Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

@geo said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336995) said:
@truetiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336947) said:
Hope Madge gets sacked and we start all over again...
I really dont give a crap anymore....

everybody has their own ideas and personal likes and opinions....

Mine is....as soon as we recruit and develop players with heart,guts and brains then the better off we will be...

If these blokes cant understand defense,support and hard work...then maybe lawn bowls could be their next big gig....

sack Madge,sack Brooks,sack Roberts,sack Noffa,sack BJ,sack AJ flipper hands...bugger it sack the ball boys and scoreboard attendants.....

I’m sorry our ball boys one is a girl are outstanding you have gone too far

Apologise....I should not have mentioned the ball boy,ball girl or scoreboard attendants....but thats what happens when you get frustrated with the whole joint...
 
@truetiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336988) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336987) said:
@truetiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336985) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336984) said:
@truetiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336981) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336949) said:
@truetiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336947) said:
Hope Madge gets sacked and we start all over again...
I really dont give a crap anymore....

everybody has their own ideas and personal likes and opinions....

Mine is....as soon as we recruit and develop players with heart,guts and brains then the better off we will be...

If these blokes cant understand defense,support and hard work...then maybe lawn bowls could be their next big gig....

sack Madge,sack Brooks,sack Roberts,sack Noffa,sack BJ,sack AJ flipper hands...bugger it sack the ball boys and scoreboard attendants.....

Yay ...took you 5 rounds to get on board lol

Mate thread after thread....sack Madge,Brooks,Mbye etc etc...its never ending...Madge has this team and has to do the work to get the best out of them...he has just been extended and has to perform or I dare say he will get sacked,but,although he has signed most of these blokes,they dont seem to have the understanding of defense or support,let alone the heart to compete...
A big day against the Cows and they made us look second rate....amazing the difference in the second half after Madge kicked their arses....

Or in the second half was the handbrake removed so the team could play it's natural game?

Your guess is as good as mine....its really hard to work this team out and have confidence in them....

Perhaps the issue is belief in the game plan and strategy?

Yes you could well be right,but most of the senior players have had plenty of NRL experience to know how to play the game....to be fair the younger ones have to learn the gameplans and adapt....

That is the issue. We have players who have played under the best coaches. The best is IC at present. Think of how many have played for him. Players know.
 
@truetiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336981) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336949) said:
@truetiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336947) said:
Hope Madge gets sacked and we start all over again...
I really dont give a crap anymore....

everybody has their own ideas and personal likes and opinions....

Mine is....as soon as we recruit and develop players with heart,guts and brains then the better off we will be...

If these blokes cant understand defense,support and hard work...then maybe lawn bowls could be their next big gig....

sack Madge,sack Brooks,sack Roberts,sack Noffa,sack BJ,sack AJ flipper hands...bugger it sack the ball boys and scoreboard attendants.....

Yay ...took you 5 rounds to get on board lol

Mate thread after thread....sack Madge,Brooks,Mbye etc etc...its never ending...Madge has this team and has to do the work to get the best out of them...he has just been extended and has to perform or I dare say he will get sacked,but,although he has signed most of these blokes,they dont seem to have the understanding of defense or support,let alone the heart to compete...
A big day against the Cows and they made us look second rate....amazing the difference in the second half after Madge kicked their arses....

Don't worry he will get until the end of 22 ....God knows who is coach then
 
@voice_of_reason said in [Sack Madge](/post/1337093) said:
@hank37w said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336969) said:
@voice_of_reason said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336254) said:
Depth in the halves would be handy...

Yes, we can sign on John Cronk as player/coach.

I think my attempt at sarcasm was missed... story of my life.


Sarcasm via text is sometimes very hard to detect.
 
@voice_of_reason said in [Sack Madge](/post/1337093) said:
@hank37w said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336969) said:
@voice_of_reason said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336254) said:
Depth in the halves would be handy...

Yes, we can sign on John Cronk as player/coach.

I think my attempt at sarcasm was missed... story of my life.

You might have missed my attempt as well.

Wouldn't be the first time I've failed.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336984) said:
@truetiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336981) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336949) said:
@truetiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336947) said:
Hope Madge gets sacked and we start all over again...
I really dont give a crap anymore....

everybody has their own ideas and personal likes and opinions....

Mine is....as soon as we recruit and develop players with heart,guts and brains then the better off we will be...

If these blokes cant understand defense,support and hard work...then maybe lawn bowls could be their next big gig....

sack Madge,sack Brooks,sack Roberts,sack Noffa,sack BJ,sack AJ flipper hands...bugger it sack the ball boys and scoreboard attendants.....

Yay ...took you 5 rounds to get on board lol

Mate thread after thread....sack Madge,Brooks,Mbye etc etc...its never ending...Madge has this team and has to do the work to get the best out of them...he has just been extended and has to perform or I dare say he will get sacked,but,although he has signed most of these blokes,they dont seem to have the understanding of defense or support,let alone the heart to compete...
A big day against the Cows and they made us look second rate....amazing the difference in the second half after Madge kicked their arses....

