Kyle Lovett gone?

Good enough for me.

SACK HIM.

I dont care what others think or what other 'young people' do. Pay for him to go counselling, I accept that, but then give him a cabcharge card for his trip to centrelink.
 
"He comes before you as a person who is extremely remorseful."

Remorseful that he was using the drug, or that he got caught? Because judging by the following statement it sounds like it isn't his first time using cocaine.

Police also found a blue and white MDMA capsule on the road under the car, but Lovett said "I don't touch that stuff."
 
The club is a million to one to sack him. It would be a very bad look to be sacking a first offender on what these days is described as a minor offence. With the clubs connections with beyond blue and all the community work they do it just would not sit well.

Okay behind the scenes they might get him to rejig his contract especially if he is facing a 10 game ban or more, but they will not sack him
 
@supercoach said:
The club is a million to one to sack him. It would be a very bad look to be sacking a first offender on what these days is described as a minor offence. With the clubs connections with beyond blue and all the community work they do it just would not sit well.

Okay behind the scenes they might get him to rejig his contract especially if he is facing a 10 game ban or more, but they will not sack him

Sacking lovett would be a better look and a smarter move, we ditch a lesser player and come out better $$$ wise

No brainer
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
I don't think Grant will be re-signed. I really think its time for Ava to stand up and really push for a starting spot. Really looking forward to seeing some more of JJ.

The biggest problem with Ava, Grant andSue is that they are so patchy throughout the season.
Good for a couple of games then clock off for the next couple.
They've played a fair fewFirst Grade games by now and it seems to be the same pattern every season.

I was surprised that we bought Grant , but changed my mind about him after his first few games.
By the time we hit the halfway point I gone back to my first opinion.
I hope someone out of the lower grades can force his way in this season
 
@goldcoast tiger said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
I don't think Grant will be re-signed. I really think its time for Ava to stand up and really push for a starting spot. Really looking forward to seeing some more of JJ.

The biggest problem with Ava, Grant andSue is that they are so patchy throughout the season.
Good for a couple of games then clock off for the next couple.
They've played a fair fewFirst Grade games by now and it seems to be the same pattern every season.

I was surprised that we bought Grant , but changed my mind about him after his first few games.
By the time we hit the halfway point I gone back to my first opinion.
I hope someone out of the lower grades can force his way in this season

Great post GCT. I will be hoping JJ and our other young front rowers put pressure on Sue and Tim Grant.
 
If Lovett is not sacked the club culture of the club HAS NOT changed ..since the completion of the competition last year the club has been reinforcing the fact that the culture of the Weststigers has changed ..well let's see!
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
I don't think Grant will be re-signed. I really think its time for Ava to stand up and really push for a starting spot. Really looking forward to seeing some more of JJ.

The biggest problem with Ava, Grant andSue is that they are so patchy throughout the season.
Good for a couple of games then clock off for the next couple.
They've played a fair fewFirst Grade games by now and it seems to be the same pattern every season.

I was surprised that we bought Grant , but changed my mind about him after his first few games.
By the time we hit the halfway point I gone back to my first opinion.
I hope someone out of the lower grades can force his way in this season

Great post GCT. I will be hoping JJ and our other young front rowers put pressure on Sue and Tim Grant.

Hope they give young Jordan grant a go, the boy is a monster and has a good engine.
 
@bp tiger said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
I don't think Grant will be re-signed. I really think its time for Ava to stand up and really push for a starting spot. Really looking forward to seeing some more of JJ.

The biggest problem with Ava, Grant andSue is that they are so patchy throughout the season.
Good for a couple of games then clock off for the next couple.
They've played a fair fewFirst Grade games by now and it seems to be the same pattern every season.

I was surprised that we bought Grant , but changed my mind about him after his first few games.
By the time we hit the halfway point I gone back to my first opinion.
I hope someone out of the lower grades can force his way in this season

Great post GCT. I will be hoping JJ and our other young front rowers put pressure on Sue and Tim Grant.

Hope they give young Jordan grant a go, the boy is a monster and has a good engine.

Good leg speed as well - Would love to see him at Lock.
 
Has to be sacked immediately can't take drugs when you. Cant play and are on an inflated contract.
 
Either way, you'd assume he'll be suspended by the NRL for 8-12 weeks, which makes our bench a little clearer. If we're traveling well when he gets back he might not even get a start. What a dumb thing to do.
 
The other question that comes to mind is who else was with him.. powder on the passenger seat and waiting for someone.. we keep getting told how tight the group is so maybe some of his tiger mates were also involved but slipped away
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
Either way, you'd assume he'll be suspended by the NRL for 8-12 weeks, which makes our bench a little clearer. If we're traveling well when he gets back he might not even get a start. What a dumb thing to do.

That's a 2nd offence punishment
 
@Snake said:
If Lovett is not sacked the club culture of the club HAS NOT changed ..since the completion of the competition last year the club has been reinforcing the fact that the culture of the Weststigers has changed ..well let's see!

In no way do I condone his actions but who hasn't as a young person has not made a mistake. Had a beer or two too many and drove home, had a puff on the magic herbs.

Look at the other players in the comp who are far worse, rapists, wife beaters, drunk drivers and dealers. Show some compassion and try not to destroy his life. Hell just compare what he did to what one of the "immortals" was like.
 
