Lawrence

We shouldn’t forget the try that won us the game against Melbourne. Rowdy ran one of his usual lines as a decoy. He was on the left cutting back in at the B defender. He sucked in at least two Melbourne defenders. Result, Brooks in space one on one. Just saying.
 
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I'd like to know what Hobbo thinks about the above post as he is very objective when it comes to Rowdy..

And yes Hobb's MWZ batted the ball back in..

Well I'm not going to retract my recent statements am I !
He was garage against the Broncos…period
lawrence is obviously a fan favourite amoungst the older fan base !
We on here are a minute portion of the Wests Tigers fan base .. Open your eyes and see what the rest of the world are saying !
And before you waffle on ( as usual )
In regards to him being selected each week ...
FIIK

The rest of the World eh…What are they saying..?
 
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MCK

Yet again the Beast is Mikaele , not MCK

Yeah right … When MCK went on we lifted
When he was subbed for Zelezniak we went backwards
Bad move from the coach mate

Wasn’t it MWZ who got the ball back for us from over the sideline that lead to Brooks kicking the equalizing field goal?

Oh! you don't want to take in any realities like that - it's all about the "Mighty Beast"

If the "Mighty Beast" hadn't have gone off - he would have won the game on his own.
 
Chris always gives his best in games, as does Kev and I dare say both of them are great for team morale, on and off the field. Unfortunately, both of them lack the effectiveness we need in their respective positions in the starting side. Without due respect to them both, we simply need more impact in the second row and centre!
 
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Chris always gives his best in games, as does Kev and I dare say both of them are great for team morale, on and off the field. Unfortunately, both of them lack the effectiveness we need in their respective positions in the starting side. Without due respect to them both, we simply need more impact in the second row and centre!

Beautifully articulated and 100% correct.
 
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I'd like to know what Hobbo thinks about the above post as he is very objective when it comes to Rowdy..

And yes Hobb's MWZ batted the ball back in..

Well I'm not going to retract my recent statements am I !
He was garage against the Broncos…period
lawrence is obviously a fan favourite amoungst the older fan base !
We on here are a minute portion of the Wests Tigers fan base .. Open your eyes and see what the rest of the world are saying !
And before you waffle on ( as usual )
In regards to him being selected each week ...
FIIK

He wasnt the only one. Masters nofo aloiai all played average.
 
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I'd like to know what Hobbo thinks about the above post as he is very objective when it comes to Rowdy..

And yes Hobb's MWZ batted the ball back in..

Well I'm not going to retract my recent statements am I !
He was garage against the Broncos…period
lawrence is obviously a fan favourite amoungst the older fan base !
We on here are a minute portion of the Wests Tigers fan base .. Open your eyes and see what the rest of the world are saying !
And before you waffle on ( as usual )
In regards to him being selected each week ...
FIIK

He wasnt the only one. Masters nofo aloiai all played average.

Fair point …..
 
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Masters cannot kick.
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He may kick em at training but u can see his craping himself kicking at game
We need a kicker asap.

Yeah but he's not the first-choice kicker. How many backups at clubs are kicking are 80%

Yeah but how many clubs have had goal kicking mentors like jason Taylor , Brett Hodgson and Ivan Cleary to learn from only to continually suck at slotting goals !

100%:agree, it cost us 2 points on friday, and with our attack we need to kick at a higher percentage or it will cost us again. Benji surely kicks better than Marsters

It does not take a rocket scientist to know maaters should not be kicking. Hopefully the club works swiftly on that.

Also believe the club need to make a call on two 9 in the 17\. Surely an extra forward has more benefit than those two.
 
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Chris always gives his best in games, as does Kev and I dare say both of them are great for team morale, on and off the field. Unfortunately, both of them lack the effectiveness we need in their respective positions in the starting side. Without due respect to them both, we simply need more impact in the second row and centre!

You may be right but at least not this year when the whole squad is so close. This is our biggest weapon.
Maybe next if no results from them and the team.
 
