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@tiger5150 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326457) said:
@al-the-tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326434) said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvUXLXwt30Q&ab_channel=BonstonkersTigers


Just re-watched Brooks' debut video... Big difference in terms of confidence from when he had just first hit the scene to now... And he especially looks better when he was just playing off the cuff, where now he is supposed to be playing as the controlling halfback organiser which just isn't his role and all his creativity ***just ends up being used towards hopeless high bombs on the last tackle***

I see this all the time with respect to Luke Brooks. I also see "WE NEED A GAME MANAGER" and Brooks isnt one.

DO people not see what the high bombs are? They ARE game management. THe game changes all the time. The high bomb is the new kick to the corner. The kick to the corner doesnt work anymore because of the positioning of wingers. If you "kick to the corners" the winger gets the opportunity to run it 20-30m before the defence gets there. The high bomb gives the kick chase time to get through and tackle the winger/FB pretty much where and when they catch it, hopefully 10m out, pinning the opposition deep in their own line.

High bombs are effective when they are done right... You always see the premier halfbacks of the comp placing pinpoint bombs to accurately land right before the opposing tryline or beneath the 10m line. With Brooks, it's more likely to land just around the 15-25m mark with basically no kick chase from our team (not his fault, Brooks is usually the one always leading the kick chase). Not faulting Brooks for putting in the occasional high bomb, but it's come to the point where it has become so predictable and ineffective and there comes a time where you have to question where his kicking creativity went? You can clearly see he knows how to put in a decent kick off the left boot from his debut, and from pretty much all of the 2018 season where he lead the league in repeat sets and try assists off kicks but that has pretty much disappeared.
 
@al-the-tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326460) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326457) said:
@al-the-tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326434) said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvUXLXwt30Q&ab_channel=BonstonkersTigers


Just re-watched Brooks' debut video... Big difference in terms of confidence from when he had just first hit the scene to now... And he especially looks better when he was just playing off the cuff, where now he is supposed to be playing as the controlling halfback organiser which just isn't his role and all his creativity ***just ends up being used towards hopeless high bombs on the last tackle***

I see this all the time with respect to Luke Brooks. I also see "WE NEED A GAME MANAGER" and Brooks isnt one.

DO people not see what the high bombs are? They ARE game management. THe game changes all the time. The high bomb is the new kick to the corner. The kick to the corner doesnt work anymore because of the positioning of wingers. If you "kick to the corners" the winger gets the opportunity to run it 20-30m before the defence gets there. The high bomb gives the kick chase time to get through and tackle the winger/FB pretty much where and when they catch it, hopefully 10m out, pinning the opposition deep in their own line.

High bombs are effective when they are done right... You always see the premier halfbacks of the comp placing pinpoint bombs to accurately land right before the opposing tryline or beneath the 10m line. With Brooks, it's more likely to land just around the 15-25m mark with basically no kick chase from our team (not his fault, Brooks is usually the one always leading the kick chase). Not faulting Brooks for putting in the occasional high bomb, but it's come to the point where it has become so predictable and ineffective and there comes a time where you have to question where his kicking creativity went? You can clearly see he knows how to put in a decent kick off the left boot from his debut, and from pretty much all of the 2018 season where he lead the league in repeat sets and try assists off kicks but that has pretty much disappeared.


He is only high bombing from distance. He is not bombing when we are in range for a grubber for the in goal. He does seem to have put that kick away after the Roosters game though.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326457) said:
@al-the-tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326434) said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvUXLXwt30Q&ab_channel=BonstonkersTigers


Just re-watched Brooks' debut video... Big difference in terms of confidence from when he had just first hit the scene to now... And he especially looks better when he was just playing off the cuff, where now he is supposed to be playing as the controlling halfback organiser which just isn't his role and all his creativity ***just ends up being used towards hopeless high bombs on the last tackle***

I see this all the time with respect to Luke Brooks. I also see "WE NEED A GAME MANAGER" and Brooks isnt one.

DO people not see what the high bombs are? They ARE game management. THe game changes all the time. The high bomb is the new kick to the corner. The kick to the corner doesnt work anymore because of the positioning of wingers. If you "kick to the corners" the winger gets the opportunity to run it 20-30m before the defence gets there. The high bomb gives the kick chase time to get through and tackle the winger/FB pretty much where and when they catch it, hopefully 10m out, pinning the opposition deep in their own line.

If anyone seriously thinks Doeuhie is going to turn this side around, they are kidding. He will have the same problem Brooks faced. We have a decent FB, but the other 4 have shown very little in the way of attack ,and completely deviod of a game plan or cohesian in attack, our CC side would challenge them. At least we have a decent set of forwards now, which Brooks did not have, and we will get better, but the backline to be honest , is not capable of matching it with the top sides.
 
