Liddle

@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372163) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372006) said:
@851 said in [Liddle](/post/1371988) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1371979) said:
I am more worried about the Club having any loyalty to him.

Love your passion Russ, but the club have shown this kid more than enough loyalty, any other club would have cut him loose years back with his injury record, not re-signed him like they did

Loyalty works both ways - they have to give him the opportunity to show loyalty back.

He only has maybe 7-8 years left, he has to look after himself - a lousy 1 year is a joke. If they can't see he is the best DH in the club at the moment they don't deserve him. Would think Robbo is keeping an eye.

more like robbo will be keeping an eye on simpkin

Yes, you maybe right - he likes the way he stands with hands on hips instead of defending. Says he'll be good in the Rorters RMC.
 
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372366) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372163) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372006) said:
@851 said in [Liddle](/post/1371988) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1371979) said:
I am more worried about the Club having any loyalty to him.

Love your passion Russ, but the club have shown this kid more than enough loyalty, any other club would have cut him loose years back with his injury record, not re-signed him like they did

Loyalty works both ways - they have to give him the opportunity to show loyalty back.

He only has maybe 7-8 years left, he has to look after himself - a lousy 1 year is a joke. If they can't see he is the best DH in the club at the moment they don't deserve him. Would think Robbo is keeping an eye.

more like robbo will be keeping an eye on simpkin

Yes, you maybe right - he likes the way he stands with hands on hips instead of defending. Says he'll be good in the Rorters RMC.

oh Russell you are loyal to Liddle good on you.
let's see Simpkin's career after 50 games before we claim he is not in Liddles class
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372392) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372366) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372163) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372006) said:
@851 said in [Liddle](/post/1371988) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1371979) said:
I am more worried about the Club having any loyalty to him.

Love your passion Russ, but the club have shown this kid more than enough loyalty, any other club would have cut him loose years back with his injury record, not re-signed him like they did

Loyalty works both ways - they have to give him the opportunity to show loyalty back.

He only has maybe 7-8 years left, he has to look after himself - a lousy 1 year is a joke. If they can't see he is the best DH in the club at the moment they don't deserve him. Would think Robbo is keeping an eye.

more like robbo will be keeping an eye on simpkin

Yes, you maybe right - he likes the way he stands with hands on hips instead of defending. Says he'll be good in the Rorters RMC.

oh Russell you are loyal to Liddle good on you.
let's see Simpkin's career after 50 games before we claim he is not in Liddles class

Yes exactly not a massive difference between the two now let’s see in a couple of years , not sure why people have to have a crack at rookies
 
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372366) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372163) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372006) said:
@851 said in [Liddle](/post/1371988) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1371979) said:
I am more worried about the Club having any loyalty to him.

Love your passion Russ, but the club have shown this kid more than enough loyalty, any other club would have cut him loose years back with his injury record, not re-signed him like they did

Loyalty works both ways - they have to give him the opportunity to show loyalty back.

He only has maybe 7-8 years left, he has to look after himself - a lousy 1 year is a joke. If they can't see he is the best DH in the club at the moment they don't deserve him. Would think Robbo is keeping an eye.

more like robbo will be keeping an eye on simpkin

Yes, you maybe right - he likes the way he stands with hands on hips instead of defending. Says he'll be good in the Rorters RMC.

Russ in my honest opinion.Liddle has had a fair bit of NRL experience compared to Simpkin,even though his development was halted through injury,he was touted the heir to Robbies throne...
Simpkin was signed because they saw huge potential in the kid....The club should be glad they have both these players,they both are talented and Simpkin is still learning his trade,Liddle will only get better at his in the not to distant future....
 
I would like to see Robbie working on their kicking game. The side with AD in the centres is the best its looked in ages, and with Hastings coming and finding 3 quick backs for next year, i think both Liddle and Simkin will be top notch.
 
@truetiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372400) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372366) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372163) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372006) said:
@851 said in [Liddle](/post/1371988) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1371979) said:
I am more worried about the Club having any loyalty to him.

Love your passion Russ, but the club have shown this kid more than enough loyalty, any other club would have cut him loose years back with his injury record, not re-signed him like they did

Loyalty works both ways - they have to give him the opportunity to show loyalty back.

