James Tedesco Signs with Roosters [Official]

[cochise]

The fact that this thread is 95 pages long in April proves what a joke the NRL is, if they actually did what other sports do and have all this crap AFTER the season, you know October and November when we should be talking about this crap in the off season>?

I could just imagine the NFL doing this.. Tom Brady has signed with the Green Bay Packers for 2019 but meanwhile is still playing for the pats, so green bays Aron Rogers is looking for a NFL team to sign too and 31 other teams are after him.

Could you seriously imagine American sport doing this at the start of a season??

NFL is not really a good example to use in this regard, the NFL season is 5 months long, NRL season is up to 9 months for some players. We do need a better system but an October/ November signing period will not work when many players are playing international football.

Season length has nothing to do with it, baseball play 162 games a year and do the smart thing and have free agency when?? you guess it when the season ends in October!!! so they have free agency signings happen in November ready for spring training in March/. their is also international baseball too

NRL is run by armatures there are, and dont give me that crap about players wanna know where they wanna be with 7 months notice, because not us real life people who work jobs don't get paid 800k a year to know where we will be in 7 months time either

Don't they have a pre-contract window in EPL from January, for players to sign deals for the next season while seeing out the current one with their clubs? That league seems to go alright.

We definitely need a signing period, October/ November is not the right time for it though, we often have players on the other side of the world playing internationals at that time, maybe a signing period in July will work?

 

[ricksen]

The fact that this thread is 95 pages long in April proves what a joke the NRL is, if they actually did what other sports do and have all this crap AFTER the season, you know October and November when we should be talking about this crap in the off season>?

I could just imagine the NFL doing this.. Tom Brady has signed with the Green Bay Packers for 2019 but meanwhile is still playing for the pats, so green bays Aron Rogers is looking for a NFL team to sign too and 31 other teams are after him.

Could you seriously imagine American sport doing this at the start of a season??

NFL is not really a good example to use in this regard, the NFL season is 5 months long, NRL season is up to 9 months for some players. We do need a better system but an October/ November signing period will not work when many players are playing international football.

Season length has nothing to do with it, baseball play 162 games a year and do the smart thing and have free agency when?? you guess it when the season ends in October!!! so they have free agency signings happen in November ready for spring training in March/. their is also international baseball too

NRL is run by armatures there are, and dont give me that crap about players wanna know where they wanna be with 7 months notice, because not us real life people who work jobs don't get paid 800k a year to know where we will be in 7 months time either

Don't they have a pre-contract window in EPL from January, for players to sign deals for the next season while seeing out the current one with their clubs? That league seems to go alright.

In European soccer, there's a transfer window in their Summer that opens at the conclusion of the various seasons, and closes at the end of August.
There's another mid-season transfer window for the duration of January.
Players move as they're signed, then and there.
Not really a great comparison though, as contracts are bought out by clubs, and very few players move as free agents. There's also loans and even co-ownership (in Italy), so they're a bit all over the shop.

The American examples are slightly more relevant in that free agency is a big thing, but the comparison suffers when you see the differences in $$.
The AFL system isn't perfect by any means, but it's a damn sight better than the current NRL incarnation, and we should definitely have a look at their system to see where we can improve (protected contracts for home-grown players, signing windows, trades, internal draft etc).

 

[05TIGZ]

Andrew webster on sky sports radio said whispers are getting louder in the last 24 hours that Tedesco going to the rorters. big developments in third party payment organised by politis.

 

[BlackandGoldForever]

Been there done that we had the June 30 deadline and the same crap happened. when going near the end of the season the last thing fans wanna hear is playing leaving your club.

Heres what it should be, if you want a damm mid season signing once again do it like American sport once that player signs with that other club he is GONE he goes straight to that team effective immediately

so if Tedesco and woods wanna go see you later, then BANG go ahead that means you play for the dogs this weekend, which means the dogs would have to then get their salary cap worked out. they could also offload players to other clubs or have a waiver wire

Also have some sort of injury thing so this top 25 crap thing gets sorted also noting american sport have a disabled list, and IR, so if a player like Inglis tears his ACL week 1 he goes on the injury list IR which means 1 he is not allowed to play another game this season because he is on injured reserve and 2 Souths would then be able to use that cap money to trade for players, because it doesn't count to the cap.

Loyalty is out the window now, so you might as well let trades and mid season signings happen.

All this stuff can be done but won't be done because it's all to good and the NRL wanna stay behind the times thinking it's the 1970s

 

[WestsBenTigers]

Been there done that we had the June 30 deadline and the same crap happened. when going near the end of the season the last thing fans wanna hear is playing leaving your club.

Heres what it should be, if you want a damm mid season signing once again do it like American sport once that player signs with that other club he is GONE he goes straight to that team effective immediately

so if Tedesco and woods wanna go see you later, then BANG go ahead that means you play for the dogs this weekend, which means the dogs would have to then get their salary cap worked out. they could also offload players to other clubs or have a waiver wire

Also have some sort of injury thing so this top 25 crap thing gets sorted also noting american sport have a disabled list, and IR, so if a player like Inglis tears his ACL week 1 he goes on the injury list IR which means 1 he is not allowed to play another game this season because he is on injured reserve and 2 Souths would then be able to use that cap money to trade for players, because it doesn't count to the cap.

