Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion

[Moh]

AJ must be going somewhere or the deal doesn't fit into their cap.

If LM is going to Souths it must certainly mean AJ to us. And it must be announced today.

I struggle to understand how the NRL can sign off on this deal with Souths - it is a rort in every way. We did everything we could, and it was literally a case of a player not wanting to be here.

We need to get JAC here now.

 

[Fletch]

Pascoe rates AJ. If latrell decides on Souths and AJ is made available Pascoe will sign him

Umm.. is Justin now doing the player talent evaluations himself?

Funny thing is Johnston has been discussed before Latrell came into the picture. Was told he could explore his options & a couple of discussions between the club (mainly Madge) has occurred with him.

given we have to still spend a fair chunk of our cap to be compliant in 2020, has Madge been in discussions with any other players that haven't been mentioned?

It’s all got to come to ahead in the next 2-3 weeks. Plenty of clubs moving behind the scenes & it’s only going to take a couple of quick decisions for this player market to explode. But scoring ability is the target. If Stefano falls through for 2020 (which it’s highly unlikely) an impact forward will be chased but so far Setu is impressing.

Any idea who is most likely to be playing nine for us

This could honestly be the hardest question to answer. 3 players have mainly trained there. Mbye, Walters & Reynolds. Could become dependant on who signs. A quality back could force Mbye there with Walters as a utility & obviously waiting on outcome of Reynolds situation.

Looks like we can pencil in Mbye as the starting hooker for Rd1 with JRey at 14...

 

[avocadoontoast]

Pascoe rates AJ. If latrell decides on Souths and AJ is made available Pascoe will sign him

Umm.. is Justin now doing the player talent evaluations himself?

Funny thing is Johnston has been discussed before Latrell came into the picture. Was told he could explore his options & a couple of discussions between the club (mainly Madge) has occurred with him.

given we have to still spend a fair chunk of our cap to be compliant in 2020, has Madge been in discussions with any other players that haven't been mentioned?

It’s all got to come to ahead in the next 2-3 weeks. Plenty of clubs moving behind the scenes & it’s only going to take a couple of quick decisions for this player market to explode. But scoring ability is the target. If Stefano falls through for 2020 (which it’s highly unlikely) an impact forward will be chased but so far Setu is impressing.

Any idea who is most likely to be playing nine for us

And as importantly, any idea who will be playing fullback?

Corey Thompson will seemingly get first crack at the fullback spot given his strong performances in the position last season

Mate I know you're a bit of a star on the forum but was that comment genuine? IMO he is a fair winger and an awful fullback. If I had to rate the fullbacks from all clubs he'd be in my bottom 4. If he plays fullback this year we are no chance of the 8.

That’s a little unkind. I think Corey is a great fullback.

He’s a good winger but he’s an awful fullback.

Wow, your entitled to your opinion, However, labeling Corey as an awful fullback May be up there with one of the most absurd comments I’ve read here in the forum, in MY opinion.

He wouldn’t get a start at fullback at any other nrl club.

 

[tiger05premier]

Pascoe rates AJ. If latrell decides on Souths and AJ is made available Pascoe will sign him

Surely it should be who Madge rates not Pascoe

Be surprised how little the HC is involved in those decisions with new signings and cap management

That’s not even remotely close to the truth. Madge is directly involved & very selective on both new signings & re-signings. Gets advice on up & coming talent from scouts which he’s also closely involved with.

Every club differs. Madge doesn’t decide the numbers and terms.

He is consulted on value/worth & term of the deal. He’s hands on with roster management.

He literally has no say on value and worth. If he likes a player the club will attempt to get them.

How can a HEAD COACH not have not have any input on what a player is worth to his team & $$ on the cap.
1st you said he had next to nothing to do with recruitment.

We appreciate your input here Pom.

Just ignore Wokesmoke or whatever 'personality' smoking gun is today. It is rather obvious he makes it up, contradicts himself literally every third post...you don't need to waste time explaining yourself to him mate.

