Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

[gallagher]

we had enough to offer Latrell over $1m last season

We would have had enough to offer 3 Latrells $3m without the cap constraints.

And due to how constrained we were, if we did land Latrell the rest of the squad would have been filled with minimum wagers - definitely no Doueihi, no Lucy, no Laurie, no Ken Maumolo. Latrell can be a bludger at times - and any game he didn't turn up we would have been flogged.

We could have $10m and it wouldn't make a difference. Players don't want to play for Maguire. I wouldn't want to.

It's just a myth that people take as true because it is repeated so much on here. The vast majority of players who have played with him, here or elsewhere, say it is rubbish. Our recruiting is at least as good under Madge as his predecessors, and I would argue better.

What recruitment? We haven't signed 1 NRL player for next year. And it's not a myth that players don't want to come here. My proof: No-one is coming here.

We always make most of our signings in the offseason, every single year.

People are just getting all hysterical because we didn't turn up against the Dogs in a meaningless game with our best players missing.

They beat us 38-0. We also conceded more points than them for the entire season. And that recruitment strategy is ridiculous, because you have no control over it. You are relying on teams shifting players, which might not happen. And even if it does, you're confident we'll sign some? Why? We haven't signed anyone else?

Yes 38-0, but it was a meaningless game, with most of our best players missing. Mentally Penrith was our last game of the season, then they checked out for the year. Not defending it, but it's nothing to slit our wrists over.

As for recruiting in the offseason it's not necessarily a strategy, it's just how it happens. Nobody in a top 8 team will be signing anywhere right now, give it a few weeks and that will change. I would bet my right testicle we make a few decent signings in the next 2 months (not that it's much to gamble haha).

I can guarantee you it wasn't a nothing game for Madge - he couldn't get them up for the game though.

Which is why it's bonkers to suggest he can turn it around for next season when the vast majority of the squad is the same.

For pretty much the entire second half of the season they played like a team who had given up on the coach. Don't see him turning them around at all

It's a sad reality - some players clearly tried each week, but when half the team pulls up stumps before the ball is kicked, you're going to end up with a loss on most occasions.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall inside clubs like Melbourne and the Roosters where you just don't hear of players being unhappy - they just thrive. Someone gets injured, the replacement comes in and does their job consistently. So clearly they've built cultures, set standards and have the right staff in place who not only command respect, but deserve it.

It would be interesting to see how far we fall behind in this respect - I've got no doubt some of it is on the players as too many don't have the hunger or will to win every week, so behind the scenes obviously requires a lot of work still.

Adding to that i found Joel Caines comments on his Podcast today about Steve Morris not being able to reveal information about the Roosters as Robinson has a philosophy in place that you dont reveal information to anyone even youre father interesting. His reasoning was that this would put the pressure of that information on that individual you passed it on to.

Obviously this helps the Roosters keep it in house but it also shows the difference in our club and theirs.

They take responsibility for their own actions. Well are at least asked to by their coach.

Can you link me Caines podcast.

 

[The_Patriot]

we had enough to offer Latrell over $1m last season

We would have had enough to offer 3 Latrells $3m without the cap constraints.

And due to how constrained we were, if we did land Latrell the rest of the squad would have been filled with minimum wagers - definitely no Doueihi, no Lucy, no Laurie, no Ken Maumolo. Latrell can be a bludger at times - and any game he didn't turn up we would have been flogged.

We could have $10m and it wouldn't make a difference. Players don't want to play for Maguire. I wouldn't want to.

It's just a myth that people take as true because it is repeated so much on here. The vast majority of players who have played with him, here or elsewhere, say it is rubbish. Our recruiting is at least as good under Madge as his predecessors, and I would argue better.

What recruitment? We haven't signed 1 NRL player for next year. And it's not a myth that players don't want to come here. My proof: No-one is coming here.

We always make most of our signings in the offseason, every single year.

People are just getting all hysterical because we didn't turn up against the Dogs in a meaningless game with our best players missing.

They beat us 38-0. We also conceded more points than them for the entire season. And that recruitment strategy is ridiculous, because you have no control over it. You are relying on teams shifting players, which might not happen. And even if it does, you're confident we'll sign some? Why? We haven't signed anyone else?

Yes 38-0, but it was a meaningless game, with most of our best players missing. Mentally Penrith was our last game of the season, then they checked out for the year. Not defending it, but it's nothing to slit our wrists over.

As for recruiting in the offseason it's not necessarily a strategy, it's just how it happens. Nobody in a top 8 team will be signing anywhere right now, give it a few weeks and that will change. I would bet my right testicle we make a few decent signings in the next 2 months (not that it's much to gamble haha).

I can guarantee you it wasn't a nothing game for Madge - he couldn't get them up for the game though.

Which is why it's bonkers to suggest he can turn it around for next season when the vast majority of the squad is the same.

