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@frullens said in [JAC](/post/1261757) said:
Jimmy Smith on SEN said this afternoon that JAC will tell WT at todays meeting that:
1. You can't legally sign a contract before Nov 1
2. He's staying in Melbourne for 12 months
So the HOA is null and void

But, he said WT have signed Daine Laurie for 2022. Hopefully panthers will release him for 2021. He said he us a 'tier 1 sprinter'.

Also said likely to know what Mansour goes today. Which is likely WT.

Hope I've relayed what he said properly.

Like walking into the dealership expecting to buy a Ferrari but getting a Daihatsu Charade instead.
 
@frullens said in [JAC](/post/1261757) said:
Jimmy Smith on SEN said this afternoon that JAC will tell WT at todays meeting that:
1. You can't legally sign a contract before Nov 1
2. He's staying in Melbourne for 12 months
So the HOA is null and void

But, he said WT have signed Daine Laurie for 2022. Hopefully panthers will release him for 2021. He said he us a 'tier 1 sprinter'.

Also said likely to know what Mansour goes today. Which is likely WT.

Hope I've relayed what he said properly.

He was happy to sign the deal in advance probably with storms permission and based on a release

What happens now as well If he gets out of it?

He goes back to Melb and stuff his family which this has been all about or he craps on us and signs with rabbits for 2021?
 
@frullens said in [JAC](/post/1261757) said:
Jimmy Smith on SEN said this afternoon that JAC will tell WT at todays meeting that:
1. You can't legally sign a contract before Nov 1
2. He's staying in Melbourne for 12 months
So the HOA is null and void

But, he said WT have signed Daine Laurie for 2022. Hopefully panthers will release him for 2021. He said he us a 'tier 1 sprinter'.

Also said likely to know what Mansour goes today. Which is likely WT.

Hope I've relayed what he said properly.

I would have hoped that Lee was across item 1.

From my understanding he hasn’t signed a contract but signed a HOA to say that he would when it was available for him to do so?
 
It’s not just because we’ve lost out on his deals, but Matt Rose (player manager) seems like an absolute nightmare to deal with. Does the guy have any idea what he is doing?
 
@TigerWest said in [JAC](/post/1261764) said:
@frullens said in [JAC](/post/1261757) said:
Jimmy Smith on SEN said this afternoon that JAC will tell WT at todays meeting that:
1. You can't legally sign a contract before Nov 1
2. He's staying in Melbourne for 12 months
So the HOA is null and void

But, he said WT have signed Daine Laurie for 2022. Hopefully panthers will release him for 2021. He said he us a 'tier 1 sprinter'.

Also said likely to know what Mansour goes today. Which is likely WT.

Hope I've relayed what he said properly.

I would have hoped that Lee was across item 1.

From my understanding he hasn’t signed a contract but signed a HOA to say that he would when it was available for him to do so?

Storm pushing for a replacement?
 
If we're at the point where we are arguing about whether a HOA is legally binding with his manager, the bird has flown and he's not coming.

Hopefully the reports are wrong.
 
@Spud_Murphy said in [JAC](/post/1261758) said:
@frullens said in [JAC](/post/1261757) said:
Jimmy Smith on SEN said this afternoon that JAC will tell WT at todays meeting that:
1. You can't legally sign a contract before Nov 1
2. He's staying in Melbourne for 12 months
So the HOA is null and void

But, he said WT have signed Daine Laurie for 2022. Hopefully panthers will release him for 2021. He said he us a 'tier 1 sprinter'.

Also said likely to know what Mansour goes today. Which is likely WT.

Hope I've relayed what he said properly.

Who’s Jimmy Smith when he’s at home?

looks like this guy....was a commentator on fox...not sure if he still is
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@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1261766) said:
@TigerWest said in [JAC](/post/1261764) said:
@frullens said in [JAC](/post/1261757) said:
Jimmy Smith on SEN said this afternoon that JAC will tell WT at todays meeting that:
1. You can't legally sign a contract before Nov 1
2. He's staying in Melbourne for 12 months
So the HOA is null and void

But, he said WT have signed Daine Laurie for 2022. Hopefully panthers will release him for 2021. He said he us a 'tier 1 sprinter'.

Also said likely to know what Mansour goes today. Which is likely WT.

Hope I've relayed what he said properly.

I would have hoped that Lee was across item 1.

From my understanding he hasn’t signed a contract but signed a HOA to say that he would when it was available for him to do so?

Storm pushing for a replacement?

so how about we sign this kid from penrith and flip him to storm for an early jac release?

Of course that comes down to penrith not being flogs
 
@frullens said in [JAC](/post/1261757) said:
Jimmy Smith on SEN said this afternoon that JAC will tell WT at todays meeting that:
1. You can't legally sign a contract before Nov 1
2. He's staying in Melbourne for 12 months
So the HOA is null and void

But, he said WT have signed Daine Laurie for 2022. Hopefully panthers will release him for 2021. He said he us a 'tier 1 sprinter'.

Also said likely to know what Mansour goes today. Which is likely WT.

Hope I've relayed what he said properly.

That’s what’s confused me about this HOA. How could the NRL allow JAC to sign a binding document with us if he hasn’t even been released from Melbourne or it’s not November 1st. I don’t see how it has any power to stop him from doing whatever he wants.
 
@Rowdy12 said in [JAC](/post/1261765) said:
It’s not just because we’ve lost out on his deals, but Matt Rose (player manager) seems like an absolute nightmare to deal with. Does the guy have any idea what he is doing?