I'm sure the GUN actually hates WT and just comes on here out of boredom to stir things up

He obviously gets some inside info but whoever gives it to him is just playing him it seems

 

[tiger05premier]

The Pom/Woke Smoke battle was highly exhilarating 😂

The POM wins easily

I wish the tiger's could as easily as he does

 

[fibrodreaming]

I struggle to understand how the NRL can sign off on this deal with Souths

The article says Souths moved on LM when the possibility of Arrow moving in 2020 became less likely. It seems that it will be LM to Souths in 2020 and Arrow in 2021. If so, their pack is looking under strength this season.

 

[Moh]

I struggle to understand how the NRL can sign off on this deal with Souths

The article says Souths moved on LM when the possibility of Arrow moving in 2020 became less likely. It seems that it will be LM to Souths in 2020 and Arrow in 2021. If so, their pack is looking under strength this season.

But even for this season, it's unders.

And then they will need to fit him in on an upgraded deal from 2021 onwards.

 

[Geo]

A lot of experts on Souff's salary cap......

 

[Moh]

A lot of experts on Souff's salary cap......

Not claiming to be an expert of anything mate.

I've prefixed my opinions on this topic based on the assumptions what the media is saying is in fact true, however unlikely that is.

Going off that, Souths have offered a deal under half ours for a single season.

 

[tiger05premier]

There was a meeting....?

There’s been a very brief point of communication with the club about if the deal would be revisited but Latrell has not directly met with anyone from the club since Taree.

Hi POM

Just wondering who initiated the meeting

Us or LM camp

If us I guess we have no hope

If LM camp than a bit of hope

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

It's obvious LM doesnt want to come here. WT management need to keep our dignity and totally close the door on LM. I'll be guttered if the door is left open for him and he either plays for Norths or takes a big pay cut to play elsewhere. We'll never be taken seriously by any quality player.

Yeah surely the club has some idea of what's going on

Who knows he may have already signed with us and we are close to announcing it

But if the rumors are true about his genuine interest in joining the rabbits and he is stalling with us Just publicly announced that we are closing the door on LM for good so he has no bargaining power with rabbits


And there are

Andrew Webster at SMH reporting it's official - Latrell agreeing to terms w Souths, subject to NRL and Roosters. I think it's the first non-gossip journo to state so?

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/mitchell-agrees-to-terms-with-souths-but-roosters-want-money-back-20200109-p53q6c.html

>Roosters centre Latrell Mitchell has finally agreed to terms with South Sydney, who are confident he will be at Redfern on Monday morning for his first training session.
>
>The contract is yet to be officially signed, however, and also needs to be ratified by the NRL salary cap auditor.
>
>Another final stumbling block could be the Roosters, who are expected to ask for the $116,000 they have already paid the 22-year-old international since November to be returned to them.
>
>It was unclear at the time of writing exactly what the Rabbitohs deal would look like, with Souths wary of making any announcement before the contract was officially signed.
>
>The club has said all along it could only offer him a one-year deal for 2020 and would then have to move on players from 2021 to accommodate a larger deal.
>
>What is certain is that Souths do not have to register a contract for Mitchell at "market value" for the 2020 season, despite reports saying otherwise.
>
>The large deals offered to him by the Roosters and the Wests Tigers are irrelevant to his contract for this year.
>
>According to the NRL, Souths only need to match the value of Mitchell’s current deal with the Roosters. That figure is $700,000, of which two months has already been paid.
>
>Other clubs interested in Mitchell have offered to compensate the Roosters for what they’ve already paid him, but it is unlikely Souths would consider it — or have the salary cap space to do so.
>
>Mitchell’s imminent signing is another chapter in a long-standing feud between the two foundation clubs, which have fought over players like Ron Coote, Craig Wing and, in more recent times, Angus Crichton.
>
>It will also finally bring closure to one of the messiest off-season contract negotiations in recent memory.
>
>They started in November when he rejected the Roosters’ $800,000-a-season extension on his current deal.
>
>Mitchell then spoke to the Tigers, Cowboys, Titans and Bulldogs, but a management dispute with accredited manager Wayde Rushton so he could sign Matt Rose stalled the process.
>
>A settlement worth $55,000 was reached with Rushton earlier this week.
>
>Souths had made Titans forward Jai Arrow their focus instead of Mitchell, signing him to a four-year deal from 2021 after the shock retirement of Sam Burgess in the off-season because of a shoulder injury.
>
>They had been confident earlier this week of securing Arrow a season early, but when that became less likely they moved onto Mitchell.

