JAC

[Russell]

My opinion on on JAC. I would love to have him but we can't blow the bank on him.
Wingers are the cream on top for good sides. It is still all about the spine. Look at the top 4 sides.
JAC is not going to turn around a club in my opinion, not will any winger. He will make a difference, absolutely, but I would not count on his signing catapulting us to the top 4. Therefore ,we should make a reasonable offer, and be prepared to walk away if his demands are too high.
Imagine $800k, plus losing tatau? Also need to factor in missing games for origin etc and I really can't believe some people's "sign at all costs" thinking.

Until Madge settles on his spine, we will be stuck in the same position.

This also applies to the dogs, can't believe they would pay more than already reported.

I just don’t get the difference between jac and Latrell why offer Latrell 1 mill and not JAC


Similar players who haven’t played 1 in nrl before

Agreed. It was reckless to offer latrell that. I think we dodged a bullet (pun intended) there.
Maybe they saw more value because of goal kicking?

What bullet did we dodge? Once LM got fit he was killing it at the Rabbitohs. I’d even say they win the grand final if he stays on the field. If we had gotten LM then it would have been a no brainer for JAC.

We just need one big name signing . One player to show confidence to come here and like sheep other players will follow.

I was pointing out we the contract we offered was reckless. No doubt every club would love LM in their side but not on the money we were allegedly offering.

LM on 600k at South's is a good signing
LM at tigers on $1.1 MIL for 4 years is not

I thought he was excelled the last month before he got injured. Prior to that he was bad. He was getting subbed mid game and replaced by Johnston.

We would not be signing JAC now either, as we would not have the salary cap to afford him.

I think most people would have been happy to pay LM $1.1m. Not saying he is worth that much, but we just need a big name signing to build the confidence around the club, to the media and other players considering coming here. We need to pay overs for players until we become a successful club.

Paying overs got us into this situation in the first place.

Let's regress back and do another Iv. No thanks.

Think the club now has more sense.

 

[Russell]

My opinion on on JAC. I would love to have him but we can't blow the bank on him.
Wingers are the cream on top for good sides. It is still all about the spine. Look at the top 4 sides.
JAC is not going to turn around a club in my opinion, not will any winger. He will make a difference, absolutely, but I would not count on his signing catapulting us to the top 4. Therefore ,we should make a reasonable offer, and be prepared to walk away if his demands are too high.
Imagine $800k, plus losing tatau? Also need to factor in missing games for origin etc and I really can't believe some people's "sign at all costs" thinking.

Until Madge settles on his spine, we will be stuck in the same position.

This also applies to the dogs, can't believe they would pay more than already reported.

I just don’t get the difference between jac and Latrell why offer Latrell 1 mill and not JAC


Similar players who haven’t played 1 in nrl before

Agreed. It was reckless to offer latrell that. I think we dodged a bullet (pun intended) there.
Maybe they saw more value because of goal kicking?

What bullet did we dodge? Once LM got fit he was killing it at the Rabbitohs. I’d even say they win the grand final if he stays on the field. If we had gotten LM then it would have been a no brainer for JAC.

We just need one big name signing . One player to show confidence to come here and like sheep other players will follow.

Disagree on LM he was not "killing it" and souffs pack were never going to win them a premiership

"I said at the start of the year he was a centre – I was so wrong," Johns admitted.
"He was coming into great form at fullback.
"He looked fit, physically and mentally… well done Latrell, he proved me wrong."

You swap Corey Alan for Latrell Mitchell in the major semi and Rabbitohs win that game.

Latrine wouldn't have scored the Allen try.

 

[Cairnstigers]

What is the latest on Saab?

We are waiting for the 2021 model to come out

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Latrell was playing very well at fullback by the end of the season and was a big loss for them. Certainly was playing better than anyone we had at fullback

For a $1m+ we were going to pay for him he definitely would not have earned his money.
For what Souths was paying him he probably came close to about 60% of that mark.
His form didn’t reach anywhere near to six Top fullbacks this year.
He was a flop and we dodged a bullet.
And if you expect JAC to earn any of those fullback incentives if he signs for us in 2021 then you’ll be disappointed.
The guy is a great winger and that’s all.

