JAC

[JC99]

There are lessons, tragedies and complications beyond comprehension experienced by those who follow our team.

Paying my membership to charity next year, sick of throwing good money after bad. Until somebody is accountable for the failing or the club challenges the ineffective NRL salary cap I will just be giving the game a wide berth. Call it sooking but I’d rather call it being a realist, we’re a total dumpster fire.

Sooking, that should help the club.

It seems to be the chairmans tactic, sooking that we have no blues reps.
Very disapointing day mate.

It is, but this wasn't the clubs doing, you can't sign someone who doesn't want to be here.

Well they had him agreeing to next year but couldnt get it over the line. A good club would have nailed it.

He decided he was worth more. Tigers thought he wasn’t. That’s business. I don’t think a good club would’ve given him $800k to play fullback when he’s never played it at first grade before

 

[cochise]

There are lessons, tragedies and complications beyond comprehension experienced by those who follow our team.

Paying my membership to charity next year, sick of throwing good money after bad. Until somebody is accountable for the failing or the club challenges the ineffective NRL salary cap I will just be giving the game a wide berth. Call it sooking but I’d rather call it being a realist, we’re a total dumpster fire.

Sooking, that should help the club.

It seems to be the chairmans tactic, sooking that we have no blues reps.
Very disapointing day mate.

It is, but this wasn't the clubs doing, you can't sign someone who doesn't want to be here.

Well they had him agreeing to next year but couldnt get it over the line. A good club would have nailed it.

How do you stop people getting in his ear and changing his mind?

 

[gallagher]

There are lessons, tragedies and complications beyond comprehension experienced by those who follow our team.

Paying my membership to charity next year, sick of throwing good money after bad. Until somebody is accountable for the failing or the club challenges the ineffective NRL salary cap I will just be giving the game a wide berth. Call it sooking but I’d rather call it being a realist, we’re a total dumpster fire.

Sooking, that should help the club.

It seems to be the chairmans tactic, sooking that we have no blues reps.
Very disapointing day mate.

It is, but this wasn't the clubs doing, you can't sign someone who doesn't want to be here.

Well they had him agreeing to next year but couldnt get it over the line. A good club would have nailed it.

He decided he was worth more. Tigers thought he wasn’t. That’s business. I don’t think a good club would’ve given him $800k to play fullback when he’s never played it at first grade before

He's not getting $800 k from Melb.

 

[voice_of_reason]

It would be interesting to know when - relative to signing with a new agent - he signed the agreement. I suspect his new agent has dollars signs in his eyes ala Scrooge McDuck.

Half of an agent's job is convincing clubs what a player is worth; the other half is stroking the player so he believes it too.

 

[BAGNF05]

There are lessons, tragedies and complications beyond comprehension experienced by those who follow our team.

Paying my membership to charity next year, sick of throwing good money after bad. Until somebody is accountable for the failing or the club challenges the ineffective NRL salary cap I will just be giving the game a wide berth. Call it sooking but I’d rather call it being a realist, we’re a total dumpster fire.

Sooking, that should help the club.

It seems to be the chairmans tactic, sooking that we have no blues reps.
Very disapointing day mate.

It is, but this wasn't the clubs doing, you can't sign someone who doesn't want to be here.

Well they had him agreeing to next year but couldnt get it over the line. A good club would have nailed it.

How do you stop people getting in his ear and changing his mind?

There are lessons, tragedies and complications beyond comprehension experienced by those who follow our team.

Paying my membership to charity next year, sick of throwing good money after bad. Until somebody is accountable for the failing or the club challenges the ineffective NRL salary cap I will just be giving the game a wide berth. Call it sooking but I’d rather call it being a realist, we’re a total dumpster fire.

Sooking, that should help the club.

It seems to be the chairmans tactic, sooking that we have no blues reps.
Very disapointing day mate.

It is, but this wasn't the clubs doing, you can't sign someone who doesn't want to be here.

Well they had him agreeing to next year but couldnt get it over the line. A good club would have nailed it.

How do you stop people getting in his ear and changing his mind?

We need a ruthless leader like PVL, you take a contract and a pen and if you walk out without a deal u schedule a meeting with another player that afternoon. Burton should be training with us whenever we start back.

 

[cochise]

There are lessons, tragedies and complications beyond comprehension experienced by those who follow our team.

