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@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254317) said:
@hsvjones said in [JAC](/post/1254303) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254284) said:
@hsvjones said in [JAC](/post/1254275) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254263) said:
@Red88_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1254238) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254235) said:
@TigerWest said in [JAC](/post/1254232) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254210) said:
Sorry for flooding the thread with replies, just don't get this deadline nonsense.

Well, as I understand it, we legally can’t move anywhere else until he accepts or declines it, or we cancel it. He could keep us on tender hooks for weeks thinking he’s coming, while miss other opportunities.

I think a deadline is appropriate and generally inserted in all contracts.

He must know, if he wants in or not, by now.
Maybe he has to wait to Nov 1, then he should advise us on that date what he’s doing or we walk.

E.G. What would happen if we resigned Teddy (big dollars) then the next day JAC says OK I will accept your offer and we had did nothing about it?

People are talking about giving him a deadline that is before he can actually sign for us without a release, that is madness. Just because you have an offer in for someone doesn't mean you stop negotiating with others. If talks are progressing well with another player and you decide to go in a different direction that is when you withdraw JAC's offer.

if he doesn’t sign on for 2022 come November 1 as he has supposedly agreed to terms previously then I’m pretty sure the club will know where they stand

I think they have a pretty good idea already.

Agree... Do you think we increase our offer by 50-100k to make it happen? If you asked me that question 4 months ago I would of said NO way. However after the way he has beefed up and seems to be getting involved more for the storm I really do think he will become a great FB once he settles in. If he is successful at FB he will be getting the higher money anyway but because we are not the most attractive club maybe we need to add the extra money now or remove the clauses regarding games played there as advised.

I'd offer him a bit more but we also have to be careful that we don't end up in a situation where he comes but has one eye looking elsewhere waiting for an opportunity to arise where a position comes available elsewhere. What would be worse than missing him would be to get him and then have him leave when a position at the club he wants to be at becomes available.

I believe we have offered a 3 or 4 year deal so should give us plenty of time wrap him up in our web :grinning: :grinning:

Not if he pulls a Matterson. Which is unlikely but he is already leaving one contract early.

As much as he is a bit immature at times I don't see him doing a Matterson. If he was like that he would of done that last off-season when he wanted back to Sydney.
 
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254317) said:
@hsvjones said in [JAC](/post/1254303) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254284) said:
@hsvjones said in [JAC](/post/1254275) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254263) said:
@Red88_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1254238) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254235) said:
@TigerWest said in [JAC](/post/1254232) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254210) said:
Sorry for flooding the thread with replies, just don't get this deadline nonsense.

Well, as I understand it, we legally can’t move anywhere else until he accepts or declines it, or we cancel it. He could keep us on tender hooks for weeks thinking he’s coming, while miss other opportunities.

I think a deadline is appropriate and generally inserted in all contracts.

He must know, if he wants in or not, by now.
Maybe he has to wait to Nov 1, then he should advise us on that date what he’s doing or we walk.

E.G. What would happen if we resigned Teddy (big dollars) then the next day JAC says OK I will accept your offer and we had did nothing about it?

People are talking about giving him a deadline that is before he can actually sign for us without a release, that is madness. Just because you have an offer in for someone doesn't mean you stop negotiating with others. If talks are progressing well with another player and you decide to go in a different direction that is when you withdraw JAC's offer.

if he doesn’t sign on for 2022 come November 1 as he has supposedly agreed to terms previously then I’m pretty sure the club will know where they stand

I think they have a pretty good idea already.

Agree... Do you think we increase our offer by 50-100k to make it happen? If you asked me that question 4 months ago I would of said NO way. However after the way he has beefed up and seems to be getting involved more for the storm I really do think he will become a great FB once he settles in. If he is successful at FB he will be getting the higher money anyway but because we are not the most attractive club maybe we need to add the extra money now or remove the clauses regarding games played there as advised.

I'd offer him a bit more but we also have to be careful that we don't end up in a situation where he comes but has one eye looking elsewhere waiting for an opportunity to arise where a position comes available elsewhere. What would be worse than missing him would be to get him and then have him leave when a position at the club he wants to be at becomes available.

I believe we have offered a 3 or 4 year deal so should give us plenty of time wrap him up in our web :grinning: :grinning:

Not if he pulls a Matterson. Which is unlikely but he is already leaving one contract early.

The club wouldn't tolerate that scenario a 2nd time around.

We wouldn't let another player go without compensation of some sort, regardless of negative backlash...
 