? agree. An incentive based contract where he is paid as the number 1 winger in the world, as a base but can earn fullback money , if he plays there , was completely a show me contract. If anyone doesn’t think the bulldogs giving him 800k guaranteed isn’t reckless , Are dreaming. It’s desperate , in a way , we honestly don’t have to be , as they have absolutely zero juniors coming through . And the ones they do , have been poached away .
JAC is not LM . I get nervous as all get out , when LM gets the ball , I don’t feel that way ever about JAC . Maybe that changes , maybe that doesn’t , either you can’t pay him 800k . It’s crippling to your cap . We paid an in form half moved to fullback that money , and it’s cruelled us . And he’s very handy in a lot of positions.
What happens if JAC fails ? And you have lachan Lewis throwing cutout balls to him on the wing . Is that a recipe for success ? And how likely is that outcome to happen ? Is it 20% ? 50% ? Or IMO 70%. I think he won’t be playing fullback by mid next year , which means what I just said is More likely than not .

 

[2005magic]

If WT don't get JAC as he has taken better offer after ours being on the table so long by itself, let's not give up but maybe get a bit tougher with the marque player opportunities such as they come up. Seems giving them time only works against us. Take it or leave it with a set withdraw of offer date. In the interim continue looking for good players stuck behind better players at their existing club.

 

[Tiger5150]

If WT don't get JAC as he has taken better offer after ours being on the table so long by itself, let's not give up but maybe get a bit tougher with the marque player opportunities such as they come up. Seems giving them time only works against us. Take it or leave it with a set withdraw of offer date. In the interim continue looking for good players stuck behind better players at their existing club.

Not sure I follow the logic of this argument.

We are having trouble attracting elite talent because of what ever reason, so telling them "This is our offer, take it or leave it and here is your deadline" will make us more attractive?

 

[2005magic]

If WT don't get JAC as he has taken better offer after ours being on the table so long by itself, let's not give up but maybe get a bit tougher with the marque player opportunities such as they come up. Seems giving them time only works against us. Take it or leave it with a set withdraw of offer date. In the interim continue looking for good players stuck behind better players at their existing club.


Not sure I follow the logic of this argument.

We are having trouble attracting elite talent because of what ever reason, so telling them "This is our offer, take it or leave it and here is your deadline" will make us more attractive?

But it stops us being used to only bump up their price x elsewhere

 

[Tiger5150]

If WT don't get JAC as he has taken better offer after ours being on the table so long by itself, let's not give up but maybe get a bit tougher with the marque player opportunities such as they come up. Seems giving them time only works against us. Take it or leave it with a set withdraw of offer date. In the interim continue looking for good players stuck behind better players at their existing club.


Not sure I follow the logic of this argument.

We are having trouble attracting elite talent because of what ever reason, so telling them "This is our offer, take it or leave it and here is your deadline" will make us more attractive?

But it stops us being used to only bump up their price x elsewhere

You want our competitors to get these players cheaper?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

What is the latest on Saab?

We are waiting for the 2021 model to come out

Luciano did well under Maguire. I guess he was prepared to work his backside off to reap the benefits of advice from a premiership coach. I hope Saab is still on our radar and he too is willing to work. He seems like a Maguire project.

 

[JC99]

If WT don't get JAC as he has taken better offer after ours being on the table so long by itself, let's not give up but maybe get a bit tougher with the marque player opportunities such as they come up. Seems giving them time only works against us. Take it or leave it with a set withdraw of offer date. In the interim continue looking for good players stuck behind better players at their existing club.


Not sure I follow the logic of this argument.

We are having trouble attracting elite talent because of what ever reason, so telling them "This is our offer, take it or leave it and here is your deadline" will make us more attractive?

But it stops us being used to only bump up their price x elsewhere


You want our competitors to get these players cheaper?

Exactly. It’s not like there’s anyone else currently to throw big money at there’s no rush with JAC

 

[fibrodreaming]

Seems giving them time only works against us. Take it or leave it with a set withdraw of offer date. In the interim continue looking for good players stuck behind better players at their existing club.

I don't understand this POV in relation to JAC.

Hi is not legally able to sign anything until 1 November, and even then he is only able to sign for 2022.

Apparently we and his management have agreed to terms.

So what is the point of threatening to withdraw the offer before he is legally able to sign it?

 

[Tiger5150]

Seems giving them time only works against us. Take it or leave it with a set withdraw of offer date. In the interim continue looking for good players stuck behind better players at their existing club.

I don't understand this POV in relation to JAC.

Hi is not legally able to sign anything until 1 November, and even then he is only able to sign for 2022.