Paying my membership to charity next year, sick of throwing good money after bad. Until somebody is accountable for the failing or the club challenges the ineffective NRL salary cap I will just be giving the game a wide berth. Call it sooking but I’d rather call it being a realist, we’re a total dumpster fire.

Sooking, that should help the club.

It seems to be the chairmans tactic, sooking that we have no blues reps.
Very disapointing day mate.

It is, but this wasn't the clubs doing, you can't sign someone who doesn't want to be here.

Well they had him agreeing to next year but couldnt get it over the line. A good club would have nailed it.

He decided he was worth more. Tigers thought he wasn’t. That’s business. I don’t think a good club would’ve given him $800k to play fullback when he’s never played it at first grade before

He's not getting $800 k from Melb.

I don't think he will ever get $800k

 

[gallagher]

There are lessons, tragedies and complications beyond comprehension experienced by those who follow our team.

Paying my membership to charity next year, sick of throwing good money after bad. Until somebody is accountable for the failing or the club challenges the ineffective NRL salary cap I will just be giving the game a wide berth. Call it sooking but I’d rather call it being a realist, we’re a total dumpster fire.

Sooking, that should help the club.

It seems to be the chairmans tactic, sooking that we have no blues reps.
Very disapointing day mate.

It is, but this wasn't the clubs doing, you can't sign someone who doesn't want to be here.

Well they had him agreeing to next year but couldnt get it over the line. A good club would have nailed it.

How do you stop people getting in his ear and changing his mind?

I just think its letting the recruitment team off easy by just saying 'he didnt want to come'.
Theres always an excuse but never change.

 

[Bones]

Seriously, this forum has either been infiltrated or some people have turned into complete tools. All this 'i had lunch with pascoe' or " i mixed it in the chairmans lounge with important people" just makes you look a complete flog.

Growing problem with the forum, a lot of little hints here and all hot air since clearly some in management don't know what is happening day to day.

It is sad that people got their hopes up because of this nonsense when it was absolutely clear from early on that he didn't want to come here. People are blinded by their love of the club and fail to make sound judgements about what the elite players think. It is too much effort to write a proper analysis of this but we are run by people who don't understand the game they are in as well as the competition. We are played by the media, player managers and opposition clubs. We aren't the only bad club, but we definitely aren't a good one.

My only hope for the next 3 years is the football department's investment in gun juniors, at least it is a clear plan that we are executing.

Interesting that an SMH article says he plans to meet with Tigers management post Origin to discuss a deal for 2022.

At the end of the day Melbourne convinced him to stay by throwing more cash at him. At the very least they now have less to offer anyone else and we are in the same position we started.

 

[cochise]

There are lessons, tragedies and complications beyond comprehension experienced by those who follow our team.

Paying my membership to charity next year, sick of throwing good money after bad. Until somebody is accountable for the failing or the club challenges the ineffective NRL salary cap I will just be giving the game a wide berth. Call it sooking but I’d rather call it being a realist, we’re a total dumpster fire.

Sooking, that should help the club.

It seems to be the chairmans tactic, sooking that we have no blues reps.
Very disapointing day mate.

It is, but this wasn't the clubs doing, you can't sign someone who doesn't want to be here.

Well they had him agreeing to next year but couldnt get it over the line. A good club would have nailed it.

How do you stop people getting in his ear and changing his mind?

There are lessons, tragedies and complications beyond comprehension experienced by those who follow our team.

Paying my membership to charity next year, sick of throwing good money after bad. Until somebody is accountable for the failing or the club challenges the ineffective NRL salary cap I will just be giving the game a wide berth. Call it sooking but I’d rather call it being a realist, we’re a total dumpster fire.

Sooking, that should help the club.

It seems to be the chairmans tactic, sooking that we have no blues reps.
Very disapointing day mate.

It is, but this wasn't the clubs doing, you can't sign someone who doesn't want to be here.

Well they had him agreeing to next year but couldnt get it over the line. A good club would have nailed it.

How do you stop people getting in his ear and changing his mind?

We need a ruthless leader like PVL, you take a contract and a pen and if you walk out without a deal u schedule a meeting with another player that afternoon. Burton should be training with us whenever we start back.

Yep and end up signing no one, because when you do the same to Burton you have to move onto your next meeting. It doesn't work like that.

