Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

@gcfan said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406187) said:
@tigers79 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406161) said:
Not defending ( excuse the pun) nofa at all but watch Lucy and mybe inside him … they have no idea

Now a winger usually takes the option of the guys inside him whether that be jam in or slide out … with these 2 inside him he had no idea today
Again not defending him but you need to take a look at the other 2 muppets and you can see that whole edge is in trouble as soon as mybe makes it doesn’t make the decision

I understand what your talking about and often the problem starts further infield but man, sometimes Nofa looks like he’s asking our centre or 2nd rower if he can get a piggyback he’s so far infield

I'm not about to defend Nofa either but geez, he's got the toughest job of any winger in the NRL outside those chumps. SLIDE, SLIDE, SLIDE....
 
@demps said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406197) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406168) said:
Does anyone know the time of the recruitment meeting tomorrow?

4:20

this guy told me...

![dennis.jpeg](/assets/uploads/files/1625394557622-dennis.jpeg)

You know his brother was the original drummer for AC/DC...
 
@tigerballs said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406209) said:
@demps said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406197) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406168) said:
Does anyone know the time of the recruitment meeting tomorrow?

4:20

this guy told me...

![dennis.jpeg](/assets/uploads/files/1625394557622-dennis.jpeg)

You know his brother was the original drummer for AC/DC...

I can tell....
 
@tigerballs said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406199) said:
@gcfan said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406187) said:
@tigers79 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406161) said:
Not defending ( excuse the pun) nofa at all but watch Lucy and mybe inside him … they have no idea

Now a winger usually takes the option of the guys inside him whether that be jam in or slide out … with these 2 inside him he had no idea today
Again not defending him but you need to take a look at the other 2 muppets and you can see that whole edge is in trouble as soon as mybe makes it doesn’t make the decision

I understand what your talking about and often the problem starts further infield but man, sometimes Nofa looks like he’s asking our centre or 2nd rower if he can get a piggyback he’s so far infield

I'm not about to defend Nofa either but geez, he's got the toughest job of any winger in the NRL outside those chumps. SLIDE, SLIDE, SLIDE....

Yeah but don’t you usually slide toward the sideline? I think Nofa’s allergic to it, unless he’s trying to put a kick off out on the full by touching it. Oh wait…..
 
Did not watch all the game as through frustration did some channel surfing, but what I did see I reckon at least 12 other sides would have beaten Souths or got very close. They were not flash as the score card would indicate. We were terrible for the second game in a row. There was no bounce back effect from the Storm game. It was same old same old.

We are going backwards quicker than the rowers at the Olympics. Okay Iam sure most of the blame should be spread over the playing group, but at the end of the day it’s the coaches job to have the team up for games with the ability to win. That is not the case with our team, they are a leaderless rabble. So I think Madge has to go, but I doubt he will
 
@tigerballs said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406183) said:
@tigers79 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406161) said:
Not defending ( excuse the pun) nofa at all but watch Lucy and mybe inside him … they have no idea

Now a winger usually takes the option of the guys inside him whether that be jam in or slide out … with these 2 inside him he had no idea today
Again not defending him but you need to take a look at the other 2 muppets and you can see that whole edge is in trouble as soon as mybe makes it doesn’t make the decision

And how does fan favourite Douehei escape critisism. He is absolutely clueless in defence and even when he has them lined up he's 50/50. He's a cat. Sorry Demps, I know you want him as captain but he's hopeless.

Not the Turtle !
 
@gcfan said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406234) said:
@tigerballs said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406199) said:
@gcfan said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406187) said:
@tigers79 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406161) said:
Not defending ( excuse the pun) nofa at all but watch Lucy and mybe inside him … they have no idea

Now a winger usually takes the option of the guys inside him whether that be jam in or slide out … with these 2 inside him he had no idea today
Again not defending him but you need to take a look at the other 2 muppets and you can see that whole edge is in trouble as soon as mybe makes it doesn’t make the decision

I understand what your talking about and often the problem starts further infield but man, sometimes Nofa looks like he’s asking our centre or 2nd rower if he can get a piggyback he’s so far infield

I'm not about to defend Nofa either but geez, he's got the toughest job of any winger in the NRL outside those chumps. SLIDE, SLIDE, SLIDE....

Yeah but don’t you usually slide toward the sideline? I think Nofa’s allergic to it, unless he’s trying to put a kick off out on the full by touching it. Oh wait…..

But no one inside him will come across. You can't just blame him, the two inside him give him no help whatsoever.
 
@tigerballs said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406209) said:
@demps said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406197) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406168) said:
Does anyone know the time of the recruitment meeting tomorrow?

4:20

this guy told me...

![dennis.jpeg](/assets/uploads/files/1625394557622-dennis.jpeg)

You know his brother was the original drummer for AC/DC...

Worlds oldest teenager! Is that his real hair or a rug?
 
At least Maguire called us out in the presser and didn't go close to mentioning ebbs and flows. Asked for 'men' who wanted to play in the team and said he would look at the team. First of his in a while where he actually said something.
 
@willow said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406113) said:
@krammy said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1405917) said:
Not sure if any of you watched Bennet's press conference. Very, very interesting. He basically said that the media blame the players for these huge blowout scores, but the main problem is with the management of some clubs. He said it is much deeper than blaming the players and suggested a toxic workplace will lead to underperforming in any work environment.. Worth watching if you haven't seen it.

https://www.nrl.com/tv/matches/telstra-premiership/2021/round-16/rabbitohs-round-16/

He was aiming fairly and squarely at the Broncos with those comments.

