Mad Monday Allegations

@strongee said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338026) said:
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337881) said:
@strongee said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337805) said:
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337685) said:
@drew76 said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337672) said:
@dgilly said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337638) said:
Anyone hear what was said on WestsLife Podcast about what allegedly happened on Mad Monday?

For those who didn't it seems Benji, Packer and either Aloiai or Reynolds were causing division over whether to get behind Madge or not and went to Pascoe to ask to get him fired. Then on mad Monday a bunch of guys Madge had signed (and a few others) got so heated over the issue that they went outside and almost had a blue.

Seems that the players who have our coach's back really have his back and those who don't really don't. A "house divided against itself cannot stand".

Why am not surprised Benji's name is in there...... So glad the little white ant isn't at the club anymore.
Bet he is licking his lips Reynolds may be moving on too More limelight for his ego

Club legend apparently.

How did you get down voted for this ? The guys done nothing but be a cancer for us , either directly , or indirectly eg. Nrl360 for many years now , at some point the good , gets over taken .


Not sure, thought it was you that down voted.

I don’t downvote anyone. Unless it’s just pure garbage .


Fair enough. I don't know. If I hover over it, your name comes up. Doesn't matter though. I think most realise now Marshall isn't the bloke that he tries to show he is.
 
@spartan117 said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338146) said:
@gallagher said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337676) said:
Who does that podcast?

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkLnBvZGJlYW4uY29tL3dlc3RzbGlmZS9mZWVkLnhtbA?ep=14

The WestsLife Podcast is for people whose life revolves around the Wests Tigers NRL team. WestsLife goes beyond the 80 minutes on field with in depth about everything about the Wests Tigers past, present and future.

Only just discovered.

The episode with blore was solid

Not a bad podcast first time listening. Production needs some work but I enjoyed it.
 
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338167) said:
@strongee said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338026) said:
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337881) said:
@strongee said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337805) said:
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337685) said:
@drew76 said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337672) said:
@dgilly said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337638) said:
Anyone hear what was said on WestsLife Podcast about what allegedly happened on Mad Monday?

For those who didn't it seems Benji, Packer and either Aloiai or Reynolds were causing division over whether to get behind Madge or not and went to Pascoe to ask to get him fired. Then on mad Monday a bunch of guys Madge had signed (and a few others) got so heated over the issue that they went outside and almost had a blue.

Seems that the players who have our coach's back really have his back and those who don't really don't. A "house divided against itself cannot stand".

Why am not surprised Benji's name is in there...... So glad the little white ant isn't at the club anymore.
Bet he is licking his lips Reynolds may be moving on too More limelight for his ego

Club legend apparently.

How did you get down voted for this ? The guys done nothing but be a cancer for us , either directly , or indirectly eg. Nrl360 for many years now , at some point the good , gets over taken .


Not sure, thought it was you that down voted.

I don’t downvote anyone. Unless it’s just pure garbage .


Fair enough. I don't know. If I hover over it, your name comes up. Doesn't matter though. I think most realise now Marshall isn't the bloke that he tries to show he is.

You actually see upvotes that's why you see strongee's name..he upvoted your post..downvotes don't show to users..
 
@geo said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338178) said:
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338167) said:
@strongee said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338026) said:
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337881) said:
@strongee said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337805) said:
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337685) said:
@drew76 said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337672) said:
@dgilly said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337638) said:
Anyone hear what was said on WestsLife Podcast about what allegedly happened on Mad Monday?

For those who didn't it seems Benji, Packer and either Aloiai or Reynolds were causing division over whether to get behind Madge or not and went to Pascoe to ask to get him fired. Then on mad Monday a bunch of guys Madge had signed (and a few others) got so heated over the issue that they went outside and almost had a blue.

Seems that the players who have our coach's back really have his back and those who don't really don't. A "house divided against itself cannot stand".

Why am not surprised Benji's name is in there...... So glad the little white ant isn't at the club anymore.
Bet he is licking his lips Reynolds may be moving on too More limelight for his ego

Club legend apparently.

How did you get down voted for this ? The guys done nothing but be a cancer for us , either directly , or indirectly eg. Nrl360 for many years now , at some point the good , gets over taken .


Not sure, thought it was you that down voted.

I don’t downvote anyone. Unless it’s just pure garbage .


Fair enough. I don't know. If I hover over it, your name comes up. Doesn't matter though. I think most realise now Marshall isn't the bloke that he tries to show he is.

You actually see upvotes that's why you see strongee's name..he upvoted your post..downvotes don't show to users..


