OFFICIAL Jersey Flegg Cup

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Tigers_Wests said:
Some confusing selections in both NSW Cup and Jersey Flegg this week (if they do run out like this). I can't understand why Tallyn and Kit aren't in the team this week. The only reason could be injury. They were excellent last week and are the future moving forward. Great to see Faagutu get his 1st game though!

If Tumeth is fit, he should be playing Cup ahead of Boyling.

Anyone heard of Ghantous before?
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Probably resting them, no need to put their bodies though it every week when they are already playing up a couple years
 
balmain boy said:
Very bizarre stuff. And signing two hookers in the last week, when da Silva is just coming into grade, Rua is fit again, as is Tannous. Why would we sign this Ghantous for Flegg? And bring back Cherrington makes a little more sense so we don't rush the kids but still it's all very erratic
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Very hard to work out.
Jamie Lawler has been good off the bench as a replacement number 9, so not sure why we would re-sign the much older Cherrington ?
Ghantous has been highly rated throughout the juniors while with the Bulldogs, but as you say, why would we sign someone who will take away the development of some of our own home grown talent in the same position ?
 
Vicious said:
Very hard to work out.
Jamie Lawler has been good off the bench as a replacement number 9, so not sure why we would re-sign the much older Cherrington ?
Ghantous has been highly rated throughout the juniors while with the Bulldogs, but as you say, why would we sign someone who will take away the development of some of our own home grown talent in the same position ?
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Just because we’ve identified him for the future doesn’t mean he should get a rails run. Needs to work hard. For years we’ve had a lot of players that think they better than what they are imo.
 
Maybe it was the carry on by that young fella after he scored that try last week. Seriously what was that about?
Is this the famous Farrah influence?
 
Vicious said:
Very hard to work out.
Jamie Lawler has been good off the bench as a replacement number 9, so not sure why we would re-sign the much older Cherrington ?
Ghantous has been highly rated throughout the juniors while with the Bulldogs, but as you say, why would we sign someone who will take away the development of some of our own home grown talent in the same position ?
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Ahem, we signed Papalili, Bateman. We lost Kautoga and O'Kane. That's footy, you can't have it both ways.
The jump in standard from Matt's to Ball to Flegg to Cup to NRL gets steeper with each step. More don't make the final step than you realise. Statistically, mostfall away after Ball. Flegg to Cup really sorts the men from the boys, so to speak.
 
balmain boy said:
Very bizarre stuff. And signing two hookers in the last week, when da Silva is just coming into grade, Rua is fit again, as is Tannous. Why would we sign this Ghantous for Flegg? And bring back Cherrington makes a little more sense so we don't rush the kids but still it's all very erratic
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Cayne Nicholas is a more than capable hooker in Flegg too and playing him for part of the game at 9 gives a chance for the team to play another middle at 13 out of Herman/Tuipolotu/Owen/Kit/Lomi/Miller/ Fa'agutu.

It's just strange when you look at the depth we have. Halves and outside backs for Flegg and Cup is where our priorities should be. The Tony Pellow signing on a Cup deal makes sense and is worth a shot (don't know how high is ceiling is, but definitely need more in our Cup team backline). Hooker and middles seem stocked.
 
Dino said:
Probably resting them, no need to put their bodies though it every week when they are already playing up a couple years
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I get that logic, particularly as the SG Ball season started so early. But I would of thought a few games of Flegg to get some consistency first before resting them. Particularly after a successful debut last week.

Unless of course, they do have niggling injuries this week and are playing it safe, which is fair enough.
 
tunks said:
Ahem, we signed Papalili, Bateman. We lost Kautoga and O'Kane. That's footy, you can't have it both ways.
The jump in standard from Matt's to Ball to Flegg to Cup to NRL gets steeper with each step. More don't make the final step than you realise. Statistically, mostfall away after Ball. Flegg to Cup really sorts the men from the boys, so to speak.
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Kautoga is lazy and has a poor attitude, O’Kane is far too soft for a man of his size, speed and talent.
This is a totally different scenario as we have signed a number 9 for Flegg in Ghantous who looks to be a quality young player who is lightning fast off the mark, but hoping it doesn’t block the development of an up and coming star in Da Silva.
The Manaia Cherrington signing for KOE Cup is more puzzling. We have Rua as the starting 9, Jake Simpkin who will be pushed back to this grade on occasions, Jamie Lawler who has been very solid off the bench and being an ex halfback gives us versatility and also James Valevatu who was very good in his couple of games before getting injured. Signing a 27y.o Cherrington does not make us any better, so not sure why he has been signed for the remainder of this 2023 season ?
 
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Vicious said:
Kautoga is lazy and has a poor attitude, O’Kane is far too soft for a man of his size, speed and talent.
This is a totally different scenario as we have signed a number 9 for Flegg in Ghantous who looks to be a quality young player who is lightning fast off the mark, but hoping it doesn’t block the development of an up and coming star in Da Silva.
The Manaia Cherrington signing for KOE Cup is more puzzling. We have Rua as the starting 9, Jake Simpkin who will be pushed back to this grade on occasions, Jamie Lawler who has been very solid off the bench and being an ex halfback gives us versatility and also James Valevatu who was very good in his couple of games before getting injured. Signing a 27y.o Cherrington does not make us any better, so not sure why he has been signed for the remainder of this 2023 season ?
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Time will tell with the 2 not here.
I get your point. They have stock piled an awful lot of good hookers. Da Silver is a star, no doubt, but that Doggies hooker is a star too, just an older version.
 
tunks said:
Maybe.
Do you remember the story of when JAC first arrived in Melbourne? Bellamy sat him down to watch replays of his try celebrations which were all about him and not the team. It's a little thing, but lots of little things are what a good culture is about.
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Yeah, Bellamy is a class act.
Utmost professionalism...

I see where he's coming from - but I also think the young lads should enjoy what they're doing. Too quickly things in life become serious and lose their shine.

Everything becomes a chore.
I think that's what we're seeing from Luke Brooks - no enjoyment in what he does and it reflects each game.
 
Demps said:
Yeah, Bellamy is a class act.
Utmost professionalism...

I see where he's coming from - but I also think the young lads should enjoy what they're doing. Too quickly things in life become serious and lose their shine.

Everything becomes a chore.
I think that's what we're seeing from Luke Brooks - no enjoyment in what he does and it reflects each game.
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Excitement and passion is what’s currently lacking within our NRL team environment, nothing wrong with Da Silvia’s try celebration, we need more of it.
 
balmain boy said:
Very bizarre stuff. And signing two hookers in the last week, when da Silva is just coming into grade, Rua is fit again, as is Tannous. Why would we sign this Ghantous for Flegg? And bring back Cherrington makes a little more sense so we don't rush the kids but still it's all very erratic
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I hope with all these hooker signings there is plan try give Tannous a chance in the halves. He was a quality 6 at schoolboy level. From what I’ve seen he’s never played outside of hooked at WT.
 
weststigerman said:
I hope with all these hooker signings there is plan try give Tannous a chance in the halves. He was a quality 6 at schoolboy level. From what I’ve seen he’s never played outside of hooked at WT.
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Played hooker from the bench for Lebanon in the world cup.

He's bulked up a fair bit too.
 
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