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@twentyforty said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097804) said:
@Telltails said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097796) said:
If the NRL allows South's to register a minimum contract deal for LM then the salary cap continues to become the joke of all jokes.

Agree, but there may very well be other reasons why LM has had a significant drop in value? Could Souths argue that he is emotionally unstable and in need of the peer support that only they could provide. .??. Just thinking out aloud?

Not when one club is offering 1mill a season and another is offering half that at the same time.
 
@Telltails said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097805) said:
@twentyforty said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097804) said:
@Telltails said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097796) said:
If the NRL allows South's to register a minimum contract deal for LM then the salary cap continues to become the joke of all jokes.

Agree, but there may very well be other reasons why LM has had a significant drop in value? Could Souths argue that he is emotionally unstable and in need of the peer support that only they could provide. .??. Just thinking out aloud?

Not when one club is offering 1mill a season and another is offering half that at the same time.


LM has stated quite firmly that money is not on top of the list and doesn’t rate as highly as family support. Not sure what is meant by family support? But I would have a guess and say he would like to play with his friends who have a young family too.? If Richard D Natalie can hire a pair of au pairs for under $20k pa then we are not talking about home duties being the issue.
 
@twentyforty said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097806) said:
@Telltails said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097805) said:
@twentyforty said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097804) said:
@Telltails said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097796) said:
If the NRL allows South's to register a minimum contract deal for LM then the salary cap continues to become the joke of all jokes.

Agree, but there may very well be other reasons why LM has had a significant drop in value? Could Souths argue that he is emotionally unstable and in need of the peer support that only they could provide. .??. Just thinking out aloud?

Not when one club is offering 1mill a season and another is offering half that at the same time.


LM has stated quite firmly that money is not on top of the list and doesn’t rate as highly as family support. Not sure what is meant by family support? But I would have a guess and say he would like to play with his friends who have a young family too.? If Richard D Natalie can hire a pair of au pairs for under $20k pa then we are not talking about home duties being the issue.

Actually LM has said he wants to look after his family and doesn't plan to play footy forever. I think he also mentioned it's not solely about money - being in a good environment and winning would obviously be important too, but i highly doubt his advisers are recommending he take a half a million dollars a year salary sacrifice just to play for a historically aboriginal club. He reportedly has a heap of people in his community who already leech of his fame and fortune already.

This whole 400k nonsense comes from one random loon on the souths forum. If Rose isn't hired yet and the old agent is getting sacked, who exactly would be negotiating this contract over the New Year period? It's all fluff
 
@jirskyr said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097803) said:
@Curaeus said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097742) said:
Another twist is the Latrell saga? Interesting article from DT's Dean Ritchie contains this

"There is still a push for Mitchell to join Wests Tigers.

The Tigers aren’t feeling any love from Mitchell but the club still has $4m available to pay Mitchell for the next four years. Wests Tigers officials however want Mitchell to contact them – the club is over chasing Mitchell.

Rose is keen to meet with Souths Sydney and Wests Tigers officials this week."

And just when we all thought the nightmare was over!

If you think about it from the agent's perspective, would you rather take a cut of Latrell to Tigers @ $4M for 4 years, or Latrell to Souths on some reduced Roosters swap deal for 1 season?

Latrell could quite feasibly crash and burn and blow his demand for 2021.

I'm not sure why Latrell would have some particular fixation with playing for Souths rather than Tigers, with all things NOT being equal, and if I was his manager I'd be very strongly recommending he consider or reconsider the Tigers offer for his own wellbeing, if not just the lining of my own pockets.

Latrell to Souths only helps Souths and Bennett, not Latrell. He has to hope he plays well 2020 and Souths agree to / can clear more money to upgrade him. Which is exactly what Roosters were unable / unwilling to do.

Well .... if NRL allows it ..... Souths could easily structure a back ended contract deal which would still deliver Mr Mitchell his $1M.
 
