Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346648) said:
@dgilly said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346645) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346640) said:
@dgilly said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346633) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346628) said:
@pjaslr5000 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1345617) said:
I believe Shane Flananang should be made head coach. He is a strong defensive coach a gets the most out of his players and is looking for any opportunity?

Don't want him anywhere near the club.

Beggars can't be choosers. I'd take anyone at this stage. Flanno won a comp and players love him.

They cheated to win that comp and it should have been stripped, no thank you.

Everyone's cheating

That is what losers always say.

Lmao give me a successful team in any code that doesn't at least bend the rules. It's how the world works mate.
 
@mike said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346613) said:
@tcat said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346556) said:
How about sack Pascoe? Hes the CEO of the worst club in the NRL. In private industry, how long does the CEO ride out the inability to reach its KPIs? The head of the snake must be chopped off. See ya Pascoe and board you're next. You can't keep sacking coaches if the looser disease is infested deep within the organisation.

What's his KPI's? Do you know or just assuming? The Board would set those. How do you know he is not meeting them?

I'm only assuming of course as I have not read the legaiities his contract in relation to his KPIs. My guess would be that the CEO of the least performing NRL club in the NRL would have to have some on field performance element to it as the CEO governs the strategic direction of the organisation and that primarily relates to its core business... on field success. I'm sure if the CEO of bloody fruit shop stopped successfully selling fruit the business would go under. Oh, hang on, suckers walk into the shop occasionally tho.
 
@dgilly said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346654) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346648) said:
@dgilly said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346645) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346640) said:
@dgilly said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346633) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346628) said:
@pjaslr5000 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1345617) said:
I believe Shane Flananang should be made head coach. He is a strong defensive coach a gets the most out of his players and is looking for any opportunity?

Don't want him anywhere near the club.

Beggars can't be choosers. I'd take anyone at this stage. Flanno won a comp and players love him.

They cheated to win that comp and it should have been stripped, no thank you.

Everyone's cheating

That is what losers always say.

Lmao give me a successful team in any code that doesn't at least bend the rules. It's how the world works mate.

Juicing up your players and setting up dodgy companies to pay players outside the cap is not bending the rules. He couldn't even abide to his suspension.
 
@tcat said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346655) said:
@mike said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346613) said:
@tcat said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346556) said:
How about sack Pascoe? Hes the CEO of the worst club in the NRL. In private industry, how long does the CEO ride out the inability to reach its KPIs? The head of the snake must be chopped off. See ya Pascoe and board you're next. You can't keep sacking coaches if the looser disease is infested deep within the organisation.

What's his KPI's? Do you know or just assuming? The Board would set those. How do you know he is not meeting them?

I'm only assuming of course as I have not read the legaiities his contract in relation to his KPIs. My guess would be that the CEO of the least performing NRL club in the NRL would have to have some on field performance element to it as the CEO governs the strategic direction of the organisation and that primarily relates to its core business... on field success. I'm sure if the CEO of bloody fruit shop stopped successfully selling fruit the business would go under. Oh, hang on, suckers walk into the shop occasionally tho.

I doubt that, the majority of his KPI's would be in regards to how the business side runs. The football manager and coach's KPIs would be more geared to onfield success.
 
@tcat said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346655) said:
@mike said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346613) said:
@tcat said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346556) said:
How about sack Pascoe? Hes the CEO of the worst club in the NRL. In private industry, how long does the CEO ride out the inability to reach its KPIs? The head of the snake must be chopped off. See ya Pascoe and board you're next. You can't keep sacking coaches if the looser disease is infested deep within the organisation.

What's his KPI's? Do you know or just assuming? The Board would set those. How do you know he is not meeting them?

I'm only assuming of course as I have not read the legaiities his contract in relation to his KPIs. My guess would be that the CEO of the least performing NRL club in the NRL would have to have some on field performance element to it as the CEO governs the strategic direction of the organisation and that primarily relates to its core business... on field success. I'm sure if the CEO of bloody fruit shop stopped successfully selling fruit the business would go under. Oh, hang on, suckers walk into the shop occasionally tho.

He could be meeting every KPI the board has set for him.

No the Board governs the strategic direction of an organisation. The Board is the organisation not the CEO. The CEO does what the Board wants.

It is different in a small business where the owner does the job of the Board and CEO. Corporations don't work like that.
 
@mike said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346662) said:
@tcat said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346655) said:
@mike said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346613) said:
@tcat said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346556) said:
How about sack Pascoe? Hes the CEO of the worst club in the NRL. In private industry, how long does the CEO ride out the inability to reach its KPIs? The head of the snake must be chopped off. See ya Pascoe and board you're next. You can't keep sacking coaches if the looser disease is infested deep within the organisation.

What's his KPI's? Do you know or just assuming? The Board would set those. How do you know he is not meeting them?

I'm only assuming of course as I have not read the legaiities his contract in relation to his KPIs. My guess would be that the CEO of the least performing NRL club in the NRL would have to have some on field performance element to it as the CEO governs the strategic direction of the organisation and that primarily relates to its core business... on field success. I'm sure if the CEO of bloody fruit shop stopped successfully selling fruit the business would go under. Oh, hang on, suckers walk into the shop occasionally tho.