He only has maybe 7-8 years left, he has to look after himself - a lousy 1 year is a joke. If they can't see he is the best DH in the club at the moment they don't deserve him. Would think Robbo is keeping an eye.

more like robbo will be keeping an eye on simpkin

Yes, you maybe right - he likes the way he stands with hands on hips instead of defending. Says he'll be good in the Rorters RMC.

Russ in my honest opinion.Liddle has had a fair bit of NRL experience compared to Simpkin,even though his development was halted through injury,he was touted the heir to Robbies throne...
Simpkin was signed because they saw huge potential in the kid....The club should be glad they have both these players,they both are talented and Simpkin is still learning his trade,Liddle will only get better at his in the not to distant future....

TT it is my turn.

I sat back for a month and watched Simpkin very closely and I would say impartially. Many and I say many raved on for weeks when Liddle played the first five games of the season and rubbished him, "his defence is terrible," "his passing is very slow," "he is quick but doesn't run from DH," "He can't play 80 min," "he is injury prone" and so on and so on.

"Simpkin needs to be given a chance," "he's the next Harry Grant," "the kids a star," "won't be long before he is a SOO hooker," "this guy has been ripping it up in Reggies, needs to be in the NRL instead of Liddle" and so on and so on.

Well, from what I saw (don't care if he played 3 games or 50 in the NRL or how old he is 19 as opposed to the ancient Liddle at 24), and I am judging him NOW - not after 50 games, because people want him in the team NOW, not in 50 games time.

Verdict - currently he is not as good as Liddle, he has too many things to work on, to even be on the bench. Standing around with hands on his hips after passing the ball from DH and watching play and then just jogging to the PTB after the next one is not on. Hogging the ball and going himself, when there was an overlap and we could have scored had the ball gone through the hands. Invariably choosing the wrong option at DH is frustrating to other players to say the least. Defence is very ordinary. loves being third man in to up the figures.

Yes he was signed because he had potential. he hasn't reached anywhere near NRL level AT THIS POINT, needs to learn his trade first, before applying same trade in the NRL. (The NRL is not a pre-school).

Yes I defend Liddle - he needs someone to speak up for him, even though his game does that for him.

I don't think he deserves to have his chance taken away from him by some kid "wet behind the ears" that is not ready for the NRL.

Maybe he will be the next Cameron Smith (why stop at Harry Grant) - However, he is NOT at the moment and the team plays currently with a lot more cohesion when Liddle is at DH.
 
We have Liddle and Simkin this year and i sincerely hope we have both for at least another 2 years.ATM Liddle is the more reliable of the 2 and hooker is probably the only area i feel comfortable in as far as our players are concerned.
Both are fairly young with room to improve and as our pack gains more experience will only give either of them a more solid base to build from.I hope Liddle gets a contact extension until the end of 2023
 
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372442) said:
@truetiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372400) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372366) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372163) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372006) said:
@851 said in [Liddle](/post/1371988) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1371979) said:
I am more worried about the Club having any loyalty to him.

Love your passion Russ, but the club have shown this kid more than enough loyalty, any other club would have cut him loose years back with his injury record, not re-signed him like they did

Loyalty works both ways - they have to give him the opportunity to show loyalty back.

He only has maybe 7-8 years left, he has to look after himself - a lousy 1 year is a joke. If they can't see he is the best DH in the club at the moment they don't deserve him. Would think Robbo is keeping an eye.

more like robbo will be keeping an eye on simpkin

Yes, you maybe right - he likes the way he stands with hands on hips instead of defending. Says he'll be good in the Rorters RMC.

Russ in my honest opinion.Liddle has had a fair bit of NRL experience compared to Simpkin,even though his development was halted through injury,he was touted the heir to Robbies throne...
Simpkin was signed because they saw huge potential in the kid....The club should be glad they have both these players,they both are talented and Simpkin is still learning his trade,Liddle will only get better at his in the not to distant future....

TT it is my turn.