@hsvjones said in [JAC](/post/1254323) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254317) said:
@hsvjones said in [JAC](/post/1254303) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254284) said:
@hsvjones said in [JAC](/post/1254275) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254263) said:
@Red88_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1254238) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254235) said:
@TigerWest said in [JAC](/post/1254232) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254210) said:
Sorry for flooding the thread with replies, just don't get this deadline nonsense.

Well, as I understand it, we legally can’t move anywhere else until he accepts or declines it, or we cancel it. He could keep us on tender hooks for weeks thinking he’s coming, while miss other opportunities.

I think a deadline is appropriate and generally inserted in all contracts.

He must know, if he wants in or not, by now.
Maybe he has to wait to Nov 1, then he should advise us on that date what he’s doing or we walk.

E.G. What would happen if we resigned Teddy (big dollars) then the next day JAC says OK I will accept your offer and we had did nothing about it?

People are talking about giving him a deadline that is before he can actually sign for us without a release, that is madness. Just because you have an offer in for someone doesn't mean you stop negotiating with others. If talks are progressing well with another player and you decide to go in a different direction that is when you withdraw JAC's offer.

if he doesn’t sign on for 2022 come November 1 as he has supposedly agreed to terms previously then I’m pretty sure the club will know where they stand

I think they have a pretty good idea already.

Agree... Do you think we increase our offer by 50-100k to make it happen? If you asked me that question 4 months ago I would of said NO way. However after the way he has beefed up and seems to be getting involved more for the storm I really do think he will become a great FB once he settles in. If he is successful at FB he will be getting the higher money anyway but because we are not the most attractive club maybe we need to add the extra money now or remove the clauses regarding games played there as advised.

I'd offer him a bit more but we also have to be careful that we don't end up in a situation where he comes but has one eye looking elsewhere waiting for an opportunity to arise where a position comes available elsewhere. What would be worse than missing him would be to get him and then have him leave when a position at the club he wants to be at becomes available.

I believe we have offered a 3 or 4 year deal so should give us plenty of time wrap him up in our web :grinning: :grinning:

Not if he pulls a Matterson. Which is unlikely but he is already leaving one contract early.

As much as he is a bit immature at times I don't see him doing a Matterson. If he was like that he would of done that last off-season when he wanted back to Sydney.

I agree but hopefully if he comes its because he wants to be here.
 
@Aesopian said in [JAC](/post/1254324) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254317) said:
@hsvjones said in [JAC](/post/1254303) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254284) said:
@hsvjones said in [JAC](/post/1254275) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254263) said:
@Red88_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1254238) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254235) said:
@TigerWest said in [JAC](/post/1254232) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254210) said:
Sorry for flooding the thread with replies, just don't get this deadline nonsense.

Well, as I understand it, we legally can’t move anywhere else until he accepts or declines it, or we cancel it. He could keep us on tender hooks for weeks thinking he’s coming, while miss other opportunities.

I think a deadline is appropriate and generally inserted in all contracts.

He must know, if he wants in or not, by now.
Maybe he has to wait to Nov 1, then he should advise us on that date what he’s doing or we walk.

E.G. What would happen if we resigned Teddy (big dollars) then the next day JAC says OK I will accept your offer and we had did nothing about it?

People are talking about giving him a deadline that is before he can actually sign for us without a release, that is madness. Just because you have an offer in for someone doesn't mean you stop negotiating with others. If talks are progressing well with another player and you decide to go in a different direction that is when you withdraw JAC's offer.

if he doesn’t sign on for 2022 come November 1 as he has supposedly agreed to terms previously then I’m pretty sure the club will know where they stand

I think they have a pretty good idea already.

Agree... Do you think we increase our offer by 50-100k to make it happen? If you asked me that question 4 months ago I would of said NO way. However after the way he has beefed up and seems to be getting involved more for the storm I really do think he will become a great FB once he settles in. If he is successful at FB he will be getting the higher money anyway but because we are not the most attractive club maybe we need to add the extra money now or remove the clauses regarding games played there as advised.

I'd offer him a bit more but we also have to be careful that we don't end up in a situation where he comes but has one eye looking elsewhere waiting for an opportunity to arise where a position comes available elsewhere. What would be worse than missing him would be to get him and then have him leave when a position at the club he wants to be at becomes available.

I believe we have offered a 3 or 4 year deal so should give us plenty of time wrap him up in our web :grinning: :grinning:

Not if he pulls a Matterson. Which is unlikely but he is already leaving one contract early.