Apparently we and his management have agreed to terms.

So what is the point of threatening to withdraw the offer before he is legally able to sign it?

Because we are a laughing stock apparently. No idea why we are supposedly a laughing stock but the other clubs chasing him are not. No one has signed him yet. Some fans have self esteem issues I think.

 

[hsvjones]

NRL 2020: Bulldogs target Isaah Yeo, Stephen Crichton after Kyle Flanagan signing
It’s no secret Matt Burton is a key target but new Bulldogs coach Trent Barrett has two even bigger Penrith scalps in his sights. Canterbury’s growing hit list here.
Matt Burton is already a key target, and now Canterbury has drawn up a Panthers priority list which includes NSW State of Origin stars Stephen Crichton and Isaah Yeo.
It comes after the Bulldogs signed Penrith assistant Trent Barrett as head coach and aggressive Panthers forward Jack Hetherington.
While Burton is Canterbury’s main choice, the Bulldogs are closely monitoring Crichton and Yeo, who come off contract after next season.
The developments come as Canterbury confirmed the signing of Sydney Roosters halfback Kyle Flanagan to a three-year deal. A Burton-Flanagan halves combination could -potentially lift Canterbury into a top eight contender.
All NRL players coming off contract after next season can be officially approached from this Sunday.
Should they sign Burton, Canterbury hope he may arrive for next season although there is no indication Penrith would offer an early release.
The Daily Telegraph has also learnt Melbourne, North Queensland and Wests Tigers have an interest in Burton. Barrett was at Canterbury’s Belmore headquarters on Monday but after a long year at Penrith has taken a week’s holiday. He has a strong relationship with all Panthers players. Penrith has the most talent of any NRL club coming off contract after next year, including Burton, Crichton, Yeo, Jarome Luai, Kurt Capewell, Mitch Kenny, Spencer Leniu, Brent Naden, Josh Mansour and Zane Tetevano.
Yeo and Crichton could command salaries of between $500,000 and $600,000 a season. The Panthers are desperately hoping to retain all their grand finals stars.
Crichton’s brother, Bulldogs winger, Christian, comes off contract at Belmore after next season. While wanting to be strategic, Canterbury will have some cash to splash for 2022. Other NRL star players coming off after next season include Kotoni Staggs, Dale Finucane, Jahrome Hughes, Mitchell Pearce, Nathan Brown, Blake Ferguson, Maika Sivo, Jarome Luai, Dane Gagai, Adam Reynolds, Junior Tatola, Cameron McInnes, Corey Norman, Angus Crichton, James Tedesco, Daniel Tupou and David Nofoaluma,
They can receive offers from midnight on Sunday. Tedesco is shortly expected to announce a new five-year, $6m deal at Bondi.
Canterbury remains hopeful but not overly confident of signing Melbourne and NSW star Josh Addo-Carr. The club is insisting they have not yet made him an offer.
Addo-Carr is attracted to South Sydney but would be unable to play his preferred fullback spot at Redfern because of good mate, Latrell Mitchell. Wests Tigers also remain a chance of signing Addo-Carr.
Barrett is a huge fan of Addo-Carr. All negotiations have been delayed given Addo-Carr will be in NSW camp for the next four weeks.
Canterbury confirmed 22-year-old Flanagan’s signing on Tuesday ¬morning.
“Kyle is a quality all-round footballer, who will bring game management and a strong kicking component to our halves, as well as having the potential to grow as a player under Trent Barrett and his coaching staff,” said Bulldogs CEO, Andrew Hill.
“We are putting together a squad that has the right qualities and everyone is excited about getting back together for the pre-season in what we believe is a new beginning for the club. We can’t wait for Kyle to be a part of that.”

What happened to Barrett not raiding the Panthers talent? That was short lived. He will be on the Panthers most hated list.

Agree... Also if the JAC wants to go to South is correct We must put a deadline on this as we cannot wait another 4 weeks to be burnt again... We are not a doormat and if he wants our money and fullback spot he needs to grow up and make the call..


Why?

Why not... Read my last few posts as that explain it.

Give him the deadline but advise we would entertain it again when his ready but if we sign other player/s in the meantime it could reduce our offer and/or we may not even have a spot left.
It's like buying a house... You find one and you like it and happy with the price but say to the owner, Can you give me 4 more weeks to look around to see if I can get a better house and deal elsewhere and if not I will come back... No chance that happens in the real world.