I sat back for a month and watched Simpkin very closely and I would say impartially. Many and I say many raved on for weeks when Liddle played the first five games of the season and rubbished him, "his defence is terrible," "his passing is very slow," "he is quick but doesn't run from DH," "He can't play 80 min," "he is injury prone" and so on and so on.

"Simpkin needs to be given a chance," "he's the next Harry Grant," "the kids a star," "won't be long before he is a SOO hooker," "this guy has been ripping it up in Reggies, needs to be in the NRL instead of Liddle" and so on and so on.

Well, from what I saw (don't care if he played 3 games or 50 in the NRL or how old he is 19 as opposed to the ancient Liddle at 24), and I am judging him NOW - not after 50 games, because people want him in the team NOW, not in 50 games time.

Verdict - currently he is not as good as Liddle, he has too many things to work on, to even be on the bench. Standing around with hands on his hips after passing the ball from DH and watching play and then just jogging to the PTB after the next one is not on. Hogging the ball and going himself, when there was an overlap and we could have scored had the ball gone through the hands. Invariably choosing the wrong option at DH is frustrating to other players to say the least. Defence is very ordinary. loves being third man in to up the figures.

Yes he was signed because he had potential. he hasn't reached anywhere near NRL level AT THIS POINT, needs to learn his trade first, before applying same trade in the NRL. (The NRL is not a pre-school).

Yes I defend Liddle - he needs someone to speak up for him, even though his game does that for him.

I don't think he deserves to have his chance taken away from him by some kid "wet behind the ears" that is not ready for the NRL.

Maybe he will be the next Cameron Smith (why stop at Harry Grant) - However, he is NOT at the moment and the team plays currently with a lot more cohesion when Liddle is at DH.

Good assessment
 
@mike said in [Liddle](/post/1372450) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372442) said:
@truetiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372400) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372366) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372163) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372006) said:
@851 said in [Liddle](/post/1371988) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1371979) said:
I am more worried about the Club having any loyalty to him.

Love your passion Russ, but the club have shown this kid more than enough loyalty, any other club would have cut him loose years back with his injury record, not re-signed him like they did

Loyalty works both ways - they have to give him the opportunity to show loyalty back.

He only has maybe 7-8 years left, he has to look after himself - a lousy 1 year is a joke. If they can't see he is the best DH in the club at the moment they don't deserve him. Would think Robbo is keeping an eye.

more like robbo will be keeping an eye on simpkin

Yes, you maybe right - he likes the way he stands with hands on hips instead of defending. Says he'll be good in the Rorters RMC.

Russ in my honest opinion.Liddle has had a fair bit of NRL experience compared to Simpkin,even though his development was halted through injury,he was touted the heir to Robbies throne...
Simpkin was signed because they saw huge potential in the kid....The club should be glad they have both these players,they both are talented and Simpkin is still learning his trade,Liddle will only get better at his in the not to distant future....

TT it is my turn.

I sat back for a month and watched Simpkin very closely and I would say impartially. Many and I say many raved on for weeks when Liddle played the first five games of the season and rubbished him, "his defence is terrible," "his passing is very slow," "he is quick but doesn't run from DH," "He can't play 80 min," "he is injury prone" and so on and so on.

"Simpkin needs to be given a chance," "he's the next Harry Grant," "the kids a star," "won't be long before he is a SOO hooker," "this guy has been ripping it up in Reggies, needs to be in the NRL instead of Liddle" and so on and so on.

Well, from what I saw (don't care if he played 3 games or 50 in the NRL or how old he is 19 as opposed to the ancient Liddle at 24), and I am judging him NOW - not after 50 games, because people want him in the team NOW, not in 50 games time.

Verdict - currently he is not as good as Liddle, he has too many things to work on, to even be on the bench. Standing around with hands on his hips after passing the ball from DH and watching play and then just jogging to the PTB after the next one is not on. Hogging the ball and going himself, when there was an overlap and we could have scored had the ball gone through the hands. Invariably choosing the wrong option at DH is frustrating to other players to say the least. Defence is very ordinary. loves being third man in to up the figures.

Yes he was signed because he had potential. he hasn't reached anywhere near NRL level AT THIS POINT, needs to learn his trade first, before applying same trade in the NRL. (The NRL is not a pre-school).