The club wouldn't tolerate that scenario a 2nd time around.

We wouldn't let another player go without compensation of some sort, regardless of negative backlash...

I think the club was happy with the outcome with JAC.
 
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254327) said:
@Aesopian said in [JAC](/post/1254324) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254317) said:
@hsvjones said in [JAC](/post/1254303) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254284) said:
@hsvjones said in [JAC](/post/1254275) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254263) said:
@Red88_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1254238) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254235) said:
@TigerWest said in [JAC](/post/1254232) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254210) said:
Sorry for flooding the thread with replies, just don't get this deadline nonsense.

Well, as I understand it, we legally can’t move anywhere else until he accepts or declines it, or we cancel it. He could keep us on tender hooks for weeks thinking he’s coming, while miss other opportunities.

I think a deadline is appropriate and generally inserted in all contracts.

He must know, if he wants in or not, by now.
Maybe he has to wait to Nov 1, then he should advise us on that date what he’s doing or we walk.

E.G. What would happen if we resigned Teddy (big dollars) then the next day JAC says OK I will accept your offer and we had did nothing about it?

People are talking about giving him a deadline that is before he can actually sign for us without a release, that is madness. Just because you have an offer in for someone doesn't mean you stop negotiating with others. If talks are progressing well with another player and you decide to go in a different direction that is when you withdraw JAC's offer.

if he doesn’t sign on for 2022 come November 1 as he has supposedly agreed to terms previously then I’m pretty sure the club will know where they stand

I think they have a pretty good idea already.

Agree... Do you think we increase our offer by 50-100k to make it happen? If you asked me that question 4 months ago I would of said NO way. However after the way he has beefed up and seems to be getting involved more for the storm I really do think he will become a great FB once he settles in. If he is successful at FB he will be getting the higher money anyway but because we are not the most attractive club maybe we need to add the extra money now or remove the clauses regarding games played there as advised.

I'd offer him a bit more but we also have to be careful that we don't end up in a situation where he comes but has one eye looking elsewhere waiting for an opportunity to arise where a position comes available elsewhere. What would be worse than missing him would be to get him and then have him leave when a position at the club he wants to be at becomes available.

I believe we have offered a 3 or 4 year deal so should give us plenty of time wrap him up in our web :grinning: :grinning:

Not if he pulls a Matterson. Which is unlikely but he is already leaving one contract early.

The club wouldn't tolerate that scenario a 2nd time around.

We wouldn't let another player go without compensation of some sort, regardless of negative backlash...

I think the club was happy with the outcome with JAC.

Which outcome? Nothing is set in stone yet
 
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254104) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [JAC](/post/1254103) said:
@2005magic said in [JAC](/post/1254081) said:
Seems giving them time only works against us. Take it or leave it with a set withdraw of offer date. In the interim continue looking for good players stuck behind better players at their existing club.

I don't understand this POV in relation to JAC.

Hi is not legally able to sign anything until 1 November, and even then he is only able to sign for 2022.

Apparently we and his management have agreed to terms.

So what is the point of threatening to withdraw the offer before he is legally able to sign it?


Because we are a laughing stock apparently. No idea why we are supposedly a laughing stock but the other clubs chasing him are not. No one has signed him yet. Some fans have self esteem issues I think.


And some are happy to miss the Semis 9 year in a row. Were all different.
 
@JD-Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1254321) said:
According to what we've heard on here, JAC already agreed to our terms a few weeks ago. Apparently after that he may have went a bit cold. But come Nov 1, he has agreed to terms already, so we show him the contract (starting from 2022 if need be) and he either signs or doesn't. If not, we ask him why not sign, is it some issue that can be worked out? If not, and he wants to go elsewhere, then fine, good luck, on your bike.

I don't see any reason why this potential signing should continue through the upcoming weeks. State of Origin? No, he can still move his hand and sign a piece of paper.

Hoping we get a resolution in this soon, and if not, then I think the club has learnt nothing from Dogshot Mitchell last year.

Aren't they in lockdown again (the SOO players )
 
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1254332) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254104) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [JAC](/post/1254103) said:
@2005magic said in [JAC](/post/1254081) said:
Seems giving them time only works against us. Take it or leave it with a set withdraw of offer date. In the interim continue looking for good players stuck behind better players at their existing club.

I don't understand this POV in relation to JAC.

Hi is not legally able to sign anything until 1 November, and even then he is only able to sign for 2022.

Apparently we and his management have agreed to terms.

So what is the point of threatening to withdraw the offer before he is legally able to sign it?