When we will start talking about Brooks replacement ...120 odd pages about someone that everyone accepts isn't going to make it as an NRL player
 
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326466) said:
When we will start talking about Brooks replacement ...120 odd pages about someone that everyone accepts isn't going to make it as an NRL player

Someone should tell Maguire 1st..
 
@geo said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326478) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326466) said:
When we will start talking about Brooks replacement ...120 odd pages about someone that everyone accepts isn't going to make it as an NRL player

Someone should tell Maguire 1st..

I did ...he said Billy is back in a few weeks ( I can't add the expletives he added in regards to Brooks )
 
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326466) said:
When we will start talking about Brooks replacement ...120 odd pages about someone that everyone accepts isn't going to make it as an NRL player

I think as soon as Reynolds extends with the Rabbits and Morgan is medically retired Cowboys package deal Brooks and Mbye for Taumalolo or Holmes 😂
 
@tiger5150 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326464) said:
@al-the-tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326460) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326457) said:
@al-the-tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326434) said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvUXLXwt30Q&ab_channel=BonstonkersTigers


Just re-watched Brooks' debut video... Big difference in terms of confidence from when he had just first hit the scene to now... And he especially looks better when he was just playing off the cuff, where now he is supposed to be playing as the controlling halfback organiser which just isn't his role and all his creativity ***just ends up being used towards hopeless high bombs on the last tackle***

I see this all the time with respect to Luke Brooks. I also see "WE NEED A GAME MANAGER" and Brooks isnt one.

DO people not see what the high bombs are? They ARE game management. THe game changes all the time. The high bomb is the new kick to the corner. The kick to the corner doesnt work anymore because of the positioning of wingers. If you "kick to the corners" the winger gets the opportunity to run it 20-30m before the defence gets there. The high bomb gives the kick chase time to get through and tackle the winger/FB pretty much where and when they catch it, hopefully 10m out, pinning the opposition deep in their own line.

High bombs are effective when they are done right... You always see the premier halfbacks of the comp placing pinpoint bombs to accurately land right before the opposing tryline or beneath the 10m line. With Brooks, it's more likely to land just around the 15-25m mark with basically no kick chase from our team (not his fault, Brooks is usually the one always leading the kick chase). Not faulting Brooks for putting in the occasional high bomb, but it's come to the point where it has become so predictable and ineffective and there comes a time where you have to question where his kicking creativity went? You can clearly see he knows how to put in a decent kick off the left boot from his debut, and from pretty much all of the 2018 season where he lead the league in repeat sets and try assists off kicks but that has pretty much disappeared.


He is only high bombing from distance. He is not bombing when we are in range for a grubber for the in goal. He does seem to have put that kick away after the Roosters game though.


That’s only because our forwards did a good job of pushing forward against the knights. He didn’t have the time against the roosters because we where getting smashed in the middle
 
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326483) said:
@geo said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326478) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326466) said:
When we will start talking about Brooks replacement ...120 odd pages about someone that everyone accepts isn't going to make it as an NRL player

Someone should tell Maguire 1st..

I did ...he said Billy is back in a few weeks ( I can't add the expletives he added in regards to Brooks )

Do you rate Billy higher because he could wear maroon one day ? I’ve noticed that a lot of your players you like tend to come from warmer climates ?
 
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326977) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326483) said:
@geo said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326478) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326466) said:
When we will start talking about Brooks replacement ...120 odd pages about someone that everyone accepts isn't going to make it as an NRL player

Someone should tell Maguire 1st..

I did ...he said Billy is back in a few weeks ( I can't add the expletives he added in regards to Brooks )

Do you rate Billy higher because he could wear maroon one day ? I’ve noticed that a lot of your players you like tend to come from warmer climates ?

I'm just baiting Geo again ...but Billy is supposedly back in 2-3 weeks

But in all reality , Brooks hasn't improved on 2020 and if this continues throughout 2021 ...he has to go at seasons end .....and if Madge can't recognize that ...he needs to go as well
 
Their has been so much talk about Mitchell Moses only playing good when Parramatta are firing and going missing in the key moments,Brooks is much the same,he can fire when the team is dominating,but if the team needs a lift he is never the player to provide it,if Luke himself makes a mistake his confidence hits an all time low and he is mentally gone for the game. His kicking game is very limited,hence the 5th tackle bomb, a good halfback needs to be able to mix up his 5th tackle options, kick to space, 40/20s or choose to run it.
 
The off-contract halves are Reynolds, Shaun Johnson, Matt Moylan, Tom Dearden, Anthony Milford, Ash Taylor, Chad Townsend and Mitchell Moses.
I think Brooks with a settled spine is as good if not better than the above list. Sure you could make a case for Reynolds or Johnson, but there’s no guarantee they would make a marked difference in WT colours.
 
@twentyforty said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1327353) said:
The off-contract halves are Reynolds, Shaun Johnson, Matt Moylan, Tom Dearden, Anthony Milford, Ash Taylor, Chad Townsend and Mitchell Moses.
I think Brooks with a settled spine is as good if not better than the above list. Sure you could make a case for Reynolds or Johnson, but there’s no guarantee they would make a marked difference in WT colours.