He could be meeting every KPI the board has set for him.

No the Board governs the strategic direction of an organisation. The Board is the organisation not the CEO. The CEO does what the Board wants.

It is different in a small business where the owner does the job of the Board and CEO. Corporations don't work like that.

Yeah mate, not all organisations work exactly the same but in simple terms the boards sets the strategic direction of the club and the CEO responsibility is the achievement of those directions.

In a football club I would think the CEO would be responsible for the corporate and financial side of the business while the Football Manager is responsible for the football side of things with the coach sitting below him.
 
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346660) said:
@tcat said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346655) said:
@mike said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346613) said:
@tcat said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346556) said:
How about sack Pascoe? Hes the CEO of the worst club in the NRL. In private industry, how long does the CEO ride out the inability to reach its KPIs? The head of the snake must be chopped off. See ya Pascoe and board you're next. You can't keep sacking coaches if the looser disease is infested deep within the organisation.

What's his KPI's? Do you know or just assuming? The Board would set those. How do you know he is not meeting them?

I'm only assuming of course as I have not read the legaiities his contract in relation to his KPIs. My guess would be that the CEO of the least performing NRL club in the NRL would have to have some on field performance element to it as the CEO governs the strategic direction of the organisation and that primarily relates to its core business... on field success. I'm sure if the CEO of bloody fruit shop stopped successfully selling fruit the business would go under. Oh, hang on, suckers walk into the shop occasionally tho.

I doubt that, the majority of his KPI's would be in regards to how the business side runs. The football manager and coach's KPIs would be more geared to onfield success.

Tip from a little guy to a big guy (Pascoe), the Wests tigers business will go better if we actually win games. Last I checked we are a footy club.
 
@tigerpete-0 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346367) said:
The club has not asked why could we not keep quality? How many quality Penrith juniors leave the club?

Daine Laurie
Matt Burton
Kaide Ellis
Wayde Egan
Waqa Blake
RCG
Tyrone Peachey
Blake Austin
Luke Lewis
Wade Graham
Frank Pritchard
Paul Whatuira

Penrith leak lots of juniors, they have a very large catchment.

Also Marty Taupau isn't a Tigers junior, nor is JAC. Fifita technically also isn't a Tigers junior as he was picked up to join NYC from Griffith.
 
@mike said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346662) said:
@tcat said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346655) said:
@mike said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346613) said:
@tcat said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346556) said:
How about sack Pascoe? Hes the CEO of the worst club in the NRL. In private industry, how long does the CEO ride out the inability to reach its KPIs? The head of the snake must be chopped off. See ya Pascoe and board you're next. You can't keep sacking coaches if the looser disease is infested deep within the organisation.

What's his KPI's? Do you know or just assuming? The Board would set those. How do you know he is not meeting them?

I'm only assuming of course as I have not read the legaiities his contract in relation to his KPIs. My guess would be that the CEO of the least performing NRL club in the NRL would have to have some on field performance element to it as the CEO governs the strategic direction of the organisation and that primarily relates to its core business... on field success. I'm sure if the CEO of bloody fruit shop stopped successfully selling fruit the business would go under. Oh, hang on, suckers walk into the shop occasionally tho.

He could be meeting every KPI the board has set for him.

No the Board governs the strategic direction of an organisation. The Board is the organisation not the CEO. The CEO does what the Board wants.

It is different in a small business where the owner does the job of the Board and CEO. Corporations don't work like that.

So the board need to go them because the board are allowing this club the rot away under the direction of the CEO.
 
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346671) said:
@mike said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346662) said:
@tcat said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346655) said:
@mike said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346613) said:
@tcat said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346556) said:
How about sack Pascoe? Hes the CEO of the worst club in the NRL. In private industry, how long does the CEO ride out the inability to reach its KPIs? The head of the snake must be chopped off. See ya Pascoe and board you're next. You can't keep sacking coaches if the looser disease is infested deep within the organisation.

What's his KPI's? Do you know or just assuming? The Board would set those. How do you know he is not meeting them?

I'm only assuming of course as I have not read the legaiities his contract in relation to his KPIs. My guess would be that the CEO of the least performing NRL club in the NRL would have to have some on field performance element to it as the CEO governs the strategic direction of the organisation and that primarily relates to its core business... on field success. I'm sure if the CEO of bloody fruit shop stopped successfully selling fruit the business would go under. Oh, hang on, suckers walk into the shop occasionally tho.

He could be meeting every KPI the board has set for him.

No the Board governs the strategic direction of an organisation. The Board is the organisation not the CEO. The CEO does what the Board wants.

It is different in a small business where the owner does the job of the Board and CEO. Corporations don't work like that.

Yeah mate, not all organisations work exactly the same but in simple terms the boards sets the strategic direction of the club and the CEO responsibility is the achievement of those directions.