Loyalty is out the window now, so you might as well let trades and mid season signings happen.

All this stuff can be done but won't be done because it's all to good and the NRL wanna stay behind the times thinking it's the 1970s

I like the idea of a disabled list

 

[Baze]

Andrew webster on sky sports radio said whispers are getting louder in the last 24 hours that Tedesco going to the rorters. big developments in third party payment organised by politis.

Correct. As i wrote yesterday, a deal has been struck. This is the first the media has picked up on it, but expect more of the same to come out over the next week. His camp and the Roosters want to keep it under wraps until after the COP, but are realistic in the expectation that it will get out.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I say we put all of these conflicting reliable sources in a pit and have them fight to the death till there is only one, true, reliable source.

 

[balmain boy]

Andrew webster on sky sports radio said whispers are getting louder in the last 24 hours that Tedesco going to the rorters. big developments in third party payment organised by politis.

Correct. As i wrote yesterday, a deal has been struck. This is the first the media has picked up on it, but expect more of the same to come out over the next week. His camp and the Roosters want to keep it under wraps until after the COP, but are realistic in the expectation that it will get out.

Right… Someone who literally just joined the forum yesterday and starts sprouting 'inside knowledge'.

 

[The_Queen]

Don't you think if they wanted to stay it would already be done they both have Tigers as backups that's all I wish the Tigers would say goodbye times up

 

[bonstonker]

Also have some sort of injury thing so this top 25 crap thing gets sorted also noting american sport have a disabled list, and IR, so if a player like Inglis tears his ACL week 1 he goes on the injury list IR which means 1 he is not allowed to play another game this season because he is on injured reserve and 2 Souths would then be able to use that cap money to trade for players, because it doesn't count to the cap.

they do count against the cap.
some will do a injury settlement and be cut while most are straight ir and full pay while incentive bonuses not reached will not be paid.
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the beauty of the nfl model is that there is always something relevant in the nfl each month of the offseason.

8 days till draft day :righton:

 

[BlackandGoldForever]

that exact same post word for word about Andrew Webster is also on the chookpen forum so who copied and pasted it first?

 

[Telltails]

ALL the rumours sound believable to me, just dont know what the truth is. The fact the twitter account is down worries me usually means you are avoiding a backlash.
Its going to be a long year- possibly having three players - arguably our best, all contracted to other clubs for next season. As a fan it sucks.

 

[cochise]

Been there done that we had the June 30 deadline and the same crap happened. when going near the end of the season the last thing fans wanna hear is playing leaving your club.

Heres what it should be, if you want a damm mid season signing once again do it like American sport once that player signs with that other club he is GONE he goes straight to that team effective immediately

so if Tedesco and woods wanna go see you later, then BANG go ahead that means you play for the dogs this weekend, which means the dogs would have to then get their salary cap worked out. they could also offload players to other clubs or have a waiver wire

Also have some sort of injury thing so this top 25 crap thing gets sorted also noting american sport have a disabled list, and IR, so if a player like Inglis tears his ACL week 1 he goes on the injury list IR which means 1 he is not allowed to play another game this season because he is on injured reserve and 2 Souths would then be able to use that cap money to trade for players, because it doesn't count to the cap.

Loyalty is out the window now, so you might as well let trades and mid season signings happen.

All this stuff can be done but won't be done because it's all to good and the NRL wanna stay behind the times thinking it's the 1970s

That would kill Rugby League, that is also not how it works in the NFL. The NFL has many things we could implement in Rugby League, things like rookie contracts would be a huge step forward for the game. Players changing clubs as soon as they sign with a new team is not something we should look at.

 

[sunshine_coast_tiger]

Andrew webster on sky sports radio said whispers are getting louder in the last 24 hours that Tedesco going to the rorters. big developments in third party payment organised by politis.

This is what is wrong with the NRL. Third Party Agreements need to be either caped or scraped by the NRL if they want a fair Salary Cap between the clubs.

I read there was over $15 million in registered Third Party Agreements last year with the NRL, I have heard from a few reliable sources that about 85% of that amount is paid by 4 clubs. Third Party Agreements in reality is a way to ensure the better backed sides have the best rosters.

I think we should be able to say to the NRL that as Tedesco is our local junior that we offered say $1.1 million a year under the Salary Cap to him. The NRL then should refuse to register a contract of his with any other club unless the amount in the Salary Cap for that club is at least that amount. We may still lose the player but the club he went to would have to cut other players to make their salary cap work (might even out the talent a bit).

What has happened to Third Party Agreements by Harry T, he has way more connections and clout than Nick Politis could only dream of.

