Luke Brooks

[twentyforty]

People are sleeping on Luke Brooks. Since Adam Douiehi came back he has been good. Statistically last game was his best in a while.

Last round according to Fox Sports: 14 tackles, 3 missed, 2 tackle breaks, 1 line break, 2 try assists and a hand in one more. He also makes runs and sets us up plays late in tackle counts when we're struggling a bit to make metres.

If he can keep this up he will be one of our best players this season.

Yeh, I can’t understand the criticism of his kicking either? I thought that was a nicely weighted and directed kick which gave us our first try?

 

[twentyforty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPbdgHGjDf8


Have a look at Brooks debut?
Do you notice anything different in his game of today?

 

[TCL]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPbdgHGjDf8


Have a look at Brooks debut?
Do you notice anything different in his game of today?

This kid looks good we should sign him up. Short kicks and running game look great.

More so, watch the team, there are so many players in support. Oh and what a spine, teddy, farah, benji and brooks.

I vaguely remember a recent interview where the storm said they had a play called the Brooks (or something like that), where they would place a kick back into centre field for slater to run onto like brooks and teddy used to do.

This thread isnt about Daine Laurie but one area of his game that needs improvement as well as the entire team is our support play.

 

[isaaktigers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPbdgHGjDf8


Have a look at Brooks debut?
Do you notice anything different in his game of today?

I guess we see a lot of glimpses of it, but just doesn’t run the ball as much anymore IMO.

Has always been a solid tackler tho

 

[nrlsurvivor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPbdgHGjDf8


Have a look at Brooks debut?
Do you notice anything different in his game of today?

Wow he looked so much better that day (albeit highlights packages tend to focus only on the positives). He looked faster, way more confident, seemed to have more freedom to roam left and right , played what he saw whereas now he seems to be overthinking and playing within his structured corridor.

 

[TrueTiger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPbdgHGjDf8


Have a look at Brooks debut?
Do you notice anything different in his game of today?

Wow he looked so much better that day (albeit highlights packages tend to focus only on the positives). He looked faster, way more confident, seemed to have more freedom to roam left and right , played what he saw whereas now he seems to be overthinking and playing within his structured corridor.

Thats the effect of different coaches with differing structures can do to a player as well as being in the shadow of a club icon for years....the last 2 games seem to me that he is finally doing what Madge is coaching and having a great halves partner as well as FB and hooker is letting him run and do a lot more than previous seasons....As with the spine Brooks will get better and I personally hope he does...Ive been a critic of his many times,now I wish him all the best in getting to show us his true talent....lets hope so...

 

[avocadoontoast]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPbdgHGjDf8


Have a look at Brooks debut?
Do you notice anything different in his game of today?

I guess we see a lot of glimpses of it, but just doesn’t run the ball as much anymore IMO.

Has always been a solid tackler tho

I can't recall seeing a player regress so much.

 

[Speed2burn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPbdgHGjDf8


Have a look at Brooks debut?
Do you notice anything different in his game of today?

Wow he looked so much better that day (albeit highlights packages tend to focus only on the positives). He looked faster, way more confident, seemed to have more freedom to roam left and right , played what he saw whereas now he seems to be overthinking and playing within his structured corridor.

Thats the effect of different coaches with differing structures can do to a player as well as being in the shadow of a club icon for years....the last 2 games seem to me that he is finally doing what Madge is coaching and having a great halves partner as well as FB and hooker is letting him run and do a lot more than previous seasons....As with the spine Brooks will get better and I personally hope he does...Ive been a critic of his many times,now I wish him all the best in getting to show us his true talent....lets hope so...

I actually think this is it. Playing under so many different coaches can ruin your rhythm and style of play. Watching that video and his early days at the tigers is his natural style of play from his junior days that has undoubtedly been coached out of him.

 

[hobbo1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPbdgHGjDf8


Have a look at Brooks debut?
Do you notice anything different in his game of today?

Wow he looked so much better that day (albeit highlights packages tend to focus only on the positives). He looked faster, way more confident, seemed to have more freedom to roam left and right , played what he saw whereas now he seems to be overthinking and playing within his structured corridor.