I must have 2 down votes then as Im on "0" with two names. Lol two that are so enamoured by Marshall and his white-anting ways.
 
@geo said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338178) said:
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338167) said:
@strongee said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338026) said:
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337881) said:
@strongee said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337805) said:
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337685) said:
@drew76 said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337672) said:
@dgilly said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337638) said:
Anyone hear what was said on WestsLife Podcast about what allegedly happened on Mad Monday?

For those who didn't it seems Benji, Packer and either Aloiai or Reynolds were causing division over whether to get behind Madge or not and went to Pascoe to ask to get him fired. Then on mad Monday a bunch of guys Madge had signed (and a few others) got so heated over the issue that they went outside and almost had a blue.

Seems that the players who have our coach's back really have his back and those who don't really don't. A "house divided against itself cannot stand".

Why am not surprised Benji's name is in there...... So glad the little white ant isn't at the club anymore.
Bet he is licking his lips Reynolds may be moving on too More limelight for his ego

Club legend apparently.

How did you get down voted for this ? The guys done nothing but be a cancer for us , either directly , or indirectly eg. Nrl360 for many years now , at some point the good , gets over taken .


Not sure, thought it was you that down voted.

I don’t downvote anyone. Unless it’s just pure garbage .


Fair enough. I don't know. If I hover over it, your name comes up. Doesn't matter though. I think most realise now Marshall isn't the bloke that he tries to show he is.

You actually see upvotes that's why you see strongee's name..he upvoted your post..downvotes don't show to users..

But it would be much better if they did.
 
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338179) said:
@geo said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338178) said:
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338167) said:
@strongee said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338026) said:
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337881) said:
@strongee said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337805) said:
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337685) said:
@drew76 said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337672) said:
@dgilly said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337638) said:
Anyone hear what was said on WestsLife Podcast about what allegedly happened on Mad Monday?

For those who didn't it seems Benji, Packer and either Aloiai or Reynolds were causing division over whether to get behind Madge or not and went to Pascoe to ask to get him fired. Then on mad Monday a bunch of guys Madge had signed (and a few others) got so heated over the issue that they went outside and almost had a blue.

Seems that the players who have our coach's back really have his back and those who don't really don't. A "house divided against itself cannot stand".

Why am not surprised Benji's name is in there...... So glad the little white ant isn't at the club anymore.
Bet he is licking his lips Reynolds may be moving on too More limelight for his ego

Club legend apparently.

How did you get down voted for this ? The guys done nothing but be a cancer for us , either directly , or indirectly eg. Nrl360 for many years now , at some point the good , gets over taken .


Not sure, thought it was you that down voted.

I don’t downvote anyone. Unless it’s just pure garbage .


Fair enough. I don't know. If I hover over it, your name comes up. Doesn't matter though. I think most realise now Marshall isn't the bloke that he tries to show he is.

You actually see upvotes that's why you see strongee's name..he upvoted your post..downvotes don't show to users..


I must have 2 down votes then as Im on "0" with two names. Lol two that are so enamoured by Marshall and his white-anting ways.

Mate your entitled to your opinion,if you got 2 down votes its because the truth really hurts some people and instead of discussing the topic they get vicious ...
 
As far as I am concerned, Benji was and always will be a club legend for what he did for the club prior to that day he paraded around in that Auckland Blues jersey.

From that day onwards he doesn't exist.
 
@geo said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338005) said:
Wait a player told the mate of the podcaster some 5 months after mad monday and they just remembered it now..at 1/4..yep seems legit..

This place does gossip better than a bingo hall!! 😂😂
There's never a dull moment in Tiger Town.
 
@kiwitiger said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337824) said:
@strongee said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337814) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337808) said:
@kiwitiger said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337783) said:
I do find this is taken as a true story, but really it is an irrelevant story. those players are no longer here and have no influence.
But we still put in poor performances. It's almost an excuse for the club. Divided group no chance of success with that but here we are the bad eggs removed and still no success.

Good post.

I disagree paws . It’s indicative of a culture that benji lead , which really resorts back to about face we did from Cleary to Madge in coaching styles . All the BS about Benji buying in , clearly isn’t true if there was a revolt at some point . And if that did happen , and there’s guys here still under contract , and even out there on Sunday , it can seep in like a cancer .

Benji is gone so is the other players except Packer (who would be a pariah to the rest of the group if this is true). They should all be united now as at least 2 of the problems are gone (and the only remaining one would be on the outer). This playing group should be united by this experience.