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Yet again the Beast is Mikaele , not MCK

Yeah right … When MCK went on we lifted
When he was subbed for Zelezniak we went backwards
Bad move from the coach mate

Wasn’t it MWZ who got the ball back for us from over the sideline that lead to Brooks kicking the equalizing field goal?

Oh! you don't want to take in any realities like that - it's all about the "Mighty Beast"

If the "Mighty Beast" hadn't have gone off - he would have won the game on his own.

You wanna join the fan club?
 
Most of us are saying the same things. Lawrence is a champion bloke, a true professional and a fine example and leader for the younger players to follow. Also, before the hip injury, he was pure lightning with the ball and a try scoring machine. He will be remembered fondly for all these attributes and achievements. However, many of us feel that the team can do better if it replaces him with someone who is a more damaging runner, has better hands and can add more mongrel to our attack. The truth is that, despite making occasional hard hits in defense and running great decoys in offense, his regular handling errors are a liability to the team. Most of us are really not gunning for Chris when we say that he is not genuine, first grade back rower material. We already have hardworking toilers such as Eisenhuth, Rochow and Taylor and don't need any more, especially when they drop the ball regularly. What we do need is someone who can bend the line and for that reason I think he should be replaced by Sue, Felise or young Garner in ISP. Having said all this, it's clear that Ivan believes in Lawrence and intends to persevere with him. Like a few others, I am over the constant Rowdy bashing threads. Most of us want Chris gone but it's up to the coach. End of story.
 
Lawrence if well managed still has plenty to offer. He is as sort of guy who should be sent off to a tropical island once a month. He is the soul of the club with plenty of ability, but his body needs lots of well managed care…and we have the depth to do it
 
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Most of us are saying the same things. Lawrence is a champion bloke, a true professional and a fine example and leader for the younger players to follow. Also, before the hip injury, he was pure lightning with the ball and a try scoring machine. He will be remembered fondly for all these attributes and achievements. However, many of us feel that the team can do better if it replaces him with someone who is a more damaging runner, has better hands and can add more mongrel to our attack. The truth is that, despite making occasional hard hits in defense and running great decoys in offense, his regular handling errors are a liability to the team. Most of us are really not gunning for Chris when we say that he is not genuine, first grade back rower material. We already have hardworking toilers such as Eisenhuth, Rochow and Taylor and don't need any more, especially when they drop the ball regularly. What we do need is someone who can bend the line and for that reason I think he should be replaced by Sue, Felise or young Garner in ISP. Having said all this, it's clear that Ivan believes in Lawrence and intends to persevere with him. Like a few others, I am over the constant Rowdy bashing threads. **Most of us** want Chris gone but it's up to the coach. End of story.

“Most of us?” How many people did you survey? You missed me. Put me down for a no.
 
How could you possibly replace Rowdy with Sue or Felise? They are good props but don’t have the speed or agility required for an edge player. We tried Sue in the second row and it hasn’t worked. Most of us don’t want Chris gone. Our forwards are doing very well. Let’s back them.
 
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Most of us are saying the same things. Lawrence is a champion bloke, a true professional and a fine example and leader for the younger players to follow. Also, before the hip injury, he was pure lightning with the ball and a try scoring machine. He will be remembered fondly for all these attributes and achievements. However, many of us feel that the team can do better if it replaces him with someone who is a more damaging runner, has better hands and can add more mongrel to our attack. The truth is that, despite making occasional hard hits in defense and running great decoys in offense, his regular handling errors are a liability to the team. Most of us are really not gunning for Chris when we say that he is not genuine, first grade back rower material. We already have hardworking toilers such as Eisenhuth, Rochow and Taylor and don't need any more, especially when they drop the ball regularly. What we do need is someone who can bend the line and for that reason I think he should be replaced by Sue, Felise or young Garner in ISP. Having said all this, it's clear that Ivan believes in Lawrence and intends to persevere with him. Like a few others, I am over the constant Rowdy bashing threads. **Most of us** want Chris gone but it's up to the coach. End of story.

“Most of us?” How many people did you survey? You missed me. Put me down for a no.

