JAC

[cochise]

JAC could argue that the HOA was a restraint of trade. Contracts mean nothing in the NRL....thanks $BW ?‍♂️

Restraint of trade?? He has only just signed it.
Are you thinking someone has offered him a better deal, not sure you can break it for that reason, once you've signed and the club who/if they have tried to coerce him to break it would have an issue.
We still don't know what is happening yet anyway, as we are all still in the dark.

You're right we don't know what's happening. Did his manager advise on signing the HOA or did he get legal advice?
Players on big contracts know they have the power to dictate terms on whether they stay or go so if JAC genuinely wants to go to say Souths then it wouldn't make good business sense to enforce the HOA. Why would you want an unhappy player at the club who thinks they've been bent over. Moses is a prime example of a player who didn't want to be here

Just a thought maybe we settle on a 1yr deal with an option to take up full contract Give him a shot at fullback and if he is any good there he will earn more than at Souths you would assume.He may even want to stay.
Definitely makes us better in 21. Gets 12 months to explore options

I wouldn't be doing that.

 

[Telltails]

"The Storm have reportedly upped Addo-Carr’s deal from $350,000 to $480,000 for next year."
His head must be spinning - too many options.

 

[tony soprano]

Great acquisition in Daine Laurie - Tigers on the front foot for the meeting with JAC’s manager.. I like it !
Shows that we are not sitting on our hands, waiting to be played like we did last summer when fat boy Latrell played us off a break.
I’ll be over the moon if we also sign JAC - I don’t think he’s all that desperate to play fullback - he just wants ‘fullback money’,
This may also be a sign that we have a Plan B if JAC dumps us, we may think we can secure 2 or 3 high quality players for the price of one JAC.
1st strike Daine Laurie. Possibly we are also targeting Saab who is again requesting a release this week (reportedly sick of travelling from Western Sydney to train with the Dragons)... I’m not sure about him but he could blossom in a new environment - definitely addresses our speed envy.
I note mention of Angus Crichton by some posts- I think he was a world beater when at Souths but hasn’t really held that at the Roosters, still a good forward but is on big coin.
All in all I feel a positive vibe from the Laurie acquisition and maybe we’ve been dragged out of the quick sand and JAC may jump onboard now that we don’t look like a bunch of wallflowers.

Laurie, where has this come from?

DT and the Pom

 

[Spud_Murphy]

Great acquisition in Daine Laurie - Tigers on the front foot for the meeting with JAC’s manager.. I like it !
Shows that we are not sitting on our hands, waiting to be played like we did last summer when fat boy Latrell played us off a break.
I’ll be over the moon if we also sign JAC - I don’t think he’s all that desperate to play fullback - he just wants ‘fullback money’,
This may also be a sign that we have a Plan B if JAC dumps us, we may think we can secure 2 or 3 high quality players for the price of one JAC.
1st strike Daine Laurie. Possibly we are also targeting Saab who is again requesting a release this week (reportedly sick of travelling from Western Sydney to train with the Dragons)... I’m not sure about him but he could blossom in a new environment - definitely addresses our speed envy.
I note mention of Angus Crichton by some posts- I think he was a world beater when at Souths but hasn’t really held that at the Roosters, still a good forward but is on big coin.
All in all I feel a positive vibe from the Laurie acquisition and maybe we’ve been dragged out of the quick sand and JAC may jump onboard now that we don’t look like a bunch of wallflowers.

Laurie, where has this come from?

Many pages back The POM said Laurie was a definite signing from 2022 onwards, but he may even get an early release next year as Penrith are needing to shed some players. The kid is a precocious talent - happy days! ?