Because we are a laughing stock apparently. No idea why we are supposedly a laughing stock but the other clubs chasing him are not. No one has signed him yet. Some fans have self esteem issues I think.


And some are happy to miss the Semis 9 year in a row. Were all different.


What the hell does that have to do with anything?

EDIT: LOL at the downvote, but how about just explaining how fan hysteria will improve our position.
 
@Aesopian said in [JAC](/post/1254328) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254327) said:
@Aesopian said in [JAC](/post/1254324) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254317) said:
@hsvjones said in [JAC](/post/1254303) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254284) said:
@hsvjones said in [JAC](/post/1254275) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254263) said:
@Red88_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1254238) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254235) said:
@TigerWest said in [JAC](/post/1254232) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254210) said:
Sorry for flooding the thread with replies, just don't get this deadline nonsense.

Well, as I understand it, we legally can’t move anywhere else until he accepts or declines it, or we cancel it. He could keep us on tender hooks for weeks thinking he’s coming, while miss other opportunities.

I think a deadline is appropriate and generally inserted in all contracts.

He must know, if he wants in or not, by now.
Maybe he has to wait to Nov 1, then he should advise us on that date what he’s doing or we walk.

E.G. What would happen if we resigned Teddy (big dollars) then the next day JAC says OK I will accept your offer and we had did nothing about it?

People are talking about giving him a deadline that is before he can actually sign for us without a release, that is madness. Just because you have an offer in for someone doesn't mean you stop negotiating with others. If talks are progressing well with another player and you decide to go in a different direction that is when you withdraw JAC's offer.

if he doesn’t sign on for 2022 come November 1 as he has supposedly agreed to terms previously then I’m pretty sure the club will know where they stand

I think they have a pretty good idea already.

Agree... Do you think we increase our offer by 50-100k to make it happen? If you asked me that question 4 months ago I would of said NO way. However after the way he has beefed up and seems to be getting involved more for the storm I really do think he will become a great FB once he settles in. If he is successful at FB he will be getting the higher money anyway but because we are not the most attractive club maybe we need to add the extra money now or remove the clauses regarding games played there as advised.

I'd offer him a bit more but we also have to be careful that we don't end up in a situation where he comes but has one eye looking elsewhere waiting for an opportunity to arise where a position comes available elsewhere. What would be worse than missing him would be to get him and then have him leave when a position at the club he wants to be at becomes available.

I believe we have offered a 3 or 4 year deal so should give us plenty of time wrap him up in our web :grinning: :grinning:

Not if he pulls a Matterson. Which is unlikely but he is already leaving one contract early.

The club wouldn't tolerate that scenario a 2nd time around.

We wouldn't let another player go without compensation of some sort, regardless of negative backlash...

I think the club was happy with the outcome with JAC.

Which outcome? Nothing is set in stone yet

Sorry meant Matterson. I'm tired tonight, started a new job last week.
 
@JD-Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1254321) said:
According to what we've heard on here, JAC already agreed to our terms a few weeks ago. Apparently after that he may have went a bit cold. But come Nov 1, he has agreed to terms already, so we show him the contract (starting from 2022 if need be) and he either signs or doesn't. If not, we ask him why not sign, is it some issue that can be worked out? If not, and he wants to go elsewhere, then fine, good luck, on your bike.

Nov 1 he will be in camp with the SOO squad.

I don't see any reason why this potential signing should continue through the upcoming weeks. State of Origin? No, he can still move his hand and sign a piece of paper.


Maybe it wouldnt suit the club to announce his signing without the fanfare?
 
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1254332) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254104) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [JAC](/post/1254103) said:
@2005magic said in [JAC](/post/1254081) said:
Seems giving them time only works against us. Take it or leave it with a set withdraw of offer date. In the interim continue looking for good players stuck behind better players at their existing club.

I don't understand this POV in relation to JAC.

Hi is not legally able to sign anything until 1 November, and even then he is only able to sign for 2022.

Apparently we and his management have agreed to terms.

So what is the point of threatening to withdraw the offer before he is legally able to sign it?


Because we are a laughing stock apparently. No idea why we are supposedly a laughing stock but the other clubs chasing him are not. No one has signed him yet. Some fans have self esteem issues I think.


And some are happy to miss the Semis 9 year in a row. Were all different.

Can you give me their names please ?
 