@momo_amp_medo said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097809) said:
@jirskyr said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097803) said:
@Curaeus said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097742) said:
Another twist is the Latrell saga? Interesting article from DT's Dean Ritchie contains this

"There is still a push for Mitchell to join Wests Tigers.

The Tigers aren’t feeling any love from Mitchell but the club still has $4m available to pay Mitchell for the next four years. Wests Tigers officials however want Mitchell to contact them – the club is over chasing Mitchell.

Rose is keen to meet with Souths Sydney and Wests Tigers officials this week."

And just when we all thought the nightmare was over!

If you think about it from the agent's perspective, would you rather take a cut of Latrell to Tigers @ $4M for 4 years, or Latrell to Souths on some reduced Roosters swap deal for 1 season?

Latrell could quite feasibly crash and burn and blow his demand for 2021.

I'm not sure why Latrell would have some particular fixation with playing for Souths rather than Tigers, with all things NOT being equal, and if I was his manager I'd be very strongly recommending he consider or reconsider the Tigers offer for his own wellbeing, if not just the lining of my own pockets.

Latrell to Souths only helps Souths and Bennett, not Latrell. He has to hope he plays well 2020 and Souths agree to / can clear more money to upgrade him. Which is exactly what Roosters were unable / unwilling to do.

Well .... if NRL allows it ..... Souths could easily structure a back ended contract deal which would still deliver Mr Mitchell his $1M.

Didn't the NRL start seriously hosing-down back-ended deals for all the drama it created over previous seasons, with highly-paid unfavoured players skulking around? Getting teams into salary cap drama years down the track.

And are Souths really in a position to pay him some $1.2M for the last 3 years of his contract, in order get him in the door cheap for the first year? It's not as simple as "he'll get his money eventually", because it's a big cashflow strain to backend a contract. Souths might want to make certain decisions in 2022 that might be impinged by a backended commitment to Latrell.

Tigers definitely have the money now, to start the cashflow now. It's a risk for an employee to sign on for the promise of a better deal down the track.
 
I think you have to sign someone for “market value” I remember the eels trying to sign Falau a few years ago for loose change and the nrl wouldn’t allow it.
 
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Latrell Mitchell given leave of absence as one-year deal with Souths looms
Andrew Webster
By Andrew Webster
January 5, 2020 — 4.09pm
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The Roosters have moved to stop the Latrell Mitchell circus from engulfing the start of their premiership defence, giving the 22-year-old centre a "leave of absence" from the first day of training on Monday morning.

"In the lead-up to the club's return to pre-season, Sydney Roosters player Latrell Mitchell has been granted a leave of absence, excusing him from all training commitments," the club said in a brief statement on Sunday evening.

It should stop the speculation about his future for a few seconds, although a likely settlement in coming days with his accredited manager, Wayde Rushton, allowing him to link with boxing promoter Matt Rose, could hasten a possible deal.

As it stands, Mitchell is eyeing off the very risky proposition of signing a one-year deal with South Sydney worth about $400,000 and then hoping the club can move on other players to accommodate a sizeable extension from 2021.

Latrell Mitchell's management situation might be resolved soon — but it won't determine where he signs for 2020 in a hurry.
Latrell Mitchell's management situation might be resolved soon — but it won't determine where he signs for 2020 in a hurry.CREDIT:NRL PHOTOS

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From day one, Mitchell has said his next contract is about doing what’s best for his family.

But a one-year deal will be the ballsiest career move from a player in recent times or the dumbest, depending on how you look at it. There’s certainly no security in it.

The last bona fide superstar in his prime to play from year to year in the NRL was Sonny Bill Williams with the Roosters in 2013 and 2014.

Williams was on a $1 million a year, had already earned a pile of money playing for the All Blacks, and also enjoyed a fatherly relationship with chairman Nick Politis, who would help him with whatever he needed during and then after his career.

And he was SBW. Only a player in possession of that ability, physique, self-discipline and self-belief could pull it off.