JAC is represented by Mario Tartak now I think
 
Also for the love of god don’t sign Mansour. I love the bloke always been one of my favourites but we REALLY don’t need him. Don’t see why we would sign another winger anyway
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1261770) said:
@frullens said in [JAC](/post/1261757) said:
Jimmy Smith on SEN said this afternoon that JAC will tell WT at todays meeting that:
1. You can't legally sign a contract before Nov 1
2. He's staying in Melbourne for 12 months
So the HOA is null and void

But, he said WT have signed Daine Laurie for 2022. Hopefully panthers will release him for 2021. He said he us a 'tier 1 sprinter'.

Also said likely to know what Mansour goes today. Which is likely WT.

Hope I've relayed what he said properly.

That’s what’s confused me about this HOA. How could the NRL allow JAC to sign a binding document with us if he hasn’t even been released from Melbourne or it’s not November 1st. I don’t see how it has any power to stop him from doing whatever he wants.

It’s not binding..... doesn’t come into play unless he’s released, and even then it’s probably not binding.
 
@the_third said in [JAC](/post/1261773) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1261770) said:
@frullens said in [JAC](/post/1261757) said:
Jimmy Smith on SEN said this afternoon that JAC will tell WT at todays meeting that:
1. You can't legally sign a contract before Nov 1
2. He's staying in Melbourne for 12 months
So the HOA is null and void

But, he said WT have signed Daine Laurie for 2022. Hopefully panthers will release him for 2021. He said he us a 'tier 1 sprinter'.

Also said likely to know what Mansour goes today. Which is likely WT.

Hope I've relayed what he said properly.

That’s what’s confused me about this HOA. How could the NRL allow JAC to sign a binding document with us if he hasn’t even been released from Melbourne or it’s not November 1st. I don’t see how it has any power to stop him from doing whatever he wants.

It’s not binding..... doesn’t come into play unless he’s released, and even then it’s probably not binding.

Then what’s the big drama about it? Sounds like he could just decide not to join even if he’s released and nothing could stop that. I don’t see how it would hold any bearing as to what club he decides to join.
 
Getting tired of this, if we get him at the right price GREAT but if not keep on the recruitment of potential high class players like Blore and strike in 2021 with more $ and upgrade payments on young players who show promise and have a bit on the side for top shelf established players that become available then
 
@the_third said in [JAC](/post/1261773) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1261770) said:
@frullens said in [JAC](/post/1261757) said:
Jimmy Smith on SEN said this afternoon that JAC will tell WT at todays meeting that:
1. You can't legally sign a contract before Nov 1
2. He's staying in Melbourne for 12 months
So the HOA is null and void

But, he said WT have signed Daine Laurie for 2022. Hopefully panthers will release him for 2021. He said he us a 'tier 1 sprinter'.

Also said likely to know what Mansour goes today. Which is likely WT.

Hope I've relayed what he said properly.

That’s what’s confused me about this HOA. How could the NRL allow JAC to sign a binding document with us if he hasn’t even been released from Melbourne or it’s not November 1st. I don’t see how it has any power to stop him from doing whatever he wants.

It’s not binding..... doesn’t come into play unless he’s released, and even then it’s probably not binding.

Sounds right but you would assume that if our Chair put it together he would know how it works considering the position he holds with a law firm.. He sounded pretty confident in his interview so I will keep my fingers crossed until an announcement is made.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1261774) said:
@the_third said in [JAC](/post/1261773) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1261770) said:
@frullens said in [JAC](/post/1261757) said:
Jimmy Smith on SEN said this afternoon that JAC will tell WT at todays meeting that:
1. You can't legally sign a contract before Nov 1
2. He's staying in Melbourne for 12 months
So the HOA is null and void

But, he said WT have signed Daine Laurie for 2022. Hopefully panthers will release him for 2021. He said he us a 'tier 1 sprinter'.

Also said likely to know what Mansour goes today. Which is likely WT.

Hope I've relayed what he said properly.

That’s what’s confused me about this HOA. How could the NRL allow JAC to sign a binding document with us if he hasn’t even been released from Melbourne or it’s not November 1st. I don’t see how it has any power to stop him from doing whatever he wants.

It’s not binding..... doesn’t come into play unless he’s released, and even then it’s probably not binding.

Then what’s the big drama about it? Sounds like he could just decide not to join even if he’s released and nothing could stop that. I don’t see how it would hold any bearing as to what club he decides to join.

That right. At best it sets us up to look like we are a shambles again.
 
@frullens said in [JAC](/post/1261757) said:
Jimmy Smith on SEN said this afternoon that JAC will tell WT at todays meeting that:
1. You can't legally sign a contract before Nov 1
2. He's staying in Melbourne for 12 months
So the HOA is null and void

But, he said WT have signed Daine Laurie for 2022. Hopefully panthers will release him for 2021. He said he us a 'tier 1 sprinter'.

Also said likely to know what Mansour goes today. Which is likely WT.

Hope I've relayed what he said properly.

If this is true we need to show some balls and make him stay in Melbourne next year, no rolling over so souths can get him for 2021, souths get away with enough dodgy crap without spoon feeding them. No more copping it like we did from Matterson, a line in the sand moment, we are no longer going to pander to whinging players
 
A part of an law article:

“Many people believe that heads of agreements are non-binding documents and make the mistake of signing them without getting legal advice. However, heads of agreements can be a contract which is enforceable by the parties to it”
 

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