For pretty much the entire second half of the season they played like a team who had given up on the coach. Don't see him turning them around at all

It's a sad reality - some players clearly tried each week, but when half the team pulls up stumps before the ball is kicked, you're going to end up with a loss on most occasions.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall inside clubs like Melbourne and the Roosters where you just don't hear of players being unhappy - they just thrive. Someone gets injured, the replacement comes in and does their job consistently. So clearly they've built cultures, set standards and have the right staff in place who not only command respect, but deserve it.

It would be interesting to see how far we fall behind in this respect - I've got no doubt some of it is on the players as too many don't have the hunger or will to win every week, so behind the scenes obviously requires a lot of work still.

Adding to that i found Joel Caines comments on his Podcast today about Steve Morris not being able to reveal information about the Roosters as Robinson has a philosophy in place that you dont reveal information to anyone even youre father interesting. His reasoning was that this would put the pressure of that information on that individual you passed it on to.

Obviously this helps the Roosters keep it in house but it also shows the difference in our club and theirs.

They take responsibility for their own actions. Well are at least asked to by their coach.

Can you link me Caines podcast.

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9yc3Mud2hvb3Noa2FhLmNvbS9yc3MvcG9kY2FzdC9pZC8xMzMxOA/episode/YjFlNTA2YzUtOTk3MC00NGUzLTkwMmYtYTY5MzE4NDcyZGZj?ep=14

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I know everyone hates him, but does Brooks look like the trouble making type? Noffa I could see. He has attitude and a bit of ego, but Brooks? The guy has looked scared of his shadow ever since his debut. He’s never grown a voice. What you see on the field, the timid, emotionless bore is exactly who he is off field. He’s not going to be apart of any kind of mutiny. It’s not in his personality.

Did you think Aloiai to be that player? Or Matterson prior to the proverbial hitting the fan?

Just because he's meek when a camera is on him it doesn't mean he's capable of being a dick.

 

[The_Patriot]

we had enough to offer Latrell over $1m last season

We would have had enough to offer 3 Latrells $3m without the cap constraints.

And due to how constrained we were, if we did land Latrell the rest of the squad would have been filled with minimum wagers - definitely no Doueihi, no Lucy, no Laurie, no Ken Maumolo. Latrell can be a bludger at times - and any game he didn't turn up we would have been flogged.

We could have $10m and it wouldn't make a difference. Players don't want to play for Maguire. I wouldn't want to.

It's just a myth that people take as true because it is repeated so much on here. The vast majority of players who have played with him, here or elsewhere, say it is rubbish. Our recruiting is at least as good under Madge as his predecessors, and I would argue better.

What recruitment? We haven't signed 1 NRL player for next year. And it's not a myth that players don't want to come here. My proof: No-one is coming here.

We always make most of our signings in the offseason, every single year.

People are just getting all hysterical because we didn't turn up against the Dogs in a meaningless game with our best players missing.

They beat us 38-0. We also conceded more points than them for the entire season. And that recruitment strategy is ridiculous, because you have no control over it. You are relying on teams shifting players, which might not happen. And even if it does, you're confident we'll sign some? Why? We haven't signed anyone else?

Yes 38-0, but it was a meaningless game, with most of our best players missing. Mentally Penrith was our last game of the season, then they checked out for the year. Not defending it, but it's nothing to slit our wrists over.

As for recruiting in the offseason it's not necessarily a strategy, it's just how it happens. Nobody in a top 8 team will be signing anywhere right now, give it a few weeks and that will change. I would bet my right testicle we make a few decent signings in the next 2 months (not that it's much to gamble haha).

I can guarantee you it wasn't a nothing game for Madge - he couldn't get them up for the game though.

Which is why it's bonkers to suggest he can turn it around for next season when the vast majority of the squad is the same.

For pretty much the entire second half of the season they played like a team who had given up on the coach. Don't see him turning them around at all

It's a sad reality - some players clearly tried each week, but when half the team pulls up stumps before the ball is kicked, you're going to end up with a loss on most occasions.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall inside clubs like Melbourne and the Roosters where you just don't hear of players being unhappy - they just thrive. Someone gets injured, the replacement comes in and does their job consistently. So clearly they've built cultures, set standards and have the right staff in place who not only command respect, but deserve it.

It would be interesting to see how far we fall behind in this respect - I've got no doubt some of it is on the players as too many don't have the hunger or will to win every week, so behind the scenes obviously requires a lot of work still.

Adding to that i found Joel Caines comments on his Podcast today about Steve Morris not being able to reveal information about the Roosters as Robinson has a philosophy in place that you dont reveal information to anyone even youre father interesting. His reasoning was that this would put the pressure of that information on that individual you passed it on to.

Obviously this helps the Roosters keep it in house but it also shows the difference in our club and theirs.

They take responsibility for their own actions. Well are at least asked to by their coach.

and they win most weeks..........start losing and see how tight the ship is.

But that is why they win.

Such a typical Wests Tigers fan response.

They will not start losing with that sort of culture.

 

[happy_tiger]

From big sports breakfast

"I don't think the way he wants to play suits the Tigers team..."