No way in the world Bennett ends up at Brisbane Broncos ....not while Ikin is there

Again this is just a rumour .....but was told that Liz and Trish ( Bennett ) will drop Ben like a stone if he does ever have dealings with Bennett again .....
 
What about where games we had done ok this year and had won or lost not by much which is not many tho .surely Maguire must look at what combinations and players that perform there .the cut off point for signings is not far away .things need to change .are they bringing some other players in ? Honestly will this change the line speed of our defence and the pace of our attack tho ? Long haul ? How long again?
 
@blacknwhite said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406003) said:
@demps said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1405756) said:
@blacknwhite said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1405714) said:
You can call for his head for alot of reasons... But this game isnt one of them.

4 times Mbye was run behind because he, and only he, chose to defend into the middle of the park planting his feet and turning his shoulders into the middle, and singularly created an overlap. Only once was the try disallowed because Reynolds stepped out.

Twice Dewy did the same.

A desperation offload within our own 20m, yet not a single player desperate enough to jump on the ball. Play the ball errors in our 20m...

If we sack Madge we let these players off... problem is, we need to build these players or pay them to ride the pine. The cupboards are bare, well they arent entirely, but we dont need the future born into this sort of world, we dont want them to know apathy.

Madge might not be the answer. I personally doubt he can fully turn us around. Though I do believe he can be the coach who breaks them down to hand a competent and malleable squad over to the next coach.

Make or break the squad, they are mentally weak. Moving Madge on allows the players to shift responsibility to a man no longer with the orginisation. They need to find accountability down to the player.

So you're saying...

Sack Madge... and the players?

?
My man.... it's genius!

No... I am saying sacking Madge puts all the accountability on him, lets the players off.

We can take the easy road, and give the players a pass, or we can let Madge sort the wheat from the chaff and hand over a competent squad. Continuing with Madge means we put the accountability on the roster. They either learn resilience by fire, or break. We have a handful of players who are somewhat competent, a couple that find fault by trying too hard, and others who wilt entirely under pressure finding default ability resonant to the lowest common denominator ie. once the pooch is screwed they put on a rubber and wait in line to bang us harder.

A new coach wont give us mental toughness, no pep talk will lift our worst efforts, no pat on the bum will take away our weakness under pressure. Its a rough road to beat this into players. Let Madge do it, we see glimpses of it, that means the players understand what they are coached, and its their application as players that is the issue.

New coach 5th time around... if I failed 4 times at something, i wouldnt be excited for the next round having any different outcome.

Great post Blacknwhite,
I agree wholeheartedly with your comment. If a Bellamy or Bennett were ready willing and able then maybe let Madge go.
I mentioned in a previous post weeks ago who is available now or next year that could come in and turn it around? Get more than 3 hitups a game out of Roberts? Turn Gardner into anything more than a plodder? Strengthen our edge defence?

Morris? Josh Hannay? Please... Let Madge weed out the rubbish I say
 
@rihannafan1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406261) said:
At least Maguire called us out in the presser and didn't go close to mentioning ebbs and flows. Asked for 'men' who wanted to play in the team and said he would look at the team. First of his in a while where he actually said something.

I thought it was the first presser where he sounded like a coach and actually put some sentences together that weren’t one cliche after another. He sounded pissed but like many on here I too don’t think he’ll make wholesale changes.
 
@gcfan said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406282) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406261) said:
At least Maguire called us out in the presser and didn't go close to mentioning ebbs and flows. Asked for 'men' who wanted to play in the team and said he would look at the team. First of his in a while where he actually said something.

I thought it was the first presser where he sounded like a coach and actually put some sentences together that weren’t one cliche after another. He sounded pissed but like many on here I too don’t think he’ll make wholesale changes.


Exactly, he had actual answers, referred to KOE. Good answers.

There is a problem, and I dont know what it is. That first half is simply players not putting in in defence.
 
@rihannafan1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406261) said:
At least Maguire called us out in the presser and didn't go close to mentioning ebbs and flows. Asked for 'men' who wanted to play in the team and said he would look at the team. First of his in a while where he actually said something.

Men vs Broncos

Laurie
AD
Brooks
Liddle
Stef
Seyfarth
Blore
Twal

We’re missing 8-9 ‘men’, could be another long day.
 
@bagnf05 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406297) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406261) said:
At least Maguire called us out in the presser and didn't go close to mentioning ebbs and flows. Asked for 'men' who wanted to play in the team and said he would look at the team. First of his in a while where he actually said something.

Men vs Broncos

Laurie
AD
Brooks
Liddle
Stef
Seyfarth
Blore
Twal

We’re missing 8-9 ‘men’, could be another long day.

AD only when he had the ball in hand. In defence he was child like.

Twal is normally good, but got dominated today. Not sure how you can list so many middle forwards when we got rolled.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406286) said:
@gcfan said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406282) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1406261) said:
At least Maguire called us out in the presser and didn't go close to mentioning ebbs and flows. Asked for 'men' who wanted to play in the team and said he would look at the team. First of his in a while where he actually said something.

I thought it was the first presser where he sounded like a coach and actually put some sentences together that weren’t one cliche after another. He sounded pissed but like many on here I too don’t think he’ll make wholesale changes.


Exactly, he had actual answers, referred to KOE. Good answers.

There is a problem, and I dont know what it is. That first half is simply players not putting in in defence.

I can’t see how LL keeps his spot. Or as a minimum gets played off the bench with a swap for Blore. LL’s strength is his running game so coming on later against softened up defenders might be the change we need to try. Perhaps Madge thinks Blore has missed too much footy and isn’t match fit to cope with that though
 
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