You realise that the club is the one selling the house? We are selling ourselves. Back to your house selling analogy, the Tigers are selling the house and telling a potential purchaser to "hurry up",,,,......how would that go down? There are other houses to buy.

I am talking from both sides of this.. JAC has found the "So Called House" and wants us to hold while he is continuing his shopping around to get a better deal.... Now the WT say to JAC and agent we have this deal for you and will hold for a week or a date doesn't matter, but after that date we cannot guarantee the same deal or even if its available .. Now it puts the ball in his court to make the decision in a reasonable time frame otherwise could miss out. He has had plenty of time to work out where he wants to go and if his asking for more time that to me says he doesn't want to come here because we are not low balling him.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Seems giving them time only works against us. Take it or leave it with a set withdraw of offer date. In the interim continue looking for good players stuck behind better players at their existing club.

I don't understand this POV in relation to JAC.

Hi is not legally able to sign anything until 1 November, and even then he is only able to sign for 2022.

Apparently we and his management have agreed to terms.

So what is the point of threatening to withdraw the offer before he is legally able to sign it?


Because we are a laughing stock apparently. No idea why we are supposedly a laughing stock but the other clubs chasing him are not. No one has signed him yet. Some fans have self esteem issues I think.

isn't he only able to sign for 2022 effective 1 nov 2022, if we want him for 2021 we need the relase from storm dont we ?

 

[fibrodreaming]

Seems giving them time only works against us. Take it or leave it with a set withdraw of offer date. In the interim continue looking for good players stuck behind better players at their existing club.

I don't understand this POV in relation to JAC.

Hi is not legally able to sign anything until 1 November, and even then he is only able to sign for 2022.

Apparently we and his management have agreed to terms.

So what is the point of threatening to withdraw the offer before he is legally able to sign it?


Because we are a laughing stock apparently. No idea why we are supposedly a laughing stock but the other clubs chasing him are not. No one has signed him yet. Some fans have self esteem issues I think.

isn't he only able to sign for 2022 effective 1 nov 2022, if we want him for 2021 we need the relase from storm dont we ?

That's my understanding.

 

[JD Tiger]

Seems giving them time only works against us. Take it or leave it with a set withdraw of offer date. In the interim continue looking for good players stuck behind better players at their existing club.

I don't understand this POV in relation to JAC.

Hi is not legally able to sign anything until 1 November, and even then he is only able to sign for 2022.

Apparently we and his management have agreed to terms.

So what is the point of threatening to withdraw the offer before he is legally able to sign it?


Because we are a laughing stock apparently. No idea why we are supposedly a laughing stock but the other clubs chasing him are not. No one has signed him yet. Some fans have self esteem issues I think.

isn't he only able to sign for 2022 effective 1 nov 2022, if we want him for 2021 we need the relase from storm dont we ?

Nearly.

On 1 Nov 2020, a player who is finishing their current contract with a team (which expires 31/10/2021) can sign a contract with another team, and that new contract starts 1 Nov 2021.

So in a few days, we can use Reynolds and Packer's money and start signing players for the 2022 season.

 

[Tiger5150]