Yes I defend Liddle - he needs someone to speak up for him, even though his game does that for him.

I don't think he deserves to have his chance taken away from him by some kid "wet behind the ears" that is not ready for the NRL.

Maybe he will be the next Cameron Smith (why stop at Harry Grant) - However, he is NOT at the moment and the team plays currently with a lot more cohesion when Liddle is at DH.

Good assessment
Ole Russell and Mike Liddle at it again
 
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372442) said:
@truetiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372400) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372366) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372163) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372006) said:
@851 said in [Liddle](/post/1371988) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1371979) said:
I am more worried about the Club having any loyalty to him.

Love your passion Russ, but the club have shown this kid more than enough loyalty, any other club would have cut him loose years back with his injury record, not re-signed him like they did

Loyalty works both ways - they have to give him the opportunity to show loyalty back.

He only has maybe 7-8 years left, he has to look after himself - a lousy 1 year is a joke. If they can't see he is the best DH in the club at the moment they don't deserve him. Would think Robbo is keeping an eye.

more like robbo will be keeping an eye on simpkin

Yes, you maybe right - he likes the way he stands with hands on hips instead of defending. Says he'll be good in the Rorters RMC.

Russ in my honest opinion.Liddle has had a fair bit of NRL experience compared to Simpkin,even though his development was halted through injury,he was touted the heir to Robbies throne...
Simpkin was signed because they saw huge potential in the kid....The club should be glad they have both these players,they both are talented and Simpkin is still learning his trade,Liddle will only get better at his in the not to distant future....

TT it is my turn.

I sat back for a month and watched Simpkin very closely and I would say impartially. Many and I say many raved on for weeks when Liddle played the first five games of the season and rubbished him, "his defence is terrible," "his passing is very slow," "he is quick but doesn't run from DH," "He can't play 80 min," "he is injury prone" and so on and so on.

"Simpkin needs to be given a chance," "he's the next Harry Grant," "the kids a star," "won't be long before he is a SOO hooker," "this guy has been ripping it up in Reggies, needs to be in the NRL instead of Liddle" and so on and so on.

Well, from what I saw (don't care if he played 3 games or 50 in the NRL or how old he is 19 as opposed to the ancient Liddle at 24), and I am judging him NOW - not after 50 games, because people want him in the team NOW, not in 50 games time.

Verdict - currently he is not as good as Liddle, he has too many things to work on, to even be on the bench. Standing around with hands on his hips after passing the ball from DH and watching play and then just jogging to the PTB after the next one is not on. Hogging the ball and going himself, when there was an overlap and we could have scored had the ball gone through the hands. Invariably choosing the wrong option at DH is frustrating to other players to say the least. Defence is very ordinary. loves being third man in to up the figures.

Yes he was signed because he had potential. he hasn't reached anywhere near NRL level AT THIS POINT, needs to learn his trade first, before applying same trade in the NRL. (The NRL is not a pre-school).

Yes I defend Liddle - he needs someone to speak up for him, even though his game does that for him.

I don't think he deserves to have his chance taken away from him by some kid "wet behind the ears" that is not ready for the NRL.

Maybe he will be the next Cameron Smith (why stop at Harry Grant) - However, he is NOT at the moment and the team plays currently with a lot more cohesion when Liddle is at DH.

At this point Im with Russell much
prefer Liddle. Great attitude and for me atm that is almost as important as ability.
 
Why is Liddle not re-signed? Surely with the patience the club has shown he's not looking at getting more money elsewhere?
 
@upthetigers said in [Liddle](/post/1372478) said:
Why is Liddle not re-signed? Surely with the patience the club has shown he's not looking at getting more money elsewhere?

It could be the club has not offered him a contract....?
 
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372442) said:
@truetiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372400) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372366) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372163) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372006) said:
@851 said in [Liddle](/post/1371988) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1371979) said:
I am more worried about the Club having any loyalty to him.

Love your passion Russ, but the club have shown this kid more than enough loyalty, any other club would have cut him loose years back with his injury record, not re-signed him like they did

Loyalty works both ways - they have to give him the opportunity to show loyalty back.

