Kelma Tuilagi

@truetiger said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445211) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445201) said:
How was this bloke not given a chance earlier?

One word for you mate....Development....

Not really.

If you had been watching reserve grade you'd know he's been a standout since week 1 in the KOE yet had to watch Tuki , Amone, and Chee Kam get a run.
It's a recurring lack of ability to recognise talent in players that allows him to be overlooked while the coaches favourites like Mbye are untouchable.
 
@dwight-schrute said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445361) said:
@truetiger said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445211) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445201) said:
How was this bloke not given a chance earlier?

One word for you mate....Development....

Not really.

If you had been watching reserve grade you'd know he's been a standout since week 1 in the KOE yet had to watch Tuki , Amone, and Chee Kam get a run.
It's a recurring lack of ability to recognise talent in players that allows him to be overlooked while the coaches favourites like Mbye are untouchable.

Mate,Cini was killing it in KOE cup as well and everybody was calling on him to get a game...his debut was good the next game he cracked under pressure but is showing signs he can step up,his development is ongoing...
Kelma has great potential as well,but Madge knows best as far as his development goes,he played well last night but its a different level to play that way consistently in the NRL..
For all the Mbye haters and others in the team,Madge has to use the experienced players the best he can...if you put all the young guys in the starting team at once,you would see them slaughtered by the big guns of the comp..
Madge will get these young guys playing consistent competative footy in due time....and thats what it takes TIME....
 
@truetiger said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445362) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445361) said:
@truetiger said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445211) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445201) said:
How was this bloke not given a chance earlier?

One word for you mate....Development....

Not really.

If you had been watching reserve grade you'd know he's been a standout since week 1 in the KOE yet had to watch Tuki , Amone, and Chee Kam get a run.
It's a recurring lack of ability to recognise talent in players that allows him to be overlooked while the coaches favourites like Mbye are untouchable.

Mate,Cini was killing it in KOE cup as well and everybody was calling on him to get a game...his debut was good the next game he cracked under pressure but is showing signs he can step up,his development is ongoing...
Kelma has great potential as well,but Madge knows best as far as his development goes,he played well last night but its a different level to play that way consistently in the NRL..
For all the Mbye haters and others in the team,Madge has to use the experienced players the best he can...if you put all the young guys in the starting team at once,you would see them slaughtered by the big guns of the comp..
Madge will get these young guys playing consistent competative footy in due time....and thats what it takes TIME....

So an obviously ready made NRL player like Tuilagi needs to be "developed", yet a raw as raw Tuki was ready?
Give me a break from the buzzwords that offer an excuse for poor judgement from those paid to know better.
Experienced players that offer 13 runs for 49 metres at fullback help the "development" of nothing. They drag down the team.
Cini was a funny example for you to use. He was thrown in in an unfamiliar position. He's been really good at fullback in KOE yet Madge managed to shatter his confidence by throwing him to the wolves on the wing.
Cini should be there at fullback where he looked very comfortable when given a limited run last week.
 
@dwight-schrute said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445363) said:
@truetiger said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445362) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445361) said:
@truetiger said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445211) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445201) said:
How was this bloke not given a chance earlier?

One word for you mate....Development....

Not really.

If you had been watching reserve grade you'd know he's been a standout since week 1 in the KOE yet had to watch Tuki , Amone, and Chee Kam get a run.
It's a recurring lack of ability to recognise talent in players that allows him to be overlooked while the coaches favourites like Mbye are untouchable.

Mate,Cini was killing it in KOE cup as well and everybody was calling on him to get a game...his debut was good the next game he cracked under pressure but is showing signs he can step up,his development is ongoing...
Kelma has great potential as well,but Madge knows best as far as his development goes,he played well last night but its a different level to play that way consistently in the NRL..
For all the Mbye haters and others in the team,Madge has to use the experienced players the best he can...if you put all the young guys in the starting team at once,you would see them slaughtered by the big guns of the comp..
Madge will get these young guys playing consistent competative footy in due time....and thats what it takes TIME....

So an obviously ready made NRL player like Tuilagi needs to be "developed", yet a raw as raw Tuki was ready?
Give me a break from the buzzwords that offer an excuse for poor judgement from those paid to know better.
Experienced players that offer 13 runs for 49 metres at fullback help the "development" of nothing. They drag down the team.
Cini was a funny example for you to use. He was thrown in in an unfamiliar position. He's been really good at fullback in KOE yet Madge managed to shatter his confidence by throwing him to the wolves on the wing.
Cini should be there at fullback where he looked very comfortable when given a limited run last week.

