Tucker
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All our problems arise when we attempt to transition that developed talent into the top grade.As I wrote previously, the much vaunted Bulldog's development system is working well at the WTs.
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All our problems arise when we attempt to transition that developed talent into the top grade.As I wrote previously, the much vaunted Bulldog's development system is working well at the WTs.
Yes he admits to that on the podcast. I think Kempy was referring to some of the stuff that happened in 24.It was as soon as Sheens was sacked that he started asking to be released.
Just did a background search on Luke Vella because I've never really heard of him...
He was a Bulldogs junior that got a shoulder injury and then took over as Jersey Fleg coach in 2020, held this position until 2023, the year the team won the comp.
And in 2024 he was promoted to NRL assistant coach, transitional coach.
Not a teacher at Westfield's Sports High, but a coach...
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Looks a bit like Galvin.
Probably has been a good mentor for him and others as he's seen how hard it is and how it can all go away, just as quickly.
Sigh, this is the feeling that creeps into the back of your mind doesn't it with the size of our catchment just ready for Moses to take delight in cherry picking the best talent.Maybe we should take a break from the NRL competition and just become a talent factory. Clubs can put their orders in and for an exhorbitant figure, we will produce first grade ready talent that hasnt been spoiled by actually playing for our top level team?
Cutom trained and to specifications.
"You want a fullback who is always on the ball, loves competing, is fast and not overawed? Great we have one starting Ball next year. He'll be ready for the commencement of season 2028".
Interesting... I'd have no mercy, especially after being on the bottom ourselves. I can't imagine any scenario where I'd ever feel sorry for Bulldogs or Eels clubs.The CEO of a strong club using his powerful media position to undermine contracts at the wooden spoon club - no I wouldn't support it no matter who he worked for. Disgraceful.
The problem is demand for our young talent. It is a credit to WTs we can identify and retain it until the NRL. The downside is there are powerful clubs deprived of talent who want it.All our problems arise when we attempt to transition that developed talent into the top grade.
Easy in hindsight eh?At the end of the day if this was done behind closed doors or handled in a more professional business manner we would not end up looking the poor old Tigers/ media whipping boys.
Not wise to get offside with Gus.Yep, that what he did and rugby league identities are applauding him for it.
No doubt he's manipulating as much as he can. This is the first time it's came off against WT.It’s more about Gus having two responsibilities bulldogs and nine and to do one job he lies at the other.
This has a lot more to do with Galvin than it does Moses. If it’s was Moses pulling the strings he’d be signing with Parra. He might be a kid but he is firm in his decisions.Sigh, this is the feeling that creeps into the back of your mind doesn't it with the size of our catchment just ready for Moses to take delight in cherry picking the best talent.
There would be some pain, but we should at seasons end weed this tick out of our production line of youngsters otherwise it will keep happening, history proves it
Good points but I don't feel comfortable with Moses signing up our juniors he has a proven record of being shady, not to be trusted.This has a lot more to do with Galvin than it does Moses. If it’s was Moses pulling the strings he’d be signing with Parra. He might be a kid but he is firm in his decisions.
-Start of 23 season despite signing on as a Top 30 player 6 months earlier, He refused to integrate into the WT system to play Flegg and later cup instead he requested he focuses on School Boy footy so he can win a premiership there.
-End of that season as he was on a high from schoolboy footy he requests a release from his WT playing contract as the team looks like losers.
(Took a fair bit of negotiation with Richo and Benji to get him back on side).
Then there was the 2024 season and after hitting 8 loses on the trot and a bad hand he requests a release again.
And now we are here in 2025 I think we are all across what happened this year.
What's our KOE gonna go mate? LolBe great if he started in second grade, as the Magpies play Canterbury in a couple of weeks 👍
Great post, wd.This has a lot more to do with Galvin than it does Moses. If it’s was Moses pulling the strings he’d be signing with Parra. He might be a kid but he is firm in his decisions.
-Start of 23 season despite signing on as a Top 30 player 6 months earlier, He refused to integrate into the WT system to play Flegg and later cup instead he requested he focuses on School Boy footy so he can win a premiership there.
-End of that season as he was on a high from schoolboy footy he requests a release from his WT playing contract as the team looks like losers.
(Took a fair bit of negotiation with Richo and Benji to get him back on side).
Then there was the 2024 season and after hitting 8 loses on the trot and a bad hand he requests a release again.
And now we are here in 2025 I think we are all across what happened this year.
Ciraldo had done his time as an assistant building a team up and was looking to cash in on all that effort. He likely so the job here as being too hard as the system was a mismanaged pile of dogshit and noticing another job was on offer...well the choice was easy.
Benji was niaive and maybe ignorant as well. His ego clouded his judgement.
The reult? CC is pushing for a premiership after playing finals last year and Benji is pushing to avoid his third spoon on the trot.
We won this situation.No doubt he's manipulating as much as he can. This is the first time it's came off against WT.
Example 1 - when the Fainu's were being released from Manly, Gus decided to visit Manese in prison and "check on his welfare". We already had Sione so he lost out there.
Example 2 - when Stefano was potentially leaving he was quoted saying WT should be careful how much the offer him - much the same as what said about Galvin. Gus couldn't compete with Bellamy so lost out again.
The point being good guys finish last. I'm tired of seeing my club get manipulated. We need to get better at winning these situations.
All our problems arise when we attempt to transition that developed talent into the top grade.
We haven't let him walk yetJust a side note , Iam surprised we let Galvin walk now , with latu still injured, would we not have told him he can leave before June 30 but we need u till latu is fit to return , if I was in charge I would have covered that before letting him go , just my though , and I know it’s good just to get rid of the little pedal
Is it hindsight though?Easy in hindsight eh?
Seems obvious doesn't it?Am I missing something here?
Don’t managers get paid as a percentage of their players contract?
If so, Moses (who if you believe most on this forum) has instigated this whole sorry saga, so he himself, could get less money 🤔
Doesn’t the way it’s played out, now suggest that the manager was just doing what the player requested him to do?
As I said at the start - Am I missing something here? 🤷♂️