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Mitchell is not that player. Not yet.

If he suffers a serious injury, or dips dramatically in form, he will lose all bargaining power.

But that's the scenario taking shape for the 22-year-old as his contract negotiations border on the ridiculous.

Reports exploded to life over the weekend about him being on the verge of finally doing a deal with Souths — where he has been tipped for weeks to eventually land — as he changes manager for the third time in eight months.

It’s a little more complicated than that, however. There are many more dominoes left to fall.

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Mitchell’s accredited manager — Rushton — has been working out a pay-out with Mitchell’s unofficial manager — Rose — and now it might happen.

Anyone with any vague knowledge of the Latrell saga is aware how Rose has effectively been acting as his agent for months — stretching back to May last year when Mitchell ended his relationship with his first manager, Steve Deacon.

Rushton has been trying to work out for weeks where he stands with Mitchell, without much luck let alone a return phone call.

He was seeking a $150,000 payout to get out of his management deal but was offered only $5000 just before Christmas. A settlement is expected to be reached by Tuesday.

But anyone who thinks Mitchell is a done deal at Redfern as soon as he switches from Rushton to Rose is getting ahead of themselves.

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The priority for Souths head of football Shane Richardson is Jai Arrow.

Souths coach Wayne Bennett has been in contact with Rose directly, but suggestions that a deal with Mitchell is being pieced together behind Richardson's back have been denied.

Souths wants Arrow a year earlier from the Gold Coast Titans after signing him just before Christmas on a four-year deal from 2021.

But the Titans are unlikely to let that happen unless the Storm release Tino Fa'asuamaleaui, who has signed with the Titans from 2021, or Souths can give them another player.

Dane Gagai’s name keeps getting mentioned but he has no intention of going to the Gold Coast, last year’s wooden-spooners.

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If Arrow does end up coming to Souths early — as is eventually expected — it will leave the Rabbitohs with about $400,000 of salary cap space to accommodate Mitchell for one year.

The Roosters are prepared to pay some of his wage this year, but only so much.

“If anyone thinks we’re paying $400,000 for one of our players to play for South Sydney, they are kidding,” said one Rooster source familiar with the negotiations.

The longer the saga drags on, though, the more money the Roosters have to pay Mitchell, a player who is contracted until November but a player they no longer want.

They are also eyeing off Storm winger Josh Addo-Carr, who will be released from his Storm deal early on compassionate grounds but only on the condition of them getting a player of the same value as Addo-Carr, a NSW and Australian representative.

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Meanwhile, the Roosters crank up preparations for their premiership defence when training resumes on Monday morning.

Mitchell can make whatever decision he wants about his future — but it’s unfortunate he won’t be there with them.

In time, in the right circumstances, he could be Sonny-esque.

In early November, he knocked back a $2.4 million, three-year extension with the Roosters, with a coach like Trent Robinson in his corner, playing on a left-edge that includes Luke Keary, Boyd Cordner and Daniel Tupou.

What was the best option for Latrell Mitchell? It was obvious then, and it's even more so now.
 
@Snake said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1076387) said:
@tiger05premier Just on news .. Robinson called him into office and notified him that the contract offer has been withdrawn !

That adds to the number of clubs who have withdrawn their offer. Lucky he has a backer like Crowe.
 
What an sad display all round.
Rose offering 5k to get rid of Rushton. These fools couldn't put on a BBQ.
Sign a deal with us and he'll be wanting out by year end.
 
If he takes on a one year deal at reduced rate and then signs on a huge money deal after that surely the NRL looks at that as a deliberate way to circumvent the back-ending of the contract.
 
Isn’t Latrell a top bloke. Forcing his indigenous brothers out of the club they want to play for, so that he can be squeezed in.

His new teammates are going to love him.
 
@Harvey said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097846) said:
Isn’t Latrell a top bloke. Forcing his indigenous brothers out of the club they want to play for, so that he can be squeezed in.

