Liddle

[rustycage]

Maybe the resigning of Simpkin had something to with Liddle being rested/dropped. An audition perhaps.

They both seem good enough for first grade at this point. Maybe we can trade Liddle for a marque player, some teams are desperate for a quality hooker.


Liddle is off contract at the end of the season.He will get quite a few offers but personally i hope he stays as he is a quality hooker and we do need both him and Simpkin

Agree.
What position does Mikey Tannous play, he's a hooker from memory? Has pretty big wraps on him from people with a keen interest in our junior pathways. Shame he stuffed his knee before this season. He might end up in the mix as well once he rehabilitates.
Hard one, Liddle and Simpkin are two of our brightest youngsters......I'd be all for keeping both and offloading old, rotten deadwood from our roster instead of two of our future prospects.


I agree with everything you say.Tannous is also supposed to be a hooker but younger so he will be a few years off yet.I havent seen him play but apparently he is also good.

Should be ready a few years after we lose our existing top performing players if things go as per usual

 

[jadtiger]

Maybe the resigning of Simpkin had something to with Liddle being rested/dropped. An audition perhaps.

They both seem good enough for first grade at this point. Maybe we can trade Liddle for a marque player, some teams are desperate for a quality hooker.


Liddle is off contract at the end of the season.He will get quite a few offers but personally i hope he stays as he is a quality hooker and we do need both him and Simpkin

Agree.
What position does Mikey Tannous play, he's a hooker from memory? Has pretty big wraps on him from people with a keen interest in our junior pathways. Shame he stuffed his knee before this season. He might end up in the mix as well once he rehabilitates.
Hard one, Liddle and Simpkin are two of our brightest youngsters......I'd be all for keeping both and offloading old, rotten deadwood from our roster instead of two of our future prospects.


I agree with everything you say.Tannous is also supposed to be a hooker but younger so he will be a few years off yet.I havent seen him play but apparently he is also good.

Should be ready a few years after we lose our existing top performing players if things go as per usual

Lets hope we get it right for once

 

[Blake]

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/05/23/vb-hard-earned-effort-rd-11-vs-warriors/

It was fantastic to see Liddle run down RTS when he made a break. He looked surprisingly fast.

All we need from the hooker is fast accurate passing from dummy half and to sometimes run and sometimes get it to Brooks on quick play the balls.

A dominant/controlling hooker like Hodgson or Cam Smith changes the whole roster, you spend less on halves, more on forwards and the back 3.

 

[mike]

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/05/23/vb-hard-earned-effort-rd-11-vs-warriors/

It was fantastic to see Liddle run down RTS when he made a break. He looked surprisingly fast.

All we need from the hooker is fast accurate passing from dummy half and to sometimes run and sometimes get it to Brooks on quick play the balls.

A dominant/controlling hooker like Hodgson or Cam Smith changes the whole roster, you spend less on halves, more on forwards and the back 3.

Yeah it was good to see, he never gave up.

 

[TigerWest]

They haven’t resigned him yet, have they? Seems a bit strange.

 

[JC99]

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/05/23/vb-hard-earned-effort-rd-11-vs-warriors/

It was fantastic to see Liddle run down RTS when he made a break. He looked surprisingly fast.

All we need from the hooker is fast accurate passing from dummy half and to sometimes run and sometimes get it to Brooks on quick play the balls.

A dominant/controlling hooker like Hodgson or Cam Smith changes the whole roster, you spend less on halves, more on forwards and the back 3.

Wish he used that pace a bit more, needs to jump out and keep defences guessing like Korisau and Cook do

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

They haven’t resigned him yet, have they? Seems a bit strange.

Reports are that he has a one year contract on the table. My guess is there is an incentive there that if he plays well he can earn himself another year and maybe more $.

 

[mike]

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/05/23/vb-hard-earned-effort-rd-11-vs-warriors/

It was fantastic to see Liddle run down RTS when he made a break. He looked surprisingly fast.

All we need from the hooker is fast accurate passing from dummy half and to sometimes run and sometimes get it to Brooks on quick play the balls.

A dominant/controlling hooker like Hodgson or Cam Smith changes the whole roster, you spend less on halves, more on forwards and the back 3.

Wish he used that pace a bit more, needs to jump out and keep defences guessing like Korisau and Cook do

Really? I think Jacob Liddle is every bit as good as Koroisau and Cook; both of them are flat track bullies. Nothing more.

The good thing as well is that Liddle has been injury free since his return

 

[the_third]

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/05/23/vb-hard-earned-effort-rd-11-vs-warriors/

It was fantastic to see Liddle run down RTS when he made a break. He looked surprisingly fast.