He only has maybe 7-8 years left, he has to look after himself - a lousy 1 year is a joke. If they can't see he is the best DH in the club at the moment they don't deserve him. Would think Robbo is keeping an eye.

more like robbo will be keeping an eye on simpkin

Yes, you maybe right - he likes the way he stands with hands on hips instead of defending. Says he'll be good in the Rorters RMC.

Russ in my honest opinion.Liddle has had a fair bit of NRL experience compared to Simpkin,even though his development was halted through injury,he was touted the heir to Robbies throne...
Simpkin was signed because they saw huge potential in the kid....The club should be glad they have both these players,they both are talented and Simpkin is still learning his trade,Liddle will only get better at his in the not to distant future....

TT it is my turn.

I sat back for a month and watched Simpkin very closely and I would say impartially. Many and I say many raved on for weeks when Liddle played the first five games of the season and rubbished him, "his defence is terrible," "his passing is very slow," "he is quick but doesn't run from DH," "He can't play 80 min," "he is injury prone" and so on and so on.

"Simpkin needs to be given a chance," "he's the next Harry Grant," "the kids a star," "won't be long before he is a SOO hooker," "this guy has been ripping it up in Reggies, needs to be in the NRL instead of Liddle" and so on and so on.

Well, from what I saw (don't care if he played 3 games or 50 in the NRL or how old he is 19 as opposed to the ancient Liddle at 24), and I am judging him NOW - not after 50 games, because people want him in the team NOW, not in 50 games time.

Verdict - currently he is not as good as Liddle, he has too many things to work on, to even be on the bench. Standing around with hands on his hips after passing the ball from DH and watching play and then just jogging to the PTB after the next one is not on. Hogging the ball and going himself, when there was an overlap and we could have scored had the ball gone through the hands. Invariably choosing the wrong option at DH is frustrating to other players to say the least. Defence is very ordinary. loves being third man in to up the figures.

Yes he was signed because he had potential. he hasn't reached anywhere near NRL level AT THIS POINT, needs to learn his trade first, before applying same trade in the NRL. (The NRL is not a pre-school).

Yes I defend Liddle - he needs someone to speak up for him, even though his game does that for him.

I don't think he deserves to have his chance taken away from him by some kid "wet behind the ears" that is not ready for the NRL.

Maybe he will be the next Cameron Smith (why stop at Harry Grant) - However, he is NOT at the moment and the team plays currently with a lot more cohesion when Liddle is at DH.

liddle has had 50 games to prove himself
he has had his chance, 5 years of chances
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372737) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372442) said:
@truetiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372400) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372366) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372163) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372006) said:
@851 said in [Liddle](/post/1371988) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1371979) said:
I am more worried about the Club having any loyalty to him.

Love your passion Russ, but the club have shown this kid more than enough loyalty, any other club would have cut him loose years back with his injury record, not re-signed him like they did

Loyalty works both ways - they have to give him the opportunity to show loyalty back.

He only has maybe 7-8 years left, he has to look after himself - a lousy 1 year is a joke. If they can't see he is the best DH in the club at the moment they don't deserve him. Would think Robbo is keeping an eye.

more like robbo will be keeping an eye on simpkin

Yes, you maybe right - he likes the way he stands with hands on hips instead of defending. Says he'll be good in the Rorters RMC.

Russ in my honest opinion.Liddle has had a fair bit of NRL experience compared to Simpkin,even though his development was halted through injury,he was touted the heir to Robbies throne...
Simpkin was signed because they saw huge potential in the kid....The club should be glad they have both these players,they both are talented and Simpkin is still learning his trade,Liddle will only get better at his in the not to distant future....

TT it is my turn.

I sat back for a month and watched Simpkin very closely and I would say impartially. Many and I say many raved on for weeks when Liddle played the first five games of the season and rubbished him, "his defence is terrible," "his passing is very slow," "he is quick but doesn't run from DH," "He can't play 80 min," "he is injury prone" and so on and so on.

"Simpkin needs to be given a chance," "he's the next Harry Grant," "the kids a star," "won't be long before he is a SOO hooker," "this guy has been ripping it up in Reggies, needs to be in the NRL instead of Liddle" and so on and so on.