Thats the effect of different coaches with differing structures can do to a player as well as being in the shadow of a club icon for years....the last 2 games seem to me that he is finally doing what Madge is coaching and having a great halves partner as well as FB and hooker is letting him run and do a lot more than previous seasons....As with the spine Brooks will get better and I personally hope he does...Ive been a critic of his many times,now I wish him all the best in getting to show us his true talent....lets hope so...

I actually think this is it. Playing under so many different coaches can ruin your rhythm and style of play. Watching that video and his early days at the tigers is his natural style of play from his junior days that has undoubtedly been coached out of him.

That’s crap .
If he had any nous at all he’d at least get the basics correct no matter the coach or his playing partners ..

 

[Speed2burn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPbdgHGjDf8


Have a look at Brooks debut?
Do you notice anything different in his game of today?

Wow he looked so much better that day (albeit highlights packages tend to focus only on the positives). He looked faster, way more confident, seemed to have more freedom to roam left and right , played what he saw whereas now he seems to be overthinking and playing within his structured corridor.

Thats the effect of different coaches with differing structures can do to a player as well as being in the shadow of a club icon for years....the last 2 games seem to me that he is finally doing what Madge is coaching and having a great halves partner as well as FB and hooker is letting him run and do a lot more than previous seasons....As with the spine Brooks will get better and I personally hope he does...Ive been a critic of his many times,now I wish him all the best in getting to show us his true talent....lets hope so...

I actually think this is it. Playing under so many different coaches can ruin your rhythm and style of play. Watching that video and his early days at the tigers is his natural style of play from his junior days that has undoubtedly been coached out of him.

That’s crap .
If he had any nous at all he’d at least get the basics correct no matter the coach or his playing partners ..

Well I’ve seen a different player under each coach we’ve had

Under JT/Potter he was an off the cuff, pull a rabbit out of the hat type playmaker but his D was awful

I still stress under Cleary, despite what people think of him had Brooks playing his best footy. He could nail a short kick / grubber on a 50c piece, his defense was the best in the league etc

Under Madge he has regressed although imo he has shown a heck of a lot more so far than he has last year so far

 

[old_man_tiger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPbdgHGjDf8


Have a look at Brooks debut?
Do you notice anything different in his game of today?

That really depressed me for some reason. Not just Brooks but the quality we had and we still couldn't make the 8 for so long.

 

[jirskyr]

Have a look at Brooks debut?
Do you notice anything different in his game of today?

This kid looks good we should sign him up. Short kicks and running game look great.

More so, watch the team, there are so many players in support. Oh and what a spine, teddy, farah, benji and brooks.

Well there's a couple of things about that game.

Firstly Tigers were on a 6-game losing streak in spite of the potential calibre of the 2013 roster - Tedesco, old Benji, Woods, younger Chris Lawrence, Farah, Simona, early Curtis Siro, Galloway etc.

That St George win was the only one in a 9-game run to almost collect the wooden spoon (15th), and there was another 7-game losing streak earlier in the season. 2012 was the year we were supposed to go better than 2010/11 with the roster we had, and 2014-2015 we were flat out avoiding the wooden spoon, coached by Potter and JT.

Brooks unfortunately joined a team severely on the decline and my chief suspicion was because the game was moving further and further away from expansive attacking football in favour of more defensive-oriented, high line-speed, low error teams. It became more of a power game and less of a finesse game. Tigers always had issues with big strong defensive swarming teams, but it was exacerbated by our inconsistency after 2011, being an attack-focused free-wheeling club for almost the entire Tim Sheens tenure.

Specifically to the game itself, St George simply got spooked and fell apart. They finished 14th that season and leading into the Tigers game had won 3, lost 12, and the loss to Tigers was part of a 6-match losing streak.

Brooks played great but St George let him play, they let him, run and kick and gave Tigers tonnes of space.

It's actually very interesting the similarities between Tigers and St George since 2010/2011, both teams arguably being the best sides of those seasons and both falling away badly from 2012, despite some good young talent coming through. St George have only made the finals twice since 2011 (8th in 2015 and 7th in 2018) and only won 1 finals game since (and including) 2011.