All we need from the hooker is fast accurate passing from dummy half and to sometimes run and sometimes get it to Brooks on quick play the balls.

A dominant/controlling hooker like Hodgson or Cam Smith changes the whole roster, you spend less on halves, more on forwards and the back 3.

Wish he used that pace a bit more, needs to jump out and keep defences guessing like Korisau and Cook do

Really? I think Jacob Liddle is every bit as good as Koroisau and Cook; both of them are flat track bullies. Nothing more.

that's a backhanded compliment if ever I saw one. hahaha

 

[Snake]

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/05/23/vb-hard-earned-effort-rd-11-vs-warriors/

It was fantastic to see Liddle run down RTS when he made a break. He looked surprisingly fast.

All we need from the hooker is fast accurate passing from dummy half and to sometimes run and sometimes get it to Brooks on quick play the balls.

A dominant/controlling hooker like Hodgson or Cam Smith changes the whole roster, you spend less on halves, more on forwards and the back 3.

Wish he used that pace a bit more, needs to jump out and keep defences guessing like Korisau and Cook do

Really? I think Jacob Liddle is every bit as good as Koroisau and Cook; both of them are flat track bullies. Nothing more.

The good thing as well is that Liddle has been injury free since his return

If he stays injury free he is only going to get fitter and stronger ..his best is in front of him and some good offers will come ..i getting the feeling the club might be putting there eggs in the wrong basket.

 

[mike]

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/05/23/vb-hard-earned-effort-rd-11-vs-warriors/

It was fantastic to see Liddle run down RTS when he made a break. He looked surprisingly fast.

All we need from the hooker is fast accurate passing from dummy half and to sometimes run and sometimes get it to Brooks on quick play the balls.

A dominant/controlling hooker like Hodgson or Cam Smith changes the whole roster, you spend less on halves, more on forwards and the back 3.

Wish he used that pace a bit more, needs to jump out and keep defences guessing like Korisau and Cook do

Really? I think Jacob Liddle is every bit as good as Koroisau and Cook; both of them are flat track bullies. Nothing more.

The good thing as well is that Liddle has been injury free since his return

If he stays injury free he is only going to get fitter and stronger ..his best is in front of him and some good offers will come ..i getting the feeling the club might be putting there eggs in the wrong basket.

100% agree. He is only going to get better. Has the right never give up attitude (you can’t coach that). I hope the club sees what he is doing.

 

[sleeve]

About the only guy id invite around for a BBQ.

Seriously hard done by taking the fall for everyone else's incompetence.

Good luck at the Bulldogs or wherever you end up

Please don’t tell me we’ve lost him? The scapegoat? How the hell Madge can expect to remain coach after coaching decisions such as dropping Liddle instead of Mbye the catch and pass distributor and Luke chip kick bomber brooks is beyond me. How he could put Chee kam in the centre’s over Cini or drop Mikaele against Aloai is a mystery I will never ever understand.... Liddle just needed some match fitness and to develop combinations,,,,, but his job was impossible given the flat attack structure and the over running if every single damn play,,,, Cameron Smith would have looked like a park footballer given the attacking structure Liddle had to contend with from Dummy half in weeks one to. 6 FFS !

The only reason I can think of for Liddle being dropped was his timing from dummy half. If it's not consistent players can not run hard because they are slowing down waiting for the pass. I didn't see much else wrong with his game.


It sure made a difference.. . .

Was a weak decision to ONLY drop him.

Did I accidentally wander into the "Sacking Luke Brooks will fix everything" thread again? Those topic titles can be tricky.


Did you carry over your emotions from a Luke brooks thread into this one?

No, but you have been a lot repetitive throughout the years. Are you saying that this time you would not have dropped Brooks?


Having to explain this just shows i was right about you being upset about your mate.

All ive said here and its a very valid point is that Jacob Liddle did not deserve the blame for an under performing team.
If you are happy for one player to bear the brunt of our performances well thatll do me.

The dropping of ONLY Jacob Liddle is the reason we got smashed by Manly.

I think the dropping of only Liddle has more to do with the quality of the replacement.


So MYBE cant be dropped?

I hate this kind of black and white approach. No reason at all Liddle couldnt have played 14.

He was made the scapegoat for the other 16 players. Thats how i see it.

It worked out so well. All the other 16 really repaid the faith the coach showed in them. . .

we did have a great game against souths without Liddle ....
Not having Liddle against Manly made no difference to the result Simpkin went ok.
Liddle to 14 might be good but longterm Hastings probably plays the lock / role of Mmbye and if Mmbye is still here next year then we can't have Liddle Hastings Mmbye and Brooks all in the 17 unless Mmbye plays centre

I don't get that everyone thinks Hastings will be lock. Definately next to Brooks in the halves for mine.