 

[TonyTiger]

Great acquisition in Daine Laurie - Tigers on the front foot for the meeting with JAC’s manager.. I like it !
Shows that we are not sitting on our hands, waiting to be played like we did last summer when fat boy Latrell played us off a break.
I’ll be over the moon if we also sign JAC - I don’t think he’s all that desperate to play fullback - he just wants ‘fullback money’,
This may also be a sign that we have a Plan B if JAC dumps us, we may think we can secure 2 or 3 high quality players for the price of one JAC.
1st strike Daine Laurie. Possibly we are also targeting Saab who is again requesting a release this week (reportedly sick of travelling from Western Sydney to train with the Dragons)... I’m not sure about him but he could blossom in a new environment - definitely addresses our speed envy.
I note mention of Angus Crichton by some posts- I think he was a world beater when at Souths but hasn’t really held that at the Roosters, still a good forward but is on big coin.
All in all I feel a positive vibe from the Laurie acquisition and maybe we’ve been dragged out of the quick sand and JAC may jump onboard now that we don’t look like a bunch of wallflowers.

Laurie, where has this come from?

I believe we have signed him

 

[CarltonDry]

JAC could argue that the HOA was a restraint of trade. Contracts mean nothing in the NRL....thanks $BW ?‍♂️

Restraint of trade?? He has only just signed it.
Are you thinking someone has offered him a better deal, not sure you can break it for that reason, once you've signed and the club who/if they have tried to coerce him to break it would have an issue.
We still don't know what is happening yet anyway, as we are all still in the dark.

You're right we don't know what's happening. Did his manager advise on signing the HOA or did he get legal advice?
Players on big contracts know they have the power to dictate terms on whether they stay or go so if JAC genuinely wants to go to say Souths then it wouldn't make good business sense to enforce the HOA. Why would you want an unhappy player at the club who thinks they've been bent over. Moses is a prime example of a player who didn't want to be here

Just a thought maybe we settle on a 1yr deal with an option to take up full contract Give him a shot at fullback and if he is any good there he will earn more than at Souths you would assume.He may even want to stay.
Definitely makes us better in 21. Gets 12 months to explore options

I like your thinking but players prefer longer deals for security reasons. I just think he wants to play for Souths and is manager is doing everything to achieve that by stalling. You can see Souths are trying to make space.

 

[JC99]

"The Storm have reportedly upped Addo-Carr’s deal from $350,000 to $480,000 for next year."
His head must be spinning - too many options.

Our initial offer was apparently more than that and Pom thinks we might even offer more so money wise we are head of Melbourne, plus he can come back to Sydney plus he can play fullback

 

[TigerWest]

"The Storm have reportedly upped Addo-Carr’s deal from $350,000 to $480,000 for next year."
His head must be spinning - too many options.

Our initial offer was apparently more than that and Pom thinks we might even offer more so money wise we are head of Melbourne, plus he can come back to Sydney plus he can play fullback

It’s a frustrating time atm, but the other possible scenario is they already know JAC is not coming and signed Laurie instead?

Though I do hope he is coming and we will now have excellent depth.

 

[TigerWest]

JAC could argue that the HOA was a restraint of trade. Contracts mean nothing in the NRL....thanks $BW ?‍♂️

Restraint of trade?? He has only just signed it.
Are you thinking someone has offered him a better deal, not sure you can break it for that reason, once you've signed and the club who/if they have tried to coerce him to break it would have an issue.
We still don't know what is happening yet anyway, as we are all still in the dark.

You're right we don't know what's happening. Did his manager advise on signing the HOA or did he get legal advice?
Players on big contracts know they have the power to dictate terms on whether they stay or go so if JAC genuinely wants to go to say Souths then it wouldn't make good business sense to enforce the HOA. Why would you want an unhappy player at the club who thinks they've been bent over. Moses is a prime example of a player who didn't want to be here

Well I hope we play hard ball if we are in the right

 

[JC99]

"The Storm have reportedly upped Addo-Carr’s deal from $350,000 to $480,000 for next year."
His head must be spinning - too many options.

Our initial offer was apparently more than that and Pom thinks we might even offer more so money wise we are head of Melbourne, plus he can come back to Sydney plus he can play fullback

It’s a frustrating time atm, but the other possible scenario is they already know JAC is not coming and signed Laurie instead?

Though I do hope he is coming and we will now have excellent depth.