@joshreynolds9 opened up on Michael Maguire's coaching style and why he's not the right fit for the Tigers moving forward.

LISTEN: tab.cm/3ncLJCo


Funnily enough i dont think the way Reynolds played while he was with us suited the club either.He was an overpaid non performer

Reynolds was always a bad match for Brooks ...Reynolds only looked good with Hodgkinson .....

 

[Tiger5150]

we had enough to offer Latrell over $1m last season

We would have had enough to offer 3 Latrells $3m without the cap constraints.

And due to how constrained we were, if we did land Latrell the rest of the squad would have been filled with minimum wagers - definitely no Doueihi, no Lucy, no Laurie, no Ken Maumolo. Latrell can be a bludger at times - and any game he didn't turn up we would have been flogged.

We could have $10m and it wouldn't make a difference. Players don't want to play for Maguire. I wouldn't want to.

It's just a myth that people take as true because it is repeated so much on here. The vast majority of players who have played with him, here or elsewhere, say it is rubbish. Our recruiting is at least as good under Madge as his predecessors, and I would argue better.

What recruitment? We haven't signed 1 NRL player for next year. And it's not a myth that players don't want to come here. My proof: No-one is coming here.

We always make most of our signings in the offseason, every single year.

People are just getting all hysterical because we didn't turn up against the Dogs in a meaningless game with our best players missing.

They beat us 38-0. We also conceded more points than them for the entire season. And that recruitment strategy is ridiculous, because you have no control over it. You are relying on teams shifting players, which might not happen. And even if it does, you're confident we'll sign some? Why? We haven't signed anyone else?

Yes 38-0, but it was a meaningless game, with most of our best players missing. Mentally Penrith was our last game of the season, then they checked out for the year. Not defending it, but it's nothing to slit our wrists over.

As for recruiting in the offseason it's not necessarily a strategy, it's just how it happens. Nobody in a top 8 team will be signing anywhere right now, give it a few weeks and that will change. I would bet my right testicle we make a few decent signings in the next 2 months (not that it's much to gamble haha).

I can guarantee you it wasn't a nothing game for Madge - he couldn't get them up for the game though.

Which is why it's bonkers to suggest he can turn it around for next season when the vast majority of the squad is the same.

For pretty much the entire second half of the season they played like a team who had given up on the coach. Don't see him turning them around at all

It's a sad reality - some players clearly tried each week, but when half the team pulls up stumps before the ball is kicked, you're going to end up with a loss on most occasions.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall inside clubs like Melbourne and the Roosters where you just don't hear of players being unhappy - they just thrive. Someone gets injured, the replacement comes in and does their job consistently. So clearly they've built cultures, set standards and have the right staff in place who not only command respect, but deserve it.

It would be interesting to see how far we fall behind in this respect - I've got no doubt some of it is on the players as too many don't have the hunger or will to win every week, so behind the scenes obviously requires a lot of work still.

Adding to that i found Joel Caines comments on his Podcast today about Steve Morris not being able to reveal information about the Roosters as Robinson has a philosophy in place that you dont reveal information to anyone even youre father interesting. His reasoning was that this would put the pressure of that information on that individual you passed it on to.

Obviously this helps the Roosters keep it in house but it also shows the difference in our club and theirs.

They take responsibility for their own actions. Well are at least asked to by their coach.

and they win most weeks..........start losing and see how tight the ship is.


But that is why they win.

Such a typical Wests Tigers fan response.

They will not start losing with that sort of culture.

But but but ......sombrerooooooooooo..........

Mate Im with you. They are a great team. Run well in the frnt office, great coach, great spirit, great culture.

For mine their effort to nearly make the 4 with the amount of injuries they had this year was the performance of the season.

 

[The_Patriot]

we had enough to offer Latrell over $1m last season

We would have had enough to offer 3 Latrells $3m without the cap constraints.

And due to how constrained we were, if we did land Latrell the rest of the squad would have been filled with minimum wagers - definitely no Doueihi, no Lucy, no Laurie, no Ken Maumolo. Latrell can be a bludger at times - and any game he didn't turn up we would have been flogged.

We could have $10m and it wouldn't make a difference. Players don't want to play for Maguire. I wouldn't want to.

It's just a myth that people take as true because it is repeated so much on here. The vast majority of players who have played with him, here or elsewhere, say it is rubbish. Our recruiting is at least as good under Madge as his predecessors, and I would argue better.

What recruitment? We haven't signed 1 NRL player for next year. And it's not a myth that players don't want to come here. My proof: No-one is coming here.

We always make most of our signings in the offseason, every single year.

People are just getting all hysterical because we didn't turn up against the Dogs in a meaningless game with our best players missing.

They beat us 38-0. We also conceded more points than them for the entire season. And that recruitment strategy is ridiculous, because you have no control over it. You are relying on teams shifting players, which might not happen. And even if it does, you're confident we'll sign some? Why? We haven't signed anyone else?