So mitchell spent 55k removing one manager, probably cost him money to remove original manager to rushton, knocks back, 800k from roosters, a mil from us, then signs for less for rabbits.

And there are still contributors here that want him at our club..what a great signing that would be ….Not!

I guess we could just plod along by recruiting plodders to fill spots...?

Latrell Mitchell is on the market: Booo, he's hard work, we don't want him.

AJ is on the market: Booo, he's a plodder, we don't want him.

 

[wokesmoke]

Andrew Webster at SMH reporting it's official - Latrell agreeing to terms w Souths, subject to NRL and Roosters. I think it's the first non-gossip journo to state so?

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/mitchell-agrees-to-terms-with-souths-but-roosters-want-money-back-20200109-p53q6c.html

>Roosters centre Latrell Mitchell has finally agreed to terms with South Sydney, who are confident he will be at Redfern on Monday morning for his first training session.
>
>The contract is yet to be officially signed, however, and also needs to be ratified by the NRL salary cap auditor.
>
>Another final stumbling block could be the Roosters, who are expected to ask for the $116,000 they have already paid the 22-year-old international since November to be returned to them.
>
>It was unclear at the time of writing exactly what the Rabbitohs deal would look like, with Souths wary of making any announcement before the contract was officially signed.
>
>The club has said all along it could only offer him a one-year deal for 2020 and would then have to move on players from 2021 to accommodate a larger deal.
>
>What is certain is that Souths do not have to register a contract for Mitchell at "market value" for the 2020 season, despite reports saying otherwise.
>
>The large deals offered to him by the Roosters and the Wests Tigers are irrelevant to his contract for this year.
>
>According to the NRL, Souths only need to match the value of Mitchell’s current deal with the Roosters. That figure is $700,000, of which two months has already been paid.
>
>Other clubs interested in Mitchell have offered to compensate the Roosters for what they’ve already paid him, but it is unlikely Souths would consider it — or have the salary cap space to do so.
>
>Mitchell’s imminent signing is another chapter in a long-standing feud between the two foundation clubs, which have fought over players like Ron Coote, Craig Wing and, in more recent times, Angus Crichton.
>
>It will also finally bring closure to one of the messiest off-season contract negotiations in recent memory.
>
>They started in November when he rejected the Roosters’ $800,000-a-season extension on his current deal.
>
>Mitchell then spoke to the Tigers, Cowboys, Titans and Bulldogs, but a management dispute with accredited manager Wayde Rushton so he could sign Matt Rose stalled the process.
>
>A settlement worth $55,000 was reached with Rushton earlier this week.
>
>Souths had made Titans forward Jai Arrow their focus instead of Mitchell, signing him to a four-year deal from 2021 after the shock retirement of Sam Burgess in the off-season because of a shoulder injury.
>
>They had been confident earlier this week of securing Arrow a season early, but when that became less likely they moved onto Mitchell.

What a wish wash article that is.

Souths sign latrell!! **depending on cap audit, roosters Agreeing to release, AND Souths paying the $116k**

Later on in article

Souths unlikely to consider paying the $116k as cant fit into cap....

Webby having his cake and eating it too with this “exclusive”

 

[TillLindemann]

The Pom/Woke Smoke battle was highly exhilarating ?

The POM wins easily

I wish the tiger's could as easily as he does

Haha earlier in the day people were even fretting that the pom had closed his account.

Then out of nowhere he comes charging down the sideline like Pat Richards in the 05 grand final.

 

[boonboon]

People keep asking how souths have enough cap space but it doesent seem that surprising to me. At the start if last year they had Greg Inglis, Sam Burgess, George Burgess all on great money who are all gone and the only top class replacement has been a problem child James Roberts - should have plenty of cap space left

 

[TYGA]

Andrew Webster at SMH reporting it's official - Latrell agreeing to terms w Souths, subject to NRL and Roosters. I think it's the first non-gossip journo to state so?