@Aesopian said in [JAC](/post/1254324) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254317) said:
@hsvjones said in [JAC](/post/1254303) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254284) said:
@hsvjones said in [JAC](/post/1254275) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254263) said:
@Red88_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1254238) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254235) said:
@TigerWest said in [JAC](/post/1254232) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1254210) said:
Sorry for flooding the thread with replies, just don't get this deadline nonsense.

Well, as I understand it, we legally can’t move anywhere else until he accepts or declines it, or we cancel it. He could keep us on tender hooks for weeks thinking he’s coming, while miss other opportunities.

I think a deadline is appropriate and generally inserted in all contracts.

He must know, if he wants in or not, by now.
Maybe he has to wait to Nov 1, then he should advise us on that date what he’s doing or we walk.

E.G. What would happen if we resigned Teddy (big dollars) then the next day JAC says OK I will accept your offer and we had did nothing about it?

People are talking about giving him a deadline that is before he can actually sign for us without a release, that is madness. Just because you have an offer in for someone doesn't mean you stop negotiating with others. If talks are progressing well with another player and you decide to go in a different direction that is when you withdraw JAC's offer.

if he doesn’t sign on for 2022 come November 1 as he has supposedly agreed to terms previously then I’m pretty sure the club will know where they stand

I think they have a pretty good idea already.

Agree... Do you think we increase our offer by 50-100k to make it happen? If you asked me that question 4 months ago I would of said NO way. However after the way he has beefed up and seems to be getting involved more for the storm I really do think he will become a great FB once he settles in. If he is successful at FB he will be getting the higher money anyway but because we are not the most attractive club maybe we need to add the extra money now or remove the clauses regarding games played there as advised.

I'd offer him a bit more but we also have to be careful that we don't end up in a situation where he comes but has one eye looking elsewhere waiting for an opportunity to arise where a position comes available elsewhere. What would be worse than missing him would be to get him and then have him leave when a position at the club he wants to be at becomes available.

I believe we have offered a 3 or 4 year deal so should give us plenty of time wrap him up in our web :grinning: :grinning:

Not if he pulls a Matterson. Which is unlikely but he is already leaving one contract early.

The club wouldn't tolerate that scenario a 2nd time around.

We wouldn't let another player go without compensation of some sort, regardless of negative backlash...

Hardball is not our caper, we absolutely suck at it.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254335) said:
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1254332) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254104) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [JAC](/post/1254103) said:
@2005magic said in [JAC](/post/1254081) said:
Seems giving them time only works against us. Take it or leave it with a set withdraw of offer date. In the interim continue looking for good players stuck behind better players at their existing club.

I don't understand this POV in relation to JAC.

Hi is not legally able to sign anything until 1 November, and even then he is only able to sign for 2022.

Apparently we and his management have agreed to terms.

So what is the point of threatening to withdraw the offer before he is legally able to sign it?


Because we are a laughing stock apparently. No idea why we are supposedly a laughing stock but the other clubs chasing him are not. No one has signed him yet. Some fans have self esteem issues I think.


And some are happy to miss the Semis 9 year in a row. Were all different.


What the hell does that have to do with anything?


I called our Club a laughing stock, you obviously disagree. You can’t defend a Club that hasn’t made Semis since 2011. The last time we were positioned to be active in the player market we butchered it. The guy who hired the 2 fools who’ve screwed us is still in charge, so why will this time be any different
 
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1254342) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254335) said:
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1254332) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254104) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [JAC](/post/1254103) said:
@2005magic said in [JAC](/post/1254081) said:
Seems giving them time only works against us. Take it or leave it with a set withdraw of offer date. In the interim continue looking for good players stuck behind better players at their existing club.

I don't understand this POV in relation to JAC.

Hi is not legally able to sign anything until 1 November, and even then he is only able to sign for 2022.

Apparently we and his management have agreed to terms.

So what is the point of threatening to withdraw the offer before he is legally able to sign it?


Because we are a laughing stock apparently. No idea why we are supposedly a laughing stock but the other clubs chasing him are not. No one has signed him yet. Some fans have self esteem issues I think.


And some are happy to miss the Semis 9 year in a row. Were all different.


What the hell does that have to do with anything?


I called our Club a laughing stock, you obviously disagree. You can’t defend a Club that hasn’t made Semis since 2011. The last time we were positioned to be active in the player market we butchered it. The guy who hired the 2 fools who’ve screwed us is still in charge, so why will this time be any different


You said we were a laughing stock based on the negotiations with JAC. Explain to me why people are laughing at us, but not at Souffs or Bulldogs who are also chasing him but havent signed him?