NRL 2020: Bulldogs target Isaah Yeo, Stephen Crichton after Kyle Flanagan signing
It’s no secret Matt Burton is a key target but new Bulldogs coach Trent Barrett has two even bigger Penrith scalps in his sights. Canterbury’s growing hit list here.
Matt Burton is already a key target, and now Canterbury has drawn up a Panthers priority list which includes NSW State of Origin stars Stephen Crichton and Isaah Yeo.
It comes after the Bulldogs signed Penrith assistant Trent Barrett as head coach and aggressive Panthers forward Jack Hetherington.
While Burton is Canterbury’s main choice, the Bulldogs are closely monitoring Crichton and Yeo, who come off contract after next season.
The developments come as Canterbury confirmed the signing of Sydney Roosters halfback Kyle Flanagan to a three-year deal. A Burton-Flanagan halves combination could -potentially lift Canterbury into a top eight contender.
All NRL players coming off contract after next season can be officially approached from this Sunday.
Should they sign Burton, Canterbury hope he may arrive for next season although there is no indication Penrith would offer an early release.
The Daily Telegraph has also learnt Melbourne, North Queensland and Wests Tigers have an interest in Burton. Barrett was at Canterbury’s Belmore headquarters on Monday but after a long year at Penrith has taken a week’s holiday. He has a strong relationship with all Panthers players. Penrith has the most talent of any NRL club coming off contract after next year, including Burton, Crichton, Yeo, Jarome Luai, Kurt Capewell, Mitch Kenny, Spencer Leniu, Brent Naden, Josh Mansour and Zane Tetevano.
Yeo and Crichton could command salaries of between $500,000 and $600,000 a season. The Panthers are desperately hoping to retain all their grand finals stars.
Crichton’s brother, Bulldogs winger, Christian, comes off contract at Belmore after next season. While wanting to be strategic, Canterbury will have some cash to splash for 2022. Other NRL star players coming off after next season include Kotoni Staggs, Dale Finucane, Jahrome Hughes, Mitchell Pearce, Nathan Brown, Blake Ferguson, Maika Sivo, Jarome Luai, Dane Gagai, Adam Reynolds, Junior Tatola, Cameron McInnes, Corey Norman, Angus Crichton, James Tedesco, Daniel Tupou and David Nofoaluma,
They can receive offers from midnight on Sunday. Tedesco is shortly expected to announce a new five-year, $6m deal at Bondi.
Canterbury remains hopeful but not overly confident of signing Melbourne and NSW star Josh Addo-Carr. The club is insisting they have not yet made him an offer.
Addo-Carr is attracted to South Sydney but would be unable to play his preferred fullback spot at Redfern because of good mate, Latrell Mitchell. Wests Tigers also remain a chance of signing Addo-Carr.
Barrett is a huge fan of Addo-Carr. All negotiations have been delayed given Addo-Carr will be in NSW camp for the next four weeks.
Canterbury confirmed 22-year-old Flanagan’s signing on Tuesday ¬morning.
“Kyle is a quality all-round footballer, who will bring game management and a strong kicking component to our halves, as well as having the potential to grow as a player under Trent Barrett and his coaching staff,” said Bulldogs CEO, Andrew Hill.
“We are putting together a squad that has the right qualities and everyone is excited about getting back together for the pre-season in what we believe is a new beginning for the club. We can’t wait for Kyle to be a part of that.”

What happened to Barrett not raiding the Panthers talent? That was short lived. He will be on the Panthers most hated list.

Agree... Also if the JAC wants to go to South is correct We must put a deadline on this as we cannot wait another 4 weeks to be burnt again... We are not a doormat and if he wants our money and fullback spot he needs to grow up and make the call..


Why?

Why not... Read my last few posts as that explain it.

Give him the deadline but advise we would entertain it again when his ready but if we sign other player/s in the meantime it could reduce our offer and/or we may not even have a spot left.
It's like buying a house... You find one and you like it and happy with the price but say to the owner, Can you give me 4 more weeks to look around to see if I can get a better house and deal elsewhere and if not I will come back... No chance that happens in the real world.


You realise that the club is the one selling the house? We are selling ourselves. Back to your house selling analogy, the Tigers are selling the house and telling a potential purchaser to "hurry up",,,,......how would that go down? There are other houses to buy.

I am talking from both sides of this.. JAC has found the "So Called House" and wants us to hold while he is continuing his shopping around to get a better deal.... Now the WT say to JAC and agent we have this deal for you and will hold for a week or a date doesn't matter, but after that date we cannot guarantee the same deal or even if its available .. Now it puts the ball in his court to make the decision in a reasonable time frame otherwise could miss out. He has had plenty of time to work out where he wants to go and if his asking for more time that to me says he doesn't want to come here because we are not low balling him.

The very big problem with your house buying analogy is that no matter which side you take (vendor or purchaser) it makes the assumption that it is a market. This is not the case in the case of JAC.

There is not a market of JAC's, there is one. So to take your analogy further you can take either side.

We are buying the house and JAC is the house. There is only ONE house and many people wanting to buy the house but ONE of the potential purchasers says "Here is my offer take it or leave it and you have 3 days to make up your mind!". ow would that turn out?

Or, we are the house, there are many houses for sale but only 1 person looking to buy. Again telling them that this is the price and they should hurry up might not be the best strategy.

 

[earl]

My opinion on on JAC. I would love to have him but we can't blow the bank on him.
Wingers are the cream on top for good sides. It is still all about the spine. Look at the top 4 sides.
JAC is not going to turn around a club in my opinion, not will any winger. He will make a difference, absolutely, but I would not count on his signing catapulting us to the top 4. Therefore ,we should make a reasonable offer, and be prepared to walk away if his demands are too high.
Imagine $800k, plus losing tatau? Also need to factor in missing games for origin etc and I really can't believe some people's "sign at all costs" thinking.