Let’s see how the meeting tomorrow goes. Anything could happen

 

[TrueTiger]

I have read heaps of rhetoric in regards to JAC....only he and his manager know where Jac will be in 21/22...its all speculation and inuendo at the moment ...take it from some one who knows ...the players future in a club he feels he will be best at for the next amount of years and the money he earns is first and foremost...all the rest of us can speculate,agree.disagree and argue...but until it is officially declared then non of us know any better...
in my honest opinion JAC always wanted to be with the brotherhood I wont change my opinion ,as much as many would love JAC at our club,it is ultimately in his hands and I will say Souths has the upper hand atm..

We have indigenous players at WTs. Both foundation clubs have proud histories of having indigenous players in their ranks. Souths don't have exclusivity on indigenous players in their roster.

Completely agree with your summation Paws,but Souths have Mitchell,Walker and co....they are the indiginous players that JAC is very close to and is the brotherhood I keep mentioning...

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Great acquisition in Daine Laurie - Tigers on the front foot for the meeting with JAC’s manager.. I like it !
Shows that we are not sitting on our hands, waiting to be played like we did last summer when fat boy Latrell played us off a break.
I’ll be over the moon if we also sign JAC - I don’t think he’s all that desperate to play fullback - he just wants ‘fullback money’,
This may also be a sign that we have a Plan B if JAC dumps us, we may think we can secure 2 or 3 high quality players for the price of one JAC.
1st strike Daine Laurie. Possibly we are also targeting Saab who is again requesting a release this week (reportedly sick of travelling from Western Sydney to train with the Dragons)... I’m not sure about him but he could blossom in a new environment - definitely addresses our speed envy.
I note mention of Angus Crichton by some posts- I think he was a world beater when at Souths but hasn’t really held that at the Roosters, still a good forward but is on big coin.
All in all I feel a positive vibe from the Laurie acquisition and maybe we’ve been dragged out of the quick sand and JAC may jump onboard now that we don’t look like a bunch of wallflowers.

Laurie, where has this come from?

DT and the Pom

Ah OK I must have missed that post from the POM.

 

[Spida]

"The Storm have reportedly upped Addo-Carr’s deal from $350,000 to $480,000 for next year."
His head must be spinning - too many options.

Our initial offer was apparently more than that and Pom thinks we might even offer more so money wise we are head of Melbourne, plus he can come back to Sydney plus he can play fullback

It’s a frustrating time atm, but the other possible scenario is they already know JAC is not coming and signed Laurie instead?

Though I do hope he is coming and we will now have excellent depth.

Let’s see how the meeting tomorrow goes. Anything could happen

Even if tomorrow goes well,I can’t see us on the forum getting the answers we desperately crave.I could be wrong ,just don’t see it.I wouldn’t be pinning my hopes on the answer being posted on here tomorrow.

 

[Russell]

Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.


Solution make him Fullback and Captain.
Nil Performance incentives and up the original offer.

Headline this
Prodigal son returns
We wander for opportunities but we play for family.

In reality see the deal could go 50/50 lets see how our WT CEO/Coach/GM handle themselves with negotiations.
At least we will know by weeks end and we either Sign very good player or we miss out again and questions need to be asked why we cannot attract quality players.

Make him Captain - are you serious???? Sheesh.


Can't be any worst that Mybe - Sheesh Back Russell

It all depends what carrot you have to dangle to get him.
He may not want the Captaincy but stroke the players ego also sometimes works.

I am offering suggestions not negativity, Cheers.

I'm offering Tamou - not a loud mouthed pea brain who needs his ego stroked every
five minutes. No experience at either FB or captain but hey sell WA to get him over
the line. He is just a winger, sooner or later he will prove it to you.

