Lack of signings

[tigerbalm]

LM snubbing the club for substantially less money speaks of west’s failing as an organization rather than any shortcoming of LM.

No it doesn't. He might just be a muppet. Also, hasn't happened yet.

Sigh. Ok, Latrells a muppet.

 

[Telltails]

In my opinion there is far to much condemnation of our recruiting staff and coach so far this off season..we must consider all the calamity that we have endured in the last few years to take into perspective where we are now,all the shouting about not signing top marquee players is a bit over the top when we have to sort the fundamental mistakes others have made,Reynolds,Matalino,Matto for eg,big money contracts,most of the time spent on the sidelines or left for greener pastures,the RF affair etc..
Maybe if we stop and think for a minute that the staff are constantly trying to do the right thing by the rules and what money they have but not to make the same mistake as others have previously.No mean feat since there was a huge mess to cleanup.
Im not worrying to much atm because Iam relying on the core people within the club to finally make the right decisions in regards to players and funds available.


Funds is not the problem not making finals for 8 straight years is ,even if some on this forum keep shooting me down.If LM signs for south’s for 400k as reported what does that say about the west’s tigers

It says the salary cap should be abolished because it's not working.

You abolish the cap and you remove the last institution keeping the Tigers semi-competitive.

I don't know how anyone, Balmain or Magpies origin, can forget how uncompetitive our clubs were for so many seasons.

In the 90s as a Tigers fan, I was just happy if we didn't get belted every week. Never did I entertain notions of playing finals football. It was like being an Aston Villa fan in the EPL - you were just happy to be part of the top-flight, even though you didn't win a thing.

Nowadays people actually expect Tigers to make the finals, get upset when we don't. It's only the salary cap that makes this possible.

Remove the cap and watch the new EPL of the NRL - the Top 4 or 5 that dominate every single season, with huge wallets. Nobody will compete with Brisbane if the cap is removed!

Dont you think the salary cap in some ways protects teams like the Roosters and Brisbane maintain a position of strength because it allows them to retain ridiculously strong squads at a reduced cost. There is no way they could retain that many quality/ elite players in an open market. It will never be like the EPL there is not enough money in the game.

 

[happy_tiger]

DRAFT please

 

[colinbh]

8 years without a Semi Final appearance is disgraceful and unjustifiable. I've been a season ticket holder for 4 years, but this is the first season that I'm struggling for motivation. It seems like we back a horse in the Melbourne Cup that you know cannot win.

Only four years?

 

[innsaneink]

That being said, I can also understand that the whole LM circus has left some, if not many, feeling deflated in that we’re not an attractive proposition for elite players even when we have significantly better money to offer than other clubs.
The problem is that Wests fans are tired of waiting and that is very understandable, so lack of patience shadows a lot of these posts about our roster being perceived as weaker.

I agree - but it's based only on the actions of a single player, who doesn't have a good reputation anyway.

Latrell was like a fast-food opportunity that seems to have passed us by, a "quick fix" for some disgruntled fans. But I question whether 2019 Tigers, minus Matto and Marsters, plus Latrell, would be a significantly stronger finals threat for 2020? Latrell addresses our strike power concerns **but does nothing at all for** pace, consistency, **hooker (as you note) or depth issues in the backs.**

Maybe not immediately but recruiting a top line player will help recruit other top liners

 

[jirskyr]

Dont you think the salary cap in some ways protects teams like the Roosters and Brisbane maintain a position of strength because it allows them to retain ridiculously strong squads at a reduced cost. There is no way they could retain that many quality/ elite players in an open market. It will never be like the EPL there is not enough money in the game

No, not at all. Whilst Broncos do have a natural advantage as a one-team town, that advantage would exist with or without a salary cap, and as a large and continuously profitable club, they can easily afford to out-spend most of the competition.

Roosters, well we'd find out for sure if they are just good with their books or whether there was secret support, that could come out of the woodwork were their backing no longer illegal.

So a salary cap does restrain spending, by definition, but the more profitable clubs would totally outspend the opposition if they could.

It would be exactly like the EPL, except with less total money. That comp is rife with the financial haves and have nots, as would a cap-free NRL be.

 

[jirskyr]

That being said, I can also understand that the whole LM circus has left some, if not many, feeling deflated in that we’re not an attractive proposition for elite players even when we have significantly better money to offer than other clubs.
The problem is that Wests fans are tired of waiting and that is very understandable, so lack of patience shadows a lot of these posts about our roster being perceived as weaker.

I agree - but it's based only on the actions of a single player, who doesn't have a good reputation anyway.

Latrell was like a fast-food opportunity that seems to have passed us by, a "quick fix" for some disgruntled fans. But I question whether 2019 Tigers, minus Matto and Marsters, plus Latrell, would be a significantly stronger finals threat for 2020? Latrell addresses our strike power concerns **but does nothing at all for** pace, consistency, **hooker (as you note) or depth issues in the backs.**

Maybe not immediately but recruiting a top line player will help recruit other top liners

How is Mbye working on that front?

I understand what you are saying, there's no harm to further recruitment once you jag a star player. I have no idea if Latrell is that kind of a magnet, or whether he is a class-A pest that other players dislike.

Anyone at Roosters leaping out of their skins to support Latrell at this time?

 

[innsaneink]

No... They'd be towing the company line... But I did hear Jake friend a while back supporting him.

Mbye... Mitchell... He hehe

 

[the_third]

It’s a lack of signings that a forum of a couple hundred (thousand?) with minimal nrl team building experience seem to respect.