Obviously you know more than I do ....you have your opinion and I have mine.....email Madge with your knowledge...I made an honest comparison and you tell me I used FUNNY examples...I was making a comparison from KOE cup to NRL...but as I said you obviously know better...
 
@truetiger said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445364) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445363) said:
@truetiger said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445362) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445361) said:
@truetiger said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445211) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445201) said:
How was this bloke not given a chance earlier?

One word for you mate....Development....

Not really.

If you had been watching reserve grade you'd know he's been a standout since week 1 in the KOE yet had to watch Tuki , Amone, and Chee Kam get a run.
It's a recurring lack of ability to recognise talent in players that allows him to be overlooked while the coaches favourites like Mbye are untouchable.

Mate,Cini was killing it in KOE cup as well and everybody was calling on him to get a game...his debut was good the next game he cracked under pressure but is showing signs he can step up,his development is ongoing...
Kelma has great potential as well,but Madge knows best as far as his development goes,he played well last night but its a different level to play that way consistently in the NRL..
For all the Mbye haters and others in the team,Madge has to use the experienced players the best he can...if you put all the young guys in the starting team at once,you would see them slaughtered by the big guns of the comp..
Madge will get these young guys playing consistent competative footy in due time....and thats what it takes TIME....

So an obviously ready made NRL player like Tuilagi needs to be "developed", yet a raw as raw Tuki was ready?
Give me a break from the buzzwords that offer an excuse for poor judgement from those paid to know better.
Experienced players that offer 13 runs for 49 metres at fullback help the "development" of nothing. They drag down the team.
Cini was a funny example for you to use. He was thrown in in an unfamiliar position. He's been really good at fullback in KOE yet Madge managed to shatter his confidence by throwing him to the wolves on the wing.
Cini should be there at fullback where he looked very comfortable when given a limited run last week.

Obviously you know more than I do ....you have your opinion and I have mine.....email Madge with your knowledge...I made an honest comparison and you tell me I used FUNNY examples...I was making a comparison from KOE cup to NRL...but as I said you obviously know better...

It's good to have self awareness.
 
I'm with you @Dwight-Schrute

Was a bunch of us asking for him to debut, even forum teenager @TheDaBoss saw the talent and was keen, if I recall correctly...

If you're good enough, you're ready.
This guy came to us, developed and ready to roll...

A few strange moves by Madge over the year which have proved themselves to be massive overlook moments...
 
@truetiger said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445362) said:
Madge will get these young guys playing consistent competative footy in due time…and thats what it takes TIME…

They need time. I think Talau is another example. He has some talent but he just hasn't been ready for consistent first grade footy.

Cini is another one. Simpkin & Simpkins are other examples.
 
Going well. Still think he looks more like an edge forward. When he runs a bit wider he looks really good. Even in both trials he made a LB when he ran on the edge.
 
Easy to tell he came from a good system, he plays like a typical Melbourne back rower, runs nice lines and defends really well

Carved up reserves all year and no surprise he's taken his opportunity in first grade by the scruff of the neck. Definitely one to keep a hold of, plays hard and direct
 
@dwight-schrute said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445363) said:
@truetiger said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445362) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445361) said:
@truetiger said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445211) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445201) said:
How was this bloke not given a chance earlier?

One word for you mate....Development....

Not really.

If you had been watching reserve grade you'd know he's been a standout since week 1 in the KOE yet had to watch Tuki , Amone, and Chee Kam get a run.
It's a recurring lack of ability to recognise talent in players that allows him to be overlooked while the coaches favourites like Mbye are untouchable.

Mate,Cini was killing it in KOE cup as well and everybody was calling on him to get a game...his debut was good the next game he cracked under pressure but is showing signs he can step up,his development is ongoing...
Kelma has great potential as well,but Madge knows best as far as his development goes,he played well last night but its a different level to play that way consistently in the NRL..
For all the Mbye haters and others in the team,Madge has to use the experienced players the best he can...if you put all the young guys in the starting team at once,you would see them slaughtered by the big guns of the comp..
Madge will get these young guys playing consistent competative footy in due time....and thats what it takes TIME....