Did any of them have a Milky Way ......
 
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338167) said:
@strongee said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338026) said:
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337881) said:
@strongee said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337805) said:
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337685) said:
@drew76 said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337672) said:
@dgilly said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337638) said:
Anyone hear what was said on WestsLife Podcast about what allegedly happened on Mad Monday?

For those who didn't it seems Benji, Packer and either Aloiai or Reynolds were causing division over whether to get behind Madge or not and went to Pascoe to ask to get him fired. Then on mad Monday a bunch of guys Madge had signed (and a few others) got so heated over the issue that they went outside and almost had a blue.

Seems that the players who have our coach's back really have his back and those who don't really don't. A "house divided against itself cannot stand".

Why am not surprised Benji's name is in there...... So glad the little white ant isn't at the club anymore.
Bet he is licking his lips Reynolds may be moving on too More limelight for his ego

Club legend apparently.

How did you get down voted for this ? The guys done nothing but be a cancer for us , either directly , or indirectly eg. Nrl360 for many years now , at some point the good , gets over taken .


Not sure, thought it was you that down voted.

I don’t downvote anyone. Unless it’s just pure garbage .


Fair enough. I don't know. If I hover over it, your name comes up. Doesn't matter though. I think most realise now Marshall isn't the bloke that he tries to show he is.

Yea ,I upvoted it .
 
@moh said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338070) said:
I really don't buy this.

If you follow our players on social media, especially the last couple of years - they are a very tight group. Every milestone/someone leaving, most players would post a congratulations/thank you about it. Reynolds is very much loved by almost every player.

The current crop look more like a split group than the ones of years gone by.

So why was the 2005 group so tight? Was It that we had players like Gibbs in the squad, universally respected by all and a great clubman?

Was it Sheens, intelligent, wise, approachable, a father figure to all and with excellent person management skills?

Perhaps the mix of the squad was right including players who have been labelled in later times as 'white ants' by some.

The mix of the squad perhaps determined by who Sheens could attract to WTs. He wasn't known as the "recruiter" for being bad at it.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338207) said:
@moh said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338070) said:
I really don't buy this.

If you follow our players on social media, especially the last couple of years - they are a very tight group. Every milestone/someone leaving, most players would post a congratulations/thank you about it. Reynolds is very much loved by almost every player.

The current crop look more like a split group than the ones of years gone by.

So why was the 2005 group so tight? Was It that we had players like Gibbs in the squad, universally respected by all and a great clubman?

Was it Sheens, intelligent, wise, approachable, a father figure to all and with excellent person management skills?

Perhaps the mix of the squad was right including players who have been labelled in later times as 'white ants' by some.


In some ways Sheens May have been responsible for Benji’s huge ego. Tim knew the value of not telling the players what to do, but rather guiding them through the thought process of making their own decisions. He knew that if players decided to play they would play, and all he had to do was encourage that process.
 
@twentyforty said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338209) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338207) said:
@moh said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338070) said:
I really don't buy this.

If you follow our players on social media, especially the last couple of years - they are a very tight group. Every milestone/someone leaving, most players would post a congratulations/thank you about it. Reynolds is very much loved by almost every player.

The current crop look more like a split group than the ones of years gone by.

So why was the 2005 group so tight? Was It that we had players like Gibbs in the squad, universally respected by all and a great clubman?

Was it Sheens, intelligent, wise, approachable, a father figure to all and with excellent person management skills?

Perhaps the mix of the squad was right including players who have been labelled in later times as 'white ants' by some.


In some ways Sheens May have been responsible for Benji’s huge ego. Tim knew the value of not telling the players what to do, but rather guiding them through the thought process of making their own decisions. He knew that if players decided to play they would play, and all he had to do was encourage that process.

He was/is an astute person manager. A WTs' coach to be greatly admired. You look at the great coaches and person management skills are right up there for qualilties.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338211) said:
@twentyforty said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338209) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338207) said:
@moh said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338070) said:
I really don't buy this.

If you follow our players on social media, especially the last couple of years - they are a very tight group. Every milestone/someone leaving, most players would post a congratulations/thank you about it. Reynolds is very much loved by almost every player.

The current crop look more like a split group than the ones of years gone by.

So why was the 2005 group so tight? Was It that we had players like Gibbs in the squad, universally respected by all and a great clubman?

Was it Sheens, intelligent, wise, approachable, a father figure to all and with excellent person management skills?

Perhaps the mix of the squad was right including players who have been labelled in later times as 'white ants' by some.