 

[cochise]

There are lessons, tragedies and complications beyond comprehension experienced by those who follow our team.

Paying my membership to charity next year, sick of throwing good money after bad. Until somebody is accountable for the failing or the club challenges the ineffective NRL salary cap I will just be giving the game a wide berth. Call it sooking but I’d rather call it being a realist, we’re a total dumpster fire.

Sooking, that should help the club.

It seems to be the chairmans tactic, sooking that we have no blues reps.
Very disapointing day mate.

It is, but this wasn't the clubs doing, you can't sign someone who doesn't want to be here.

Well they had him agreeing to next year but couldnt get it over the line. A good club would have nailed it.

How do you stop people getting in his ear and changing his mind?

I just think its letting the recruitment team off easy by just saying 'he didnt want to come'.
Theres always an excuse but never change.

Mate, as I've said before I will judge them on the aspects that are fully in their control. You can't fully control a players decision. Waht you can control and what I will judge them on are the players they actually do sign.

 

[BAGNF05]

There are lessons, tragedies and complications beyond comprehension experienced by those who follow our team.

Paying my membership to charity next year, sick of throwing good money after bad. Until somebody is accountable for the failing or the club challenges the ineffective NRL salary cap I will just be giving the game a wide berth. Call it sooking but I’d rather call it being a realist, we’re a total dumpster fire.

Sooking, that should help the club.

It seems to be the chairmans tactic, sooking that we have no blues reps.
Very disapointing day mate.

It is, but this wasn't the clubs doing, you can't sign someone who doesn't want to be here.

Well they had him agreeing to next year but couldnt get it over the line. A good club would have nailed it.

How do you stop people getting in his ear and changing his mind?

There are lessons, tragedies and complications beyond comprehension experienced by those who follow our team.

Paying my membership to charity next year, sick of throwing good money after bad. Until somebody is accountable for the failing or the club challenges the ineffective NRL salary cap I will just be giving the game a wide berth. Call it sooking but I’d rather call it being a realist, we’re a total dumpster fire.

Sooking, that should help the club.

It seems to be the chairmans tactic, sooking that we have no blues reps.
Very disapointing day mate.

It is, but this wasn't the clubs doing, you can't sign someone who doesn't want to be here.

Well they had him agreeing to next year but couldnt get it over the line. A good club would have nailed it.

How do you stop people getting in his ear and changing his mind?

We need a ruthless leader like PVL, you take a contract and a pen and if you walk out without a deal u schedule a meeting with another player that afternoon. Burton should be training with us whenever we start back.

Yep and end up signing no one, because when you do the same to Burton you have to move onto your next meeting. It doesn't work like that.

Better than JAC watch day 85 and a disgruntled bunch of members/fans. Our current approach is diabolical

 

[jrtiger]

if JAC thinks he's worth $800k that's on him. we should be proud of our club putting ourselves in a position where we weren't screwed over by a Sydney club. Melbourne always held the cards.

who knows, we might sign Gebbie or the pommy outside back on minimum wage, get Laurie a year early and be hailed as geniuses for not bowing to Addo-Carr's demands. as far as I'm concerned I think that's the way to go, and in time I think you'll see the dividends.

 

[cochise]

There are lessons, tragedies and complications beyond comprehension experienced by those who follow our team.

Paying my membership to charity next year, sick of throwing good money after bad. Until somebody is accountable for the failing or the club challenges the ineffective NRL salary cap I will just be giving the game a wide berth. Call it sooking but I’d rather call it being a realist, we’re a total dumpster fire.

Sooking, that should help the club.

It seems to be the chairmans tactic, sooking that we have no blues reps.
Very disapointing day mate.

It is, but this wasn't the clubs doing, you can't sign someone who doesn't want to be here.

Well they had him agreeing to next year but couldnt get it over the line. A good club would have nailed it.

How do you stop people getting in his ear and changing his mind?

There are lessons, tragedies and complications beyond comprehension experienced by those who follow our team.

Paying my membership to charity next year, sick of throwing good money after bad. Until somebody is accountable for the failing or the club challenges the ineffective NRL salary cap I will just be giving the game a wide berth. Call it sooking but I’d rather call it being a realist, we’re a total dumpster fire.

Sooking, that should help the club.

It seems to be the chairmans tactic, sooking that we have no blues reps.
Very disapointing day mate.

