Live game thread - Tigers V Cowboys

[851]

Reynolds over benji for me atm, just cause of the defense and pressure

like if he kicks on the 4th into there territory, he is usually the 1st down there to tackle the player- pinning them inside 10

Reynolds was pretty woeful.

defense wasnt bad

Hardly a glowing review of his performance

Reynolds was poor but I’d give him next week against his old club .

Honestly Hobs,we have no one better to call on except Benji and Grub for the 5/8 position,JR hasn't played for ages and Benji is a defensive liability...at least Brooks is playing better in the last 2 weeks with JR in the side,Mbye was another who was bad mouthed by many on here and he played very well against the Cows...he is getting better every week now he is over his injury...
the old saying is you can please some of the people some of the time but you cant please all the people all the time..

I have said it for 2 years, Brooks will play better with Benji out of the team, we need to move forward not back

 

[JD Tiger]

My biggest issue with Reynolds, is things like when Brooks was tackled and played the ball on the 5th tackle during the 1st half. We had 2 forwards put on a play on the last, this is when you need your 2nd playmaker and most experienced player to step in and demand the ball. These sorts of things happen too often with Reynolds, he is not there when he should be, if it was a one off then fair enough but it is not a one off.

I saw Brooks get tackled three times on the 5th, leaving the sixth play tackle option up to someone else.
I really think we need a half that can manage the game, even the sixth play, because it's not Brooks specialty.

 

[cochise]

My biggest issue with Reynolds, is things like when Brooks was tackled and played the ball on the 5th tackle during the 1st half. We had 2 forwards put on a play on the last, this is when you need your 2nd playmaker and most experienced player to step in and demand the ball. These sorts of things happen too often with Reynolds, he is not there when he should be, if it was a one off then fair enough but it is not a one off.

I saw Brooks get tackled three times on the 5th, leaving the sixth play tackle option up to someone else.
I really think we need a half that can manage the game, even the sixth play, because it's not Brooks specialty.

It shouldn't really be an issue as we have 2 halves, the other just needs to demand the ball in that situation.

 

[Tiger5150]

My biggest issue with Reynolds, is things like when Brooks was tackled and played the ball on the 5th tackle during the 1st half. We had 2 forwards put on a play on the last, this is when you need your 2nd playmaker and most experienced player to step in and demand the ball. These sorts of things happen too often with Reynolds, he is not there when he should be, if it was a one off then fair enough but it is not a one off.

I saw Brooks get tackled three times on the 5th, leaving the sixth play tackle option up to someone else.
I really think we need a half that can manage the game, even the sixth play, because it's not Brooks specialty.

Like Reynolds who TWICE passed it to a prop on the 6th? (lucky on the first that the Cowboys couldbt believe it).

 

[Russell]

Let’s be real tho we lost our most consistent forward and a winger

Well, most consistent forward anyway.

Russ I know how fond you are of Jennings as a player,but last night he was doing rather well than some of his previous displays..

I know, all credit to him. He was only sub standard, instead of pathetic.

You say that but I’m sure when he took the pass and ran to the try line like a runaway freight train you were jumping up and down and screaming with excitement.

So you say, Avo.

 

[Russell]

Let’s be real tho we lost our most consistent forward and a winger

Well, most consistent forward anyway.

Russ I know how fond you are of Jennings as a player,but last night he was doing rather well than some of his previous displays..

I know, all credit to him. He was only sub standard, instead of pathetic.

Didn’t do a thing wrong until his injury. I know you don’t like the bloke but cmon now ?

Scored a try, I know, but once again no one in front of him and then he injured himself without any one touching him.

When Mbye made the break following Nofo's brilliant pass, he had Lucy backing up on the ouside (he dummied to him), had Brooks backing up on the inside (he passed to him) and he scored.

Point being....Where was the "Bludger"?

I'll tell you!!!!! Jogging along behind the play..."He is kidding isn't he?"

If he wasn't injured you would drop him for that alone!

Whilst he was on the field, he did no more than be average - I am not going to give him a wrap for being sub standard or at a real stretch average.