In some ways Sheens May have been responsible for Benji’s huge ego. Tim knew the value of not telling the players what to do, but rather guiding them through the thought process of making their own decisions. He knew that if players decided to play they would play, and all he had to do was encourage that process.

He was/is an astute person manager. A WTs' coach to be greatly admired. You look at the great ciaches and person management skills are right up there for qualilities.

Absolutely! When he left the Cowboys he did nothing but study sports psychology. He believed that to be the most important role of a head coach. The Tigers picked him up, giving him an opportunity to prove his theories about group dynamics. I don’t know if anyone noticed but switch the clock back to round 15, 05. By half time Tigers we’re getting a lesson from the Broncos. During the second half most of the players began a very animated discussion. The determination was quite visible in their nonverbal language. I don’t know what Sheens said to them at the break, but my best guess is he asked them a few questions? You know the rest of the story.
 
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338167) said:
@strongee said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338026) said:
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337881) said:
@strongee said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337805) said:
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337685) said:
@drew76 said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337672) said:
@dgilly said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337638) said:
Anyone hear what was said on WestsLife Podcast about what allegedly happened on Mad Monday?

For those who didn't it seems Benji, Packer and either Aloiai or Reynolds were causing division over whether to get behind Madge or not and went to Pascoe to ask to get him fired. Then on mad Monday a bunch of guys Madge had signed (and a few others) got so heated over the issue that they went outside and almost had a blue.

Seems that the players who have our coach's back really have his back and those who don't really don't. A "house divided against itself cannot stand".

Why am not surprised Benji's name is in there...... So glad the little white ant isn't at the club anymore.
Bet he is licking his lips Reynolds may be moving on too More limelight for his ego

Club legend apparently.

How did you get down voted for this ? The guys done nothing but be a cancer for us , either directly , or indirectly eg. Nrl360 for many years now , at some point the good , gets over taken .


Not sure, thought it was you that down voted.

I don’t downvote anyone. Unless it’s just pure garbage .


Fair enough. I don't know. If I hover over it, your name comes up. Doesn't matter though. I think most realise now Marshall isn't the bloke that he tries to show he is.

If you hover over the number of votes, the only names that show up are people that upvoted. Click on the number and you can see who has upvoted/downvoted you. If Strongee's name shows up, he's upvoted you.
 
Who cares about 2005? It was 16 seasons ago now, the game has moved on from that.

No wonder we can't move forward.
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338232) said:
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338167) said:
@strongee said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338026) said:
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337881) said:
@strongee said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337805) said:
@rustycage said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337685) said:
@drew76 said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337672) said:
@dgilly said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1337638) said:
Anyone hear what was said on WestsLife Podcast about what allegedly happened on Mad Monday?

For those who didn't it seems Benji, Packer and either Aloiai or Reynolds were causing division over whether to get behind Madge or not and went to Pascoe to ask to get him fired. Then on mad Monday a bunch of guys Madge had signed (and a few others) got so heated over the issue that they went outside and almost had a blue.

Seems that the players who have our coach's back really have his back and those who don't really don't. A "house divided against itself cannot stand".

Why am not surprised Benji's name is in there...... So glad the little white ant isn't at the club anymore.
Bet he is licking his lips Reynolds may be moving on too More limelight for his ego

Club legend apparently.

How did you get down voted for this ? The guys done nothing but be a cancer for us , either directly , or indirectly eg. Nrl360 for many years now , at some point the good , gets over taken .


Not sure, thought it was you that down voted.

I don’t downvote anyone. Unless it’s just pure garbage .


Fair enough. I don't know. If I hover over it, your name comes up. Doesn't matter though. I think most realise now Marshall isn't the bloke that he tries to show he is.

If you hover over the number of votes, the only names that show up are people that upvoted. Click on the number and you can see who has upvoted/downvoted you. If Strongee's name shows up, he's upvoted you.

Only mods can see who’s downvoted ..
Us minions aren’t privy to that info
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338234) said:
Who cares about 2005? It was 16 seasons ago now, the game has moved on from that.

No wonder we can't move forward.


What we learn from history is that people don't learn from it. We're going backwards but not in a good way.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338238) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Mad Monday Allegations](/post/1338234) said:
Who cares about 2005? It was 16 seasons ago now, the game has moved on from that.

No wonder we can't move forward.


What we learn from history is that people don't learn from it. We're going backwards but not in a good way.

We tried to "learn from the past" by bringing back Robbie and Benji, where did it get us?
 

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