 

[851]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPbdgHGjDf8


Have a look at Brooks debut?
Do you notice anything different in his game of today?

I guess we see a lot of glimpses of it, but just doesn’t run the ball as much anymore IMO.

Has always been a solid tackler tho

I can't recall seeing a player regress so much.

Tim Smith comes to mind, but he wasn't given the latitude Brooks has been given, he was moved on

 

[izotope]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPbdgHGjDf8


Have a look at Brooks debut?
Do you notice anything different in his game of today?

Almost is always running to the line then shortball or kick.

He's catch and passing now. If he starts going to the line it will open up opportunities

 

[Deleted member 3518]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPbdgHGjDf8


Have a look at Brooks debut?
Do you notice anything different in his game of today?

Wow he looked so much better that day (albeit highlights packages tend to focus only on the positives). He looked faster, way more confident, seemed to have more freedom to roam left and right , played what he saw whereas now he seems to be overthinking and playing within his structured corridor.

Thats the effect of different coaches with differing structures can do to a player as well as being in the shadow of a club icon for years....the last 2 games seem to me that he is finally doing what Madge is coaching and having a great halves partner as well as FB and hooker is letting him run and do a lot more than previous seasons....As with the spine Brooks will get better and I personally hope he does...Ive been a critic of his many times,now I wish him all the best in getting to show us his true talent....lets hope so...

I actually think this is it. Playing under so many different coaches can ruin your rhythm and style of play. Watching that video and his early days at the tigers is his natural style of play from his junior days that has undoubtedly been coached out of him.

That’s crap .
If he had any nous at all he’d at least get the basics correct no matter the coach or his playing partners ..

Well I’ve seen a different player under each coach we’ve had

Under JT/Potter he was an off the cuff, pull a rabbit out of the hat type playmaker but his D was awful

I still stress under Cleary, despite what people think of him had Brooks playing his best footy. He could nail a short kick / grubber on a 50c piece, his defense was the best in the league etc

Under Madge he has regressed although imo he has shown a heck of a lot more so far than he has last year so far

Also , the number 1 criticism for brooks is kicking short / repeat sets .
Watch that video , and then watch a video from last year when trying to get the ball in the in goal , and what you’ll notice , is the lack of defenders playing at the ball . He was allowed to get it through . Now it’s almost impossible to get a kick through . Benji last night kicked into legs 3 times , and Reynolds twice I believe . All 5 of those would have got through in 2013.
So unless you’re a truely elite and deceptive kicker , who used to play soccer as a junior , like Cleary, it’s really really , difficult. The best ones I notice are from the edge forward or a back after an edge raid has gone nowhere , as there’s no real anticipation for it .
Defences are so smart these days , and attacks are so crisp . I don’t think the game has ever been more technical , and mentally draining .

 

[OzLuke]

People are sleeping on Luke Brooks. Since Adam Douiehi came back he has been good. Statistically last game was his best in a while.

Last round according to Fox Sports: 14 tackles, 3 missed, 2 tackle breaks, 1 line break, 2 try assists and a hand in one more. He also makes runs and sets us up plays late in tackle counts when we're struggling a bit to make metres.

If he can keep this up he will be one of our best players this season.


Yeh, I can’t understand the criticism of his kicking either? I thought that was a nicely weighted and directed kick which gave us our first try?

I guess people focus more on the negatives than the positives. He could get 4 kicks right but the 5th might be a dud and that's all some focus on...

 

[JC99]

How can anyone think Brooks had a good game with his kicking last week? He did 7 kicks and ONE was effective. That's not a good outcome at all..... the one time he landed it on the try line we scored off it, all the other kicks landed 10 metres out. He never once turned around the opposition with a long kick into a corner either.

He puts the same two kicks in. A long kick straight down the throat of the opposition, or a short high kick that doesn't land on the try line. He doesn't even attempt grubber kicks into the in goal anymore after booting them all dead. In fact all we did was give it to Doueihi to kick because he's so much better at it.