Until Madge settles on his spine, we will be stuck in the same position.

This also applies to the dogs, can't believe they would pay more than already reported.

I just don’t get the difference between jac and Latrell why offer Latrell 1 mill and not JAC


Similar players who haven’t played 1 in nrl before

Agreed. It was reckless to offer latrell that. I think we dodged a bullet (pun intended) there.
Maybe they saw more value because of goal kicking?

What bullet did we dodge? Once LM got fit he was killing it at the Rabbitohs. I’d even say they win the grand final if he stays on the field. If we had gotten LM then it would have been a no brainer for JAC.

We just need one big name signing . One player to show confidence to come here and like sheep other players will follow.

Disagree on LM he was not "killing it" and souffs pack were never going to win them a premiership

"I said at the start of the year he was a centre – I was so wrong," Johns admitted.
"He was coming into great form at fullback.
"He looked fit, physically and mentally… well done Latrell, he proved me wrong."

You swap Corey Alan for Latrell Mitchell in the major semi and Rabbitohs win that game.

LM has a greater top level game than basically every player in the comp. He is worth more than JAC. LM has a lot of flaws but if he plays well he is great.

 

[hsvjones]

NRL 2020: Bulldogs target Isaah Yeo, Stephen Crichton after Kyle Flanagan signing
It’s no secret Matt Burton is a key target but new Bulldogs coach Trent Barrett has two even bigger Penrith scalps in his sights. Canterbury’s growing hit list here.
Matt Burton is already a key target, and now Canterbury has drawn up a Panthers priority list which includes NSW State of Origin stars Stephen Crichton and Isaah Yeo.
It comes after the Bulldogs signed Penrith assistant Trent Barrett as head coach and aggressive Panthers forward Jack Hetherington.
While Burton is Canterbury’s main choice, the Bulldogs are closely monitoring Crichton and Yeo, who come off contract after next season.
The developments come as Canterbury confirmed the signing of Sydney Roosters halfback Kyle Flanagan to a three-year deal. A Burton-Flanagan halves combination could -potentially lift Canterbury into a top eight contender.
All NRL players coming off contract after next season can be officially approached from this Sunday.
Should they sign Burton, Canterbury hope he may arrive for next season although there is no indication Penrith would offer an early release.
The Daily Telegraph has also learnt Melbourne, North Queensland and Wests Tigers have an interest in Burton. Barrett was at Canterbury’s Belmore headquarters on Monday but after a long year at Penrith has taken a week’s holiday. He has a strong relationship with all Panthers players. Penrith has the most talent of any NRL club coming off contract after next year, including Burton, Crichton, Yeo, Jarome Luai, Kurt Capewell, Mitch Kenny, Spencer Leniu, Brent Naden, Josh Mansour and Zane Tetevano.
Yeo and Crichton could command salaries of between $500,000 and $600,000 a season. The Panthers are desperately hoping to retain all their grand finals stars.
Crichton’s brother, Bulldogs winger, Christian, comes off contract at Belmore after next season. While wanting to be strategic, Canterbury will have some cash to splash for 2022. Other NRL star players coming off after next season include Kotoni Staggs, Dale Finucane, Jahrome Hughes, Mitchell Pearce, Nathan Brown, Blake Ferguson, Maika Sivo, Jarome Luai, Dane Gagai, Adam Reynolds, Junior Tatola, Cameron McInnes, Corey Norman, Angus Crichton, James Tedesco, Daniel Tupou and David Nofoaluma,
They can receive offers from midnight on Sunday. Tedesco is shortly expected to announce a new five-year, $6m deal at Bondi.
Canterbury remains hopeful but not overly confident of signing Melbourne and NSW star Josh Addo-Carr. The club is insisting they have not yet made him an offer.
Addo-Carr is attracted to South Sydney but would be unable to play his preferred fullback spot at Redfern because of good mate, Latrell Mitchell. Wests Tigers also remain a chance of signing Addo-Carr.
Barrett is a huge fan of Addo-Carr. All negotiations have been delayed given Addo-Carr will be in NSW camp for the next four weeks.
Canterbury confirmed 22-year-old Flanagan’s signing on Tuesday ¬morning.
“Kyle is a quality all-round footballer, who will bring game management and a strong kicking component to our halves, as well as having the potential to grow as a player under Trent Barrett and his coaching staff,” said Bulldogs CEO, Andrew Hill.
“We are putting together a squad that has the right qualities and everyone is excited about getting back together for the pre-season in what we believe is a new beginning for the club. We can’t wait for Kyle to be a part of that.”