A few turnstiles in that lot 😂😂😂😂
 
@elderslie_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1327419) said:
@twentyforty said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1327353) said:
The off-contract halves are Reynolds, Shaun Johnson, Matt Moylan, Tom Dearden, Anthony Milford, Ash Taylor, Chad Townsend and Mitchell Moses.
I think Brooks with a settled spine is as good if not better than the above list. Sure you could make a case for Reynolds or Johnson, but there’s no guarantee they would make a marked difference in WT colours.

A few turnstiles in that lot ????

Good point! Brooks would be in the top 3 defensive 7s? Moylan has made a timely recovery from injury.
 
@twentyforty said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1327420) said:
@elderslie_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1327419) said:
@twentyforty said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1327353) said:
The off-contract halves are Reynolds, Shaun Johnson, Matt Moylan, Tom Dearden, Anthony Milford, Ash Taylor, Chad Townsend and Mitchell Moses.
I think Brooks with a settled spine is as good if not better than the above list. Sure you could make a case for Reynolds or Johnson, but there’s no guarantee they would make a marked difference in WT colours.

A few turnstiles in that lot ????

Good point! Brooks would be in the top 3 defensive 7s? **Moylan** has made a timely recovery from injury.

Still the best punchable face in the league
 
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326981) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326977) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326483) said:
@geo said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326478) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326466) said:
When we will start talking about Brooks replacement ...120 odd pages about someone that everyone accepts isn't going to make it as an NRL player

Someone should tell Maguire 1st..

I did ...he said Billy is back in a few weeks ( I can't add the expletives he added in regards to Brooks )

Do you rate Billy higher because he could wear maroon one day ? I’ve noticed that a lot of your players you like tend to come from warmer climates ?

I'm just baiting Geo again ...but Billy is supposedly back in 2-3 weeks

But in all reality , Brooks hasn't improved on 2020 and if this continues throughout 2021 ...he has to go at seasons end .....and if Madge can't recognize that ...he needs to go as well

I’d argue the knights game was better than anything he produced in 2020, so on that basis he has improved and it’s only round 3
 
@mike said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1327423) said:
@twentyforty said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1327420) said:
@elderslie_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1327419) said:
@twentyforty said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1327353) said:
The off-contract halves are Reynolds, Shaun Johnson, Matt Moylan, Tom Dearden, Anthony Milford, Ash Taylor, Chad Townsend and Mitchell Moses.
I think Brooks with a settled spine is as good if not better than the above list. Sure you could make a case for Reynolds or Johnson, but there’s no guarantee they would make a marked difference in WT colours.

A few turnstiles in that lot ????

Good point! Brooks would be in the top 3 defensive 7s? **Moylan** has made a timely recovery from injury.

Still the best punchable face in the league
Second to Moses
 
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1327432) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326981) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326977) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326483) said:
@geo said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326478) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326466) said:
When we will start talking about Brooks replacement ...120 odd pages about someone that everyone accepts isn't going to make it as an NRL player

Someone should tell Maguire 1st..

I did ...he said Billy is back in a few weeks ( I can't add the expletives he added in regards to Brooks )

Do you rate Billy higher because he could wear maroon one day ? I’ve noticed that a lot of your players you like tend to come from warmer climates ?

I'm just baiting Geo again ...but Billy is supposedly back in 2-3 weeks

But in all reality , Brooks hasn't improved on 2020 and if this continues throughout 2021 ...he has to go at seasons end .....and if Madge can't recognize that ...he needs to go as well

I’d argue the knights game was better than anything he produced in 2020, so on that basis he has improved and it’s only round 3

Especially that missed tackle that almost cost us the game ....excuses
 
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1327604) said:
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1327432) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326981) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326977) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326483) said:
@geo said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326478) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1326466) said:
When we will start talking about Brooks replacement ...120 odd pages about someone that everyone accepts isn't going to make it as an NRL player

Someone should tell Maguire 1st..

I did ...he said Billy is back in a few weeks ( I can't add the expletives he added in regards to Brooks )

Do you rate Billy higher because he could wear maroon one day ? I’ve noticed that a lot of your players you like tend to come from warmer climates ?

I'm just baiting Geo again ...but Billy is supposedly back in 2-3 weeks

But in all reality , Brooks hasn't improved on 2020 and if this continues throughout 2021 ...he has to go at seasons end .....and if Madge can't recognize that ...he needs to go as well

I’d argue the knights game was better than anything he produced in 2020, so on that basis he has improved and it’s only round 3

Especially that missed tackle that almost cost us the game ....excuses


Brooks is probably the best defensive halfback in the NRL. You reckon Roosters worry when Keary misses a tackle? Parra/Moses, Pamfers/Cleary?
 
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