It is, but this wasn't the clubs doing, you can't sign someone who doesn't want to be here.

Well they had him agreeing to next year but couldnt get it over the line. A good club would have nailed it.

How do you stop people getting in his ear and changing his mind?

We need a ruthless leader like PVL, you take a contract and a pen and if you walk out without a deal u schedule a meeting with another player that afternoon. Burton should be training with us whenever we start back.

Yep and end up signing no one, because when you do the same to Burton you have to move onto your next meeting. It doesn't work like that.

Better than JAC watch day 85 and a disgruntled bunch of members/fans. Our current approach is diabolical

You think today was the 1st inkling the club had that he didn't want to be here?

 

[TrueTiger]

I think that some of us could smell the rat from the time Souths started farewelling players....I also absolutely cant blame the club for its handling of these negotiations,they conducted themselves professionally throughout...
People should see that JAC used the WTs as a means to up his salary while he spends the next season with the storm on more money and then he will be wearing Rabitohs colours in 2022..
It is extremely poor of him and his manager to claim compassionate grounds for family when JAC clearly stated he would not be in Melb in 2021,then suddenly after Souths cast off players he said ''I can stay another year in Melb''so as to give Souths time to get the cap right to have him in 2022..
I said way earlier that JAC didnt leave on very good terms and it astounded me how many people fell back in love with the guy because of how well he has done since his move to Storm...
He has always been in thick with the brotherhood,ie,LM ,CW and co he proved that with his firearms play on the farm with LM..
I can see utter disappointment by some that he wont be here,myself on the other hand couldnt careless that he didnt come here because he really has shown his true colours and the WTs has shown that they can conduct themselves in a professionally and well organised manner...
If he had been fairdinkum and signed for 2022 then my opinion of him would have been much better and I would have been happy to see him in our club playing for the club he supposedly loved growing up...

 

[JC99]

There are lessons, tragedies and complications beyond comprehension experienced by those who follow our team.

Paying my membership to charity next year, sick of throwing good money after bad. Until somebody is accountable for the failing or the club challenges the ineffective NRL salary cap I will just be giving the game a wide berth. Call it sooking but I’d rather call it being a realist, we’re a total dumpster fire.

Sooking, that should help the club.

It seems to be the chairmans tactic, sooking that we have no blues reps.
Very disapointing day mate.

It is, but this wasn't the clubs doing, you can't sign someone who doesn't want to be here.

Well they had him agreeing to next year but couldnt get it over the line. A good club would have nailed it.

He decided he was worth more. Tigers thought he wasn’t. That’s business. I don’t think a good club would’ve given him $800k to play fullback when he’s never played it at first grade before

He's not getting $800 k from Melb.

He’s confident he will get that from someone in 2022 though. Didn’t want to be stuck on 600k with us

 

[Tim Sheens]

There are lessons, tragedies and complications beyond comprehension experienced by those who follow our team.

Paying my membership to charity next year, sick of throwing good money after bad. Until somebody is accountable for the failing or the club challenges the ineffective NRL salary cap I will just be giving the game a wide berth. Call it sooking but I’d rather call it being a realist, we’re a total dumpster fire.

Sooking, that should help the club.

It seems to be the chairmans tactic, sooking that we have no blues reps.
Very disapointing day mate.

It is, but this wasn't the clubs doing, you can't sign someone who doesn't want to be here.

Well they had him agreeing to next year but couldnt get it over the line. A good club would have nailed it.

He decided he was worth more. Tigers thought he wasn’t. That’s business. I don’t think a good club would’ve given him $800k to play fullback when he’s never played it at first grade before

He's not getting $800 k from Melb.

He’s confident he will get that from someone in 2022 though. Didn’t want to be stuck on 600k with us

Tell him he's dreaming.