When Mbye made the break Jennings stopped for a pie ?

If he had of supported he may have got a meat pie, instead Brooks got it.

He’s a garbage player ..
Slower than a wet week
Turning circle of a cruise ship
Runs 6 meters in 3 years and blows a hammy ?

He’s not that bad. He got in a good position to score the try. He’s a big boy and can find the try line

If Madge persists on playing him he needs to be in the forwards .
Not fast or athletic enough to be a winger.

Yes, in the forwards for cc - should be able to score tries at the moment as there is no opposition.

 

[hobbo1]

Let’s be real tho we lost our most consistent forward and a winger

Well, most consistent forward anyway.

Russ I know how fond you are of Jennings as a player,but last night he was doing rather well than some of his previous displays..

I know, all credit to him. He was only sub standard, instead of pathetic.

You say that but I’m sure when he took the pass and ran to the try line like a runaway freight train you were jumping up and down and screaming with excitement.

Not sure about a runaway freight train ?

Jennings had a clear run and thought he’d do a Superman put down ..
Instead he landed like a Hercules with the landing gear still up ?

 

[balmain boy]

My biggest issue with Reynolds, is things like when Brooks was tackled and played the ball on the 5th tackle during the 1st half. We had 2 forwards put on a play on the last, this is when you need your 2nd playmaker and most experienced player to step in and demand the ball. These sorts of things happen too often with Reynolds, he is not there when he should be, if it was a one off then fair enough but it is not a one off.

I saw Brooks get tackled three times on the 5th, leaving the sixth play tackle option up to someone else.
I really think we need a half that can manage the game, even the sixth play, because it's not Brooks specialty.

Yep, that's definitely something Brooks needs to get better at! Sure, if there's a big gap, tired forward etc, go for it! But sometimes he runs because he can't find a great pass, in which case he should just pass out to a forward to take the basic hitup.

He currently the only real kicker in the team. Reynolds as an emergency, and in time doueihi will chime in too but for the moment Brooks is the main man.

You can see Grant is trying to develop his kicking game, but he needs to pick and choose a bit better. Kicking a 40/20 is maybe a reach for him

 

[balmain boy]

In the end winning a game where you concede 53% possession, 70% territory, an 8-4 penalty count and set restarts about 9-5 is remarkable. Our discipline was atrocious!

Playing Mbye on the wing v Feldt was suicidal. Giving up 20cm and 20kgs. Mck definitely had to play wing to try and match Feldt physically, Mbye was doing well at centre, no need to move him.

Reynolds had a poor game last year night. Threw a bad intercept, kicked on the second when we'd barely touched the ball. Still got 2 try assists though.

Our kicking game was extremely poor. We never managed the game. Brooks just can't do it. We're exhausted and he still keeps putting up midfield bombs and chips rather than kicking to the corner to slow the game down. It's not hard it's very clear and obvious. He can kick to the corner he just doesn't. Not halfback material with management like that.

Our attack was good first half and our line defence was strong considering half the game was played on our try line. The injuries killed our combos and rotation.

Enough positives but still plenty to work on

Ah , you do realise , the mid field bomb , is not an attacking kick right ? It’s whole point is to get the defensive line right where the receiver is . To remove the kick return ? It’s actually a good tactic. When you kick to the corner , if the return is good it’s usually a legs tackle which gets the attack on the front foot .

If you kick the ball over the sideline, 5-10m out then you get a breather, a chance to reset, get the defensive line set and try halt the momentum of the other team. A midfield bomb from your own side of halfway which routinely gives the opposition the ball on their 30m line let's them keep rolling forwards and steamroll you. When you're on the back foot you need to change the momentum of the game.

 

[hodgo]

I think if you drop sezer like player next to brooks he becomes a new weapon. more a walker type player

 

[Deleted member 3518]

In the end winning a game where you concede 53% possession, 70% territory, an 8-4 penalty count and set restarts about 9-5 is remarkable. Our discipline was atrocious!