What happened to Barrett not raiding the Panthers talent? That was short lived. He will be on the Panthers most hated list.

Agree... Also if the JAC wants to go to South is correct We must put a deadline on this as we cannot wait another 4 weeks to be burnt again... We are not a doormat and if he wants our money and fullback spot he needs to grow up and make the call..


Why?

Why not... Read my last few posts as that explain it.

Give him the deadline but advise we would entertain it again when his ready but if we sign other player/s in the meantime it could reduce our offer and/or we may not even have a spot left.
It's like buying a house... You find one and you like it and happy with the price but say to the owner, Can you give me 4 more weeks to look around to see if I can get a better house and deal elsewhere and if not I will come back... No chance that happens in the real world.


You realise that the club is the one selling the house? We are selling ourselves. Back to your house selling analogy, the Tigers are selling the house and telling a potential purchaser to "hurry up",,,,......how would that go down? There are other houses to buy.

I am talking from both sides of this.. JAC has found the "So Called House" and wants us to hold while he is continuing his shopping around to get a better deal.... Now the WT say to JAC and agent we have this deal for you and will hold for a week or a date doesn't matter, but after that date we cannot guarantee the same deal or even if its available .. Now it puts the ball in his court to make the decision in a reasonable time frame otherwise could miss out. He has had plenty of time to work out where he wants to go and if his asking for more time that to me says he doesn't want to come here because we are not low balling him.


The very big problem with your house buying analogy is that no matter which side you take (vendor or purchaser) it makes the assumption that it is a market. This is not the case in the case of JAC.

There is not a market of JAC's, there is one. So to take your analogy further you can take either side.

We are buying the house and JAC is the house. There is only ONE house and many people wanting to buy the house but ONE of the potential purchasers says "Here is my offer take it or leave it and you have 3 days to make up your mind!". ow would that turn out?

Or, we are the house, there are many houses for sale but only 1 person looking to buy. Again telling them that this is the price and they should hurry up might not be the best strategy.

Look basically all I am saying is I don't want us all to be talking about JAC in 5 weeks time about if he is coming or not. I'm sorry he has had plenty of time to work out where he wants to play and by saying we have a deal ready for you up until this date but if not accepted we will be looking at other options. That doesn't mean we close the door shut and tell them not to contact us again. It just says hey we as a Professional Organisation and need to move forward and would be willing to talk again when you are ready but cannot guarantee the same deal will be available.

 