Yes 38-0, but it was a meaningless game, with most of our best players missing. Mentally Penrith was our last game of the season, then they checked out for the year. Not defending it, but it's nothing to slit our wrists over.

As for recruiting in the offseason it's not necessarily a strategy, it's just how it happens. Nobody in a top 8 team will be signing anywhere right now, give it a few weeks and that will change. I would bet my right testicle we make a few decent signings in the next 2 months (not that it's much to gamble haha).

I can guarantee you it wasn't a nothing game for Madge - he couldn't get them up for the game though.

Which is why it's bonkers to suggest he can turn it around for next season when the vast majority of the squad is the same.

For pretty much the entire second half of the season they played like a team who had given up on the coach. Don't see him turning them around at all

It's a sad reality - some players clearly tried each week, but when half the team pulls up stumps before the ball is kicked, you're going to end up with a loss on most occasions.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall inside clubs like Melbourne and the Roosters where you just don't hear of players being unhappy - they just thrive. Someone gets injured, the replacement comes in and does their job consistently. So clearly they've built cultures, set standards and have the right staff in place who not only command respect, but deserve it.

It would be interesting to see how far we fall behind in this respect - I've got no doubt some of it is on the players as too many don't have the hunger or will to win every week, so behind the scenes obviously requires a lot of work still.

Adding to that i found Joel Caines comments on his Podcast today about Steve Morris not being able to reveal information about the Roosters as Robinson has a philosophy in place that you dont reveal information to anyone even youre father interesting. His reasoning was that this would put the pressure of that information on that individual you passed it on to.

Obviously this helps the Roosters keep it in house but it also shows the difference in our club and theirs.

They take responsibility for their own actions. Well are at least asked to by their coach.

and they win most weeks..........start losing and see how tight the ship is.


But that is why they win.

Such a typical Wests Tigers fan response.

They will not start losing with that sort of culture.

But but but ......sombrerooooooooooo..........

Mate Im with you. They are a great team. Run well in the frnt office, great coach, great spirit, great culture.

For mine their effort to nearly make the 4 with the amount of injuries they had this year was the performance of the season.

Finally agree with you on something.

We are doing well!

 

[Tiger5150]

we had enough to offer Latrell over $1m last season

We would have had enough to offer 3 Latrells $3m without the cap constraints.

And due to how constrained we were, if we did land Latrell the rest of the squad would have been filled with minimum wagers - definitely no Doueihi, no Lucy, no Laurie, no Ken Maumolo. Latrell can be a bludger at times - and any game he didn't turn up we would have been flogged.

We could have $10m and it wouldn't make a difference. Players don't want to play for Maguire. I wouldn't want to.

It's just a myth that people take as true because it is repeated so much on here. The vast majority of players who have played with him, here or elsewhere, say it is rubbish. Our recruiting is at least as good under Madge as his predecessors, and I would argue better.

What recruitment? We haven't signed 1 NRL player for next year. And it's not a myth that players don't want to come here. My proof: No-one is coming here.

We always make most of our signings in the offseason, every single year.

People are just getting all hysterical because we didn't turn up against the Dogs in a meaningless game with our best players missing.

They beat us 38-0. We also conceded more points than them for the entire season. And that recruitment strategy is ridiculous, because you have no control over it. You are relying on teams shifting players, which might not happen. And even if it does, you're confident we'll sign some? Why? We haven't signed anyone else?

Yes 38-0, but it was a meaningless game, with most of our best players missing. Mentally Penrith was our last game of the season, then they checked out for the year. Not defending it, but it's nothing to slit our wrists over.

As for recruiting in the offseason it's not necessarily a strategy, it's just how it happens. Nobody in a top 8 team will be signing anywhere right now, give it a few weeks and that will change. I would bet my right testicle we make a few decent signings in the next 2 months (not that it's much to gamble haha).

I can guarantee you it wasn't a nothing game for Madge - he couldn't get them up for the game though.

Which is why it's bonkers to suggest he can turn it around for next season when the vast majority of the squad is the same.

For pretty much the entire second half of the season they played like a team who had given up on the coach. Don't see him turning them around at all

It's a sad reality - some players clearly tried each week, but when half the team pulls up stumps before the ball is kicked, you're going to end up with a loss on most occasions.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall inside clubs like Melbourne and the Roosters where you just don't hear of players being unhappy - they just thrive. Someone gets injured, the replacement comes in and does their job consistently. So clearly they've built cultures, set standards and have the right staff in place who not only command respect, but deserve it.

It would be interesting to see how far we fall behind in this respect - I've got no doubt some of it is on the players as too many don't have the hunger or will to win every week, so behind the scenes obviously requires a lot of work still.

Adding to that i found Joel Caines comments on his Podcast today about Steve Morris not being able to reveal information about the Roosters as Robinson has a philosophy in place that you dont reveal information to anyone even youre father interesting. His reasoning was that this would put the pressure of that information on that individual you passed it on to.

Obviously this helps the Roosters keep it in house but it also shows the difference in our club and theirs.