Playing Mbye on the wing v Feldt was suicidal. Giving up 20cm and 20kgs. Mck definitely had to play wing to try and match Feldt physically, Mbye was doing well at centre, no need to move him.

Reynolds had a poor game last year night. Threw a bad intercept, kicked on the second when we'd barely touched the ball. Still got 2 try assists though.

Our kicking game was extremely poor. We never managed the game. Brooks just can't do it. We're exhausted and he still keeps putting up midfield bombs and chips rather than kicking to the corner to slow the game down. It's not hard it's very clear and obvious. He can kick to the corner he just doesn't. Not halfback material with management like that.

Our attack was good first half and our line defence was strong considering half the game was played on our try line. The injuries killed our combos and rotation.

Enough positives but still plenty to work on

Ah , you do realise , the mid field bomb , is not an attacking kick right ? It’s whole point is to get the defensive line right where the receiver is . To remove the kick return ? It’s actually a good tactic. When you kick to the corner , if the return is good it’s usually a legs tackle which gets the attack on the front foot .

If you kick the ball over the sideline, 5-10m out then you get a breather, a chance to reset, get the defensive line set and try halt the momentum of the other team. A midfield bomb from your own side of halfway which routinely gives the opposition the ball on their 30m line let's them keep rolling forwards and steamroll you. When you're on the back foot you need to change the momentum of the game.

I understand your point , but the midfield bomb does the same thing . And it’s not unique to brooks . Pearce uses the crap out of it as well. The only way to kick to the corners in today’s game is to kick on the 4th , as the back 3 are all over it . I dont think it’s a bad tactic personally. The only thing it doesn’t do is grab a breather for your team . Otherwise it provides everything and more a kick to the corner does, as it doesn’t run the risk of a half decent return to a legs tackle to a quick play the ball.
But there has to be a mixture , youre right every now and then just boot it out . Help out your forwards.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

My biggest issue with Reynolds, is things like when Brooks was tackled and played the ball on the 5th tackle during the 1st half. We had 2 forwards put on a play on the last, this is when you need your 2nd playmaker and most experienced player to step in and demand the ball. These sorts of things happen too often with Reynolds, he is not there when he should be, if it was a one off then fair enough but it is not a one off.

I saw Brooks get tackled three times on the 5th, leaving the sixth play tackle option up to someone else.
I really think we need a half that can manage the game, even the sixth play, because it's not Brooks specialty.


Like Reynolds who TWICE passed it to a prop on the 6th? (lucky on the first that the Cowboys couldbt believe it).

Was it Anasta who gave it to Reynolds for not taking control when Brooks was tackled? Seems a terribly individual action to not be in position to takeover from your halves partner when he is tackled on the fifth tackle.

 

[Tiger5150]

My biggest issue with Reynolds, is things like when Brooks was tackled and played the ball on the 5th tackle during the 1st half. We had 2 forwards put on a play on the last, this is when you need your 2nd playmaker and most experienced player to step in and demand the ball. These sorts of things happen too often with Reynolds, he is not there when he should be, if it was a one off then fair enough but it is not a one off.

I saw Brooks get tackled three times on the 5th, leaving the sixth play tackle option up to someone else.
I really think we need a half that can manage the game, even the sixth play, because it's not Brooks specialty.


Like Reynolds who TWICE passed it to a prop on the 6th? (lucky on the first that the Cowboys couldbt believe it).

Was it Anasta who gave it to Reynolds for not taking control when Brooks was tackled? Seems a terribly individual action to not be in position to takeover from your halves partner when he is tackled on the fifth tackle.

Exactly. Reynolds had a terrible game. He was very lucky that our attack and their defence in the first half overrode his stupidity. He got SO lucky on that first try, Brooks was calling for it on the left and on his right he had both props and Twal on the last, and he passed to Musgrove. That thing he was doing screaming up out of the line, in our own ten was terrifying me, luckily Cowboys were so bad they couldnt capitalise on it and he stopped doing it after no doubt a prompt from Madge at half time.

 

[TheDaBoss]

Nofoluma didnt score a try did he?