Well, from what I saw (don't care if he played 3 games or 50 in the NRL or how old he is 19 as opposed to the ancient Liddle at 24), and I am judging him NOW - not after 50 games, because people want him in the team NOW, not in 50 games time.

Verdict - currently he is not as good as Liddle, he has too many things to work on, to even be on the bench. Standing around with hands on his hips after passing the ball from DH and watching play and then just jogging to the PTB after the next one is not on. Hogging the ball and going himself, when there was an overlap and we could have scored had the ball gone through the hands. Invariably choosing the wrong option at DH is frustrating to other players to say the least. Defence is very ordinary. loves being third man in to up the figures.

Yes he was signed because he had potential. he hasn't reached anywhere near NRL level AT THIS POINT, needs to learn his trade first, before applying same trade in the NRL. (The NRL is not a pre-school).

Yes I defend Liddle - he needs someone to speak up for him, even though his game does that for him.

I don't think he deserves to have his chance taken away from him by some kid "wet behind the ears" that is not ready for the NRL.

Maybe he will be the next Cameron Smith (why stop at Harry Grant) - However, he is NOT at the moment and the team plays currently with a lot more cohesion when Liddle is at DH.

liddle has had 50 games to prove himself
he has had his chance, 5 years of chances

And now he’s injury and playing good footy. What’s your point?
 
@tigerap said in [Liddle](/post/1372484) said:
@upthetigers said in [Liddle](/post/1372478) said:
Why is Liddle not re-signed? Surely with the patience the club has shown he's not looking at getting more money elsewhere?

It could be the club has not offered him a contract....?

didn't wests tigers for him a year, if he is as good as Russ says he should back himself to get a starting gig at another team then on good coin.
Simpkin is signed for the future and he needs experience
 
@gnr4life said in [Liddle](/post/1372739) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372737) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372442) said:
@truetiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372400) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372366) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372163) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372006) said:
@851 said in [Liddle](/post/1371988) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1371979) said:
I am more worried about the Club having any loyalty to him.

Love your passion Russ, but the club have shown this kid more than enough loyalty, any other club would have cut him loose years back with his injury record, not re-signed him like they did

Loyalty works both ways - they have to give him the opportunity to show loyalty back.

He only has maybe 7-8 years left, he has to look after himself - a lousy 1 year is a joke. If they can't see he is the best DH in the club at the moment they don't deserve him. Would think Robbo is keeping an eye.

more like robbo will be keeping an eye on simpkin

Yes, you maybe right - he likes the way he stands with hands on hips instead of defending. Says he'll be good in the Rorters RMC.

Russ in my honest opinion.Liddle has had a fair bit of NRL experience compared to Simpkin,even though his development was halted through injury,he was touted the heir to Robbies throne...
Simpkin was signed because they saw huge potential in the kid....The club should be glad they have both these players,they both are talented and Simpkin is still learning his trade,Liddle will only get better at his in the not to distant future....

TT it is my turn.

I sat back for a month and watched Simpkin very closely and I would say impartially. Many and I say many raved on for weeks when Liddle played the first five games of the season and rubbished him, "his defence is terrible," "his passing is very slow," "he is quick but doesn't run from DH," "He can't play 80 min," "he is injury prone" and so on and so on.

"Simpkin needs to be given a chance," "he's the next Harry Grant," "the kids a star," "won't be long before he is a SOO hooker," "this guy has been ripping it up in Reggies, needs to be in the NRL instead of Liddle" and so on and so on.

Well, from what I saw (don't care if he played 3 games or 50 in the NRL or how old he is 19 as opposed to the ancient Liddle at 24), and I am judging him NOW - not after 50 games, because people want him in the team NOW, not in 50 games time.

Verdict - currently he is not as good as Liddle, he has too many things to work on, to even be on the bench. Standing around with hands on his hips after passing the ball from DH and watching play and then just jogging to the PTB after the next one is not on. Hogging the ball and going himself, when there was an overlap and we could have scored had the ball gone through the hands. Invariably choosing the wrong option at DH is frustrating to other players to say the least. Defence is very ordinary. loves being third man in to up the figures.