I can’t run an nrl club either but this seems better than we’ve had in a while. At least there is a better plan than pay overs, play moneyball or a hail mary

 

[tigerap]

8 years without a Semi Final appearance is disgraceful and unjustifiable. I've been a season ticket holder for 4 years, but this is the first season that I'm struggling for motivation. It seems like we back a horse in the Melbourne Cup that you know cannot win.


Only four years?

3x tix for 8 years, and I’m as optimistic as ever for the future

My motivation for buying season tix 8 years ago was to get first dibs at buying WT semifinal tickets....hasn’t been realised yet, but hold no regrets

 

[tiga4eva]

8 years without a Semi Final appearance is disgraceful and unjustifiable. I've been a season ticket holder for 4 years, but this is the first season that I'm struggling for motivation. It seems like we back a horse in the Melbourne Cup that you know cannot win.


Only four years?

Owned my own business so couldn't get to every home game, but sold it so have been Season ticket holder ever since

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

8 years without a Semi Final appearance is disgraceful and unjustifiable. I've been a season ticket holder for 4 years, but this is the first season that I'm struggling for motivation. It seems like we back a horse in the Melbourne Cup that you know cannot win.


Only four years?

Owned my own business so couldn't get to every home game, but sold it so have been Season ticket holder ever since

Col's better than you because he's been a member longer.

 

[tiga4eva]

8 years without a Semi Final appearance is disgraceful and unjustifiable. I've been a season ticket holder for 4 years, but this is the first season that I'm struggling for motivation. It seems like we back a horse in the Melbourne Cup that you know cannot win.


Only four years?

Owned my own business so couldn't get to every home game, but sold it so have been Season ticket holder ever since

Col's better than you because he's been a member longer.

??? clearly

 

[happy_tiger]

Dont you think the salary cap in some ways protects teams like the Roosters and Brisbane maintain a position of strength because it allows them to retain ridiculously strong squads at a reduced cost. There is no way they could retain that many quality/ elite players in an open market. It will never be like the EPL there is not enough money in the game

No, not at all. Whilst Broncos do have a natural advantage as a one-team town, that advantage would exist with or without a salary cap, and as a large and continuously profitable club, they can easily afford to out-spend most of the competition.

Roosters, well we'd find out for sure if they are just good with their books or whether there was secret support, that could come out of the woodwork were their backing no longer illegal.

So a salary cap does restrain spending, by definition, but the more profitable clubs would totally outspend the opposition if they could.

It would be exactly like the EPL, except with less total money. That comp is rife with the financial haves and have nots, as would a cap-free NRL be.

So even using your logic Brisbane should be all over it like white on rice every season

But it doesn't work that way ...as we see in SOO it can be harder to get things right when you have many options to choose from as Brisbane do (or NSW ) in SOO

Every club has eyes at every junior rep carnival and many times the juniors you think will be huge stars don't make it

Comparing the NRL to the EPL is a bit extreme ..the top sides would have 40 times the budget of the sides recently promoted

I think we were looking at Chelsea's budget and they were 30 million short of a billion dollars from memory about 3-4 years ago

Salary Cap is a better option no question , but is really only beneficial when it is connected to a draft

 

[tigerballs]

That being said, I can also understand that the whole LM circus has left some, if not many, feeling deflated in that we’re not an attractive proposition for elite players even when we have significantly better money to offer than other clubs.
The problem is that Wests fans are tired of waiting and that is very understandable, so lack of patience shadows a lot of these posts about our roster being perceived as weaker.

I agree - but it's based only on the actions of a single player, who doesn't have a good reputation anyway.

Latrell was like a fast-food opportunity that seems to have passed us by, a "quick fix" for some disgruntled fans. But I question whether 2019 Tigers, minus Matto and Marsters, plus Latrell, would be a significantly stronger finals threat for 2020? Latrell addresses our strike power concerns **but does nothing at all for** pace, consistency, **hooker (as you note) or depth issues in the backs.**

Maybe not immediately but recruiting a top line player will help recruit other top liners

Signing Jaryd Hayne didn't work for the Titans

 

[TheDaBoss]

That being said, I can also understand that the whole LM circus has left some, if not many, feeling deflated in that we’re not an attractive proposition for elite players even when we have significantly better money to offer than other clubs.
The problem is that Wests fans are tired of waiting and that is very understandable, so lack of patience shadows a lot of these posts about our roster being perceived as weaker.

I agree - but it's based only on the actions of a single player, who doesn't have a good reputation anyway.

Latrell was like a fast-food opportunity that seems to have passed us by, a "quick fix" for some disgruntled fans. But I question whether 2019 Tigers, minus Matto and Marsters, plus Latrell, would be a significantly stronger finals threat for 2020? Latrell addresses our strike power concerns **but does nothing at all for** pace, consistency, **hooker (as you note) or depth issues in the backs.**

Maybe not immediately but recruiting a top line player will help recruit other top liners

Signing Jaryd Hayne didn't work for the Titans

Didnt work for eels last season either....they missed him dearly ?

 

[mike]

You can’t win. When we have money and spend it quickly and panic buy the club is rightfully criticised. When we have money and take our time and select carefully and perform due diligence the club still gets criticised for lack of signings. Give me a break.

 

[TrueTiger]

I think the club has plenty of money to spend on players,however they are being extremely careful on who they spend that money on as they don't want the embarrassment of previous wasteful purchases to rear its ugly head again....be patient and see what comes out in the next few weeks before kickoff..

 

[TheDaBoss]

We have a smart coach who is spending his money wisely.... and not just throwing it at players who are just fodder

 

[Snake]

We have a smart coach who is spending his money wisely.... and not just throwing it at players who are just fodder

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