Or in the second half was the handbrake removed so the team could play it's natural game?

I unfortunately sat there all day for that garbage, however the glaring difference apart from effort in defence was that they supported the ball runner and off loaded in the second half.

I have played this game and watched it for a long time and struggle to understand how a first grade side or coach can believe that five individual hit ups and mid field bomb will lead to anything more than a change of possession.

In the Manly trial they backed up and scored 52 points ( yes its a trial) however they looked like a football team.

I hope they get back to playing football as it is great to watch and switch on in defence otherwise we will get slaughtered this week.
 
@sully said in [Sack Madge](/post/1337136) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336984) said:
@truetiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336981) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336949) said:
@truetiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336947) said:
Hope Madge gets sacked and we start all over again...
I really dont give a crap anymore....

everybody has their own ideas and personal likes and opinions....

Mine is....as soon as we recruit and develop players with heart,guts and brains then the better off we will be...

If these blokes cant understand defense,support and hard work...then maybe lawn bowls could be their next big gig....

sack Madge,sack Brooks,sack Roberts,sack Noffa,sack BJ,sack AJ flipper hands...bugger it sack the ball boys and scoreboard attendants.....

Yay ...took you 5 rounds to get on board lol

Mate thread after thread....sack Madge,Brooks,Mbye etc etc...its never ending...Madge has this team and has to do the work to get the best out of them...he has just been extended and has to perform or I dare say he will get sacked,but,although he has signed most of these blokes,they dont seem to have the understanding of defense or support,let alone the heart to compete...
A big day against the Cows and they made us look second rate....amazing the difference in the second half after Madge kicked their arses....

Or in the second half was the handbrake removed so the team could play it's natural game?

I unfortunately sat there all day for that garbage, however the glaring difference apart from effort in defence was that they supported the ball runner and off loaded in the second half.

I have played this game and watched it for a long time and struggle to understand how a first grade side or coach can believe that five individual hit ups and mid field bomb will lead to anything more than a change of possession.

In the Manly trial they backed up and scored 52 points ( yes its a trial) however they looked like a football team.

I hope they get back to playing football as it is great to watch and switch on in defence otherwise we will get slaughtered this week.

Well written. To me our team is shackled to an archaic game plan that is not relevant to the game today. IC was on TV this afternoon and he got his message across succinctly and smoothly. I'm sure the Panthers' players relate to him.
 
The boys don’t look like they enjoy playing atm, our attack looks robotic, hope Madge knows when to change structure, great coaches know when it’s not working, our second half was the total opposite of what we’ve been playing. It was messy but I’m assuming that’s because the boys played the way they wanted to. Let them attack how they want and focus on defence. Stop training as hard throughout the week. Get feedback from the boys and try it out, that’s what a great coach would try.
 
I was never a fan of the entire sack Madge idea, but its growing on me. Madge got sacked from the Bunnies because his big bodied forward focused structured style of play wasn't working and he lack either the willingness or ability to change, When he came here I was all on board, however three years down the track and still the players haven't bought into his culture, standards, player accountability mantra and defense driven style of play. Something has give either the players or Madge or someone has to go.
Here we are three years on, the rules have changed and to a degree so has the style of play, and yet here we are playing five hit ups for a bomb and hope for the best. Our back line can't get set as it takes the forwards until the 4th tackle to get back on side. Players are dropped, usually only for a week,then back in first's, it seems to be a kick in the pants driven activity not to find form or learn how to play the game motive.
Madge is still playing a the same big bodied forward focused style of play as 2013-17, without the quality cattle to do it, the game has changed and again he seems to lack the willingness or the ability to change.
 
@tigerblood93 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1337367) said:
The boys don’t look like they enjoy playing atm, our attack looks robotic, hope Madge knows when to change structure, great coaches know when it’s not working, our second half was the total opposite of what we’ve been playing. It was messy but I’m assuming that’s because the boys played the way they wanted to. Let them attack how they want and focus on defence. Stop training as hard throughout the week. Get feedback from the boys and try it out, that’s what a great coach would try.

Agree with all of this
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336984) said:
@truetiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336981) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336949) said:
@truetiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336947) said:
Hope Madge gets sacked and we start all over again...
I really dont give a crap anymore....

everybody has their own ideas and personal likes and opinions....

Mine is....as soon as we recruit and develop players with heart,guts and brains then the better off we will be...

If these blokes cant understand defense,support and hard work...then maybe lawn bowls could be their next big gig....

sack Madge,sack Brooks,sack Roberts,sack Noffa,sack BJ,sack AJ flipper hands...bugger it sack the ball boys and scoreboard attendants.....