@Sabre said:
"He comes before you as a person who is extremely remorseful."

Remorseful that he was using the drug, or that he got caught? Because judging by the following statement it sounds like it isn't his first time using cocaine.

Police also found a blue and white MDMA capsule on the road under the car, but Lovett said "I don't touch that stuff."

As we all know, remorseful for the latter. Smart move with the early plea. While he might see out the season with the Tigers I'll be stunned if he's here next year.
 
Can't we do a sharks and sack him and offer him a new contract on minimum wage?
Whether he takes it or not , we end up ahead.
 
Sarge is such an honest fellow, cops ask if he has any nose candy in his reg grundies and he says "yeah, TBH I do".

How can you sack such an honest young fellow?
 
@ricksen said:
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/wests-tigers/wests-tigers-kyle-lovett-pleads-guilty-to-having-cocaine-in-his-underpants-20170201-gu2y6r.html

Kyle Lovett's night on the town started at The Ivy nightclub, and ended in an alley being strip-searched by police.
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Officers questioned the Wests Tigers forward while he was sitting at the wheel of a black Mercedes Benz near The Star casino, in Pyrmont, about 1.20am on December 23.
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Drug offence: Kyle Lovett has avoided a conviction for having a small amount of cocaine.
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Police pulled him over in an area known to be used for drug deals, and noticed he was "sweating profusely" and clenching his jaw, according to a statement of facts before Downing Centre Local Court.
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They found white powder in the driver's seat and footwell, and the passenger's side footwell, before taking Lovett into an alcove to strip search him.
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When asked if he had any drugs in his underwear, he said: "I'll be honest with you, I do."
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Officers found a small bag of cocaine in his underpants, and charged him with possessing about 0.39 grams of the drug.
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Police also found a blue and white MDMA capsule on the road under the car, but Lovett said "I don't touch that stuff."
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He had a wad of cash on him, which he said was casino winnings.
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Lovett, 23, appeared in court on Wednesday and pleaded guilty.
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His lawyer, George Elias, told magistrate Janet Wahlquist​ it was Lovett's first offence, and he accepted full responsibility for his actions.
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"I'd ask you to give him one chance," Mr Elias said.
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"He comes before you as a person who is extremely remorseful."
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Mr Elias said Lovett had to face the NRL integrity unit, and he didn't know what the future held for his career.
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Ms Wahlquist said she took into account Lovett's youth, his clean criminal history, his remorse, and his early guilty plea.
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She did not record a conviction, and handed down a six-month good behaviour bond.
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The magistrate said everyone was treated equally in the court system, regardless of their occupation.
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"Usually for young people I'm prepared to give leniency. Young people often experiment and do use a small amount of drugs.
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"You should know that it's a danger, as it's quite commonly said, there's no quality control.
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"I'm prepared to give you the benefit of leniency, it was a small quantity … you have an otherwise bright future."
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Lovett is contracted with the Tigers until the end of 2017, but it was rumoured the club was attempting to force him out in a bid to ease salary-cap pressure.
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He was supported by his parents and a team welfare officer in court, and thanked the magistrate as he left the courtroom.

Not a good look for the guy or the club . I always assumed he was clean cut type of guy so this surprised me a bit. Hopefully our other stars are not doing the same things but I think this would be naive to think.
 
@Lidcombe Magpie said:
@Snake said:
If Lovett is not sacked the club culture of the club HAS NOT changed ..since the completion of the competition last year the club has been reinforcing the fact that the culture of the Weststigers has changed ..well let's see!

In no way do I condone his actions but who hasn't as a young person has not made a mistake. Had a beer or two too many and drove home, had a puff on the magic herbs.

Look at the other players in the comp who are far worse, rapists, wife beaters, drunk drivers and dealers. Show some compassion and try not to destroy his life. Hell just compare what he did to what one of the "immortals" was like.

I think your spot on Magpie .

I'm by far Lovett's biggest supporter on the field but cut the guy some slack and give the young Man a chance to show that his made a big mistake and won't happen again .
I'm sure if a player like Tedesco was caught everyone will be saying " 1st offence give him another shot his to valuable to get rid off and then what ? another Club picks him up after the suspension and we loose ".
I bet the tune would be different in this instance.

Yeah many will say this is a perfect opportunity to give ourselves room with the Cap but i believe this will do massive damage to the young Man Mentally as no other Club will go near him and potentially wreck all the hard work his put in cause of the one mistake his made , maybe this is not the 1st time that his been on the white stuff but if he can't learn from this and is caught again ? instant Contract tear up.

just my Opinion .
 
@batboy said:
@bp tiger said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
Great post GCT. I will be hoping JJ and our other young front rowers put pressure on Sue and Tim Grant.

Hope they give young Jordan grant a go, the boy is a monster and has a good engine.

Good leg speed as well - Would love to see him at Lock.

I feel JJ Felise will end up at #13 with how the game is evolving, but I like Jordan Grant also. He seems to have the same temperament as Kane Evans and could be effective from the bench if given a chance!

Getting back to Kyle though… I'd like to see Kyle become more aggressive. This is an area of his game that we have not seen at NRL Level, which has obviously been coached out of him. At some stage he needs to forge his own career, and I'm confident Kyle has the guile to become a better NRL Player whether at the Tigers or somewhere else.
 
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