They take responsibility for their own actions. Well are at least asked to by their coach.

and they win most weeks..........start losing and see how tight the ship is.


But that is why they win.

Such a typical Wests Tigers fan response.

They will not start losing with that sort of culture.

But but but ......sombrerooooooooooo..........

Mate Im with you. They are a great team. Run well in the frnt office, great coach, great spirit, great culture.

For mine their effort to nearly make the 4 with the amount of injuries they had this year was the performance of the season.


Finally agree with you on something.

We are doing well!

Dont get used to it....

 

[BAGNF05]

So I just listened to the podcast from Joel Caine at "Drive with Joel & Fletch" and it goes for like 9 mins. This is a 100% must watch as he hits the nail on the head about our situation.
Do yourself a favour and look it up and have a listen.
Madge should be the first one kept and daylight 2nd..
From today and it;s called WestsTigers Honesty Session

The boys over on wests life reckon the same thing

If you side with this pea heart roster over Madge you should go support softball

two things can be true at once.

Yeah front office review is going the way of our footy side.

I meant that our squad could be pea hearts and Madge is not up to it.

Dangerous to think in absolutes.

Can we give him a go without the pea hearts or will we just guess to save a few jobs in the admin area.

 

[Needaname]

we had enough to offer Latrell over $1m last season

We would have had enough to offer 3 Latrells $3m without the cap constraints.

And due to how constrained we were, if we did land Latrell the rest of the squad would have been filled with minimum wagers - definitely no Doueihi, no Lucy, no Laurie, no Ken Maumolo. Latrell can be a bludger at times - and any game he didn't turn up we would have been flogged.

We could have $10m and it wouldn't make a difference. Players don't want to play for Maguire. I wouldn't want to.

It's just a myth that people take as true because it is repeated so much on here. The vast majority of players who have played with him, here or elsewhere, say it is rubbish. Our recruiting is at least as good under Madge as his predecessors, and I would argue better.

What recruitment? We haven't signed 1 NRL player for next year. And it's not a myth that players don't want to come here. My proof: No-one is coming here.

We always make most of our signings in the offseason, every single year.

People are just getting all hysterical because we didn't turn up against the Dogs in a meaningless game with our best players missing.

They beat us 38-0. We also conceded more points than them for the entire season. And that recruitment strategy is ridiculous, because you have no control over it. You are relying on teams shifting players, which might not happen. And even if it does, you're confident we'll sign some? Why? We haven't signed anyone else?

Yes 38-0, but it was a meaningless game, with most of our best players missing. Mentally Penrith was our last game of the season, then they checked out for the year. Not defending it, but it's nothing to slit our wrists over.

As for recruiting in the offseason it's not necessarily a strategy, it's just how it happens. Nobody in a top 8 team will be signing anywhere right now, give it a few weeks and that will change. I would bet my right testicle we make a few decent signings in the next 2 months (not that it's much to gamble haha).

I can guarantee you it wasn't a nothing game for Madge - he couldn't get them up for the game though.

Which is why it's bonkers to suggest he can turn it around for next season when the vast majority of the squad is the same.

For pretty much the entire second half of the season they played like a team who had given up on the coach. Don't see him turning them around at all

It's a sad reality - some players clearly tried each week, but when half the team pulls up stumps before the ball is kicked, you're going to end up with a loss on most occasions.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall inside clubs like Melbourne and the Roosters where you just don't hear of players being unhappy - they just thrive. Someone gets injured, the replacement comes in and does their job consistently. So clearly they've built cultures, set standards and have the right staff in place who not only command respect, but deserve it.

It would be interesting to see how far we fall behind in this respect - I've got no doubt some of it is on the players as too many don't have the hunger or will to win every week, so behind the scenes obviously requires a lot of work still.

Adding to that i found Joel Caines comments on his Podcast today about Steve Morris not being able to reveal information about the Roosters as Robinson has a philosophy in place that you dont reveal information to anyone even youre father interesting. His reasoning was that this would put the pressure of that information on that individual you passed it on to.

Obviously this helps the Roosters keep it in house but it also shows the difference in our club and theirs.

They take responsibility for their own actions. Well are at least asked to by their coach.

Pretty self explanatory really.
Have you ever been told a secret and think ohh juicy, then told oh this is confidential?
Every time that’s happened in the past I’m hating the person for telling me the secret and despite knowing something that others don’t I’d prefer not to find out at all.
I’d say not one person in our club would act accordingly re keeping ‘Staunch’.

 

[supercoach]

I can live with Madge holding the clip board for another year, but nothing will change to we get some real leadership on and off the field.

If we don’t get some real quality people driving success next year we might not win a game. I really don’t know where we are going to source the players, assistant coaches and administrators from who have these qualities but at present our cupboards are bare.

It would not matter who is coaching the joint, things will not change while we have weak leadership scattered all through the joint. No coach can drive success on his own.

In saying all the above, if there is a coach out there that can attract leaders to our club, than I would not hesitate in saying, “see you later “ to Madge.