 

[Blocktiger]

This appears to me that.

a) Josh wanted to move back to Sydney. Melbourne really really did not want to lose him because he is a very good player for them and it would be bad business to just let the best winger in the game walk.
b) Josh proceeded to demonstrate said quality for the entire time since this whole saga began, just making Melbourne even more reluctant to let him walk.
c) The Tigers won the contract. They literally were the only club in the running and there was an agreement signed specifically to ensure that it was legally above board.
d) Since the signing of the HOA everything has been about negotiating a release with Melbourne. Melbourne trying to get compensation for the best winger in the NRL. The literal only way they ever do this as good business is to get David Nofoaluma's contract, the current Dally M winger of the year.
e) The Wests Tigers chose to keep David because he's also really good, wants to be here, supplies no drama and we need to show loyalty to that. Also he probably didn't want to move to Melbourne.
f) Melbourne decided to make one last attempt to bury the issue after seeing him absolutely tear up in Origin and gave him a pay bump to just put it off one year. Addo Carr's advisors tell him that there's probably no other option if Melbourne won't release him, so he accepts.

If this is how it played out. Then i fail to see how our club did anything wrong or what everyone is whining about.

What evidence is there to suggest that this isn't hat

Best post yet spot on. Everyone is saying that josh doesn't wanna come here. Not once has he said that if he didn't want to come he would of not signed the HOA. Its in Melbourne's hands not his also I dont think he is going to sign for 2022 now and trap himself in a corner for 2021. As no team will give a player at all to help out in anyway knowing they have no chance at josh.

 

[gallagher]

There are lessons, tragedies and complications beyond comprehension experienced by those who follow our team.

Paying my membership to charity next year, sick of throwing good money after bad. Until somebody is accountable for the failing or the club challenges the ineffective NRL salary cap I will just be giving the game a wide berth. Call it sooking but I’d rather call it being a realist, we’re a total dumpster fire.

Sooking, that should help the club.

It seems to be the chairmans tactic, sooking that we have no blues reps.
Very disapointing day mate.

It is, but this wasn't the clubs doing, you can't sign someone who doesn't want to be here.

Well they had him agreeing to next year but couldnt get it over the line. A good club would have nailed it.

He decided he was worth more. Tigers thought he wasn’t. That’s business. I don’t think a good club would’ve given him $800k to play fullback when he’s never played it at first grade before

He's not getting $800 k from Melb.

He’s confident he will get that from someone in 2022 though. Didn’t want to be stuck on 600k with us

I wonder why? We're a destination club:joy:

 

[jrtiger]

There are lessons, tragedies and complications beyond comprehension experienced by those who follow our team.

Paying my membership to charity next year, sick of throwing good money after bad. Until somebody is accountable for the failing or the club challenges the ineffective NRL salary cap I will just be giving the game a wide berth. Call it sooking but I’d rather call it being a realist, we’re a total dumpster fire.

Sooking, that should help the club.

It seems to be the chairmans tactic, sooking that we have no blues reps.
Very disapointing day mate.

It is, but this wasn't the clubs doing, you can't sign someone who doesn't want to be here.

Well they had him agreeing to next year but couldnt get it over the line. A good club would have nailed it.

He decided he was worth more. Tigers thought he wasn’t. That’s business. I don’t think a good club would’ve given him $800k to play fullback when he’s never played it at first grade before

He's not getting $800 k from Melb.

He’s confident he will get that from someone in 2022 though. Didn’t want to be stuck on 600k with us

don't know how he's going to get it. $800k is genuine fullback money, I don't even think Gutherson is on that. unless Papenhuyzen goes down and they decide to throw him in there, him and Tartak are going to have a tough time convincing anyone that that price tag can be vindicated for a winger, no matter how good he is.

 

[Spida]

There are lessons, tragedies and complications beyond comprehension experienced by those who follow our team.

Paying my membership to charity next year, sick of throwing good money after bad. Until somebody is accountable for the failing or the club challenges the ineffective NRL salary cap I will just be giving the game a wide berth. Call it sooking but I’d rather call it being a realist, we’re a total dumpster fire.

Sooking, that should help the club.

It seems to be the chairmans tactic, sooking that we have no blues reps.
Very disapointing day mate.

It is, but this wasn't the clubs doing, you can't sign someone who doesn't want to be here.

Well they had him agreeing to next year but couldnt get it over the line. A good club would have nailed it.

He decided he was worth more. Tigers thought he wasn’t. That’s business. I don’t think a good club would’ve given him $800k to play fullback when he’s never played it at first grade before

He's not getting $800 k from Melb.

He’s confident he will get that from someone in 2022 though. Didn’t want to be stuck on 600k with us

I would never wish injury on anyone, what he is doing is a massive risk.injury or poor form and his potential wage drops.

Good luck to him