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/mitchell-agrees-to-terms-with-souths-but-roosters-want-money-back-20200109-p53q6c.html

>Roosters centre Latrell Mitchell has finally agreed to terms with South Sydney, who are confident he will be at Redfern on Monday morning for his first training session.
>
>The contract is yet to be officially signed, however, and also needs to be ratified by the NRL salary cap auditor.
>
>Another final stumbling block could be the Roosters, who are expected to ask for the $116,000 they have already paid the 22-year-old international since November to be returned to them.
>
>It was unclear at the time of writing exactly what the Rabbitohs deal would look like, with Souths wary of making any announcement before the contract was officially signed.
>
>The club has said all along it could only offer him a one-year deal for 2020 and would then have to move on players from 2021 to accommodate a larger deal.
>
>What is certain is that Souths do not have to register a contract for Mitchell at "market value" for the 2020 season, despite reports saying otherwise.
>
>The large deals offered to him by the Roosters and the Wests Tigers are irrelevant to his contract for this year.
>
>According to the NRL, Souths only need to match the value of Mitchell’s current deal with the Roosters. That figure is $700,000, of which two months has already been paid.
>
>Other clubs interested in Mitchell have offered to compensate the Roosters for what they’ve already paid him, but it is unlikely Souths would consider it — or have the salary cap space to do so.
>
>Mitchell’s imminent signing is another chapter in a long-standing feud between the two foundation clubs, which have fought over players like Ron Coote, Craig Wing and, in more recent times, Angus Crichton.
>
>It will also finally bring closure to one of the messiest off-season contract negotiations in recent memory.
>
>They started in November when he rejected the Roosters’ $800,000-a-season extension on his current deal.
>
>Mitchell then spoke to the Tigers, Cowboys, Titans and Bulldogs, but a management dispute with accredited manager Wayde Rushton so he could sign Matt Rose stalled the process.
>
>A settlement worth $55,000 was reached with Rushton earlier this week.
>
>Souths had made Titans forward Jai Arrow their focus instead of Mitchell, signing him to a four-year deal from 2021 after the shock retirement of Sam Burgess in the off-season because of a shoulder injury.
>
>They had been confident earlier this week of securing Arrow a season early, but when that became less likely they moved onto Mitchell.


What a wish wash article that is.

Souths sign latrell!! **depending on cap audit, roosters Agreeing to release, AND Souths paying the $116k**

Later on in article

Souths unlikely to consider paying the $116k as cant fit into cap....

Webby having his cake and eating it too with this “exclusive”

It’s done they have the cap room. They will do this deal and then work on Arrows release. They have players other teams want. A.J. and Gagai can be moved easily if they pay a chunk. Would we not take AJ for 400k or Gagai for 500k the answer is yes. Same goes for other clubs.

 

[wokesmoke]

People keep asking how souths have enough cap space but it doesent seem that surprising to me. At the start if last year they had Greg Inglis, Sam Burgess, George Burgess all on great money who are all gone and the only top class replacement has been a problem child James Roberts - should have plenty of cap space left

Upgrades and extensions rep incentive payments etc, Not getting any comp from broncos on roberts anymore as wel. burgess money yeah as that was unexpected. but doubt they sat on Inglis and George money. Wouldn’t of known back then LM was gonna become available.

 

[tiger05premier]

People keep asking how souths have enough cap space but it doesent seem that surprising to me. At the start if last year they had Greg Inglis, Sam Burgess, George Burgess all on great money who are all gone and the only top class replacement has been a problem child James Roberts - should have plenty of cap space left

Plus John Sutton and Roberts would only be on half what GI was

They have reportedly upgraded a few but surely they have some to spend

I think their ability to spend money for LM this year hangs on whether they can get Arrow for this year and I also think they may have another forward in their plans as they have mainly lost forwards and GI was already replaced by Roberts

 

[wokesmoke]

Andrew Webster at SMH reporting it's official - Latrell agreeing to terms w Souths, subject to NRL and Roosters. I think it's the first non-gossip journo to state so?