 

[Newtown]

Great acquisition in Daine Laurie - Tigers on the front foot for the meeting with JAC’s manager.. I like it !
Shows that we are not sitting on our hands, waiting to be played like we did last summer when fat boy Latrell played us off a break.
I’ll be over the moon if we also sign JAC - I don’t think he’s all that desperate to play fullback - he just wants ‘fullback money’,
This may also be a sign that we have a Plan B if JAC dumps us, we may think we can secure 2 or 3 high quality players for the price of one JAC.
1st strike Daine Laurie. Possibly we are also targeting Saab who is again requesting a release this week (reportedly sick of travelling from Western Sydney to train with the Dragons)... I’m not sure about him but he could blossom in a new environment - definitely addresses our speed envy.
I note mention of Angus Crichton by some posts- I think he was a world beater when at Souths but hasn’t really held that at the Roosters, still a good forward but is on big coin.
All in all I feel a positive vibe from the Laurie acquisition and maybe we’ve been dragged out of the quick sand and JAC may jump onboard now that we don’t look like a bunch of wallflowers.

Laurie, where has this come from?

DT and the Pom

Has he been signed by Wests Tigers?

 

[WT46]

The kennel says they're getting Nofo and JAC.. 🤡🤡🤡🤡

 

[JC99]

"The Storm have reportedly upped Addo-Carr’s deal from $350,000 to $480,000 for next year."
His head must be spinning - too many options.

Our initial offer was apparently more than that and Pom thinks we might even offer more so money wise we are head of Melbourne, plus he can come back to Sydney plus he can play fullback

It’s a frustrating time atm, but the other possible scenario is they already know JAC is not coming and signed Laurie instead?

Though I do hope he is coming and we will now have excellent depth.

Let’s see how the meeting tomorrow goes. Anything could happen

Even if tomorrow goes well,I can’t see us on the forum getting the answers we desperately crave.I could be wrong ,just don’t see it.I wouldn’t be pinning my hopes on the answer being posted on here tomorrow.

Yeah will probably be a few days after until we hear anything at least.

 

[TheDaBoss]

The kennel says they're getting Nofo and JAC.. 🤡🤡🤡🤡

Delusional

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.


Solution make him Fullback and Captain.
Nil Performance incentives and up the original offer.

Headline this
Prodigal son returns
We wander for opportunities but we play for family.

In reality see the deal could go 50/50 lets see how our WT CEO/Coach/GM handle themselves with negotiations.
At least we will know by weeks end and we either Sign very good player or we miss out again and questions need to be asked why we cannot attract quality players.

Make him Captain - are you serious???? Sheesh.


Can't be any worst that Mybe - Sheesh Back Russell

It all depends what carrot you have to dangle to get him.
He may not want the Captaincy but stroke the players ego also sometimes works.

I am offering suggestions not negativity, Cheers.

I'm offering Tamou - not a loud mouthed pea brain who needs his ego stroked every
five minutes. No experience at either FB or captain but hey sell WA to get him over
the line. He is just a winger, sooner or later he will prove it to you.

Tamou is a good suggestion, however think he is an elite winger that can make the transition to Fullback.
Pea brain well what does that make Mybe Pea soup???
We do need to attract one good signing so others might follow will just have to see after QLD win tonight.....lol

 

[Thaiger]

"The Storm have reportedly upped Addo-Carr’s deal from $350,000 to $480,000 for next year."
His head must be spinning - too many options.

Our initial offer was apparently more than that and Pom thinks we might even offer more so money wise we are head of Melbourne, plus he can come back to Sydney plus he can play fullback

It’s a frustrating time atm, but the other possible scenario is they already know JAC is not coming and signed Laurie instead?

Though I do hope he is coming and we will now have excellent depth.

I get us trying to get JAC particularly if we can get him here for 2021. I find this rush to try and sign other fringe players for 2022 (& even if we can get them here earlier) puzzling particularly when they aren't proven and they could get injured next year etc. We seem to be grabbing whatever we can - not sure why.

Locking them in for a low price if they're any good these days will probably just mean we have to upgrade or they'll walk anyway. We only have about 2 spots left in our Top 30 - next year hopefully a top 8 but we know it will be difficult with the roster we currently have.

Why not keep our powder dry? Hopefully get JAC & we will be in a position of strength for 2022 cap wise and reassess closer to end of 2021. Wise men say.....

I'll trust our recruitment strategy but I do query we are thinking this through clearly.