Yes he was signed because he had potential. he hasn't reached anywhere near NRL level AT THIS POINT, needs to learn his trade first, before applying same trade in the NRL. (The NRL is not a pre-school).

Yes I defend Liddle - he needs someone to speak up for him, even though his game does that for him.

I don't think he deserves to have his chance taken away from him by some kid "wet behind the ears" that is not ready for the NRL.

Maybe he will be the next Cameron Smith (why stop at Harry Grant) - However, he is NOT at the moment and the team plays currently with a lot more cohesion when Liddle is at DH.

liddle has had 50 games to prove himself
he has had his chance, 5 years of chances

And now he’s injury and playing good footy. What’s your point?

not good enough for a long term deal ???
if he is signed up for 2 or more years then play him ahead of simpkin, don't see the point of not giving simpkin game time if he is signed for 2 years.

On another note good to see Roberts on the wing finally
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372742) said:
@gnr4life said in [Liddle](/post/1372739) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372737) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372442) said:
@truetiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372400) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372366) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372163) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372006) said:
@851 said in [Liddle](/post/1371988) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1371979) said:
I am more worried about the Club having any loyalty to him.

Love your passion Russ, but the club have shown this kid more than enough loyalty, any other club would have cut him loose years back with his injury record, not re-signed him like they did

Loyalty works both ways - they have to give him the opportunity to show loyalty back.

He only has maybe 7-8 years left, he has to look after himself - a lousy 1 year is a joke. If they can't see he is the best DH in the club at the moment they don't deserve him. Would think Robbo is keeping an eye.

more like robbo will be keeping an eye on simpkin

Yes, you maybe right - he likes the way he stands with hands on hips instead of defending. Says he'll be good in the Rorters RMC.

Russ in my honest opinion.Liddle has had a fair bit of NRL experience compared to Simpkin,even though his development was halted through injury,he was touted the heir to Robbies throne...
Simpkin was signed because they saw huge potential in the kid....The club should be glad they have both these players,they both are talented and Simpkin is still learning his trade,Liddle will only get better at his in the not to distant future....

TT it is my turn.

I sat back for a month and watched Simpkin very closely and I would say impartially. Many and I say many raved on for weeks when Liddle played the first five games of the season and rubbished him, "his defence is terrible," "his passing is very slow," "he is quick but doesn't run from DH," "He can't play 80 min," "he is injury prone" and so on and so on.

"Simpkin needs to be given a chance," "he's the next Harry Grant," "the kids a star," "won't be long before he is a SOO hooker," "this guy has been ripping it up in Reggies, needs to be in the NRL instead of Liddle" and so on and so on.

Well, from what I saw (don't care if he played 3 games or 50 in the NRL or how old he is 19 as opposed to the ancient Liddle at 24), and I am judging him NOW - not after 50 games, because people want him in the team NOW, not in 50 games time.

Verdict - currently he is not as good as Liddle, he has too many things to work on, to even be on the bench. Standing around with hands on his hips after passing the ball from DH and watching play and then just jogging to the PTB after the next one is not on. Hogging the ball and going himself, when there was an overlap and we could have scored had the ball gone through the hands. Invariably choosing the wrong option at DH is frustrating to other players to say the least. Defence is very ordinary. loves being third man in to up the figures.

Yes he was signed because he had potential. he hasn't reached anywhere near NRL level AT THIS POINT, needs to learn his trade first, before applying same trade in the NRL. (The NRL is not a pre-school).

Yes I defend Liddle - he needs someone to speak up for him, even though his game does that for him.

I don't think he deserves to have his chance taken away from him by some kid "wet behind the ears" that is not ready for the NRL.

Maybe he will be the next Cameron Smith (why stop at Harry Grant) - However, he is NOT at the moment and the team plays currently with a lot more cohesion when Liddle is at DH.

liddle has had 50 games to prove himself
he has had his chance, 5 years of chances

And now he’s injury and playing good footy. What’s your point?

not good enough for a long term deal ???
if he is signed up for 2 or more years then play him ahead of simpkin, don't see the point of not giving simpkin game time if he is signed for 2 years.