 

[tig_prmz]

I know everyone hates him, but does Brooks look like the trouble making type? Noffa I could see. He has attitude and a bit of ego, but Brooks? The guy has looked scared of his shadow ever since his debut. He’s never grown a voice. What you see on the field, the timid, emotionless bore is exactly who he is off field. He’s not going to be apart of any kind of mutiny. It’s not in his personality.

Did you think Aloiai to be that player? Or Matterson prior to the proverbial hitting the fan?

Just because he's meek when a camera is on him it doesn't mean he's capable of being a **dick**.

didn't realise we could say that on here.

This will definitely help me express myself better :blush:

 

[TieDye]

I know everyone hates him, but does Brooks look like the trouble making type? Noffa I could see. He has attitude and a bit of ego, but Brooks? The guy has looked scared of his shadow ever since his debut. He’s never grown a voice. What you see on the field, the timid, emotionless bore is exactly who he is off field. He’s not going to be apart of any kind of mutiny. It’s not in his personality.

Did you think Aloiai to be that player? Or Matterson prior to the proverbial hitting the fan?

Just because he's meek when a camera is on him it doesn't mean he's capable of being a **dick**.

didn't realise we could say that on here.

This will definitely help me express myself better :blush:

Great idea by the mods during covid 😉

 

[TigerWest]

we had enough to offer Latrell over $1m last season

We would have had enough to offer 3 Latrells $3m without the cap constraints.

And due to how constrained we were, if we did land Latrell the rest of the squad would have been filled with minimum wagers - definitely no Doueihi, no Lucy, no Laurie, no Ken Maumolo. Latrell can be a bludger at times - and any game he didn't turn up we would have been flogged.

We could have $10m and it wouldn't make a difference. Players don't want to play for Maguire. I wouldn't want to.

It's just a myth that people take as true because it is repeated so much on here. The vast majority of players who have played with him, here or elsewhere, say it is rubbish. Our recruiting is at least as good under Madge as his predecessors, and I would argue better.

What recruitment? We haven't signed 1 NRL player for next year. And it's not a myth that players don't want to come here. My proof: No-one is coming here.

We always make most of our signings in the offseason, every single year.

People are just getting all hysterical because we didn't turn up against the Dogs in a meaningless game with our best players missing.

They beat us 38-0. We also conceded more points than them for the entire season. And that recruitment strategy is ridiculous, because you have no control over it. You are relying on teams shifting players, which might not happen. And even if it does, you're confident we'll sign some? Why? We haven't signed anyone else?

Yes 38-0, but it was a meaningless game, with most of our best players missing. Mentally Penrith was our last game of the season, then they checked out for the year. Not defending it, but it's nothing to slit our wrists over.

As for recruiting in the offseason it's not necessarily a strategy, it's just how it happens. Nobody in a top 8 team will be signing anywhere right now, give it a few weeks and that will change. I would bet my right testicle we make a few decent signings in the next 2 months (not that it's much to gamble haha).

I can guarantee you it wasn't a nothing game for Madge - he couldn't get them up for the game though.

Which is why it's bonkers to suggest he can turn it around for next season when the vast majority of the squad is the same.

For pretty much the entire second half of the season they played like a team who had given up on the coach. Don't see him turning them around at all

It's a sad reality - some players clearly tried each week, but when half the team pulls up stumps before the ball is kicked, you're going to end up with a loss on most occasions.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall inside clubs like Melbourne and the Roosters where you just don't hear of players being unhappy - they just thrive. Someone gets injured, the replacement comes in and does their job consistently. So clearly they've built cultures, set standards and have the right staff in place who not only command respect, but deserve it.

It would be interesting to see how far we fall behind in this respect - I've got no doubt some of it is on the players as too many don't have the hunger or will to win every week, so behind the scenes obviously requires a lot of work still.

Adding to that i found Joel Caines comments on his Podcast today about Steve Morris not being able to reveal information about the Roosters as Robinson has a philosophy in place that you dont reveal information to anyone even youre father interesting. His reasoning was that this would put the pressure of that information on that individual you passed it on to.

Obviously this helps the Roosters keep it in house but it also shows the difference in our club and theirs.

They take responsibility for their own actions. Well are at least asked to by their coach.

Pretty self explanatory really.
Have you ever been told a secret and think ohh juicy, then told oh this is confidential?
Every time that’s happened in the past I’m hating the person for telling me the secret and despite knowing something that others don’t I’d prefer not to find out at all.
I’d say not one person in our club would act accordingly re keeping ‘Staunch’.

I thought the leaking of internal stuff was pretty much a non event these days?

 

[TillLindemann]

As should be obvious I am pro-Madge, so I am not suggesting this for next season, but I think a few years down the track Brett Hodgson would make the perfect coach for us. Club legend obviously, has good experience working with our younger players and knows our set up well, and is now gaining experience as a head coach with Hull. Has always had a good attitude too, he would be a good balance of pushing the players to work hard while being fairly down to earth at the same time. Him and Sheens would be a good combo.