I for one would by pissed out if we lose James Tedesco as I think he might be the most gifted footballer I have seen developed by my club in my 30 plus years of watching rugby league. He is a a must hold and if he goes, management should go.

 

[BlackandGoldForever]

Been there done that we had the June 30 deadline and the same crap happened. when going near the end of the season the last thing fans wanna hear is playing leaving your club.

Heres what it should be, if you want a damm mid season signing once again do it like American sport once that player signs with that other club he is GONE he goes straight to that team effective immediately

so if Tedesco and woods wanna go see you later, then BANG go ahead that means you play for the dogs this weekend, which means the dogs would have to then get their salary cap worked out. they could also offload players to other clubs or have a waiver wire

Also have some sort of injury thing so this top 25 crap thing gets sorted also noting american sport have a disabled list, and IR, so if a player like Inglis tears his ACL week 1 he goes on the injury list IR which means 1 he is not allowed to play another game this season because he is on injured reserve and 2 Souths would then be able to use that cap money to trade for players, because it doesn't count to the cap.

Loyalty is out the window now, so you might as well let trades and mid season signings happen.

All this stuff can be done but won't be done because it's all to good and the NRL wanna stay behind the times thinking it's the 1970s

That would kill Rugby League, that is also not how it works in the NFL. The NFL has many things we could implement in Rugby League, things like rookie contracts would be a huge step forward for the game. Players changing clubs as soon as they sign with a new team is not something we should look at.

Why would it kill Rugby League?? we are already getting killed now with signings for next year in Mid April I don't wanna see players for the next 5 months like Moses who don't wanna be at our club and go somewhere else next year. without fans you don't have a game, and it's a joke to see this. if players wanna piss off then go straight away.

 

[cochise]

Been there done that we had the June 30 deadline and the same crap happened. when going near the end of the season the last thing fans wanna hear is playing leaving your club.

Heres what it should be, if you want a damm mid season signing once again do it like American sport once that player signs with that other club he is GONE he goes straight to that team effective immediately

so if Tedesco and woods wanna go see you later, then BANG go ahead that means you play for the dogs this weekend, which means the dogs would have to then get their salary cap worked out. they could also offload players to other clubs or have a waiver wire

Also have some sort of injury thing so this top 25 crap thing gets sorted also noting american sport have a disabled list, and IR, so if a player like Inglis tears his ACL week 1 he goes on the injury list IR which means 1 he is not allowed to play another game this season because he is on injured reserve and 2 Souths would then be able to use that cap money to trade for players, because it doesn't count to the cap.

Loyalty is out the window now, so you might as well let trades and mid season signings happen.

All this stuff can be done but won't be done because it's all to good and the NRL wanna stay behind the times thinking it's the 1970s

That would kill Rugby League, that is also not how it works in the NFL. The NFL has many things we could implement in Rugby League, things like rookie contracts would be a huge step forward for the game. Players changing clubs as soon as they sign with a new team is not something we should look at.

Why would it kill Rugby League?? we are already getting killed now with signings for next year in Mid April

Seriously? the squad at the end of the season would barely resemble the team from the start. Imagine a side having a great start to the year only to have their best player sign with another club for the following season. Under this system the player would then have to change clubs immediately, ruining the teams chance for the year. Dumbest idea I've heard in a long time.

 

[tigermac88]

I think he's already signed with the Rorters hence why he's shut down his Twitter like somebody previously said.. If he's made that decision then there's not a lot we can do about it, Hopefully we put that money to good use

 

[BlackandGoldForever]

it happens in Baseball in the MLB, did you not know that?? lots of trades happen when teams give up and wanna tank, so they send their stars to other clubs for trades. so the teams having a good year would get even more better>

Loyally is out of the window now anyway so why not have it?? Players don't wanna be loyal to the club so why should the club be loyal to players?? If Tedesco thinks the roosters are a better richer club with better management and a better chance of winning then he can go now. same for Woods. then the roosters can pay off the rest of his contract and therefore if they want him so bad they can get rid of some of their younger players to us.

Mid season trades perfect. this is why the salary cap doesn't work in the NRL

 

[Roar_Power]

So much heresay out there about Teddy to the Roosters. I am personally not confident of retaining him. Isn't Latrell Mitchell on the outer? Could be a good pick up in the event we lose our bloke.

 

[bonstonker]

it happens in Baseball in the MLB, did you not know that?? lots of trades happen when teams give up and wanna tank, so they send their stars to other clubs for trades. so the teams having a good year would get even more better>

Loyally is out of the window now anyway so why not have it?? Players don't wanna be loyal to the club so why should the club be loyal to players?? If Tedesco thinks the roosters are a better richer club with better management and a better chance of winning then he can go now. same for Woods. then the roosters can pay off the rest of his contract and therefore if they want him so bad they can get rid of some of their younger players to us.

Mid season trades perfect. this is why the salary cap doesn't work in the NRL

they both have drafts.
the trades are made to extract value from their assets that they feel are depreciating.
you want trades for spite.