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Most of us are saying the same things. Lawrence is a champion bloke, a true professional and a fine example and leader for the younger players to follow. Also, before the hip injury, he was pure lightning with the ball and a try scoring machine. He will be remembered fondly for all these attributes and achievements. However, many of us feel that the team can do better if it replaces him with someone who is a more damaging runner, has better hands and can add more mongrel to our attack. The truth is that, despite making occasional hard hits in defense and running great decoys in offense, his regular handling errors are a liability to the team. Most of us are really not gunning for Chris when we say that he is not genuine, first grade back rower material. We already have hardworking toilers such as Eisenhuth, Rochow and Taylor and don't need any more, especially when they drop the ball regularly. What we do need is someone who can bend the line and for that reason I think he should be replaced by Sue, Felise or young Garner in ISP. Having said all this, it's clear that Ivan believes in Lawrence and intends to persevere with him. Like a few others, I am over the constant Rowdy bashing threads. **Most of us** want Chris gone but it's up to the coach. End of story.

“Most of us?” How many people did you survey? You missed me. Put me down for a no.

+1

Here comes another one…......
 
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Most of us are saying the same things. Lawrence is a champion bloke, a true professional and a fine example and leader for the younger players to follow. Also, before the hip injury, he was pure lightning with the ball and a try scoring machine. He will be remembered fondly for all these attributes and achievements. However, many of us feel that the team can do better if it replaces him with someone who is a more damaging runner, has better hands and can add more mongrel to our attack. The truth is that, despite making occasional hard hits in defense and running great decoys in offense, his regular handling errors are a liability to the team. Most of us are really not gunning for Chris when we say that he is not genuine, first grade back rower material. We already have hardworking toilers such as Eisenhuth, Rochow and Taylor and don't need any more, especially when they drop the ball regularly. What we do need is someone who can bend the line and for that reason I think he should be replaced by Sue, Felise or young Garner in ISP. Having said all this, it's clear that Ivan believes in Lawrence and intends to persevere with him. Like a few others, I am over the constant Rowdy bashing threads. **Most of us** want Chris gone but it's up to the coach. End of story.

“Most of us?” How many people did you survey? You missed me. Put me down for a no.

+1

Here comes another one…......

Sorry guys , I'm out !
 
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Not Lawrence's best game, certainly not. He was good the previous two weeks.

Can I please also see the threads to cover the dropped balls from Thompson, Nofo and Aloiai, the missed tackles from Rochow, the bad passes from Brooks and Benji.

How is that the same? Lawrence had 3 drops from 7 runs. How is that the same as Thompson who dropped 1 ball.

In relation to the penalty in the 77th or so, the boys needed to be extra careful their. It was a criminal time to give it away.

And what about the other guys then?

It's also relative, Thompson dropped the ball right under our own sticks at the death of the game from a kick, Lawrence dropped a few early and from memory 2 of them were on the attack in their 20? And at least 1 of those was a hospital pass, I'd have to check the others.

I'd love to really know how many of these fumbles, all-career, Lawrence has had when just given nice out the back ball. How many drops were actually being in the teeth of the defence and thrown a bullet, or taking a tough hitup and being tackled by 3 dudes.

Lawrence never seems to get safe ball, he's always being asked to do dirty hard hitups and put his body on the line. Look how often Aloiai drops Brooks' passes as well, to have a think about pass selection.
 
Oh come on. Lawrence has awful hands. There's simply no denying it. He does cop some poor balls from Brooks, but he drops way too many passes that the vast majority of second rowers would take 80-90% of the time. They may not bust the line when taking those balls, but they'd hold on to it and get dominated in the tackle.

I'd like to see Lawrence to the bench and Aloiai to start. Lawrence playing at full speed for 35 mins off the bench might see him cut out the mistakes from the game. He runs hard so could have a bit of impact. Not an 80 min player anymore that's for sure.
 
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Lawrence if well managed still has plenty to offer. He is as sort of guy who should be sent off to a tropical island once a month. He is the soul of the club with plenty of ability, but his body needs lots of well managed care…and we have the depth to do it

Agree 100% on this
 

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