 

[Guest]

‘I don’t think it suits the Tigers’: Reynolds reveals Madge flaw as sack looms
Staff Writers from Fox Sports
September 9th, 2021 10:22 pm

Former Tigers playmaker Josh Reynolds has claimed his old club have failed to recruit a team that fits Michael Maguire’s coaching style in a move that is likely to cost the ex-Souths coach his job.

Maguire is facing the axe after finish 13th on the ladder with just eight wins with the Tigers’ lack of defensive resolve in their Round 25 loss to the Bulldogs a lightning rod for the club to kick off a review.

Reynolds, who left Concord for Hull FC last season, suggested Maguire had also struggled to adapt to the modern game after winning titles in England and Australia.

“They’re (Tigers) at a bit off a crossroads,” Reynolds told The Big Sports Breakfast.

“They either stick with Madge, but then they haven’t really bought too many different players … they brought Jackson Hastings in and I think he will add a bit to the squad, but not sure where he’s going to play.

“Me and Madge had a very honest relationship. He was honest with me … but I don’t think sometimes the way he wants to play suits the Tigers team.

“I had this conversation with one of the boys over here today about Madge when he was with the Wigan side.

“He said, when you had (Sam) Tomkins out the back of the play, that the Tigers are playing – he was unstoppable when they won the competition [in 2010]. It obviously suited that Wigan side, but I don’t think it suits the Tigers.”

Reynolds also said players were likely to be affected by the constant talk of their finals drought.

The former Bulldogs playmaker also leapt to the defence Luke Brooks who has often been a target for criticism.

“It’s a confidence thing, all they (Tigers) hear about is not making the semis,” he added.

“I think personally they still have got a fairly good squad. Whether Madge is the man there or if they go in another direction.

“Even the players, the players probably want some to change. You’ve got guys like (Luke) Brooks there – he gets the blame a lot of the time for a lot of their woes, but I watch him play and he puts his body on the line body puts his heart on the line. He cops a lot of the brunt.

“You’ve got to put players around him, I think his best footy is ahead of him.”

 

[twentyforty]

we had enough to offer Latrell over $1m last season

We would have had enough to offer 3 Latrells $3m without the cap constraints.

And due to how constrained we were, if we did land Latrell the rest of the squad would have been filled with minimum wagers - definitely no Doueihi, no Lucy, no Laurie, no Ken Maumolo. Latrell can be a bludger at times - and any game he didn't turn up we would have been flogged.

We could have $10m and it wouldn't make a difference. Players don't want to play for Maguire. I wouldn't want to.

It's just a myth that people take as true because it is repeated so much on here. The vast majority of players who have played with him, here or elsewhere, say it is rubbish. Our recruiting is at least as good under Madge as his predecessors, and I would argue better.

What recruitment? We haven't signed 1 NRL player for next year. And it's not a myth that players don't want to come here. My proof: No-one is coming here.

We always make most of our signings in the offseason, every single year.

People are just getting all hysterical because we didn't turn up against the Dogs in a meaningless game with our best players missing.

They beat us 38-0. We also conceded more points than them for the entire season. And that recruitment strategy is ridiculous, because you have no control over it. You are relying on teams shifting players, which might not happen. And even if it does, you're confident we'll sign some? Why? We haven't signed anyone else?

Yes 38-0, but it was a meaningless game, with most of our best players missing. Mentally Penrith was our last game of the season, then they checked out for the year. Not defending it, but it's nothing to slit our wrists over.

As for recruiting in the offseason it's not necessarily a strategy, it's just how it happens. Nobody in a top 8 team will be signing anywhere right now, give it a few weeks and that will change. I would bet my right testicle we make a few decent signings in the next 2 months (not that it's much to gamble haha).

I can guarantee you it wasn't a nothing game for Madge - he couldn't get them up for the game though.

Which is why it's bonkers to suggest he can turn it around for next season when the vast majority of the squad is the same.

For pretty much the entire second half of the season they played like a team who had given up on the coach. Don't see him turning them around at all

It's a sad reality - some players clearly tried each week, but when half the team pulls up stumps before the ball is kicked, you're going to end up with a loss on most occasions.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall inside clubs like Melbourne and the Roosters where you just don't hear of players being unhappy - they just thrive. Someone gets injured, the replacement comes in and does their job consistently. So clearly they've built cultures, set standards and have the right staff in place who not only command respect, but deserve it.

It would be interesting to see how far we fall behind in this respect - I've got no doubt some of it is on the players as too many don't have the hunger or will to win every week, so behind the scenes obviously requires a lot of work still.

Adding to that i found Joel Caines comments on his Podcast today about Steve Morris not being able to reveal information about the Roosters as Robinson has a philosophy in place that you dont reveal information to anyone even youre father interesting. His reasoning was that this would put the pressure of that information on that individual you passed it on to.

Obviously this helps the Roosters keep it in house but it also shows the difference in our club and theirs.