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NRL 2020: Bulldogs target Isaah Yeo, Stephen Crichton after Kyle Flanagan signing
It’s no secret Matt Burton is a key target but new Bulldogs coach Trent Barrett has two even bigger Penrith scalps in his sights. Canterbury’s growing hit list here.
Matt Burton is already a key target, and now Canterbury has drawn up a Panthers priority list which includes NSW State of Origin stars Stephen Crichton and Isaah Yeo.
It comes after the Bulldogs signed Penrith assistant Trent Barrett as head coach and aggressive Panthers forward Jack Hetherington.
While Burton is Canterbury’s main choice, the Bulldogs are closely monitoring Crichton and Yeo, who come off contract after next season.
The developments come as Canterbury confirmed the signing of Sydney Roosters halfback Kyle Flanagan to a three-year deal. A Burton-Flanagan halves combination could -potentially lift Canterbury into a top eight contender.
All NRL players coming off contract after next season can be officially approached from this Sunday.
Should they sign Burton, Canterbury hope he may arrive for next season although there is no indication Penrith would offer an early release.
The Daily Telegraph has also learnt Melbourne, North Queensland and Wests Tigers have an interest in Burton. Barrett was at Canterbury’s Belmore headquarters on Monday but after a long year at Penrith has taken a week’s holiday. He has a strong relationship with all Panthers players. Penrith has the most talent of any NRL club coming off contract after next year, including Burton, Crichton, Yeo, Jarome Luai, Kurt Capewell, Mitch Kenny, Spencer Leniu, Brent Naden, Josh Mansour and Zane Tetevano.
Yeo and Crichton could command salaries of between $500,000 and $600,000 a season. The Panthers are desperately hoping to retain all their grand finals stars.
Crichton’s brother, Bulldogs winger, Christian, comes off contract at Belmore after next season. While wanting to be strategic, Canterbury will have some cash to splash for 2022. Other NRL star players coming off after next season include Kotoni Staggs, Dale Finucane, Jahrome Hughes, Mitchell Pearce, Nathan Brown, Blake Ferguson, Maika Sivo, Jarome Luai, Dane Gagai, Adam Reynolds, Junior Tatola, Cameron McInnes, Corey Norman, Angus Crichton, James Tedesco, Daniel Tupou and David Nofoaluma,
They can receive offers from midnight on Sunday. Tedesco is shortly expected to announce a new five-year, $6m deal at Bondi.
Canterbury remains hopeful but not overly confident of signing Melbourne and NSW star Josh Addo-Carr. The club is insisting they have not yet made him an offer.
Addo-Carr is attracted to South Sydney but would be unable to play his preferred fullback spot at Redfern because of good mate, Latrell Mitchell. Wests Tigers also remain a chance of signing Addo-Carr.
Barrett is a huge fan of Addo-Carr. All negotiations have been delayed given Addo-Carr will be in NSW camp for the next four weeks.
Canterbury confirmed 22-year-old Flanagan’s signing on Tuesday ¬morning.
“Kyle is a quality all-round footballer, who will bring game management and a strong kicking component to our halves, as well as having the potential to grow as a player under Trent Barrett and his coaching staff,” said Bulldogs CEO, Andrew Hill.
“We are putting together a squad that has the right qualities and everyone is excited about getting back together for the pre-season in what we believe is a new beginning for the club. We can’t wait for Kyle to be a part of that.”

What happened to Barrett not raiding the Panthers talent? That was short lived. He will be on the Panthers most hated list.

Agree... Also if the JAC wants to go to South is correct We must put a deadline on this as we cannot wait another 4 weeks to be burnt again... We are not a doormat and if he wants our money and fullback spot he needs to grow up and make the call..


Why?

Why not... Read my last few posts as that explain it.

Give him the deadline but advise we would entertain it again when his ready but if we sign other player/s in the meantime it could reduce our offer and/or we may not even have a spot left.
It's like buying a house... You find one and you like it and happy with the price but say to the owner, Can you give me 4 more weeks to look around to see if I can get a better house and deal elsewhere and if not I will come back... No chance that happens in the real world.


You realise that the club is the one selling the house? We are selling ourselves. Back to your house selling analogy, the Tigers are selling the house and telling a potential purchaser to "hurry up",,,,......how would that go down? There are other houses to buy.

I am talking from both sides of this.. JAC has found the "So Called House" and wants us to hold while he is continuing his shopping around to get a better deal.... Now the WT say to JAC and agent we have this deal for you and will hold for a week or a date doesn't matter, but after that date we cannot guarantee the same deal or even if its available .. Now it puts the ball in his court to make the decision in a reasonable time frame otherwise could miss out. He has had plenty of time to work out where he wants to go and if his asking for more time that to me says he doesn't want to come here because we are not low balling him.


The very big problem with your house buying analogy is that no matter which side you take (vendor or purchaser) it makes the assumption that it is a market. This is not the case in the case of JAC.

There is not a market of JAC's, there is one. So to take your analogy further you can take either side.

We are buying the house and JAC is the house. There is only ONE house and many people wanting to buy the house but ONE of the potential purchasers says "Here is my offer take it or leave it and you have 3 days to make up your mind!". ow would that turn out?

Or, we are the house, there are many houses for sale but only 1 person looking to buy. Again telling them that this is the price and they should hurry up might not be the best strategy.

Look basically all I am saying is I don't want us all to be talking about JAC in 5 weeks time about if he is coming or not. I'm sorry he has had plenty of time to work out where he wants to play and by saying we have a deal ready for you up until this date but if not accepted we will be looking at other options. That doesn't mean we close the door shut and tell them not to contact us again. It just says hey we as a Professional Organisation and need to move forward and would be willing to talk again when you are ready but cannot guarantee the same deal will be available.

I understand your point of view, I just think it is counter productive. Also it is not as if he hasnt had legitimate distractions with the final series, hangovers and now SOO camp.