After you explain that you can explain what the negotiations with JAC have to do with our lack of success over the last 9 years.

>The last time we were positioned to be active in the player market we butchered it. The guy who hired the 2 fools who’ve screwed us is still in charge, so why will this time be any different.

ummmm.....because the "two fools" who screwed us are no longer here and there are two completely different people negotiating. Is that a good enough reason that it will be different? Was it a trick question?
 
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254344) said:
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1254342) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254335) said:
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1254332) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254104) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [JAC](/post/1254103) said:
@2005magic said in [JAC](/post/1254081) said:
Seems giving them time only works against us. Take it or leave it with a set withdraw of offer date. In the interim continue looking for good players stuck behind better players at their existing club.

I don't understand this POV in relation to JAC.

Hi is not legally able to sign anything until 1 November, and even then he is only able to sign for 2022.

Apparently we and his management have agreed to terms.

So what is the point of threatening to withdraw the offer before he is legally able to sign it?


Because we are a laughing stock apparently. No idea why we are supposedly a laughing stock but the other clubs chasing him are not. No one has signed him yet. Some fans have self esteem issues I think.


And some are happy to miss the Semis 9 year in a row. Were all different.


What the hell does that have to do with anything?


I called our Club a laughing stock, you obviously disagree. You can’t defend a Club that hasn’t made Semis since 2011. The last time we were positioned to be active in the player market we butchered it. The guy who hired the 2 fools who’ve screwed us is still in charge, so why will this time be any different


You said we were a laughing stock based on the negotiations with JAC. Explain to me why people are laughing at us, but not at Souffs or Bulldogs who are also chasing him but havent signed him?

After you explain that you can explain what the negotiations with JAC have to do with our lack of success over the last 9 years.

>The last time we were positioned to be active in the player market we butchered it. The guy who hired the 2 fools who’ve screwed us is still in charge, so why will this time be any different.

ummmm.....because the "two fools" who screwed us are no longer here and there are two completely different people negotiating. Is that a good enough reason that it will be different? Was it a trick question?


We’re a laughing stock because of our lack of success, not whether we sign JAC or not. Justin, is that you?
 
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1254345) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254344) said:
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1254342) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254335) said:
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1254332) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254104) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [JAC](/post/1254103) said:
@2005magic said in [JAC](/post/1254081) said:
Seems giving them time only works against us. Take it or leave it with a set withdraw of offer date. In the interim continue looking for good players stuck behind better players at their existing club.

I don't understand this POV in relation to JAC.

Hi is not legally able to sign anything until 1 November, and even then he is only able to sign for 2022.

Apparently we and his management have agreed to terms.

So what is the point of threatening to withdraw the offer before he is legally able to sign it?


Because we are a laughing stock apparently. No idea why we are supposedly a laughing stock but the other clubs chasing him are not. No one has signed him yet. Some fans have self esteem issues I think.


And some are happy to miss the Semis 9 year in a row. Were all different.


What the hell does that have to do with anything?


I called our Club a laughing stock, you obviously disagree. You can’t defend a Club that hasn’t made Semis since 2011. The last time we were positioned to be active in the player market we butchered it. The guy who hired the 2 fools who’ve screwed us is still in charge, so why will this time be any different


You said we were a laughing stock based on the negotiations with JAC. Explain to me why people are laughing at us, but not at Souffs or Bulldogs who are also chasing him but havent signed him?

After you explain that you can explain what the negotiations with JAC have to do with our lack of success over the last 9 years.

>The last time we were positioned to be active in the player market we butchered it. The guy who hired the 2 fools who’ve screwed us is still in charge, so why will this time be any different.

ummmm.....because the "two fools" who screwed us are no longer here and there are two completely different people negotiating. Is that a good enough reason that it will be different? Was it a trick question?


We’re a laughing stock because of our lack of success, not whether we sign JAC or not. Justin, is that you?

And the million stories about us letting go of Teddy, Paps, JAC and the rest. Another one published today. Why doesn’t the club come out and state simple facts?

“We are competing in a competition that is won nearly every year by either Melbourne or the Roosters because they have an advantage in player recruitment” “they poached our best talent because the league allows it” “we are sick of the media’s obsession with our organisation when 13 other clubs can’t beat these pack of cheats either”
 
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1254345) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254344) said:
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1254342) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254335) said:
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1254332) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254104) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [JAC](/post/1254103) said:
@2005magic said in [JAC](/post/1254081) said:
Seems giving them time only works against us. Take it or leave it with a set withdraw of offer date. In the interim continue looking for good players stuck behind better players at their existing club.

