finals series," he told The Sunday Footy Show.

"My manager and the Melbourne Storm are really working their backsides off to get this deal


What this report says to me (particularly with the Pom news) is that the Tigers have made the right offer, sounds about right. If the Dogs drop out of the clouds and poach him it is ONLY about $$$ and the Tigers are right and doing the right thing letting it go.

Wont stop a lot of hand wringing here about how terrible we are because we let another one slip, but at the end of the day, to me , the club is going about this in a professional manner.

Whilst I somewhat agree, if we miss out on JAC to the dogs, we will cop it in the press big time about how the club is a mess. I think the JAC signing has more riding on it for the club’s future than many people realise, miss another one and we will be highlighted as a club to avoid

Honestly, how could anyone possibly take a narrative that Tigers are a mess, if Addo-Carr joins Bulldogs?

Anyone joining Bulldogs shows that "being a mess" has nothing to do with it, because Bulldogs are the most disrupted and poorly-performing club going around. Broncos, at least, still have huge business in Brisbane and very solid support. Bulldogs have just gone through another board, sacked a coach and hired a new one who was sacked from his last appointment, were saved from the spoon only by F/A and have nothing doing in their spine for yet another year.

Bulldogs won 3 games in 2020. So people can run the "even Bulldogs can sign players why can't Tigers" line, but in making those signings Bulldogs have only being digging deeper and deeper holes for themselves, because they have been poorly-considered, badly funded signings, and the players who join are going backwards.

If you think we won't get bad press if we miss signing JAC you are delusional, the media will have a field day, lead by Creepy Crawly.
My point, the dogs who are a complete shambles sign players and we miss out, if that happens we are in for a rough ride for quite some time with the media.

Dogs have never had trouble recruiting though. They have landed rep players no matter whether they are last or in the semis.

For whatever reason, we have never been able to land current origin and kangaroo rep players. JAC would be the first current Kangaroo we have landed.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

It is worth noting that the Cleary did not rate DWZ and the group also did not like him. Barret is coming straight from Penrith, so he would be well up to speed on the reasons Penrith wanted him gone.

One thing other clubs do MUCH better than us with players they want to move on is they basically tell them "you will be in state cup for years". Look at Ricky Stuart, who has openly said he threatens players with years of meaningless footy.

We really should be a lot of tougher...we have told so many players they are not wanted the past couple of years, but they all stay in the squad.

So, Dogs will likely be ruthless with this. I can't see them getting JAC unless DWZ is offloaded. Let's hope no one bites.

We did tell one player he’d play reserve grade one time. Started WW3

 

[ElleryHanley]

It is worth noting that the Cleary did not rate DWZ and the group also did not like him. Barret is coming straight from Penrith, so he would be well up to speed on the reasons Penrith wanted him gone.

One thing other clubs do MUCH better than us with players they want to move on is they basically tell them "you will be in state cup for years". Look at Ricky Stuart, who has openly said he threatens players with years of meaningless footy.

We really should be a lot of tougher...we have told so many players they are not wanted the past couple of years, but they all stay in the squad.

So, Dogs will likely be ruthless with this. I can't see them getting JAC unless DWZ is offloaded. Let's hope no one bites.


We did tell one player he’d play reserve grade one time. Started WW3

Haha yeah....we have always been soft like that.

Even this year the whole "eggshells" stuff. Can you imagine players calling a meeting like that under Bennet or Bellamy? Or Ricky? not a chance.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

It is worth noting that the Cleary did not rate DWZ and the group also did not like him. Barret is coming straight from Penrith, so he would be well up to speed on the reasons Penrith wanted him gone.

One thing other clubs do MUCH better than us with players they want to move on is they basically tell them "you will be in state cup for years". Look at Ricky Stuart, who has openly said he threatens players with years of meaningless footy.

We really should be a lot of tougher...we have told so many players they are not wanted the past couple of years, but they all stay in the squad.

So, Dogs will likely be ruthless with this. I can't see them getting JAC unless DWZ is offloaded. Let's hope no one bites.


We did tell one player he’d play reserve grade one time. Started WW3

Haha yeah....we have always been soft like that.