On another note good to see Roberts on the wing finally

It’s up to him and the club to decide on the length. Given what we’ve seen from Simpkin early on, there’s no guarantee he’d be starting ahead of Liddle next year.
 
@gnr4life said in [Liddle](/post/1372744) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372742) said:
@gnr4life said in [Liddle](/post/1372739) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372737) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372442) said:
@truetiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372400) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372366) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372163) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372006) said:
@851 said in [Liddle](/post/1371988) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1371979) said:
I am more worried about the Club having any loyalty to him.

Love your passion Russ, but the club have shown this kid more than enough loyalty, any other club would have cut him loose years back with his injury record, not re-signed him like they did

Loyalty works both ways - they have to give him the opportunity to show loyalty back.

He only has maybe 7-8 years left, he has to look after himself - a lousy 1 year is a joke. If they can't see he is the best DH in the club at the moment they don't deserve him. Would think Robbo is keeping an eye.

more like robbo will be keeping an eye on simpkin

Yes, you maybe right - he likes the way he stands with hands on hips instead of defending. Says he'll be good in the Rorters RMC.

Russ in my honest opinion.Liddle has had a fair bit of NRL experience compared to Simpkin,even though his development was halted through injury,he was touted the heir to Robbies throne...
Simpkin was signed because they saw huge potential in the kid....The club should be glad they have both these players,they both are talented and Simpkin is still learning his trade,Liddle will only get better at his in the not to distant future....

TT it is my turn.

I sat back for a month and watched Simpkin very closely and I would say impartially. Many and I say many raved on for weeks when Liddle played the first five games of the season and rubbished him, "his defence is terrible," "his passing is very slow," "he is quick but doesn't run from DH," "He can't play 80 min," "he is injury prone" and so on and so on.

"Simpkin needs to be given a chance," "he's the next Harry Grant," "the kids a star," "won't be long before he is a SOO hooker," "this guy has been ripping it up in Reggies, needs to be in the NRL instead of Liddle" and so on and so on.

Well, from what I saw (don't care if he played 3 games or 50 in the NRL or how old he is 19 as opposed to the ancient Liddle at 24), and I am judging him NOW - not after 50 games, because people want him in the team NOW, not in 50 games time.

Verdict - currently he is not as good as Liddle, he has too many things to work on, to even be on the bench. Standing around with hands on his hips after passing the ball from DH and watching play and then just jogging to the PTB after the next one is not on. Hogging the ball and going himself, when there was an overlap and we could have scored had the ball gone through the hands. Invariably choosing the wrong option at DH is frustrating to other players to say the least. Defence is very ordinary. loves being third man in to up the figures.

Yes he was signed because he had potential. he hasn't reached anywhere near NRL level AT THIS POINT, needs to learn his trade first, before applying same trade in the NRL. (The NRL is not a pre-school).

Yes I defend Liddle - he needs someone to speak up for him, even though his game does that for him.

I don't think he deserves to have his chance taken away from him by some kid "wet behind the ears" that is not ready for the NRL.

Maybe he will be the next Cameron Smith (why stop at Harry Grant) - However, he is NOT at the moment and the team plays currently with a lot more cohesion when Liddle is at DH.

liddle has had 50 games to prove himself
he has had his chance, 5 years of chances

And now he’s injury and playing good footy. What’s your point?

not good enough for a long term deal ???
if he is signed up for 2 or more years then play him ahead of simpkin, don't see the point of not giving simpkin game time if he is signed for 2 years.

On another note good to see Roberts on the wing finally

It’s up to him and the club to decide on the length. Given what we’ve seen from Simpkin early on, there’s no guarantee he’d be starting ahead of Liddle next year.

you might be right re next year if simpkin doesn't get game time
I guess we need to wait and see what the offer is apparently we have put one year to liddle which I think is ordinary, if we are signing him then sign him for 2 years at least one year is a slap in the face
 
Simpkin signed a 4 year contract extension Now his performance has gone downhill, sound familiar.
 
@upthetigers said in [Liddle](/post/1372478) said:
Why is Liddle not re-signed? Surely with the patience the club has shown he's not looking at getting more money elsewhere?

Poker face Barrett most likely scheming behind the scenes to coax Liddle
 
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