In a football club I would think the CEO would be responsible for the corporate and financial side of the business while the Football Manager is responsible for the football side of things with the coach sitting below him.

Exactly right.
 
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346671) said:
@mike said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346662) said:
@tcat said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346655) said:
@mike said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346613) said:
@tcat said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346556) said:
How about sack Pascoe? Hes the CEO of the worst club in the NRL. In private industry, how long does the CEO ride out the inability to reach its KPIs? The head of the snake must be chopped off. See ya Pascoe and board you're next. You can't keep sacking coaches if the looser disease is infested deep within the organisation.

What's his KPI's? Do you know or just assuming? The Board would set those. How do you know he is not meeting them?

I'm only assuming of course as I have not read the legaiities his contract in relation to his KPIs. My guess would be that the CEO of the least performing NRL club in the NRL would have to have some on field performance element to it as the CEO governs the strategic direction of the organisation and that primarily relates to its core business... on field success. I'm sure if the CEO of bloody fruit shop stopped successfully selling fruit the business would go under. Oh, hang on, suckers walk into the shop occasionally tho.

He could be meeting every KPI the board has set for him.

No the Board governs the strategic direction of an organisation. The Board is the organisation not the CEO. The CEO does what the Board wants.

It is different in a small business where the owner does the job of the Board and CEO. Corporations don't work like that.

Yeah mate, not all organisations work exactly the same but in simple terms the boards sets the strategic direction of the club and the CEO responsibility is the achievement of those directions.

In a football club I would think the CEO would be responsible for the corporate and financial side of the business while the Football Manager is responsible for the football side of things with the coach sitting below him.

So Hartigan could decide to terminate Maguire's appointment?
 
@bagnf05 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346673) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346660) said:
@tcat said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346655) said:
@mike said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346613) said:
@tcat said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346556) said:
How about sack Pascoe? Hes the CEO of the worst club in the NRL. In private industry, how long does the CEO ride out the inability to reach its KPIs? The head of the snake must be chopped off. See ya Pascoe and board you're next. You can't keep sacking coaches if the looser disease is infested deep within the organisation.

What's his KPI's? Do you know or just assuming? The Board would set those. How do you know he is not meeting them?

I'm only assuming of course as I have not read the legaiities his contract in relation to his KPIs. My guess would be that the CEO of the least performing NRL club in the NRL would have to have some on field performance element to it as the CEO governs the strategic direction of the organisation and that primarily relates to its core business... on field success. I'm sure if the CEO of bloody fruit shop stopped successfully selling fruit the business would go under. Oh, hang on, suckers walk into the shop occasionally tho.

I doubt that, the majority of his KPI's would be in regards to how the business side runs. The football manager and coach's KPIs would be more geared to onfield success.

Tip from a little guy to a big guy, the Wests tigers business will go better if we actually win games. Last I checked we are a footy club.

Of course it would.
 
@jc99 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346652) said:
Club officials denying any crisis meetings. Probably means he's gone 😂

That usually means he's Gonski
 
Big name players aren't coming here because we've been a basketcase of a club for near a decade, not our coach's methods.
We're a club who has lost some of their most talented juniors due to recruitment blunders or their impatience of not playing finals footy. Plus we have a penchance for sacking coaches.
No offence but we'd have to be considered one of the least desirable club for coaches and players alike.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346679) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346671) said:
@mike said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346662) said:
@tcat said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346655) said:
@mike said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346613) said:
@tcat said in [Sack Madge](/post/1346556) said:
How about sack Pascoe? Hes the CEO of the worst club in the NRL. In private industry, how long does the CEO ride out the inability to reach its KPIs? The head of the snake must be chopped off. See ya Pascoe and board you're next. You can't keep sacking coaches if the looser disease is infested deep within the organisation.

What's his KPI's? Do you know or just assuming? The Board would set those. How do you know he is not meeting them?

I'm only assuming of course as I have not read the legaiities his contract in relation to his KPIs. My guess would be that the CEO of the least performing NRL club in the NRL would have to have some on field performance element to it as the CEO governs the strategic direction of the organisation and that primarily relates to its core business... on field success. I'm sure if the CEO of bloody fruit shop stopped successfully selling fruit the business would go under. Oh, hang on, suckers walk into the shop occasionally tho.

He could be meeting every KPI the board has set for him.

No the Board governs the strategic direction of an organisation. The Board is the organisation not the CEO. The CEO does what the Board wants.

It is different in a small business where the owner does the job of the Board and CEO. Corporations don't work like that.

Yeah mate, not all organisations work exactly the same but in simple terms the boards sets the strategic direction of the club and the CEO responsibility is the achievement of those directions.

In a football club I would think the CEO would be responsible for the corporate and financial side of the business while the Football Manager is responsible for the football side of things with the coach sitting below him.

So Hartigan could decide to terminate Maguire's appointment?

I am not sure that is the setup we have, I believe that Hartigan is under Pascoe, but it is the setup I would implement if I was part of the board. A football club is such a diverse business now that I think you need the 2 different heads to fill 2 completely different roles.
 
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