Even this year the whole "eggshells" stuff. Can you imagine players calling a meeting like that under Bennet or Bellamy? Or Ricky? not a chance.

Our playing group probably would.

 

[OzLuke]

Some people are off their rockers , how on earth would anyone say DWZ is a like for like swap to the Storm , Not happening

Is there a legit "like for like" swap out there? There is simply no one like JAC or, indeed, their other winger also.

Yeah if the dogs want to send cotric straight down to melbourne....

 

[JD Tiger]

NineSportNRL
19.10.2020

Bulldogs reportedly in box seat to sign Storm grand final winger Josh Addo-Carr


The Bulldogs have become favourites to sign Storm winger Josh Addo-Carr, a new report says.

The Daily Telegraph reported that Addo-Carr was a big chance to play for a grand final opponent next season, with Panthers assistant Trent Barrett taking over as Canterbury head coach. Addo-Carr, the NSW Origin and Australian Test winger, is a Barrett fan.

Addo-Carr is seeking a move back to Sydney for family reasons. The Rabbitohs and Wests Tigers are also in the mix for his signature.

It has been reported that he wants to play fullback; it is unclear what position he may play at the Bulldogs. The struggling club has already signed Canberra winger Nick Cotric for next season, though he could play in the centres.

The Storm granted Addo-Carr a release on the proviso that it gained a comparable player in return from his new club. That sticking point will need to be worked out in the ongoing negotiations.
Storm winger Josh Addo-Carr in action during his team's preliminary final win over Canberra. (Getty)

Addo-Carr is leaving all negotiations to his management, aiming to enjoy a winning farewell with Melbourne in the looming grand final.

"I made the decision to put all that stuff behind me and really focus on the finals series," he told The Sunday Footy Show.

"My manager and the Melbourne Storm are really working their backsides off to get this deal


What this report says to me (particularly with the Pom news) is that the Tigers have made the right offer, sounds about right. If the Dogs drop out of the clouds and poach him it is ONLY about $$$ and the Tigers are right and doing the right thing letting it go.

Wont stop a lot of hand wringing here about how terrible we are because we let another one slip, but at the end of the day, to me , the club is going about this in a professional manner.

Whilst I somewhat agree, if we miss out on JAC to the dogs, we will cop it in the press big time about how the club is a mess. I think the JAC signing has more riding on it for the club’s future than many people realise, miss another one and we will be highlighted as a club to avoid

Honestly, how could anyone possibly take a narrative that Tigers are a mess, if Addo-Carr joins Bulldogs?

Anyone joining Bulldogs shows that "being a mess" has nothing to do with it, because Bulldogs are the most disrupted and poorly-performing club going around. Broncos, at least, still have huge business in Brisbane and very solid support. Bulldogs have just gone through another board, sacked a coach and hired a new one who was sacked from his last appointment, were saved from the spoon only by F/A and have nothing doing in their spine for yet another year.

Bulldogs won 3 games in 2020. So people can run the "even Bulldogs can sign players why can't Tigers" line, but in making those signings Bulldogs have only being digging deeper and deeper holes for themselves, because they have been poorly-considered, badly funded signings, and the players who join are going backwards.

If you think we won't get bad press if we miss signing JAC you are delusional, the media will have a field day, lead by Creepy Crawly.
My point, the dogs who are a complete shambles sign players and we miss out, if that happens we are in for a rough ride for quite some time with the media.

Unfortunately, I totally agree. We don't have many friends in the media, if any. Braith doesn't do us any favours, the commentators in games barely mention us, and very rarely say anything positive about us, guys like Buzz and Crawley stick the boot in every chance they get. Maybe that one Chammas bloke at SMH, but that'd be it.

WT has had terrible recruitment for years, and though we think it's turning around under Madge, there's no results that indicate that yet. We finished lower this year than last year. We targeted (apparently) a few players within the last year, and lost out on most of them. How many players have gone to the Dogs in recent years, whereas we would have liked them? (Yes, I am not privy to whether WT actually offered contracts or were even in talks with them, but the media said we were, and the media says we were beaten for their signatures.)

DWZ, Nick Meaney, Hetherington, Corey Harawira-Naera. Add JAC to that list and you can bet they will emphasis our embarrassment.