His new teammates are going to love him.

Poor Latrell, give him a break. he's just trying to do the best for his family. Please....... (sarcasm alert).
 
Just met someone who is related to Rose, Latrell's "new " manager.
They advised me not to give up on Latrell coming to the Tigers.
I don't know what to make of this, but I'll be happy if he comes.
 
@Tiger2135 said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097910) said:
Just met someone who is related to Rose, Latrell's "new " manager.
They advised me not to give up on Latrell coming to the Tigers.
I don't know what to make of this, but I'll be happy if he comes.

Well it needs to happen very quickly whoever signs him or he’ll be playing front row!
 
@Tcat said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097859) said:
@Harvey said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097846) said:
Isn’t Latrell a top bloke. Forcing his indigenous brothers out of the club they want to play for, so that he can be squeezed in.

His new teammates are going to love him.

Poor Latrell, give him a break. he's just trying to do the best for his family. Please....... (sarcasm alert).

Jesus Christ, everyone knows the score. If Souths or Wests are prepared to offer the money, well it's the club who have to accommodate it. They will be the ones who have to make the decisions on moving players on as they manage the cap, not Latrell (or any other player for that matter.)
 
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097914) said:
@Tcat said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097859) said:
@Harvey said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097846) said:
Isn’t Latrell a top bloke. Forcing his indigenous brothers out of the club they want to play for, so that he can be squeezed in.

His new teammates are going to love him.

Poor Latrell, give him a break. he's just trying to do the best for his family. Please....... (sarcasm alert).

Jesus Christ, everyone knows the score. If Souths or Wests are prepared to offer the money, well it's the club who have to accommodate it. They will be the ones who have to make the decisions on moving players on as they manage the cap, not Latrell (or any other player for that matter.)

Settle grettle. No one knows the score atm.
 
@Tcat said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097922) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097914) said:
@Tcat said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097859) said:
@Harvey said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097846) said:
Isn’t Latrell a top bloke. Forcing his indigenous brothers out of the club they want to play for, so that he can be squeezed in.

His new teammates are going to love him.

Poor Latrell, give him a break. he's just trying to do the best for his family. Please....... (sarcasm alert).

Jesus Christ, everyone knows the score. If Souths or Wests are prepared to offer the money, well it's the club who have to accommodate it. They will be the ones who have to make the decisions on moving players on as they manage the cap, not Latrell (or any other player for that matter.)

Settle grettle. No one knows the score atm.

I am settled, Gretel.

Of course he's going to look after himself. Do you not do that when you make decisions about your career?
 
If Rose is better than the previous muppet it makes total sense for him to sit down with Souths and WT this week, see where both clubs are at and what they're prepared to offer so he can go back to Mitchell and advise him what his options are and what he thinks he should do. He wouldn't be doing his job if he only talks to souths, unless LM has told him directly 'I only want to play for souths' in which case he's talking himself out of money.
 
@Tiger_Steve said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097911) said:
@Tiger2135 said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1097910) said:
Just met someone who is related to Rose, Latrell's "new " manager.
They advised me not to give up on Latrell coming to the Tigers.
I don't know what to make of this, but I'll be happy if he comes.

Well it needs to happen very quickly whoever signs him or he’ll be playing front row!

Just want to add to this on a more serious note.

Today I’m imagining most teams began post Christmas preseason training. This is the most important time of the year. It’s where the rubber meets the road.
Meanwhile, Mitchell is still fluffing around deciding where to play. Now if he is training full tilt like all his other fellow professional athletes then I take this back, but I reckon this kid is a bit Clueless without the maturity or mentorship to realise he has been kissed on the arse by a rainbow. He is blessed with an abundance of talent and can live an amazingly luxurious life just through playing sport. But this clown can’t get his stuff together. Really really sad and disrespectful to the thousands who would jump in his shoes given the chance. My message to Latrell: grow up kid and make something of yourself!
 
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