Kicking is the #1 thing he needs to fix. His passing and running game has been good the last two weeks but if he wants to be a HALFBACK who leads the team around he needs to be better with the boot. I can't remember the last time we forced a dropout with a good kick or found the grass in the corner

 

[Speed2burn]

How can anyone think Brooks had a good game with his kicking last week? He did 7 kicks and ONE was effective. That's not a good outcome at all..... the one time he landed it on the try line we scored off it, all the other kicks landed 10 metres out. He never once turned around the opposition with a long kick into a corner either.

He puts the same two kicks in. A long kick straight down the throat of the opposition, or a short high kick that doesn't land on the try line. He doesn't even attempt grubber kicks into the in goal anymore after booting them all dead. In fact all we did was give it to Doueihi to kick because he's so much better at it.

Kicking is the #1 thing he needs to fix. His passing and running game has been good the last two weeks but if he wants to be a HALFBACK who leads the team around he needs to be better with the boot. I can't remember the last time we forced a dropout with a good kick or found the grass in the corner

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but just because Doueihi has a high torp that Ferguson and Gutho struggled to catch doesn’t mean his kicking game is “so much better”. Apart from those bombs his kicking game was actually not much better

How do you know that Brooks isn’t instructed by Madge to mid field bomb? it’s actually a common tactic in today’s game and most teams do it. Like they say, your kick is only as good as your chase and maybe we aren’t getting the 1%’rs right

 

[OzLuke]

How can anyone think Brooks had a good game with his kicking last week? He did 7 kicks and ONE was effective. That's not a good outcome at all..... the one time he landed it on the try line we scored off it, all the other kicks landed 10 metres out. He never once turned around the opposition with a long kick into a corner either.

He puts the same two kicks in. A long kick straight down the throat of the opposition, or a short high kick that doesn't land on the try line. He doesn't even attempt grubber kicks into the in goal anymore after booting them all dead. In fact all we did was give it to Doueihi to kick because he's so much better at it.

Kicking is the #1 thing he needs to fix. His passing and running game has been good the last two weeks but if he wants to be a HALFBACK who leads the team around he needs to be better with the boot. I can't remember the last time we forced a dropout with a good kick or found the grass in the corner

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but just because Doueihi has a high torp that Ferguson and Gutho struggled to catch doesn’t mean his kicking game is “so much better”. Apart from those bombs his kicking game was actually not much better

How do you know that Brooks isn’t instructed by Madge to mid field bomb? it’s actually a common tactic in today’s game and most teams do it. Like they say, your kick is only as good as your chase and maybe we aren’t getting the 1%’rs right

I agree with this. whatever bomb is put up our chasers are hardly banging down the door to get to it....

 

[Speed2burn]

How can anyone think Brooks had a good game with his kicking last week? He did 7 kicks and ONE was effective. That's not a good outcome at all..... the one time he landed it on the try line we scored off it, all the other kicks landed 10 metres out. He never once turned around the opposition with a long kick into a corner either.

He puts the same two kicks in. A long kick straight down the throat of the opposition, or a short high kick that doesn't land on the try line. He doesn't even attempt grubber kicks into the in goal anymore after booting them all dead. In fact all we did was give it to Doueihi to kick because he's so much better at it.

Kicking is the #1 thing he needs to fix. His passing and running game has been good the last two weeks but if he wants to be a HALFBACK who leads the team around he needs to be better with the boot. I can't remember the last time we forced a dropout with a good kick or found the grass in the corner

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but just because Doueihi has a high torp that Ferguson and Gutho struggled to catch doesn’t mean his kicking game is “so much better”. Apart from those bombs his kicking game was actually not much better

How do you know that Brooks isn’t instructed by Madge to mid field bomb? it’s actually a common tactic in today’s game and most teams do it. Like they say, your kick is only as good as your chase and maybe we aren’t getting the 1%’rs right

I agree with this. whatever bomb is put up our chasers are hardly banging down the door to get to it....

I remember when Brooks chased his own bomb and smashed Tedesco in round 2 , it made me think...so that’s what good kick chase looks like