I don't understand this POV in relation to JAC.

Hi is not legally able to sign anything until 1 November, and even then he is only able to sign for 2022.

Apparently we and his management have agreed to terms.

So what is the point of threatening to withdraw the offer before he is legally able to sign it?


Because we are a laughing stock apparently. No idea why we are supposedly a laughing stock but the other clubs chasing him are not. No one has signed him yet. Some fans have self esteem issues I think.


And some are happy to miss the Semis 9 year in a row. Were all different.


What the hell does that have to do with anything?


I called our Club a laughing stock, you obviously disagree. You can’t defend a Club that hasn’t made Semis since 2011. The last time we were positioned to be active in the player market we butchered it. The guy who hired the 2 fools who’ve screwed us is still in charge, so why will this time be any different


You said we were a laughing stock based on the negotiations with JAC. Explain to me why people are laughing at us, but not at Souffs or Bulldogs who are also chasing him but havent signed him?

After you explain that you can explain what the negotiations with JAC have to do with our lack of success over the last 9 years.

>The last time we were positioned to be active in the player market we butchered it. The guy who hired the 2 fools who’ve screwed us is still in charge, so why will this time be any different.

ummmm.....because the "two fools" who screwed us are no longer here and there are two completely different people negotiating. Is that a good enough reason that it will be different? Was it a trick question?


We’re a laughing stock because of our lack of success, not whether we sign JAC or not.

Ummmm, my post that you replied to, that obviously got your panties in a bunch was in response to a post regarding setting a deadline for JACs signature.....you know regarding JAC signing or not. That is what we were talking about.

You have just jumped in with some obscure concept about 9 years of no success. Ill give you another chance to add to the discussion, what is the link between issuing a deadline ultimatum to JAC and the last 9 years of no success>
 
@BAGNF05 said in [JAC](/post/1254352) said:
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1254345) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254344) said:
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1254342) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254335) said:
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1254332) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254104) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [JAC](/post/1254103) said:
@2005magic said in [JAC](/post/1254081) said:
Seems giving them time only works against us. Take it or leave it with a set withdraw of offer date. In the interim continue looking for good players stuck behind better players at their existing club.

I don't understand this POV in relation to JAC.

Hi is not legally able to sign anything until 1 November, and even then he is only able to sign for 2022.

Apparently we and his management have agreed to terms.

So what is the point of threatening to withdraw the offer before he is legally able to sign it?


Because we are a laughing stock apparently. No idea why we are supposedly a laughing stock but the other clubs chasing him are not. No one has signed him yet. Some fans have self esteem issues I think.


And some are happy to miss the Semis 9 year in a row. Were all different.


What the hell does that have to do with anything?


I called our Club a laughing stock, you obviously disagree. You can’t defend a Club that hasn’t made Semis since 2011. The last time we were positioned to be active in the player market we butchered it. The guy who hired the 2 fools who’ve screwed us is still in charge, so why will this time be any different


You said we were a laughing stock based on the negotiations with JAC. Explain to me why people are laughing at us, but not at Souffs or Bulldogs who are also chasing him but havent signed him?

After you explain that you can explain what the negotiations with JAC have to do with our lack of success over the last 9 years.

>The last time we were positioned to be active in the player market we butchered it. The guy who hired the 2 fools who’ve screwed us is still in charge, so why will this time be any different.

ummmm.....because the "two fools" who screwed us are no longer here and there are two completely different people negotiating. Is that a good enough reason that it will be different? Was it a trick question?


We’re a laughing stock because of our lack of success, not whether we sign JAC or not. Justin, is that you?

And the million stories about us letting go of Teddy, Paps, JAC and the rest. Another one published today. Why doesn’t the club come out and state simple facts?

“We are competing in a competition that is won nearly every year by either Melbourne or the Roosters because they have an advantage in player recruitment” “they poached our best talent because the league allows it” “we are sick of the media’s obsession with our organisation when 13 other clubs can’t beat these pack of cheats either”


WHat is the link to JAC negotiations?
 
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254357) said:
@BAGNF05 said in [JAC](/post/1254352) said:
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1254345) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254344) said:
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1254342) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254335) said:
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1254332) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254104) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [JAC](/post/1254103) said:
@2005magic said in [JAC](/post/1254081) said:
Seems giving them time only works against us. Take it or leave it with a set withdraw of offer date. In the interim continue looking for good players stuck behind better players at their existing club.