Yay ...took you 5 rounds to get on board lol

Mate thread after thread....sack Madge,Brooks,Mbye etc etc...its never ending...Madge has this team and has to do the work to get the best out of them...he has just been extended and has to perform or I dare say he will get sacked,but,although he has signed most of these blokes,they dont seem to have the understanding of defense or support,let alone the heart to compete...
A big day against the Cows and they made us look second rate....amazing the difference in the second half after Madge kicked their arses....

Or in the second half was the handbrake removed so the team could play it's natural game?

The best scenario is that Madge realised the handbrake needed to be removed and adjusted the game plan accordingly. If the players spoke among themselves and decided to flick Madge's game plan and remove the handbrake, then who knows what is going to happen this week. If we go back to four or five unsupported hit ups this week we will get massacred.
 
@krammy said in [Sack Madge](/post/1337379) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336984) said:
@truetiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336981) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336949) said:
@truetiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336947) said:
Hope Madge gets sacked and we start all over again...
I really dont give a crap anymore....

everybody has their own ideas and personal likes and opinions....

Mine is....as soon as we recruit and develop players with heart,guts and brains then the better off we will be...

If these blokes cant understand defense,support and hard work...then maybe lawn bowls could be their next big gig....

sack Madge,sack Brooks,sack Roberts,sack Noffa,sack BJ,sack AJ flipper hands...bugger it sack the ball boys and scoreboard attendants.....

Yay ...took you 5 rounds to get on board lol

Mate thread after thread....sack Madge,Brooks,Mbye etc etc...its never ending...Madge has this team and has to do the work to get the best out of them...he has just been extended and has to perform or I dare say he will get sacked,but,although he has signed most of these blokes,they dont seem to have the understanding of defense or support,let alone the heart to compete...
A big day against the Cows and they made us look second rate....amazing the difference in the second half after Madge kicked their arses....

Or in the second half was the handbrake removed so the team could play it's natural game?

The best scenario is that Madge realised the handbrake needed to be removed and adjusted the game plan accordingly. If the players spoke among themselves and decided to flick Madge's game plan and remove the handbrake, then who knows what is going to happen this week. If we go back to four or five unsupported hit ups this week we will get massacred.

The question I ask is if we as supporters can see this, why can't club officials?
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1337382) said:
@krammy said in [Sack Madge](/post/1337379) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336984) said:
@truetiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336981) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336949) said:
@truetiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336947) said:
Hope Madge gets sacked and we start all over again...
I really dont give a crap anymore....

everybody has their own ideas and personal likes and opinions....

Mine is....as soon as we recruit and develop players with heart,guts and brains then the better off we will be...

If these blokes cant understand defense,support and hard work...then maybe lawn bowls could be their next big gig....

sack Madge,sack Brooks,sack Roberts,sack Noffa,sack BJ,sack AJ flipper hands...bugger it sack the ball boys and scoreboard attendants.....

Yay ...took you 5 rounds to get on board lol

Mate thread after thread....sack Madge,Brooks,Mbye etc etc...its never ending...Madge has this team and has to do the work to get the best out of them...he has just been extended and has to perform or I dare say he will get sacked,but,although he has signed most of these blokes,they dont seem to have the understanding of defense or support,let alone the heart to compete...
A big day against the Cows and they made us look second rate....amazing the difference in the second half after Madge kicked their arses....

Or in the second half was the handbrake removed so the team could play it's natural game?

The best scenario is that Madge realised the handbrake needed to be removed and adjusted the game plan accordingly. If the players spoke among themselves and decided to flick Madge's game plan and remove the handbrake, then who knows what is going to happen this week. If we go back to four or five unsupported hit ups this week we will get massacred.

The question I ask is if we as supporters can see this, why can't club officials?

Got their heads in the free buffet.
 
Not sure im getting the reference to releasing the handbrake as part of a gameplan.

Do people really think his gameplan would be 5 one out hitups and midfield bomb? A premiership winning coach..


Its all down to effort of which we had none in that first half.

The more likely scenario is they are scared to make a mistake
 
I'm really not sure the players in this squad are worth sacking another coach for.
They just don't play for the coach each week -they get paid by the club to play and they should play for each other.
 
@izotope said in [Sack Madge](/post/1337441) said:
Not sure im getting the reference to releasing the handbrake as part of a gameplan.

Do people really think his gameplan would be 5 one out hitups and midfield bomb? A premiership winning coach..


Its all down to effort of which we had none in that first half.

The more likely scenario is they are scared to make a mistake

Fear is not an ideal driver for improved performance. A coach must get the players onboard with his ethos and ability including man management skills.
 
@izotope said in [Sack Madge](/post/1337441) said:
Do people really think his gameplan would be 5 one out hitups and midfield bomb? A premiership winning coach…

I think that is his gameplan because that’s what we do week in and week out. It was slightly negated previously by Benji’s off the cuff style but this year it’s on display in all its glory.
 
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