They take responsibility for their own actions. Well are at least asked to by their coach.

Pretty self explanatory really.
Have you ever been told a secret and think ohh juicy, then told oh this is confidential?
Every time that’s happened in the past I’m hating the person for telling me the secret and despite knowing something that others don’t I’d prefer not to find out at all.
I’d say not one person in our club would act accordingly re keeping ‘Staunch’.

I thought the leaking of internal stuff was pretty much a non event these days?

There are WT players in every club who have slammed the door on the way out, these guys obviously maintain contact? Does Benji stop talking to Brooksy?
I found more respect for Packer after he shirtfronted Matterson hehehe. I’ve often wondered how much influence our ex players at other clubs have with our current roster?

 

[TigerWest]

we had enough to offer Latrell over $1m last season

We would have had enough to offer 3 Latrells $3m without the cap constraints.

And due to how constrained we were, if we did land Latrell the rest of the squad would have been filled with minimum wagers - definitely no Doueihi, no Lucy, no Laurie, no Ken Maumolo. Latrell can be a bludger at times - and any game he didn't turn up we would have been flogged.

We could have $10m and it wouldn't make a difference. Players don't want to play for Maguire. I wouldn't want to.

It's just a myth that people take as true because it is repeated so much on here. The vast majority of players who have played with him, here or elsewhere, say it is rubbish. Our recruiting is at least as good under Madge as his predecessors, and I would argue better.

What recruitment? We haven't signed 1 NRL player for next year. And it's not a myth that players don't want to come here. My proof: No-one is coming here.

We always make most of our signings in the offseason, every single year.

People are just getting all hysterical because we didn't turn up against the Dogs in a meaningless game with our best players missing.

They beat us 38-0. We also conceded more points than them for the entire season. And that recruitment strategy is ridiculous, because you have no control over it. You are relying on teams shifting players, which might not happen. And even if it does, you're confident we'll sign some? Why? We haven't signed anyone else?

Yes 38-0, but it was a meaningless game, with most of our best players missing. Mentally Penrith was our last game of the season, then they checked out for the year. Not defending it, but it's nothing to slit our wrists over.

As for recruiting in the offseason it's not necessarily a strategy, it's just how it happens. Nobody in a top 8 team will be signing anywhere right now, give it a few weeks and that will change. I would bet my right testicle we make a few decent signings in the next 2 months (not that it's much to gamble haha).

I can guarantee you it wasn't a nothing game for Madge - he couldn't get them up for the game though.

Which is why it's bonkers to suggest he can turn it around for next season when the vast majority of the squad is the same.

For pretty much the entire second half of the season they played like a team who had given up on the coach. Don't see him turning them around at all

It's a sad reality - some players clearly tried each week, but when half the team pulls up stumps before the ball is kicked, you're going to end up with a loss on most occasions.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall inside clubs like Melbourne and the Roosters where you just don't hear of players being unhappy - they just thrive. Someone gets injured, the replacement comes in and does their job consistently. So clearly they've built cultures, set standards and have the right staff in place who not only command respect, but deserve it.

It would be interesting to see how far we fall behind in this respect - I've got no doubt some of it is on the players as too many don't have the hunger or will to win every week, so behind the scenes obviously requires a lot of work still.

Adding to that i found Joel Caines comments on his Podcast today about Steve Morris not being able to reveal information about the Roosters as Robinson has a philosophy in place that you dont reveal information to anyone even youre father interesting. His reasoning was that this would put the pressure of that information on that individual you passed it on to.

Obviously this helps the Roosters keep it in house but it also shows the difference in our club and theirs.

They take responsibility for their own actions. Well are at least asked to by their coach.

Pretty self explanatory really.
Have you ever been told a secret and think ohh juicy, then told oh this is confidential?
Every time that’s happened in the past I’m hating the person for telling me the secret and despite knowing something that others don’t I’d prefer not to find out at all.
I’d say not one person in our club would act accordingly re keeping ‘Staunch’.

I thought the leaking of internal stuff was pretty much a non event these days?


There are WT players in every club who have slammed the door on the way out, these guys obviously maintain contact? Does Benji stop talking to Brooksy?
I found more respect for Packer after he shirtfronted Matterson hehehe. I’ve often wondered how much influence our ex players at other clubs have with our current roster?

That's true, I believe I read that JAC was talked out of coming here by other players? I guess the dogs offer (wasn't as convulted as ours?) didn't hurt either?

 

[hodgo]

https://youtu.be/gohGbY_xvf8

Very good response by Joel caine

 

[851]

So tyga says his mate thinks there is a divide in the playing group not sure if real but take it with a grain of salt. Now the whole forum goes bonkers of a rumour, funny how this all comes out just before sacking some staff. Was so quiet all year long not a peep.

And suddenly everyone is backing the coach. Weird ?

Not me, if I had seen some improvement over the 3 years he has been here, or he attracted some quality signings then yeah, but I have seen nothing to suggest he is in any way improving the team