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/mitchell-agrees-to-terms-with-souths-but-roosters-want-money-back-20200109-p53q6c.html

>Roosters centre Latrell Mitchell has finally agreed to terms with South Sydney, who are confident he will be at Redfern on Monday morning for his first training session.
>
>The contract is yet to be officially signed, however, and also needs to be ratified by the NRL salary cap auditor.
>
>Another final stumbling block could be the Roosters, who are expected to ask for the $116,000 they have already paid the 22-year-old international since November to be returned to them.
>
>It was unclear at the time of writing exactly what the Rabbitohs deal would look like, with Souths wary of making any announcement before the contract was officially signed.
>
>The club has said all along it could only offer him a one-year deal for 2020 and would then have to move on players from 2021 to accommodate a larger deal.
>
>What is certain is that Souths do not have to register a contract for Mitchell at "market value" for the 2020 season, despite reports saying otherwise.
>
>The large deals offered to him by the Roosters and the Wests Tigers are irrelevant to his contract for this year.
>
>According to the NRL, Souths only need to match the value of Mitchell’s current deal with the Roosters. That figure is $700,000, of which two months has already been paid.
>
>Other clubs interested in Mitchell have offered to compensate the Roosters for what they’ve already paid him, but it is unlikely Souths would consider it — or have the salary cap space to do so.
>
>Mitchell’s imminent signing is another chapter in a long-standing feud between the two foundation clubs, which have fought over players like Ron Coote, Craig Wing and, in more recent times, Angus Crichton.
>
>It will also finally bring closure to one of the messiest off-season contract negotiations in recent memory.
>
>They started in November when he rejected the Roosters’ $800,000-a-season extension on his current deal.
>
>Mitchell then spoke to the Tigers, Cowboys, Titans and Bulldogs, but a management dispute with accredited manager Wayde Rushton so he could sign Matt Rose stalled the process.
>
>A settlement worth $55,000 was reached with Rushton earlier this week.
>
>Souths had made Titans forward Jai Arrow their focus instead of Mitchell, signing him to a four-year deal from 2021 after the shock retirement of Sam Burgess in the off-season because of a shoulder injury.
>
>They had been confident earlier this week of securing Arrow a season early, but when that became less likely they moved onto Mitchell.


What a wish wash article that is.

Souths sign latrell!! **depending on cap audit, roosters Agreeing to release, AND Souths paying the $116k**

Later on in article

Souths unlikely to consider paying the $116k as cant fit into cap....

Webby having his cake and eating it too with this “exclusive”

It’s done they have the cap room. They will do this deal and then work on Arrows release. They have players other teams want. A.J. and Gagai can be moved easily if they pay a chunk. Would we not take AJ for 400k or Gagai for 500k the answer is yes. Same goes for other clubs.

U realise what they pay other teams to take their unwanted players counts towards their cap right?

So paying tigers (for example) $200k to take AJ then signing arrow for 2020 on 800k means it costs them 1 mil for arrow for 2020....

 

[TYGA]

People keep asking how souths have enough cap space but it doesent seem that surprising to me. At the start if last year they had Greg Inglis, Sam Burgess, George Burgess all on great money who are all gone and the only top class replacement has been a problem child James Roberts - should have plenty of cap space left

Upgrades and extensions rep incentive payments etc, Not getting any comp from broncos on roberts anymore as wel. burgess money yeah as that was unexpected. but doubt they sat on Inglis and George money. Wouldn’t of known back then LM was gonna become available.

They were working on the deal with his new manager the whole time just had to change management. Recruitment in the NRL is all orchestrated.

 

[wokesmoke]

People keep asking how souths have enough cap space but it doesent seem that surprising to me. At the start if last year they had Greg Inglis, Sam Burgess, George Burgess all on great money who are all gone and the only top class replacement has been a problem child James Roberts - should have plenty of cap space left

Plus John Sutton and Roberts would only be on half what GI was

They have reportedly upgraded a few but surely they have some to spend

I think their ability to spend money for LM this year hangs on whether they can get Arrow for this year and I also think they may have another forward in their plans as they have mainly lost forwards and GI was already replaced by Roberts

Sutton was on peanuts that last 12 months.