 

[jirskyr]

Geez, you really have it in for our former fullback, but it did make me laugh.

Shannon Gallant? Nah he's alright.

 

[JD Tiger]

My biggest issue with Reynolds, is things like when Brooks was tackled and played the ball on the 5th tackle during the 1st half. We had 2 forwards put on a play on the last, this is when you need your 2nd playmaker and most experienced player to step in and demand the ball. These sorts of things happen too often with Reynolds, he is not there when he should be, if it was a one off then fair enough but it is not a one off.

I saw Brooks get tackled three times on the 5th, leaving the sixth play tackle option up to someone else.
I really think we need a half that can manage the game, even the sixth play, because it's not Brooks specialty.


Like Reynolds who TWICE passed it to a prop on the 6th? (lucky on the first that the Cowboys couldbt believe it).

Well that's it isn't it. I was thinking of someone to partner Brooks, because Reynolds is certainly not the answer. I still don't mind the idea of Brooks at 6, and an organiser at 7.

 

[JD Tiger]

Nofoluma didnt score a try did he?

No, dont think he did this week. Played well though.

 

[JD Tiger]

Geez, you really have it in for our former fullback, but it did make me laugh.

Shannon Gallant? Nah he's alright.

Mighty Mouse I remember him. Saw him in a Reserve Grade firing up and punching on in a game versus the Raiders. Good times.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

My biggest issue with Reynolds, is things like when Brooks was tackled and played the ball on the 5th tackle during the 1st half. We had 2 forwards put on a play on the last, this is when you need your 2nd playmaker and most experienced player to step in and demand the ball. These sorts of things happen too often with Reynolds, he is not there when he should be, if it was a one off then fair enough but it is not a one off.

I saw Brooks get tackled three times on the 5th, leaving the sixth play tackle option up to someone else.
I really think we need a half that can manage the game, even the sixth play, because it's not Brooks specialty.


Like Reynolds who TWICE passed it to a prop on the 6th? (lucky on the first that the Cowboys couldbt believe it).

Well that's it isn't it. I was thinking of someone to partner Brooks, because Reynolds is certainly not the answer. I still don't mind the idea of Brooks at 6, and an organiser at 7.

I am hoping we promote Madden as from what he has demonstrated he is a good organiser.

 

[tigerballs]

My biggest issue with Reynolds, is things like when Brooks was tackled and played the ball on the 5th tackle during the 1st half. We had 2 forwards put on a play on the last, this is when you need your 2nd playmaker and most experienced player to step in and demand the ball. These sorts of things happen too often with Reynolds, he is not there when he should be, if it was a one off then fair enough but it is not a one off.

I saw Brooks get tackled three times on the 5th, leaving the sixth play tackle option up to someone else.
I really think we need a half that can manage the game, even the sixth play, because it's not Brooks specialty.


Like Reynolds who TWICE passed it to a prop on the 6th? (lucky on the first that the Cowboys couldbt believe it).

Was it Anasta who gave it to Reynolds for not taking control when Brooks was tackled? Seems a terribly individual action to not be in position to takeover from your halves partner when he is tackled on the fifth tackle.


Exactly. Reynolds had a terrible game. He was very lucky that our attack and their defence in the first half overrode his stupidity. He got SO lucky on that first try, Brooks was calling for it on the left and on his right he had both props and Twal on the last, and he passed to Musgrove. That thing he was doing screaming up out of the line, in our own ten was terrifying me, luckily Cowboys were so bad they couldnt capitalise on it and he stopped doing it after no doubt a prompt from Madge at half time.

What I don't quite understand is we score 34 points in 40 minutes, mostly set up by Reynolds, passes and kicks, and people are still bagging him. No one even made a break through his rushing out of the line in defence, in fact the opposition didn't even score a point. Yes, he threw an intercept, only because he was trying something which, if it connected was most certainly another Tigers try. With Reynolds starting, we've won by a margin and gone awful close to last years Grand Finalist. What more do you want?
And using an Anasta observation to bag a bloke? Says it all really.