I don't understand this POV in relation to JAC.

Hi is not legally able to sign anything until 1 November, and even then he is only able to sign for 2022.

Apparently we and his management have agreed to terms.

So what is the point of threatening to withdraw the offer before he is legally able to sign it?


Because we are a laughing stock apparently. No idea why we are supposedly a laughing stock but the other clubs chasing him are not. No one has signed him yet. Some fans have self esteem issues I think.


And some are happy to miss the Semis 9 year in a row. Were all different.


What the hell does that have to do with anything?


I called our Club a laughing stock, you obviously disagree. You can’t defend a Club that hasn’t made Semis since 2011. The last time we were positioned to be active in the player market we butchered it. The guy who hired the 2 fools who’ve screwed us is still in charge, so why will this time be any different


You said we were a laughing stock based on the negotiations with JAC. Explain to me why people are laughing at us, but not at Souffs or Bulldogs who are also chasing him but havent signed him?

After you explain that you can explain what the negotiations with JAC have to do with our lack of success over the last 9 years.

>The last time we were positioned to be active in the player market we butchered it. The guy who hired the 2 fools who’ve screwed us is still in charge, so why will this time be any different.

ummmm.....because the "two fools" who screwed us are no longer here and there are two completely different people negotiating. Is that a good enough reason that it will be different? Was it a trick question?


We’re a laughing stock because of our lack of success, not whether we sign JAC or not. Justin, is that you?

And the million stories about us letting go of Teddy, Paps, JAC and the rest. Another one published today. Why doesn’t the club come out and state simple facts?

“We are competing in a competition that is won nearly every year by either Melbourne or the Roosters because they have an advantage in player recruitment” “they poached our best talent because the league allows it” “we are sick of the media’s obsession with our organisation when 13 other clubs can’t beat these pack of cheats either”


WHat is the link to JAC negotiations?

NSW coach giving us an absolute pasting in the media, can’t be a great motivator for JAC to sign on
 
@BAGNF05 said in [JAC](/post/1254361) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254357) said:
@BAGNF05 said in [JAC](/post/1254352) said:
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1254345) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254344) said:
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1254342) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254335) said:
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1254332) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1254104) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [JAC](/post/1254103) said:
@2005magic said in [JAC](/post/1254081) said:
Seems giving them time only works against us. Take it or leave it with a set withdraw of offer date. In the interim continue looking for good players stuck behind better players at their existing club.

I don't understand this POV in relation to JAC.

Hi is not legally able to sign anything until 1 November, and even then he is only able to sign for 2022.

Apparently we and his management have agreed to terms.

So what is the point of threatening to withdraw the offer before he is legally able to sign it?


Because we are a laughing stock apparently. No idea why we are supposedly a laughing stock but the other clubs chasing him are not. No one has signed him yet. Some fans have self esteem issues I think.


And some are happy to miss the Semis 9 year in a row. Were all different.


What the hell does that have to do with anything?


I called our Club a laughing stock, you obviously disagree. You can’t defend a Club that hasn’t made Semis since 2011. The last time we were positioned to be active in the player market we butchered it. The guy who hired the 2 fools who’ve screwed us is still in charge, so why will this time be any different


You said we were a laughing stock based on the negotiations with JAC. Explain to me why people are laughing at us, but not at Souffs or Bulldogs who are also chasing him but havent signed him?

After you explain that you can explain what the negotiations with JAC have to do with our lack of success over the last 9 years.

>The last time we were positioned to be active in the player market we butchered it. The guy who hired the 2 fools who’ve screwed us is still in charge, so why will this time be any different.

ummmm.....because the "two fools" who screwed us are no longer here and there are two completely different people negotiating. Is that a good enough reason that it will be different? Was it a trick question?


We’re a laughing stock because of our lack of success, not whether we sign JAC or not. Justin, is that you?

And the million stories about us letting go of Teddy, Paps, JAC and the rest. Another one published today. Why doesn’t the club come out and state simple facts?

“We are competing in a competition that is won nearly every year by either Melbourne or the Roosters because they have an advantage in player recruitment” “they poached our best talent because the league allows it” “we are sick of the media’s obsession with our organisation when 13 other clubs can’t beat these pack of cheats either”


WHat is the link to JAC negotiations?

NSW coach giving us an absolute pasting in the media, can’t be a great motivator for JAC to sign on


Uh huh, JAC should definitely go and sign with the team that missed the spoon by one win and just sacked their board for the second time in 3 years, because Freddy didnt say bad things about them.
 

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