So an obviously ready made NRL player like Tuilagi needs to be "developed", yet a raw as raw Tuki was ready?
Give me a break from the buzzwords that offer an excuse for poor judgement from those paid to know better.
Experienced players that offer 13 runs for 49 metres at fullback help the "development" of nothing. They drag down the team.
Cini was a funny example for you to use. He was thrown in in an unfamiliar position. He's been really good at fullback in KOE yet Madge managed to shatter his confidence by throwing him to the wolves on the wing.
Cini should be there at fullback where he looked very comfortable when given a limited run last week.

Too risky mate.
 
@willow said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445064) said:
Looking good and developing nicely. At least there are some bright spots with some of the younger talent signed up - we need to land a superstar of some description, but there's some signs for the future which look promising.

I think D.Laurie could be a star.
 
@tony-soprano said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445443) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445363) said:
@truetiger said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445362) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445361) said:
@truetiger said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445211) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445201) said:
How was this bloke not given a chance earlier?

One word for you mate....Development....

Not really.

If you had been watching reserve grade you'd know he's been a standout since week 1 in the KOE yet had to watch Tuki , Amone, and Chee Kam get a run.
It's a recurring lack of ability to recognise talent in players that allows him to be overlooked while the coaches favourites like Mbye are untouchable.

Mate,Cini was killing it in KOE cup as well and everybody was calling on him to get a game...his debut was good the next game he cracked under pressure but is showing signs he can step up,his development is ongoing...
Kelma has great potential as well,but Madge knows best as far as his development goes,he played well last night but its a different level to play that way consistently in the NRL..
For all the Mbye haters and others in the team,Madge has to use the experienced players the best he can...if you put all the young guys in the starting team at once,you would see them slaughtered by the big guns of the comp..
Madge will get these young guys playing consistent competative footy in due time....and thats what it takes TIME....

So an obviously ready made NRL player like Tuilagi needs to be "developed", yet a raw as raw Tuki was ready?
Give me a break from the buzzwords that offer an excuse for poor judgement from those paid to know better.
Experienced players that offer 13 runs for 49 metres at fullback help the "development" of nothing. They drag down the team.
Cini was a funny example for you to use. He was thrown in in an unfamiliar position. He's been really good at fullback in KOE yet Madge managed to shatter his confidence by throwing him to the wolves on the wing.
Cini should be there at fullback where he looked very comfortable when given a limited run last week.

Too risky mate.

It is a tad annoying watching a player like tuilagi have to wait so long when you can very clearly tell he is more advanced.
 
@depressed said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445553) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445443) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445363) said:
@truetiger said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445362) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445361) said:
@truetiger said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445211) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445201) said:
How was this bloke not given a chance earlier?

One word for you mate....Development....

Not really.

If you had been watching reserve grade you'd know he's been a standout since week 1 in the KOE yet had to watch Tuki , Amone, and Chee Kam get a run.
It's a recurring lack of ability to recognise talent in players that allows him to be overlooked while the coaches favourites like Mbye are untouchable.

Mate,Cini was killing it in KOE cup as well and everybody was calling on him to get a game...his debut was good the next game he cracked under pressure but is showing signs he can step up,his development is ongoing...
Kelma has great potential as well,but Madge knows best as far as his development goes,he played well last night but its a different level to play that way consistently in the NRL..
For all the Mbye haters and others in the team,Madge has to use the experienced players the best he can...if you put all the young guys in the starting team at once,you would see them slaughtered by the big guns of the comp..
Madge will get these young guys playing consistent competative footy in due time....and thats what it takes TIME....

So an obviously ready made NRL player like Tuilagi needs to be "developed", yet a raw as raw Tuki was ready?
Give me a break from the buzzwords that offer an excuse for poor judgement from those paid to know better.
Experienced players that offer 13 runs for 49 metres at fullback help the "development" of nothing. They drag down the team.
Cini was a funny example for you to use. He was thrown in in an unfamiliar position. He's been really good at fullback in KOE yet Madge managed to shatter his confidence by throwing him to the wolves on the wing.
Cini should be there at fullback where he looked very comfortable when given a limited run last week.

Too risky mate.

It is a tad annoying watching a player like tuilagi have to wait so long when you can very clearly tell he is more advanced.

Was talking about cini although happy for madge to let them develop before throwing them into nrl.
 
@tony-soprano said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445590) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445562) said:
@tigerpower said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445359) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Kelma Tuilagi](/post/1445351) said:
He's ahead of Amone in the pecking order.

Amone is an imposter.

Who was he posing as in your opinion?

A first grader

His leg speed and drive in reserves was amazing. When we played him in 1st grade, he became a cat. So he was posing as a 1st grader and got found out.
 

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