 

[JC99]

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/05/23/vb-hard-earned-effort-rd-11-vs-warriors/

It was fantastic to see Liddle run down RTS when he made a break. He looked surprisingly fast.

All we need from the hooker is fast accurate passing from dummy half and to sometimes run and sometimes get it to Brooks on quick play the balls.

A dominant/controlling hooker like Hodgson or Cam Smith changes the whole roster, you spend less on halves, more on forwards and the back 3.

Wish he used that pace a bit more, needs to jump out and keep defences guessing like Korisau and Cook do

Really? I think Jacob Liddle is every bit as good as Koroisau and Cook; both of them are flat track bullies. Nothing more.

No chance. He could be in the future but they're miles ahead

 

[Tiger5150]

I have to admit. After 5 rounds, I thought Liddle was rubbish (he was) and I wanted Simpkin in there. Sinpkin started well but then fell away..


I think Liddle has been better than Simpkin in recent weeks. but not by much. If we could only keep one, I;d keep Simpkin because of age and lack of injury history. I dont think there is much between them, and right now neither is exciting.

 

[mike]

I have to admit. After 5 rounds, I thought Liddle was rubbish (he was) and I wanted Simpkin in there. Sinpkin started well but then fell away..


I think Liddle has been better than Simpkin in recent weeks. but not by much. If we could only keep one, I;d keep Simpkin because of age and lack of injury history. I dont think there is much between them, and right now neither is exciting.

I think Liddle has a better attitude of the two.

 

[Tiger5150]

I have to admit. After 5 rounds, I thought Liddle was rubbish (he was) and I wanted Simpkin in there. Sinpkin started well but then fell away..


I think Liddle has been better than Simpkin in recent weeks. but not by much. If we could only keep one, I;d keep Simpkin because of age and lack of injury history. I dont think there is much between them, and right now neither is exciting.

I think Liddle has a better attitude of the two.

By much?

 

[Merlot]

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/05/23/vb-hard-earned-effort-rd-11-vs-warriors/

It was fantastic to see Liddle run down RTS when he made a break. He looked surprisingly fast.

All we need from the hooker is fast accurate passing from dummy half and to sometimes run and sometimes get it to Brooks on quick play the balls.

A dominant/controlling hooker like Hodgson or Cam Smith changes the whole roster, you spend less on halves, more on forwards and the back 3.

Wish he used that pace a bit more, needs to jump out and keep defences guessing like Korisau and Cook do

Really? I think Jacob Liddle is every bit as good as Koroisau and Cook; both of them are flat track bullies. Nothing more.

The good thing as well is that Liddle has been injury free since his return

If he stays injury free he is only going to get fitter and stronger ..his best is in front of him and some good offers will come ..i getting the feeling the club might be putting there eggs in the wrong basket.

100% agree. He is only going to get better. Has the right never give up attitude (you can’t coach that). I hope the club sees what he is doing.

hope he shows the same loyalty 2 the club as they did 2 him,in clubs favour of course,1 yr deal is ok

 

[mike]

I have to admit. After 5 rounds, I thought Liddle was rubbish (he was) and I wanted Simpkin in there. Sinpkin started well but then fell away..


I think Liddle has been better than Simpkin in recent weeks. but not by much. If we could only keep one, I;d keep Simpkin because of age and lack of injury history. I dont think there is much between them, and right now neither is exciting.

I think Liddle has a better attitude of the two.


By much?

A lot, yeah

 

[the_third]

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/05/23/vb-hard-earned-effort-rd-11-vs-warriors/

It was fantastic to see Liddle run down RTS when he made a break. He looked surprisingly fast.

All we need from the hooker is fast accurate passing from dummy half and to sometimes run and sometimes get it to Brooks on quick play the balls.

A dominant/controlling hooker like Hodgson or Cam Smith changes the whole roster, you spend less on halves, more on forwards and the back 3.

Wish he used that pace a bit more, needs to jump out and keep defences guessing like Korisau and Cook do

Really? I think Jacob Liddle is every bit as good as Koroisau and Cook; both of them are flat track bullies. Nothing more.

The good thing as well is that Liddle has been injury free since his return

If he stays injury free he is only going to get fitter and stronger ..his best is in front of him and some good offers will come ..i getting the feeling the club might be putting there eggs in the wrong basket.

100% agree. He is only going to get better. Has the right never give up attitude (you can’t coach that). I hope the club sees what he is doing.

wasn't there a story about Madge putting him in the coaches box while recovering because he was such a student of the game?